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shift_reality
Feb 16, 2006, 11:15 PM
Over the past few years, I drew a collection of cars. Just sketches. Some of them are very ugly, while the others aren't that bad and I would like to share the ones that aren't so bad with you guys. Well it's only a few. I remember I had more in my grade 10 art sketch book, but for some reason they went missing. I think the teacher ripped them out or something. Anyways I started drawing a few again and I have made a list of all the car I plan to draw, well anyways here's the list:

- Enzo
- F430
- Murcielago
- Carrera GT
- RX-8
- SLR
- S7
- Gallardo
- Evo IX
- R8
- S2000
- S15
- NSX
- 350Z
- Sagaris
- Toureg
- Zonda F
- CCR
- M5
- M6
- 996 GT2 Sportec
- CLK DTM AMG
- CLK DTM AMG Cabrio.
- Sportec Golf V GTi
- STi

I'm finished up to the SLR, but it looks like **** because I spent 15 minutes on it, so I'll only show you guys the first 3, lol. If I find time, I'll hopefully be able to draw some more good looking ones. I made this list about half a year ago. But I've been busy with school work and things like that. I think on average these pictures took me about 30-40 minutes each, somewhere around there and these are only black and white sketches because I suck at colouring. Hope you guys like them and comments are welcome.

http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3575/enzo5cv.th.jpg (http://img119.imageshack.us/my.php?image=enzo5cv.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/1732/f4309bv.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f4309bv.jpg)http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/267/murcielago10gc.th.jpg (http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=murcielago10gc.jpg)

Edit: I hate editing html pics and stuff...

AWDfreak
Feb 16, 2006, 11:28 PM
I'd like to see the STI.....

zeyk
Feb 17, 2006, 2:10 AM
wow...they look gud...i want to see the carrera gt...

the solitaire
Feb 17, 2006, 5:27 AM
For being sketches they look really good.

Maybe spend 3-4 hours on each drawing to get the last few proportions right.

You do know the basics of drawing in perspective? It needs some practice but really speeds up the process of making sketches of cars and the like.

parko1990
Feb 17, 2006, 6:12 AM
Very good. You've got talent.

I can't draw for cow-crap-frisbees on those angles but I try.

lambo or holden
Feb 17, 2006, 6:36 AM
I can do ok side profiles.
I cant really do any angles though.
I'll give it a try as well tomorrow.

parko1990
Feb 17, 2006, 6:43 AM
^ Are you aware you just typed "Angels"?

What in the name of grapefruit juice do you write when you're actually trying to say "Angels"?


Illiterate Melbournians... (aware not a word :p )

lambo or holden
Feb 17, 2006, 6:47 AM
I learnt to spell in Hong Kong.
Don't blame it on Melbourne.

shift_reality
Feb 17, 2006, 9:09 AM
Yea proportion is really important when it comes to drawing machines. Unlike sketching humans or nature, where every tree is different, you can draw it how ever you want. In a car, if something is wrong, people will notice right away, but that makes it the hard part about drawing cars. I'm not professional or anything so the things I struggle on the most are proportion and the rims and most of the time it's usually the proportion that's the problem. Sometimes the angle messes me up too.

Maybe spend 3-4 hours on each drawing to get the last few proportions right.

I wish I had that much time to spend, maybe in the summer or during March break. I'm in my last semester of high school, so I really need those marks to get into university. Can't slack off.

Also, cars such as the Carrera GT or SLR, the lines become more difficult to draw since they're all curves. Sometimes if the lines go slightly off place, it ruins the entire car. There are many examples of that. If the wheel wells aren't big enough compared to the car, etc. Which is why my SLR looks like a kindergarten drawing and the CGT looks like a messed up Boxter.

PS: I also like to play on photoshop with cars and stuff, but I'm still a beginner. I haven't tried to replace bumpers or add bodykits. All I have tried was changing rims, colour, ride height, and maybe "extending" the bumpers so it looks like there's a body kit. I'll post some pictures later.

andreyko
Feb 17, 2006, 3:44 PM
nice job man
cant wait to see Evo (when you become a milioner remember ME) lol

Mopar68
Feb 17, 2006, 6:16 PM
Excellent. However, may I make a suggestion from one artist to another?

After some inspection, I notice you have a very common problem. Now, follow me here. It's kind of deep, and it takes some consideration:

You're not drawing what's in front of you. You're drawing what your mind tells you is there. Your mind is telling you that certian lines have to look like this or that to look good. What does the finished piece look like? Nothing like the actual object. Well, I mean, it's close, but it's not he exact object. What you need to do is just see the object or picture for yourself.

It sounds stupid, but here's an exercise to help:

Have you ever done blind contours? They're very useful. Let's start with something basic. Take your left hand (or if you're left handed, your right) and put it in front of your face or flat on some surface. Take a sheet of paper and pen (No erasers! The point of this is not to go back and fix your mistakes!), and in with your dominate hand, strat drawing the other. The key is to never look at what you're drawing. Just focus strictly on the hand. Pretend you're looking at a little bug, crawling from your wrist, over your fingers and back down again. Draw his path. Go very slowly. Put in all the details you think you need. When you're done, look at the paper.

Needless to say, it'll look like garbage (unless you're like, the god of art. Even my art teacher, who is a very qualified artist, draws a crappy blind contour of her hand). But this is good. This'll help you focus in on the lines of the cars. From different angle, alot of lines look ugly, but they're honest. Practing this will help you put in those lines. the beauty of it is you don't need alot of time to do this. I usually do a couple in class when I'm bored.

Also, use your pencil as a distance tool. I usually use other things, like my finger nails or knuckles and stuff. If you know all of this, keep practicing. I can still see your mind is telling you what to put down. If you can master that, you'll be a genius. Also, those look like you drew them from pictures. If so, that's kind of cheating. Try drawing small models from various angles.

It also takes alot of balls to put up your work for everyone else to see. I admire that.

shift_reality
Feb 17, 2006, 7:49 PM
haha thanks for the tips. I never noticed it until you stated it, but it's true. In my mind I have the same picture as the one I'm drawing, and when I draw it, I think about where the lines should go or how big something is. I guess you can say it's not natural, where your brain does the drawing, not your hand. Another thing is measuring and proportion. I don't have the habit of measuring with a pencil or anything because everytime I draw, I just draw to spend some time alone or just draw when I get bored of homework.

With the contour lines, I can't even write neat without looking at my page, lol. But I guess it's going to be something that I will practice in the near future. It's like I'm trying to run before learning to walk. My drawings seem like I'm rushing to see the final product. It's sort of missing the guts.

I think drawing from a 2D picture is much more easier than from a 3D model, because all of a sudden, you have the depth to consider as well. It's easy to transfer a 2D image to a 2D surface, but not so when it comes to moving a 3D object onto a 2D surface. Lol, kind of like drawing those silly diagrams in chemistry. But I will try to draw my Skyline model when I have time.

Mopar68
Feb 17, 2006, 11:23 PM
If you're just doing this for fun, then by all means, continue what you're doing. It's a great stress release to just draw. However, it can be a major source of frustration at the same time. If you're not satisfied with your work, you can become more stressed than you were before.

So if you're not satisfied, I suggest sketching alot and doing contour drawings. It's really not hard at all. It's not supposed to be a masterpiece. You should also try value drawings. This will help you ALOT with the curves. Just do simple blocking. Blocking is just shading. Practice with different light and such. Don't draw lines then shade them in. Just do shading. It'll help.

Also, instead of looking at the whole car next time you draw, just quickly sketch different parts over and over again. This way, you get a general feel of the cars styling. Draw the car around that door or whatever it is. I've done this a couple of times, and it helps with the overall flow.

One last thing. 2D to 2D stuff is ok. I sometimes like to do models. It's very rare, though. Most of the time I don't have the paitence. But it helps the technique. I suggest you make a viewfinder. A view finder takes what I call a live picture. You can make one with your hands or two thick L-shaped pieces of paper. To make one with your hand, take your thumb and index finger and make an L-shape with both hand. Turn one on the other to make a rectangle. Make the rectangle smaller, until it's about a 1 or 2 cubic inch square. You could do the same with paper if you'd like. What does this do? When you draw something in person, you get overloaded with information. Your brain is trying very hard to proccess it all. So when you go to draw, you get overwhelmed. This is probably why you don't do 3D. It's just too much, right? Well, a view finder isolates a certian area so it looks like a picture. Say you want to draw the right fender of a car. Just put the view finder over what you want to draw. You can use the edges of the view finder as a guide. It's a hell of alot less overwhelming. This takes some time, however. It's worth it though.

PM me or IM me on fightingillinif4 and we can talk art. I'd should also add that even though I talk like I'm some great, all knowing artist, I'm really not that great. However, I do know how to improve myself, and I do know how to think outside the box. You can have a kid who can draw everything like a picture. But if he can't think outside the box, he's doomed.

Alright, I'm done ranting.

eX-pRo
Feb 18, 2006, 8:34 AM
im sorry but i think the enzo's windscreen is a bit too big eh??
n the murci, nice......................

eX-pRo
Feb 18, 2006, 8:38 AM
hey mopar.. ive just read yours above... u do models?? gimmie some words to read.... im about to do that too...

Mopar68
Feb 18, 2006, 3:52 PM
I've done a couple. I'm not too good at making them. I was reffering to my brother's little 1:18 scale diecast models. I use those for some drawings.

eX-pRo
Feb 22, 2006, 9:27 AM
ugh.. i thought u were making.. models.. out of clay maybe...
coz thats what i wanna do...
ive started doin 1 though..
but not soo good...