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TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:04 PM
Anyone check out that beauty yet?!
-At a Glance

Models:
• The 2004 GTO starts at $32,495 * MSRP. Click here for more info.

All features and specifications listed below come standard on the 2004 GTO (unless otherwise specified)

Key Power and Performance Features:
• All-aluminum 5.7 Gen III LS1 V8 engine
• Rear-wheel drive with 55/45 weight distribution
• Dual exhaust with chrome dual tips
• Front/rear disc brakes with four-channel ABS
• Power-assisted variable ratio rack-and-pinion steering
• Fully independent rear suspension
• Bosch 3-channel traction control
• 17x8" alloy wheels
• P245/45 ZR17 W-rated performance tires

Key Interior Features:
• Programmable Driver Information Center
• 8-way power driver and front passenger seat adjuster
• 2+2 all-leather sport bucket seats
• Automatic rear seat access
• Sports gauge cluster
• Blaupunkt 200-watt audio system with 10 speakers and 6-CD in-dash disc changer
• Leather-wrapped steering wheel with radio controls


Estimated Fuel Economy in MPG**

City Highway

5.7 Liter Automatic 16 21

5.7 Liter Manual 17 29


Standard Capacities
Fuel tank (gal. approx.) 18
Seating 4
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/02images/04gto.jpg
I love jap cars, but sometimes it's hard for a rice burner to compete![/img]

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:20 PM
All features and specifications listed below come standard on the 2004 GTO (unless otherwise specified)

• Engine: All-aluminum 5.7L Gen III LS1 V8 (350hp/365 lb-ft torque)
• Transmission choices: 4-speed automatic or available Tremec close-ratio 6-speed manual
• Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive (55/45 front/rear weight distribution)
• Axle Ratio: 3.46:1
• Exhaust: Dual exhaust with chrome dual tips
• Brakes: Front/rear disc brakes with four-channel ABS
• Steering: Power-assisted variable ratio rack-and-pinion
• Front suspension: Independent, MacPherson struts with progressive/variable-rate springs
• Rear suspension: Independent, semi-trailing link with gas shocks and progressive/variable-rate springs
• Stabilizer bars: Front 28 mm and Rear 16 mm direct acting
• Spoiler: Rear, aerodynamic
• Traction Control: Bosch 3-channel, using combination of throttle, spark, and fuel control
• Tires: P245/45-R17 W-rated all-season blackwall radials
• Wheels: 17x8", 5-spoke, satin-silver painted, alloy wheels

dark_hunter
Jan 18, 2004, 12:21 PM
Here is the real thing:
http://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/04gto.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/04gto11.jpg
http://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/04gto21.jpg
Here is the V8:
Displacement: 5665 cc
Horsepower: 350 bhp @ 5200 rpm
Torque: 365 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
http://www.fast-autos.net/pontiac/04gto22.jpg

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:24 PM
That is one sexay car. Good HP and Torque for its price, except the new cobra has 390 hp and X amount of torque for about the same price range

dark_hunter
Jan 18, 2004, 12:34 PM
Not another Ford guy :?

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 12:34 PM
yer the GTS coupe in hsv's line up has 400hp
thats just a modified holden monaro
WWW.HSV.COM.AU

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:35 PM
"Yank" laws suck :evil: they always smurf the good cars here :x

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:37 PM
:idea: All im saying is that it's a decent bargain for the HP and Torque as compared to japnese cars

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 12:40 PM
IN Australia u like holden or ford. Ford australia that is. And the only aussie holden in the monaro. The rest are rebadged chevs or other gm cars.
And how can it be a yank muscel car if its made here. NOT VERRY AMERICAN AT ALL!
FORDS RULE!!!

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:42 PM
My grandfather worked for GM and I get all GM cars at a discount and they do make excellent cars!! :P

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 12:44 PM
as much i hate em it is a bargan. the Pontiac Gto here the Monaro CV8 is about $55,000
Aussie dollars and our dollar is about 78 us cents.
the 400hp monaro referd to as the HSV copue GTS is $99.000 aussie dollars while the
Ford falcon GT has 386hp and is $60.000 aussie dollars. and it has an extra 3 hp at the
wheels then the holden. Holden use a different system to messure engine power.

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 12:49 PM
im not biased against most cars heh I like Volvos too! I can pretty much appreciate any car for what it gives, if it is considerable, I have to admit I do love cars, and i love fords.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 12:53 PM
If u like ford or hate em go to this site and see the falcon
its on the main page and falcon ute is a sweet car. if i was chick guys would love it.
If it wrong to have this car i dont wasnna be right
Ford was goning down in Aus until they released this sweet headturning ride.
go to www.FPV.com.au to see it
its the 385hp one

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 1:02 PM
Sweet looking car, except it looks like it has saturn ion quad (redline) front lights, which in turn look like RSX headlights. Still the HP and performance still looks bad, on the other hand, its engine specs dont compete with the GTO...Whoos 385 HP...my bad...Sweet f'in ride man! :oops: :)

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 1:07 PM
yer but this is mussered in Killowats kw not hp
its got like 385hp

BluCamSS
Jan 18, 2004, 1:21 PM
I drove a GTO last week at a local dealership, AWESOME car.
Handles great, awesome power and HIGH quality....
It really is a great, great car.

A LS6 400 horsepower version with more "additude" comes out in 2005.:-)

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 1:26 PM
IS the GTO out already.
U could import a HSV GTS with 400hpfrom Aus now if u wanted
its about $96 thousand aussie dollars. and it will be rifgt hand drive
heresa pic of one
and how do i get rid of the hodlens are gay thing coz i dont know?
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/images/2dechol4.JPG

BluCamSS
Jan 18, 2004, 1:31 PM
IS the GTO out already.
U could import a HSV GTS with 400hpfrom Aus now if u wanted
its about $96 thousand aussie dollars. and it will be rifgt hand drive
heresa pic of one
and how do i get rid of the hodlens are gay thing coz i dont know?
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/images/2dechol4.JPG
Yes it just came out last month.

You remove that the same way you typed it in, Profile then signature....

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 1:34 PM
yer i just did thanx. What do u think of the holden?

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 1:35 PM
this may sound like a dumb question, which i already suspect it is; think it would own up to an WRX-STi?

Raith83
Jan 18, 2004, 1:39 PM
this may sound like a dumb question, which i already suspect it is; think it would own up to an WRX-STi?

yeah, that is a dumb question :wink: sorry, it's just one of thse....not comparable car questions. V-8 RWD sport coupe vs a AWD Turbo I-4 compact sedan? no dice.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 1:42 PM
nah thats a good one but the HSV does a 13.74 1/4 mile and the rex does it at 13.62secconds
but theres a4 door HSV GTS pictured here that does it at 13.36
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/carimages/hsv_gts_y.jpg

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 1:45 PM
i like posing those questions so people actually read my forums :oops: ... I was on www.skunk2.com and they claim to have a 95 Integra RS (fixed up) that does a 1/4 in just under 10 seconds. But i don't think it can be street legal...At least in Mass, or perhaps the US- Im not sure of those vehicle codes.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 1:49 PM
yer same in aus
i dont thik if its front drive and does 10 sec it would be legall but we here in aus theres a turbo ford
cortina V8 thats a 10sec car and is street driven. its RWD too

and it mass massitchsas as u can see i cant spell it :D

BluCamSS
Jan 18, 2004, 1:55 PM
nah thats a good one but the HSV does a 13.74 1/4 mile and the rex does it at 13.62secconds
but theres a4 door HSV GTS pictured here that does it at 13.36
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/carimages/hsv_gts_y.jpg

WOW crappy drivers you got over there lol.
The GTO has been tested to 13.4@ 107 here already....
The LS6 version comming out is said to run high 12's.:-)

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 2:01 PM
Do u know how heavy it is?

TheCivicProject
Jan 18, 2004, 2:03 PM
I know how to spell Massachusetts, im just too lazy to think about it!! :lol: What I can't wait for is the famously rumored Dodge Charger to come back out!! I mean its pretty great that Dodge has put Hemis into trucks because Charger enthusiasts could put a brandy new engine in their beloved pheonix we call a Charger R/T... However, I'm also not sure of the new Hemi specs. I need to check them out.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 2:06 PM
i like the look of them chargers. are they rare and do they have V10's and how powerfull are they

BluCamSS
Jan 18, 2004, 2:07 PM
Do u know how heavy it is?

Fully loaded, about 3700 pounds.

sr20det_swapper
Jan 18, 2004, 2:07 PM
http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/carimages/hsv_gts_y.jpg
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/april02/images/ty11.jpg

Don't you think the HSV GTS looks like the shark eyed 240 (bottom) :?:

BluCamSS
Jan 18, 2004, 2:08 PM
i like the look of them chargers. are they rare and do they have V10's and how powerfull are they

V10? Ha they are not even making the new Charger yet....and IF they make it NO V10.

AND THIS IS A GTO TOPIC, please stay on topic guys, thanks.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 2:12 PM
yes i do i sed that to all my friends and they couldnt agree more. i got this pic of a 200sx like that with a body kit that makes it look like the hsv. yer our Hsv 2 door one is 3271 pounds.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 18, 2004, 2:14 PM
sorry 3721 pound

jimkk29
Jan 18, 2004, 5:21 PM
You could have edited your first post. :)

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 20, 2004, 2:42 AM
how much usd$$$ will the 400hp gto cost?

Jimmy
Jan 20, 2004, 3:46 AM
man, I love the the new pontiac 8)

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 20, 2004, 4:52 AM
ITS A holden. had it in aus since like 2001 with a bit of a different body.
http://users.senet.com.au/~jmacleod/monaro.jpg
and this is one of the first monaros from the 60's.
If it wasnt 4 this youd have NO GTO
and the Monaro is going to be exported to the uk under the opal/vaxhall name
might be called the Calibra.
http://members2.easyspace.com/hotholdens/assets/images/hq-gts-monaro-4dr.jpg[/list]

BluCamSS
Jan 20, 2004, 11:47 AM
how much usd$$$ will the 400hp gto cost?

Since it will have many upgrades, I would say about 5 grand more....
About $38,0000 or so.....well worth it.

B Deuce
Jan 20, 2004, 10:32 PM
wasn't the original GTO a 2 door Tempest LeMans with a V8?

That would mean that an old school monaro had nothing to do with the US having a GTO. And the only reason we have one off an Australian car now is because it was cheaper than designing a new model.

http://www.pontiac.com/gto/index.jsp?version=html

goto GTO heritage

BluCamSS
Jan 20, 2004, 10:53 PM
wasn't the original GTO a 2 door Tempest LeMans with a V8?

That would mean that an old school monaro had nothing to do with the US having a GTO. And the only reason we have one off an Australian car now is because it was cheaper than designing a new model.

http://www.pontiac.com/gto/index.jsp?version=html

goto GTO heritage

Yup you're correct.

B Deuce
Jan 20, 2004, 11:07 PM
I thought it was...I haven't studied anything on it until today when I saw in-depths in Motor Trend's Buyer's Guide, and then I saw this guy just talking out the side of his neck spewing out highly-wrong info. I'd probably get one of these instead of the original over a NISMO supercharged 350Z or G35. But that's years down the road.

HOLDEN H8R
Jan 21, 2004, 9:40 AM
yer your right.
i just realised how dumb that of me that was to say that. :?
any way holden is GM, is Pontiac coz we dont have em here?
we got like old cameros coz we had them here way before me in like the 60's

BluCamSS
Jan 21, 2004, 11:10 AM
yer your right.
i just realised how dumb that of me that was to say that. :?
any way holden is GM, is Pontiac coz we dont have em here?
we got like old cameros coz we had them here way before me in like the 60's
Yeah ofcourse Pontiac is GM.

Raith83
Jan 21, 2004, 11:17 AM
And for future reference, GM is; GMC, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Hummer, SAAB, and Opel/Vauxhall. Well, at least it owns all of these. Saab and Opel tend to be less......American companies, very much less like any of the other GM brands :wink:

jimkk29
Jan 21, 2004, 3:41 PM
You put GMC 2 times, and GM owns some more...
Check here: http://www.sportscarforums.com/showthread.php?t=693

agitatedcorn
Jan 21, 2004, 6:35 PM
wow this is WAY off topic... but I wish that they'd release the Holden Monaro over here :cry:

BluCamSS
Jan 21, 2004, 9:18 PM
wow this is WAY off topic... but I wish that they'd release the Holden Monaro over here :cry:

Dude the GTO IS a tweaked Monaro!

agitatedcorn
Jan 22, 2004, 1:05 AM
And for future reference, GM is; GMC, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Hummer, SAAB, and Opel/Vauxhall. Well, at least it owns all of these. Saab and Opel tend to be less......American companies, very much less like any of the other GM brands :wink:

Blucam I was referring to stuff like this... I guess I should've specified... :roll:

BluCamSS
Jan 22, 2004, 11:59 AM
And for future reference, GM is; GMC, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Hummer, SAAB, and Opel/Vauxhall. Well, at least it owns all of these. Saab and Opel tend to be less......American companies, very much less like any of the other GM brands :wink:

Blucam I was referring to stuff like this... I guess I should've specified... :roll:

What are you talking about dude?
Holden is 100% owned by GM.

agitatedcorn
Jan 22, 2004, 1:19 PM
And for future reference, GM is; GMC, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Hummer, SAAB, and Opel/Vauxhall. Well, at least it owns all of these. Saab and Opel tend to be less......American companies, very much less like any of the other GM brands :wink:

Blucam I was referring to stuff like this... I guess I should've specified... :roll:

What are you talking about dude?
Holden is 100% owned by GM.

OMFG I am saying that talking about which company owns which is WAY off topic dude...

BluCamSS
Jan 22, 2004, 2:40 PM
And for future reference, GM is; GMC, Chevrolet, Pontiac, Oldsmobile, Cadillac, GMC, Saturn, Hummer, SAAB, and Opel/Vauxhall. Well, at least it owns all of these. Saab and Opel tend to be less......American companies, very much less like any of the other GM brands :wink:

Blucam I was referring to stuff like this... I guess I should've specified... :roll:

What are you talking about dude?
Holden is 100% owned by GM.

OMFG I am saying that talking about which company owns which is WAY off topic dude...

Well lets see, the topic was the new GTO, it is a Pontiac, but it is made by Holden, which is part of GM....how was I off topic?....oh yeah, I wasn't. :roll:

N.R.F.D.
Feb 07, 2004, 8:30 PM
From a performance standpoint this car is awesome. I just wish they could have made it look less like a Grand Prix. If you're just going to import a platform, why not create a whole new name? Using the name GTO, just doesn't really make any sense. GTO is a marketing ploy so that all those 60 year olds that had GTO's back in the day, are going to go out and buy them. Mid Life crisis kind of thing. The car is cool., don't get me wrong, but why call it a GTO. The original GTO was basically the birth of the musclecar era. Using an imported platform, and a commonly used small block V8 doesn't really live up to the original. Car companies have a tendency of doing diservice to classics. Just look at the Dodge Chrgers of the 80's. No, there was no 426 or 440. What you got was an Omni with a different appearance. What about the Chevy Nova? What the hell happened to that? Did you see those things? Ugghhhh......

BluCamSS
Feb 08, 2004, 1:28 AM
From a performance standpoint this car is awesome. I just wish they could have made it look less like a Grand Prix. If you're just going to import a platform, why not create a whole new name? Using the name GTO, just doesn't really make any sense. GTO is a marketing ploy so that all those 60 year olds that had GTO's back in the day, are going to go out and buy them. Mid Life crisis kind of thing. The car is cool., don't get me wrong, but why call it a GTO. The original GTO was basically the birth of the musclecar era. Using an imported platform, and a commonly used small block V8 doesn't really live up to the original.
First off I like its clean lines, and there will be a different more aggressive version comming out in '05. And as far as sharing a platform, the Monaro platform is a damn good one. The '64 GTO shared its platform with MANY other cars from GM, and its engine was in many a Pontiac of the day........I think calling it a GTO is great, hell it out performs every other GTO EVER made.

slowfiveoh
Feb 08, 2004, 5:46 PM
If it performs it deserves the name. Being that a real "muscle car" hasn't been around since the 96 Impala SS, this car may start something. Just like the original GTO. Maybe we'll have galaxies and falcons come from Ford now. :lol:

Raith83
Feb 08, 2004, 6:29 PM
I like the idea of the Autocross version. they need to do this 'special package' deals with these already fast cars to really capture the muscle/performance car spirit

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/gtoplus03_01.jpg