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jonny_gsx
Sep 20, 2005, 5:06 PM
I was wondering what all of you thought were the greatest car rivalries and their greatest battles?
I'm not talking about car companies i'm taling about actual models. Nor am i talking about making another comparo thread, i want to know what you guys think are the greatest, longets lasting, closest rivalries.
Two rivalries for example are:
1. Ford Mustang VS Chevrolet Camaro
and
2. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VS Subabru Imprezza WRX
xMustangManx 70
Sep 20, 2005, 5:34 PM
bmw vs. mercedes (in general)
Brain_6
Sep 20, 2005, 6:09 PM
1).Toyota Mr2 and the Mazda Mx5
xMustangManx 70
Sep 20, 2005, 6:10 PM
thats not a great rivalry.. Viper vs. Vette
Ghalos
Sep 20, 2005, 6:23 PM
Dudes, the obvious one...Corvette versus 911...
Emohawk
Sep 20, 2005, 6:32 PM
Camry vs. Accord vs. Taurus :D
Big segment, big battle
Supra vs. Skyline vs. RX-7
That was a pretty good one, but they're not making two of them anymore.
BAI MANGAL
Sep 20, 2005, 10:08 PM
civic vs all
Kirstyn
Sep 20, 2005, 10:13 PM
Mustang vs. Camaro
Viper vs. Vette
911 vs. Vette
Caterham vs. Ariel
IS300 vs. 3-series
Tahoe vs. Expedition
Bmw Z3 1.9 vs. Mazda Miata
Gallardo vs. 360
Lancer Evo vs. Impreza STi
Escalade vs. Navigator.
Supra vs. RX-7
Civic vs. Corolla
Accord vs. Camry
F-Series vs. Silverado vs. Ram
S10 vs. Ranger
3-series vs. C-class
Arnage vs. Phantom/similar
7-Series vs. S-Class
M5 vs. E55
Top Secret
Sep 20, 2005, 10:14 PM
A8 vs. S-Class vs. 7 Series.
V1P3rEatR17
Sep 20, 2005, 10:15 PM
Dudes, the obvious one...Corvette versus 911...
Yea...that comes to my mind. I like it becuz I have a soft spot for both of these cars, and am looking forward to owning both someday. Plus, it goes so far back - all the way to the fifties. And, it's cross-continental, so it's a global battle! hehe.
Another good one though, is Ferrari vs. Lamborghini. That was a great rivalry back in the day, until when Lambo got bought out by the Germans, and since it has died down somewhat...but still going strong. i.e. Gallardo vs. f430.
P.S. I listed Lambo and Fer. companies rather than models, because they have had numerous models over the decades that they have battled...too many for me to wanna list, but it all started with the Meira...then the countach etc.
Erind
Sep 20, 2005, 10:16 PM
Reliant Robin vs Ford Pinto beechez... Rivalry for the worst!!!
Kirstyn
Sep 20, 2005, 10:18 PM
A8 vs. S-Class vs. 7 Series.
I also forgot:
Prelude vs. Eclipse,
Odyssey vs. Sienna.
bossesjoe
Sep 20, 2005, 10:19 PM
Here is one I don't think anyone has mentioned, 3-series vs A4.
civic vs all
Or ZO6 vs "all", or Skyline vs "all".....
Porscheboy
Sep 20, 2005, 10:22 PM
Infinti vs. Lexus? That seems like one to me.
Top Secret
Sep 20, 2005, 10:22 PM
From an Australian point of view -
Ford Falcon vs. Holden Commodore.
parko1990
Sep 20, 2005, 10:24 PM
^^^ Well then,
HSV vs FPV
ssssnake
Sep 20, 2005, 10:25 PM
thats not a great rivalry.. Viper vs. Vette
Yes. And the new Z06 is about to make this old rivalry a lot more interesting.
BofoMills
Sep 20, 2005, 10:32 PM
Easy.
Mustang vs. Camaro
Civic vs. Integra
k5 blazer vs. 318 ramcharger (only here I think)
Top Secret
Sep 20, 2005, 10:41 PM
Civic vs. Integra
That rivalry makes no sense.
Also -
Hona Accord Euro vs. Subaru Liberty/Legacy vs. Mazda 6.
Driftster
Sep 20, 2005, 10:56 PM
Jetta vs golf
Civic Vs Integra
Supra Vs Skyline Vs Rx7
Imprezza Vs Evo
Gt3 Vs 360CS
CGT Vs Enzo
F40 Vs F50
green72chevy
Sep 21, 2005, 12:20 AM
Mustang vs. Camaro
jonny_gsx
Sep 21, 2005, 1:00 AM
I also forgot:
Prelude vs. Eclipse,
hmm... not so much
jonny_gsx
Sep 21, 2005, 1:03 AM
civic vs all
hmmm... DEFINATLY not so much
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 1:08 AM
Eclipse GS-T Vs Eclipse GSX
Escalade Vs Navigator
V1P3rEatR17
Sep 21, 2005, 1:13 AM
Yes. And the new Z06 is about to make this old rivalry a lot more interesting.
Indeed. And if only Dodge could up the Viper's MPG the it'd be a much closer one. I dunno...but to me double the MPG is very enticing in a close decision like that...when you're getting the same kind of performance. You know, with gas how it is now and all.
(Yea...I know...I spend way too much time thinking about this kinda stuff)
jonny_gsx
Sep 21, 2005, 1:15 AM
Indeed. And if only Dodge could up the Viper's MPG the it'd be a much closer one. I dunno...but to me double the MPG is very enticing in a close decision like that...when you're getting the same kind of performance. You know, with gas how it is now and all.
(Yea...I know...I spend way too much time thinking about this kinda stuff)
and how, exactly would you double the mpg on a v10?:D
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 1:15 AM
Ford GT 40 Vs Ferrari whatever it was
Lamborghini count Vs Ferrari Whatever..
Lambo Diablo Vs Ferrari whatever
SaleenRunner04
Sep 21, 2005, 1:25 AM
So basically:
Lamborghini "Insert Model Here" VS Ferrari "Insert Model Here"
Porsche Boxster vs Mercedes SLK
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 1:34 AM
Mazda Miata Vs Testosterone
V1P3rEatR17
Sep 21, 2005, 1:39 AM
and how, exactly would you double the mpg on a v10?:D
:-k Not being an engineer...I am not sure. Allz I know is that the Viper's poor gas mileage just kinda knocks it to the side of other high-end cars like vettes(z06) and Porsches, which also achieve incredible speed and acceleration...but with much better gas mileage. The Viper's gas mileage with gas how it is nowdays just kinda would make me hesitate about driving it so often, and to work and stuff etc.
wanna koenigsegg
Sep 21, 2005, 2:00 AM
Holden commodore vs Ford falcoln- only in australia though
Top Secret
Sep 21, 2005, 2:26 AM
Holden commodore vs Ford falcoln- only in australia though
*See Post #15.
Thanos
Sep 21, 2005, 2:45 AM
I think it is between the Subaru Impresa and the Evo
jonny_gsx
Sep 21, 2005, 2:47 AM
Mazda Miata Vs Testosterone
Drifster vs usefull post
OOOOOO!!!
Burrrrrnnnnnn!!
wanna koenigsegg
Sep 21, 2005, 3:12 AM
*See Post #15.
couldn't be f*cked reading everyones thoughts, read the first then posted.
wanna koenigsegg
Sep 21, 2005, 3:16 AM
^^^ Well then,
HSV vs FPV
the threads about models of cars not companies,
-so Hsv clubsport R8 vs Fpv GT-P
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 3:25 AM
Drifster vs usefull post
OOOOOO!!!
Burrrrrnnnnnn!!
DITTO!!!!
OUUUCCCHHHHH ricochet
Mclaren F1 Vs Koenigsegg CCR
Prowler Vs Corvette
M3 Vs S4
350Z Vs Rx8
NSX-R Vs C5 Z06!!!!!!
Lotus Exige Vs Caterham Super7
Westfield XTR2 Vs Radical (not sure of the name)
S10 VS Ranger
Frontier Vs Tacoma
Top Secret
Sep 21, 2005, 3:37 AM
Mclaren F1 Vs Koenigsegg CCR
Uhh..no. I don't think this one is really one of the 'Greatest Car Rivalries'.
wanna koenigsegg
Sep 21, 2005, 3:46 AM
Uhh..no. I don't think this one is really one of the 'Greatest Car Rivalries'.
probably is, the koenigsegg ccr took one of the most treasured car records in existence from the mclaren F1.
and it probably isn't because neither sell thousands of models each year in stacks of countries.
PointBlank187
Sep 21, 2005, 4:13 AM
this is a new one...but will last for a long time Pontiac Solstive vs Mazda Miata
Mustang vs Camaro
Vette vs Viper
Civic vs Celica vs Eclipse vs SE-R
Evo vs WRX (base and Sti)
3 series vs IS300 vs G35
Z vs S2000 vs RX-8
911 vs Ambulance's
Geo Metro vs Tercel
Sebring Convertible vs Taurus
Boxster vs Z3/4
5 series vs E class
7 series vs S class
612 Scaglietti vs $6.50 spaghetti
Ram Pickup vs F-150 vs Tundra vs Titan
Tacoma vs Ranger
Aleksander
Sep 21, 2005, 7:27 AM
BMW 3series vs Audi A4 vs Mercedes C-class
Mercedes E-class vs Audi A6 vs BMW 5series
and so on
VW Golf vs Opel Astra vs Peugeot 307
nivlek
Sep 21, 2005, 8:03 AM
me vs you
Quest vs Sienna
Altezza/IS350 (or IS300) vs RX8?
Subaru2005
Sep 21, 2005, 9:14 AM
350z vs rx8 (maybe)
Impreza vs evo
Gallardo vs f430
all i can think of atm
crossle 32f
Sep 21, 2005, 9:21 AM
You forgot the most obvious :
Aveo vs Echo vs Accent vs Rio !
The REAL peoples match !
Metallica Forever
Sep 21, 2005, 9:54 AM
BMW 3 series vs All Small/Compact Executive Sedan(Merc,Audi,Lexus).Benchamark will always face great competition who wants to set a new benchmark.Happy that BMW is still the one to beat.
tabber
Sep 21, 2005, 10:07 AM
OUUUCCCHHHHH ricochet
Have you ever seen the Thunderbirds? There was one episode where this dude named Rick O'Shea was a DJ for a pirate TV station orbiting Earth. He was just floating through space playing like I dream of Genie or something and he would add some commentary between sets and his favorite thing to do was say his name and then the human hand of Loman would press this button on a dashboard and there would be this ricochet sound effect. Rick O'Shea couldn't stand Loman's incompetence or his company. Anyway KLA (the TV station) got hit by a missile and Jeff Tracy was like "let's rescue this b*tch"
Jeff Tracy
http://www.algonet.se/~tourtel/images/thunderbirds/JeffTracy.jpg
Then it was "Thunderbirds to the rescue" as usual.
I remember when Thunderbird 3 was rescuing him, Rick said "I don't want to sound dramatic, but my air supply isn't going to last forever.” What an asshole.
Emohawk
Sep 21, 2005, 6:33 PM
Forgive an uninformed newbie, tabber, but do you ever make sense?
How about the other Subaru vs. Mitsubishi rivalry;
Legacy vs. Galant
OR
3000GT vs. SVX
I suppose that wasn't much of a fight though.
Iroc-Z89
Sep 21, 2005, 6:48 PM
American Muscle versus Japanese Rice,,, we got our asses kicked in the early nineties. But its pretty even now.
Kirstyn
Sep 21, 2005, 6:49 PM
Forgive an uninformed newbie, tabber, but do you ever make sense?
How about the other Subaru vs. Mitsubishi rivalry;
Legacy vs. Galant
OR
3000GT vs. SVX
I suppose that wasn't much of a fight though.
You from GTP?
xMustangManx 70
Sep 21, 2005, 6:50 PM
dodge ram vs. ford r-series vs. chevy silverado
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 6:53 PM
3000GT Vs SVX?
What are you drunk?
The SVX is a piece of italian styled crap on wheels with an underpowered motor and an automatic tranny..
....pleeze
Emohawk
Sep 21, 2005, 9:19 PM
Automatic, yes. Underpowered, okay.
But it looks great! Are you knocking Italian styling?
You from GTP?
Yes, that's where I heard of this place.
Top Secret
Sep 21, 2005, 9:24 PM
Automatic, yes. Underpowered, okay.
But it looks great! Are you knocking Italian styling?
I am. It's double window design element is just laughable.
http://www.wright.edu/~tiruveedhula.2/SVX/exterior/exterior1.JPG
slowfiveoh
Sep 21, 2005, 9:31 PM
American Muscle versus Japanese Rice,,, we got our asses kicked in the early nineties. But its pretty even now.
By what and in what events?
BofoMills
Sep 21, 2005, 10:12 PM
That rivalry makes no sense.
Yes it does.
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 11:06 PM
yeah it does.
Civic Vs integra is a GREAT rivalry..
Not only between the cars themselves..
Si VS GSR
R Vs R Etc etc....
but the Civic Fans Vs Integra fans..
It can get very very heated
P.s.
Subaru SVX is probably the ugliest thing Subaru has EVER made..
yes including those old subaru's that look like old Celica's....ETC
The SVX is just an all around awful vehicle.
that's starting price back when it debuted(early 90's)..
was 40+ thousand..
Ghalos
Sep 21, 2005, 11:23 PM
I've ridden in one...it's comfy, fast, luxurious...and a damn rare car.
Great for long distance trips imo.
Driftster
Sep 21, 2005, 11:25 PM
rare?
yeah..kinda...
but there are 5 here.....3 Green 2 white....
ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly..
---edit
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA @ Below
slowfiveoh
Sep 21, 2005, 11:25 PM
I saw one once. I carfeully glanced over the curves of the body. Saw my reflection in the paint. Noticed the careful build quality of the car. Opened the door and glanced at the leather interior.
Then I peed on it.
ferrarikid24
Sep 21, 2005, 11:31 PM
I saw one once. I carfeully glanced over the curves of the body. Saw my reflection in the paint. Noticed the careful build quality of the car. Opened the door and glanced at the leather interior.
Then I peed on it.
haha that was funny as hell..
slowfiveoh
Sep 21, 2005, 11:41 PM
What?! It seemed so obvious to me that this was Subarus attempt at a toilet. I couldnt figure out how to flush it though. Damn multilayer window frames were making me dizzy...
Infernal Combustion
Sep 22, 2005, 1:19 AM
Funny part is piss doesn't come out of leather.
Best car rivalries of all time? Heres a few I can think of off the top of my head.
the obligatory Mustang vs. Camaro,
Bronco vs. Blazer
GTO vs. Fairlane
C1 Vette vs. original T-bird
F-series vs. Silverado
sti vs. evo
Toyota 4x4 pickup & Tacoma vs. Jeep CJs & Wrangler
parko1990
Sep 22, 2005, 1:37 AM
By what and in what events?
In the early 90's R32 GT-R's owned the Holden's and Ford's etc. at Bathurst.
They were then kicked out.
Driftster
Sep 22, 2005, 1:49 AM
R32 = so fast it was banned
slowfiveoh
Sep 22, 2005, 2:00 AM
In the early 90's R32 GT-R's owned the Holden's and Ford's etc. at Bathurst.
They were then kicked out.
Completely different continent man. Thats ok no Skylines over here. Everything Japanese over here was getting raped.
Driftster
Sep 22, 2005, 5:03 AM
early 90's jap cars in the US......
NSX wasn't gettin raped.....
Neither was the supra....
People just wern't buying them
slowfiveoh
Sep 22, 2005, 5:10 AM
early 90's jap cars in the US......
NSX wasn't gettin raped.....
Neither was the supra....
People just wern't buying them
When initially sold no the NSX was making out pretty good, Then the Viper just made it look silly. Then costing 75k looked retarded when it was being beat by bone stock LT1 Camaros down the 1320.
The MA70 Supra? Dont even get me started. Crapbucket. The end.
93 on up supra? Ok now we're talkin. Yeah that might be the only car from that area that wasnt being appreciated like it should have been, because RX7's,MR2's, and the like weren't doing CRAP. The third gen RX7 made a nice craptastic name for itself in our market at least, and unlike the fervent belief of one of our resident n00bs the MR2 is the greatest poop to never do anything ever.
wanna koenigsegg
Sep 22, 2005, 5:31 AM
In the early 90's R32 GT-R's owned the Holden's and Ford's etc. at Bathurst.
They were then kicked out.
because there were minimal power to weight restrictions in those days!
when it was evened up and there were fair regulations the GT-R's were the ones being owned.
Top Secret
Sep 22, 2005, 5:51 AM
when it was evened up and there were fair regulations the GT-R's were the ones being owned.
Phht, no one cars about power to weight restrictions and none of that uber-detailed stuff. You Holden and Ford fans are just trying to find some decent exuse for getting smashed by a car with a 2.6L inline-6.
Holden and Ford got owned. No but's about it.
wanna koenigsegg
Sep 22, 2005, 6:19 AM
Phht, no one cars about power to weight restrictions and none of that uber-detailed stuff.
^that makes no sense. at all.
In motor racing there needs to be power to weight restrictions, gearbox restrictions etc.etc. just like there are now to make the class fair for all competitors. when holden and ford are being restricted in these areas and nissan aren't thats unfair.
for example stone brothers racing could develop a 1200hp engine and then castrol perkins may only have the resources to develop an 800hp engine.
If there wasnt any regulations GT-R's would be getting raped. No point even trying to justify this- just look at the 24 hour races
parko1990
Sep 22, 2005, 7:27 AM
Stop saying raped. It's been over used now.
Use molested instead.
-sTi-
Sep 22, 2005, 8:49 PM
I dunno if this has been mentioned.
2005 Ford GT vs 2005 Ferarri F430
Metallica Forever
Sep 23, 2005, 7:36 AM
I would really wonder if a person will choose a F430 instead of a Ford GT
trev
Sep 23, 2005, 10:39 AM
caterhams and westfields and all the others
Driftster
Sep 23, 2005, 5:49 PM
Metallica..I would.....
Then sell it ..Get a Ford GT...and a house
slowfiveoh
Sep 23, 2005, 6:20 PM
Metallica..I would.....
Then sell it ..Get a Ford GT...and a house
No Money talk!!!
RabbleRabbleRabbleRabbleRabble!!!!
Driftster
Sep 23, 2005, 7:01 PM
:D I know..but this isn't a car comparison....He asked a question
Boooyaaatribe!
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 10:38 AM
2002(japan) RX-7 vs. all
mclaren f1 LM vs. Ariel Atom<<<<insane
eclipse vs. miata
enzo vs. carrera
Driftster
Oct 05, 2005, 10:40 AM
I never thought about that..
Eclipse Vs Miata..
Both are driven by their fare shair of women..
and hairdressers..
and pillow biters..
WHICH ONE ATTACTS MORE MEN!!
parko1990
Oct 05, 2005, 10:45 AM
What about the STi vs EVO?
How many people just wanted to punch me. lol
crossle 32f
Oct 05, 2005, 10:49 AM
I never thought about that..
Eclipse Vs Miata..
Both are driven by their fare shair of women..
and hairdressers..
and pillow biters..
WHICH ONE ATTACTS MORE MEN!!Well, I know of one that attracts Ghalos, LOL !
And maybe me too...:-k
Driftster
Oct 05, 2005, 10:53 AM
..I said Miata's...not Ferrari's..
Geez people read!
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 10:54 AM
i think that the evo is a lil faster
Iroc-Z89
Oct 05, 2005, 10:56 AM
I like the pillow biters that can dress their own hair...
Umm, Mustang versus Camaro.... They really need to bring our baby back... We need more pony cars
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 10:58 AM
tang vs. camaro is good but those are more distance races how bout RX-7 vs. mustang
Iroc-Z89
Oct 05, 2005, 11:02 AM
Depends on what year stang, some stangs can still get pissed on by my dead grandmothers junkyard Ford Escort. 1989-1992 Fox and versus a RX-7 and its the stang all the way. 1993-1998 And I vote RX-7
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 11:05 AM
rx7 can beat a stang trust me and its alwayz close till you get into the 05 gt but any thing lower than that rx7
Iroc-Z89
Oct 05, 2005, 11:08 AM
I call Foxbody from 1989-1992, as long as the Stang has a manual T-5 and not the slush box auto. The 1993 to 1998 anything can kick the crap out of
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 11:36 AM
what about above that
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 11:38 AM
newer models
Iroc-Z89
Oct 05, 2005, 12:01 PM
After 2003 they should rip you a new one, the 1999-2002 were decently fast... The 1993's to 1998's saw the death of the 302, and the rise of the very cheap 4.6.. Tke notice that this motor(4.6) needs forced induction to keep up with the average engine.
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 5:26 PM
well the 2002 rx-7 is pretty fast i would put it up against the newer ones as long as its not a shelby or roush but gt wise i think the rotary has it
slowfiveoh
Oct 05, 2005, 7:00 PM
After 2003 they should rip you a new one, the 1999-2002 were decently fast... The 1993's to 1998's saw the death of the 302, and the rise of the very cheap 4.6.. Tke notice that this motor(4.6) needs forced induction to keep up with the average engine.
Take notice you dont know what you're talking about. Im not going to justify those comments with a lengthly response. Anyone can use google. The 1995 Mustang was the last to see the 5.0 . The 4.6 took less time, with less prep work to get into the 8's than the 5.0. Think about that for a second. Also the appropriately rated 32v DOHC Cobra (4-valvers for the cobra types) was right on the heels of the LS1 Z28's.
The 03/04 Cobra just wiped the Camaro off the map. :)
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 7:59 PM
that still doesnt mean it could beat a rx7
slowfiveoh
Oct 05, 2005, 8:08 PM
that still doesnt mean it could beat a rx7
Low 13's doesnt mean it will beat a RX7?? You better just stop right there dude. Around a track, as in not a straight line, I concede. The RX7 is the superior handler of the two, but the sheer grunt of the stang is enough to make it easily compete with the RX7 if not beat it. If you want to step into the world of modification the RX7 has a chance in hell to play with a Mustang down the 1320'. RX7's arent really super fast. They're quick and all but there is much more emphasis on handling. Dont expect it to ever match the sheer grunt of a Mustangs smallblock.
Iroc-Z89
Oct 05, 2005, 8:18 PM
lets see, what am i talking about 1993-1998 saw the death of the 302... you justified that
4.6= what was that crappy engine from the 90's? secondly i will say that an s/c'ed 4.6 will knock a 346 off the line.. especially considering the car went out of production.
Driftster
Oct 05, 2005, 8:22 PM
4.6 = turd N/A..That's all we have to say..
The advancements that came about made force induction more effective in the engine..
Just leave it at that.
If you want a high HP n/a or Fi engine...get a 300+ something or other..
If you want a car that can effectively get gains reliably with f/i and still be practical....get a 4.6...Not to mention the stangs with the 4.6's had like 10x better brakes
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 8:37 PM
yeah the stang is faster down the line ill give ya that as long as the driver knows what hes doin but the 2000rx7s can stay preatty close not the rx8 i wont even get into that subject but a 1999-2002 rx7 can hold its own against a stang in curves and down the line i'm not saying it will win but it will be close
Iroc-Z89
Oct 05, 2005, 8:43 PM
what size rotors
mavric_05
Oct 05, 2005, 8:51 PM
i dont rmember the size but they come with tri-rotary engines
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