In your oppinion whats the best car maker in Rallye history?

let me guess... subarukid, the first subaru vote is all yours!!!
Im wrong?

Lancia : Fulvia, Stratos. No need to say more if you know your rally...

Lancia : Fulvia, Stratos. No need to say more if you know your rally...

agree... I voted on Lancia too because we are talking about the rallye histoy not todays WRC

what do you mean by best rally..like best production car that you can go out and rally or like the professional rally?

I said Audi. They were soo good that they were kicked out because the Quattro all wheel drive system was considered too much of an advantage. That's when you know you're good.

I said Audi. They were soo good that they were kicked out because the Quattro all wheel drive system was considered too much of an advantage. That's when you know you're good.

Audi for me... He said exactly what I wanted to say!!!

Lancia? I havnt seen a Lancia in like forever.

Audi for me,

what do you mean by best rally..like best production car that you can go out and rally or like the professional rally?

I mean Rallye professional competicion: WRC

ohh..well its hard to tell since those cars are massivly modded.

Lancia : Fulvia, Stratos. No need to say more if you know your rally...

I agree 100%, and don't forget the Lancia Intergrale's they may not have looked the best, but boy did they get the job done.

I agree 100%, and don't forget the Lancia Intergrale's they may not have looked the best, but boy did they get the job done.Oh yes you're right ! I have this annoying tendency to remember things too far back in the past !:p

ah well it's all good. I love the Lancia Stratos though, one of my favourite cars of all time. Originally convinced by Pininfarina, beautiful lines. It was one of the last non-4wheeldrive cars to win before the introduction of the Quattro by Audi, if my memory serves me correct.

Audi Quattro for shure,

man, I love those cars

obviously everyone knows who im gonna say and just to make it clear... it has to be ford :smt120

Na im just kiddin obviously it would be subaru for me :smt098

It was a toss up between audi and lancia..

But I voted audi..

IMO subaru never really had GREAT cars...they just had GREAT drivers

Ive always been a sucker for a Lanica in Martini colors. The Delta S4 is my fav.

ah well it's all good. I love the Lancia Stratos though, one of my favourite cars of all time. Originally convinced by Pininfarina, beautiful lines. It was one of the last non-4wheeldrive cars to win before the introduction of the Quattro by Audi, if my memory serves me correct.

It does. Only the Lancia 037 Rally and the Fiat 131 Abarth fill the lapse between the Stratos and the 4x4's: Audi Quattro and Lancia Integrale.

audi for me.

ITs between the SUbaru and the Audi Quattro.But being a German car fan I'll choose the AUDI

Here is a few stats that might help in your choices or reconsider those already made. Bear in mind the title of the thread...

CAR MAKER (Number of World Rally Championships)

LANCIA (11)
PEUGEOT (5)
SUBARU-FIAT-TOYOTA (3)
AUDI-CITROEN-ALPINE RENAULT (2)
PORSCHE-TALBOT-MITSUBISHI-FORD (1)

Sports are judged by results and not by personal preferences.
No contest here: LANCIA is the undisputed best rally car manufacturer.

It does. Only the Lancia 037 Rally and the Fiat 131 Abarth fill the lapse between the Stratos and the 4x4's: Audi Quattro and Lancia Integrale.

Thanks. I knew it was somewhere around the time just before the Quattro. And pertaining to your last post... I couldn't agree more.

I said Audi. They were soo good that they were kicked out because the Quattro all wheel drive system was considered too much of an advantage. That's when you know you're good.

Wrong. The Audi Quattro and other cars of that generation were banned because rallying had become very dangerous. Too much horsepower, very small frames, much too light, very high speeds...many deaths, both drivers and spectators.
FIA changed the rules and those magnificent cars were gone.

I couldn't get any overall pics of the "street" Delta S4 at Turin in '86 due to the hordes of drooling carnuts. Tube frame, M4WD, carbon-fiber shell, with a backseat mounted super and turbocharged 1.8L 4-cyl with a modest 450 hp makes me salivate.

As long as it's not mostly uphill, the S4 is a potential winner in RS2.

It's amazing how subaru got so many votes..

People must not follow rally that much,..

i know lancia has had more victories overall, but ill take the audi quattros.
in this case german over italian.

and btw alfa romeos are junk.

It was basicly between Lancia and Audi. Lancia in my oppinion made the greatest rally car of all time...the Stratos. It was so much ahead of its time. Audi offcourse started the 4WD revolution.

I'm gonna say Lancia still, and it was the Startos that made me vote for it.

How long is it since subaru entered WRC?

lancia for me to, citroen have been successful in recent times and they have a great car setup

It's amazing how subaru got so many votes..

People must not follow rally that much,..

Driftster, do u not like Subaru for like road cars, rally cars, racing cars. i mean at all?

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Driftster, do u not like Subaru for like road cars, rally cars, racing cars. i mean at all?

IM still thinking that Drifter suffer something like a scoobie TRAUMA.....

Maybe in a night, he dream about a subaru that hits him with the bumper and eat him instantly with the Hood scoop......:D
that's the only explanation i can found
:D

No it's called their ugly poor designed crappy sounding cars....They've just had the $$/Luck to get great drivers....

i have to disagree with drifster! I bet you've never even sat in a Scooby, and if you have then i'm sorry, but how can you not like them!! we fell in love with our Scooby straight away, it's not ugly, its extremely reliable, and it doesn't sound bad at all!! And no I don't work for subaru if ya wondering!

i have to disagree with drifster! I bet you've never even sat in a Scooby, and if you have then i'm sorry, but how can you not like them!! we fell in love with our Scooby straight away, it's not ugly, its extremely reliable, and it doesn't sound bad at all!! And no I don't work for subaru if ya wondering!

lol, yeah i love the boxer engine, it sounds gr8.

:cry: I unfortunatly have never sat in a subaru yet :eek: (that may shock a lot of u's, in fact it shocked me!!!!!!!!!!!!!) :(

Oh i've sat in both the EJ20 and 2.5 WRX and STi....

Neither of which were comfortable..
neither of which had eithe A: a nice ride or B: a performance oriented ride..

it was right uncomfrotably in the middle of the 2...

and the constant buzzing of the 3 cyl sound that engine puts out with exhaust was not only tickeling my ear drum...it was just gross sounding..

but yeah, i've sat in my share of scoobies..
1 while he was doing a launch and dropped his transmission..
Man did I laugh

lol, yeah i love the boxer engine, it sounds gr8.

:cry: I unfortunatly have never sat in a subaru yet :eek: (that may shock a lot of u's, in fact it shocked me!!!!!!!!!!!!!) :(

WHAT???.........you never ride or drive a subaru???
You're missing something wonderfull.......
I cant explain that with just words.......that's something GREAT (driving or riding a scoobie)

I have a couple of videos of me filming inside a 500HP subaru wrx of my brother in law in a street racing....
if u're interesting, send me a private
see ya:cool: