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Mopar68
Jun 05, 2003, 9:39 PM
My personal pick would definatly be the 1968 Dodge Coronet R/T. Real car looks, Real Engine, Real sound. What's yours? Explain why.

NiGiz
Jun 06, 2003, 4:42 AM
Vette "Stingray". One of the very few American cars that i really like. Do u really need me to explain why dude?? Don't think so... 8)

Mopar68
Jun 06, 2003, 4:07 PM
Which Vette stingray? They made a whole bunch of them throughout the years. I would like you to explain. What do you like about it? The shape? the sound? the colors? the cool factor? Stuff like that. I don't need alot.

mallon
Jun 06, 2003, 4:14 PM
dam the '69 stingray, that was a beautiful car, and sounded ( like all american carbarated cars did at the time) fantastic...

Although around that time the Ford GT40 was the pinicle of american car design. - I definetly dont have to explain that choice!

NiGiz
Jun 06, 2003, 6:27 PM
Yeap, it sounded good, it looked good, it WAS good(quality), and it had a lot of power :D

Mopar68
Jun 06, 2003, 9:58 PM
Yes, very true. The vette stingray was an amazing car. But I wouldn't consider the GT40 as a muscle car. Infact, i think it was co-designed by British Lola.

mallon
Jun 07, 2003, 8:29 AM
I wouldn't consider the GT40 as a muscle car

nor would I, I was just comparing its looks with the vette!

Mopar68
Jun 07, 2003, 10:22 PM
what to compare? more of a comparison to the vette is the ac cobra 427. There is no real american car that can be compared to the GT40 or GT. Except for maybe the delorean (in it's dreams!!!)

mallon
Jun 08, 2003, 7:27 AM
what to compare?

Like i said above... looks!
Im not saying they look similar - im just refering to how good looking these 2 cars are. :D

Mopar68
Jun 09, 2003, 6:23 PM
What year would you consider the pinnicle of the muscle car era? State some examples? Explain why.

frankeee5
Jul 06, 2003, 3:50 AM
Well, who has the longest running muscle car to date? That is the Mustang! Unless your are goin to include the Vette, but i'm not goin to count that b/c of how it's evolved. However, my favorite, comes from the MOPAR family, and also has a HEMI. A 1972 Plymouth Roadrunner, is the best muscle car!

Saman
Jul 08, 2003, 12:03 AM
HW CAN YOU LEAVE OUT CHEVY!!!

Mopar68
Jul 08, 2003, 11:14 PM
well, i wouldn't consider the mustang a muscle car. It is a pony car. It is and always will be. And your all going to like this one. I made up a new type of car. It only relates to two cars, the viper and the corvette. I call them hustlecars. I mean i can't call them muscle cars or convertables are sportscars. They don't fit. So i made up a new class. So in my eyes, corvettes aren't muscle cars. I belive a muscle car is a high performance model of a big sedan or coupe, such as The SS, R/T or 427. All muscle cars were based on innocent family cars. They weren't purpose built. Get it? I don't think i'm explaining myself right.

Saman
Jul 09, 2003, 11:50 AM
i get what u mean but know i am a little confused :roll:

Mopar68
Jul 09, 2003, 2:39 PM
okay, let me try to explain it better. Let's takew the dodge charger. It started out as a family car. Dodge decided to put a 440 in it and, pooph, it's the charger R/T. All muscle cars are based of cars such as thwe charger.

Saman
Jul 10, 2003, 12:47 AM
oh, ic what you mean. Actually yesterday A 1972 Charger with a 440 block that was completely restored got sold on Ebay motors for $6,500. Is that good or what. Man i should of bid $7,000 on it

Mopar68
Jul 11, 2003, 12:55 PM
yuck. A 72 charger. They got real ugly and fat and really really slow after 70. I could see why it sold for $6500. I saw 66 Charger with a 383 for 8k. It was perfect, but i wouldn't want it beacuase think of how much it would cost to buy new parts. It was also pretty slow and boxy. I'd musch rather have my ford focus sedan over that charger. It wouldn't have been a very god first car anyway! :shock:

Speed$Freak
Jul 11, 2003, 5:31 PM
SRT Famliy!!! :twisted: :D :P

Rhino
Apr 26, 2005, 2:28 AM
Muscle cars were made mainly in Detroit in 60's-70's, whereas some were made in Australia. Car makers put V8 engines into some mid-size cars, so they obtained extreme high power, and looked like sportscars, but the handling capability couldn't compare with sporties. Pontiac GTO is supposed to be the herald of this trend, which was derived from the entry-level car Tempest. BTW, I heard yestoday that the father of GTO, John Delorean, died recently. In the mid-70's, muscle cars died down in the new car market due to the oil embargo, stricter air pollution laws and insurance premiums.
Pony cars are easy to be confused with muscle cars. They also have a big displacement engine, and started from 60's. You can also see them as baby muscle cars because the chassises they were built on were classified as compact class in that era. Mustang no doubt built this catagory, filled in by Camaro, Firebird, AMC Javelin and so on. By now Mustang is also the only survivor after Camaro/Firebird ceased production in 2003.
Like muscle cars, pony cars emphasize the performance in a straight line rather than maneuverability. The lastest version of Mustang still remains the solid rear axle. Don't idolize multi-link suspension, the winning of FR500C in Grand-Am has proven that solid axle can also win on road if it is designed and tuned properly. It also reminds me that definitions, names, brands and even specs are all not important, for a designer or engineer at least.
I oughtn't to have the qualification to introduce, because in China we seldom contact the classics, vintages and sporties in reality. And forgive my English as I always make mistakes.

igaboj
Apr 26, 2005, 2:52 AM
You know.. most of the people that have posted in this thread can't even hear you. This topic is more than a year old, and bringing up old topics is not a good thing.