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skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 7:15 AM
Well today my commute to work was interesting to say the least.

When heading to work i noticed 3 police cars with lights going at the side of the road, I didnt know why they were there but i continued on my way around a round about, police were to the left of me directing traffic when suddenly a silver mondeo cut me up and slammed on. Mondeo has 4 big tyres and 4 disk brakes. i have 2 wheels with drum brakes. As i brake the front wheel locks up at about 30mph and before i can blink i am rolling on the road. surrounded by angry drivers honking the horn for me to get out of the way (very nice of them) i was aided by 2 cops to the side of the road and was being scowled at by plenty of motorists for slowing down there commute to work. The steering is out of line on the bike im not sure if its twisted or knocked but its not rideable now. and my left leg is ****ed and swollen.

Other than that a great start to the day.

SlipperyLizard
Aug 21, 2008, 7:26 AM
That sounds painful, hope you get better soon!

millmAn
Aug 21, 2008, 7:30 AM
You gotta love people when they are in the mindset of getting to work. Anyway, take some Advil and put some ice on your leg and enjoy the time off. It's good to hear that it didn't turn out worse, which it easily could've.

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 7:36 AM
Yeah definately could have been worse. The funny thing is i only had to go into work for 2.5 hours to make uo for being late last week with a puncture lol.

TBR 427
Aug 21, 2008, 7:41 AM
Thats what happens when I drive like a ****.
I cannot lock up that badly and crash my bike doing the speed limit and driving sensibly. Even if it was a country road and a 60mph limit I should have the sense to drive safely.



Im glad I didnt hurt anybody else but thats about it.


This irony is even more delicious than that caramel fudge I ate earleir. And that was some good fudge, too. I mean seriously good fudge.

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 7:48 AM
Firstly unless you have ever ridden a motorbike before you will have no idea how easy it is to do things like that in wet conditions. Cars and bikes are nothing alike. I had an accident manily because of an inconsiderate car driver and terrible road conditions. I reacted the best way i could but it wasnt good enough. Frewin went round a corner too fast which had nothing to do with enybody else. There is no irony there at all. Grow up and unless you want to say something constructive **** off.

Elmo187
Aug 21, 2008, 7:49 AM
This irony is even more delicious than that caramel fudge I ate earleir. And that was some good fudge, too. I mean seriously good fudge.
explain to me sir how this is irony....

considering someone CUT HIM OFF, this would make the whole driving like a douche bag thing not really a problem SINCE IT WASN'T HIS FAULT!

TBR 427
Aug 21, 2008, 7:59 AM
Firstly unless you have ever ridden a motorbike before you will have no idea how easy it is to do things like that in wet conditions. Cars and bikes are nothing alike. I had an accident manily because of an inconsiderate car driver and terrible road conditions. I reacted the best way i could but it wasnt good enough. Frewin went round a corner too fast which had nothing to do with enybody else.
If both you and frewin had remembered the two golden rules of driving/riding, neither would have happened.
1/ everyone on the road is a flaming retard. watch the **** out.
2/ if it looks like the conditions are good, there's a good chance that you'll be getting a close-up look very soon.

I learnt them from driving a boat, and my first drive being in a small country town with more red kangaroos on the road than people in the surrounding suburbs combined.
There is no irony there at all.
wait for it....
Grow up and unless you want to say something constructive **** off.

Mmmmm more delicious irony!

Elmo187
Aug 21, 2008, 8:04 AM
wow, you really are retarded aren't you?

TBR 427
Aug 21, 2008, 8:12 AM
wow, you really are retarded aren't you?


Grow up and unless you want to say something constructive **** off.


I can keep flipping you his posts, or you can get over it.

fluffy, how badly damaged is the steering? Is it easily repairable or will it spend the next week (and next week's pay) in the hands of the local repair guy?

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 8:14 AM
TBR Why bother posting??? Did you even read what happened? i was brake checked and the bike slid, there was not a thing i could have done about it without endangering myself or others further. Frewin lost control of his car by himself, nobody else. I lost control of the bike because of ignorant drivers.

You really need to grow up.

millmAn
Aug 21, 2008, 8:16 AM
This irony is even more delicious than that caramel fudge I ate earleir. And that was some good fudge, too. I mean seriously good fudge.
I am not going to go there, but I'm guessing you are not aware of the innuendos that you just used. In the process of you trying to turn someone into an arse, it could backfire on you.

Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just sayin'...;)

Roadkill
Aug 21, 2008, 8:17 AM
What do you drive? I have a 50cc 72kg moped and even that has 2 disc brakes.

TBR 427
Aug 21, 2008, 8:19 AM
TBR Why bother posting??? Did you even read what happened? i was brake checked and the bike slid, there was not a thing i could have done about it without endangering myself or others further. Frewin lost control of his car by himself, nobody else. I lost control of the bike because of ignorant drivers.

You really need to grow up.
Oh sorry, I must have missed the bit where the mondeo guy reached across and grabbed the handlebars.

You're as at fault for this as frewin was for his crash (not the rollover bit though).

Mondeo's don't just pop out of fat air, and there should always be a plan b for when the **** hits the fan in any way, at any time.

EDIT: no I did not mean for the fudge inuendo. For the record, it's Russian Caramel Fudge, from the uni confectionary store. Delicious, but a bit pricey.

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 8:23 AM
What do you drive? I have a 50cc 72kg moped and even that has 2 disc brakes.

I have a 1996 Honda CG 125.

Oh sorry, I must have missed the bit where the mondeo guy reached across and grabbed the handlebars.

You're as at fault for this as frewin was for his crash (not the rollover bit though).

Mondeo's don't just pop out of fat air, and there should always be a plan b for when the **** hits the fan in any way, at any time.

The mondeo was in the wrong lane and swerved infornt on me and hit the brakes hard, what could i do when he was 10ft infront of me?? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and have no perception on riding motorbikes in heavy rain. in busy traffic. You are only posting here to be ****ing annoying..... well congratulations job well done, i hope you get hit by a bus today so i can ask where your plan b was.

TBR 427
Aug 21, 2008, 8:35 AM
The mondeo was in the wrong lane and swerved infornt on me and hit the brakes hard, what could i do when he was 10ft infront of me?? You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and have no perception on riding motorbikes in heavy rain. in busy traffic. You are only posting here to be ****ing annoying..... well congratulations job well done, i hope you get hit by a bus today so i can ask where your plan b was.
OH. I'm sorry, it must have been soooo much worse than driving a 17ft plate boat with 2.0m swell in a torrential thunderstorm, waves breaking over the front, and the prop airing every second. Oh, and about 6m visibility.
Had a container ship come 'from nowhere', find the closest side and drive alongside it. Had a 3m swell come 'from nowhere', flick and catch it; there's no use fighting that when you've only got 70hp...

Also, it's night and there's 10m of brick between me and the road. Two shuriken next to my bed. I'm ready for anything 10:35pm can throw at me.

And yes, part of the reason i posted was to annoy you by pointing out the delicious, delicious irony. The other part hated you because you were complacent.

Ghalos
Aug 21, 2008, 8:39 AM
The funny thing is i only had to go into work for 2.5 hours to make uo for being late last week with a puncture lol.

That is truly ironic.

:o

And see, it *is* ironic that you are missing work because you were in an accident on your way to work...To make up work from the previous week because you well, missed it because of another "accident".

...Point being.

That's ironic.

And, TBR calm down, you too Skyline.

:)

And no, I am not calling you fluffy.

Driftster
Aug 21, 2008, 8:46 AM
I did that my very first time on a bike...it was my friends oooollld honda POS...

He failed to tell me his front brakes were a little grabby...
and boom..over i went..

then i repeated this event on my friends mountain bike he JUST bought..but he loved it so much i subconsciously caught it before it hit the ground...Ninja style


glad to hear you're alright mate.

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 8:50 AM
OH. I'm sorry, it must have been soooo much worse than driving a 17ft plate boat with 2.0m swell in a torrential thunderstorm, waves breaking over the front, and the prop airing every second. Oh, and about 6m visibility.
Had a container ship come 'from nowhere', find the closest side and drive alongside it. Had a 3m swell come 'from nowhere', flick and catch it; there's no use fighting that when you've only got 70hp...

Also, it's night and there's 10m of brick between me and the road. Two shuriken next to my bed. I'm ready for anything 10:35pm can throw at me.

And yes, part of the reason i posted was to annoy you by pointing out the delicious, delicious irony. The other part hated you because you were complacent.

what the hell have boats got to do with riding a motorbike???

Driftster
Aug 21, 2008, 8:55 AM
it's a metaphore...for....uhh..

You know what i can't even save that one..that was pretty bad.

!ChEeKy GiRl!
Aug 21, 2008, 10:39 AM
They say bad things happen in threes, my crash, frewin's crash, and now yours....hopefully we've had all the crashes we're ever gonna have now!

Heretic
Aug 21, 2008, 10:56 AM
glad you are OK, skyline/fluffybutt (Just had to throw that in there:D).
I have been down a few times, and can attest to it hurting. I even have the "road rash" scars to prove it.
Most of the general motoring population will never understand the dangers a motorcyclist faces on the road. Don't worry about them. I hope you learned something with this accident. If the road conditions are not optimum, stay off the front brake. You can control a rear wheel sliding. If the front slides, it becomes painful

For the bike.......Wedge the front tire in a corner, or somewhere it cannot turn. Loosen the lower tripple tree, and turn the handle bars to true your front end back up. This may take a little muscle, but if your tubes are not bent, this will work

miniwisejosh
Aug 21, 2008, 11:12 AM
Woah! I take a break from SCF, and all that happens. I'm really sorry to hear about evryone's traffic incident.

Is that your first bike accident skyline luva? I've always heard from experienced bikers that everyone comes off their bike eventually regardless of skill, caution, and attentiveness. I'm starting to see what they mean...

Cheeky, how's your neck doing? Did you have to wear a brace, or did the doctor let your body heal itself? I hope you find a new car soon:).

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 11:14 AM
Thanks heretic ill give that a shot in a min. As for the braking issue, im always very gently on the front brake in bad conditions but because it all happened so fast my instant reaction was to grab for the brake.

Yes this was my first biking accident, has kinda put me off a little if im honest.

And cheeky i only just heard about your accident, hope your ok. If you need the number of a really good accident solicitor let me know :)

Ravenous
Aug 21, 2008, 11:25 AM
Yes this was my first biking accident, has kinda put me off a little if im honest.


That's like saying "its my first bout of chlamydia I don't want to have sex again"

Man up, you nancy! Get the cream and get back in there!

Heretic
Aug 21, 2008, 12:02 PM
Thanks heretic ill give that a shot in a min. As for the braking issue, im always very gently on the front brake in bad conditions but because it all happened so fast my instant reaction was to grab for the brake.


Then loosen the front brake enough that the wheel will not lock up.
I rode triumphs with the front brake just a little loose for years. I do have duel discs on the front of my current bike, but I have been riding for 22 years. I have gotten the feel of the front brake;)

Car_buff
Aug 21, 2008, 12:05 PM
They say bad things happen in threes, my crash, frewin's crash, and now yours....hopefully we've had all the crashes we're ever gonna have now!

wise words cheeky, and hopefully true. I've got a flight on tuesday, and I'd rather not be the first member to get in an airplane accident.

one things for sure, it won't be MY fault.

lol, skyline, I'm just poking fun, i do not believe it was your fault. although maybe you could have accelerated if no one was in front of you, which i assume there probably was.

and of course I'll take cheeky's word that it wasn't her fault.

frewin not so much, cause it was his fault, and he admits it. he just likes to try an displace blame when he should man up and take it all him self

so skyline, whats the insurance company saying?

bossesjoe
Aug 21, 2008, 12:07 PM
Sorry Fluffy, that's a rough hit. The most important thing is that you're fine, of course.

As they say about bikes: it's not if you fall, it's when.

On a slightly off topic note; let's try to easier on people who have crashed their cars. It's hard enough to lose your car, and deal with the complications that come with it. I anyone who will fess up to doing so is pretty brave on top of that. It would be bad if people, being afraid to admit they wrecked, did not share these things because they help serve as reminders and lessons for everyone.

!ChEeKy GiRl!
Aug 21, 2008, 12:10 PM
Cheeky, how's your neck doing? Did you have to wear a brace, or did the doctor let your body heal itself? I hope you find a new car soon:).
My neck still aches...loads...no braces though! I have to go to physiotherapy though...

And cheeky i only just heard about your accident, hope your ok. If you need the number of a really good accident solicitor let me know :)
Really, it happened over a month ago now, yeah I'm as good as you can be after a Corsa flies into you at 45mph!
Yeah..my solicitors on it thanks :D

That's like saying "its my first bout of chlamydia I don't want to have sex again"

Man up, you nancy! Get the cream and get back in there!
HAHAHAHA..couldn't help laughing right theree

wise words cheeky, and hopefully true. I've got a flight on tuesday, and I'd rather not be the first member to get in an airplane accident.

one things for sure, it won't be MY fault.

lol, skyline, I'm just poking fun, i do not believe it was your fault. although maybe you could have accelerated if no one was in front of you, which i assume there probably was.

and of course I'll take cheeky's word that it wasn't her fault.

frewin not so much, cause it was his fault, and he admits it. he just likes to try an displace blame when he should man up and take it all him self

so skyline, whats the insurance company saying?

Damn right it wasn't my fault. I might even have to go to court to testify against the other dudes dangerous driving!

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 12:15 PM
That's like saying "its my first bout of chlamydia I don't want to have sex again"

Man up, you nancy! Get the cream and get back in there!

lol.

good point i suppose, i just sorted the forks out and have been out on it for a little while.

wise words cheeky, and hopefully true. I've got a flight on tuesday, and I'd rather not be the first member to get in an airplane accident.

one things for sure, it won't be MY fault.

lol, skyline, I'm just poking fun, i do not believe it was your fault. although maybe you could have accelerated if no one was in front of you, which i assume there probably was.

and of course I'll take cheeky's word that it wasn't her fault.

frewin not so much, cause it was his fault, and he admits it. he just likes to try an displace blame when he should man up and take it all him self

so skyline, whats the insurance company saying?

Insurance company dont know and dont really need to, the bike only has very minor cosmetic damage and i dont know who the guy was who pulled out infront of me so no need to get insurance involved, i only have 3rd party fire and theft cover which means my insurance wont pay out for my bike in an accident only the other party.

Sorry Fluffy, that's a rough hit. The most important thing is that you're fine, of course.

As they say about bikes: it's not if you fall, it's when.

On a slightly off topic note; let's try to easier on people who have crashed their cars. It's hard enough to lose your car, and deal with the complications that come with it. I anyone who will fess up to doing so is pretty brave on top of that. It would be bad if people, being afraid to admit they wrecked, did not share these things because they help serve as reminders and lessons for everyone.

Very true although in some occasions if the person was being seriously idiotic or racing at the time i say they deserve it.
Also people take not when i got the full story from frewin i did make a public apology. :eek:

Roadkill
Aug 21, 2008, 12:32 PM
All that bike talk makes me miss my moped. :p It's in the shop, lousy rear wheel. The spokes came loose one of them even pushed trough and put a hole in my tyre. I was driving home at 2km/h with my rear wheel going from left to right on a flat. :p Had to be a funny sight.

Car_buff
Aug 21, 2008, 12:47 PM
what, you didnt get his plates dude? or someone else? weren't there POLICE right there?

seems fishy to me

miniwisejosh
Aug 21, 2008, 1:04 PM
My neck still aches...loads...no braces though! I have to go to physiotherapy though...
I'm sorry to hear that. I was hoping your whiplash was just a minor neck/shoulder muscle sprain that would cure itself in a couple weeks. Therapy is good stuff though. It worked miracles in helping my mom recover from our crash a few years ago. You'll be all healed up and pain-free soon, then it will just be an unpleasant memory...

frewin1987
Aug 21, 2008, 1:15 PM
thats what happens when you ride like a ****










































annoying, isn't it?

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 1:18 PM
what, you didnt get his plates dude? or someone else? weren't there POLICE right there?

seems fishy to me

police were dealing with a car that was on its roof and didnt see what happened till i was on the floor. about 30min before i got there a car understeered into a barrier and rolled over thats why police were there.
When i told them what happened they asked if i had the plates but i was on the floor and could barely move.

thats what happens when you ride like a ****

First of all as i explained i was not riding like a **** i was cut up and did what i could to avoid hitting him, secondly once you told the full story i apologised to you.

Heretic
Aug 21, 2008, 1:19 PM
thats what happens when you ride like a ****










































annoying, isn't it?

Yeah....it annoys ME that you come on to this thread just trying to cause problems.....Now grow up

frewin1987
Aug 21, 2008, 1:22 PM
^ wahoo, but it's okay for skyline to post the exact same thing in my thread, he's the one that gets away with it (as always). unwarned, never mind post deleted.

favouritism FTW!!!!!!!

her fault. frewin not so much, cause it was his fault, and he admits it. he just likes to try an displace blame when he should man up and take it all him self

nonono, you've got me all wrong.

of course it was my fault, it was all my fault, but what i've been trying to say is i could do nothing about it and have took that same corner the same way hundreds of times with nothing like that happening.

there's no arguing that it wasn't my fault, because it obviously was..... who the hell else controls the car apart from me?! :|

Car_buff
Aug 21, 2008, 1:27 PM
just because it never happened before doesn't mean it's not possible.

there's two ways this works. either you have taken that turn too fast for hundreds of times and this time it bit you in the ass

or for hundreds of times you've taken it at a good speed, and this one was a bit faster, and bit you in the ass.

obviously the second one would be preferable, but to everyone on this site it sounds quite alot more like the first.

personally, driving a vehicle for me is an intimate experience, if i'm behind the wheel I feel everything. but any time I'm not, then I don't know ****. and I wasn't even in the same country as you, so I'm not about to criticize you. just saying from what i've read it doesn't sound like you drive as safely as you could.

frewin1987
Aug 21, 2008, 1:31 PM
^ i know, i know.

but if it'd taken it fast way too many times before, surely it would have chucked me off much sooner than 8 months down the line?! and i've never even felt a hint of understeer before, never mind an absolutely stupid amount of it - i was basically going in a straight line, no word of a lie.....

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 1:31 PM
Frewin the impression i got from your thread was that you hit the barrier and rolled it becasue you were driving like an ass and without trying to generalise like most people your age do. Once the full story was there i apologised and i actually felt for you becasue im sure its harsh splashing out on a car and seeing it destroyed months later. I admit that the accident i had could have been avoided by somebody with heretics experience, but i have had my licence for 2 months. I did what came naturally to me and on any other road i would have been fine. but the road was a complete mess it was like an ice rink, hence the focus on its roof 50ft away.

Heretic
Aug 21, 2008, 1:32 PM
^ wahoo, but it's okay for skyline to post the exact same thing in my thread, he's the one that gets away with it (as always). unwarned, never mind post deleted.

favouritism FTW!!!!!!!



nonono, you've got me all wrong.

of course it was my fault, it was all my fault, but what i've been trying to say is i could do nothing about it and have took that same corner the same way hundreds of times with nothing like that happening.

there's no arguing that it wasn't my fault, because it obviously was..... who the hell else controls the car apart from me?! :|

So what are you, his mother or some self appointed F-wit in charge of chastising everyone who you think needs to be punished....
he did something you did not like, so like a three year old, you are justified in saying anything you want?.......
Who gave you that authority? If it was unacceptable, it is a MOD'S JOB to take care of it.....NOT YOURS. This was just some juvenile attempt at revenge. This is exactly the kind of immature stunt that lessens our faith in your truthfulness, and makes us believe that YOU really were at fault in your accident, and were driving like an immature fool

frewin1987
Aug 21, 2008, 1:33 PM
ok then i see, i apologise too. shame about you and your bike, but as has been said to me about my accident, at least you're still okay and you're still here to tell the tale, yeah?

edit: by the way, i'd had that car for three and a half weeks, not months!

edit 2: no, heretic, i just felt like doing what he did to me - prejudging - and seeing how he liked it. i don't honestly believe that he was pissing about...

and by the way, believe what you want about my accident; i don't think i could care less :confused:.... i came on here to tell people what had happened, not for people to try and blame me for this and that.

Heretic
Aug 21, 2008, 1:50 PM
edit 2: no, heretic, i just felt like doing what he did to me - prejudging - and seeing how he liked it. i don't honestly believe that he was pissing about...


So once again....WHO PUT YOU IN CHARGE OF THIS?

What I see is an an excuse to justify revenge. You are also being a hypocrite.......You don't like others what others say, so you will say something hurtful to them......What is the difference?....The bottom line is that you did EXACTLY what you critiscized others for. The only difference was that you used a lame ass excuse to justify it

frewin1987
Aug 21, 2008, 1:52 PM
^ no, no... i admit it! what i did then was be an arsehole.....

but being one of those is what i do best at times :) i'm an irritating little sh*t and proud ;)

clutch
Aug 21, 2008, 3:02 PM
Glad to hear you are fine fluffster. Shame about the bike, but at least it wasn't a complete write off, I think it looks really sharp. I can understand what went on, giant car pops in front of you, of course your first instinct would be BRAKE!!! AAAHHHHH! I am sure you learned from this accident that in the future you will remain "calmer" and possibly avoid such a situation with full rear brake and front modulation. (But sometimes its unavoidable)

This case should also teach the rest of us to respect a biker's space. Hopefully by having a member having to go through this will give us an insight as what they have to go through. So folks, don't follow too close, don't cross in front of them just because you think they can avoid you on a 2 wheeled vehicle, and don't brake at the last moment when in front of them.


Hope you stay accident free in the future man.

Roadkill
Aug 21, 2008, 3:10 PM
You should have hit the car just to teach him a lesson. :p

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 3:23 PM
But then the accident would be deemed to be my fault, In the uk if you rear end anybody no matter what the situation its your fault, even if somebody hits you and you go into the person infornt of you its your fault for following too closely.

Car_buff
Aug 21, 2008, 4:40 PM
But then the accident would be deemed to be my fault, In the uk if you rear end anybody no matter what the situation its your fault, even if somebody hits you and you go into the person infornt of you its your fault for following too closely.

yeah, but didnt they hit YOU?

bossesjoe
Aug 21, 2008, 4:52 PM
This forum doesn't operate on the eye for an eye principle, if you see something you don't like just use the "report post" button. Heretic is right, just let things go, because it's even worse if you know it's wrong but intentionally antagonize somebody for revenge.

SRT expert
Aug 21, 2008, 5:10 PM
Sorry to hear about that Fluff. I hope you feel better, just relax a bit.

@ Frewin and TBR. I'm ashamed of you to! Come on. Do you really read. You just want to snap back at the man about that post in Frewin's thread. That isn't right, you know? He actually apologized for his post Frewin, but you want to act like an a-hole towards him. TBR, I have really been watching you and I din't know there is something I just don't like about you... I just don't know why? Oh, and bte God don't like ugly... Grow the **** up both of you.

gm man
Aug 21, 2008, 5:12 PM
what happened to the asshat that cut you off. Did the cops chase him.

hope you feel better

astonmartin138
Aug 21, 2008, 5:15 PM
Sorry to hear about that Fluff. I hope you feel better, just relax a bit.

@ Frewin and TBR. I'm ashamed of you to! Come on. Do you really read. You just want to snap back at the man about that post in Frewin's thread. That isn't right, you know? He actually apologized for his post Frewin, but you want to act like an a-hole towards him. TBR, I have really been watching you and I din't know there is something I just don't like about you... I just don't know why? Oh, and bte God don't like ugly... Grow the **** up both of you.

It is one thing to try and put a situation right, but quite another to attempt to do so when it has already been resolved...

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 5:40 PM
yeah, but didnt they hit YOU?

Im not sure weather you are referring to the quote or the accident but just to clarify, the other driver today never hit me, he braked heavily infront of me after cutting me up (swerving infront of me).

As for what you quoted, if you are stuck in traffic and somebody hits you from behind doing 30mph and that forces you to hit the person infront of you, in nearly all circumstances you would be at fault for hitting the guy infront of you for stopping too closely and not leaving enough gap "just incase". The person who rear ended you is at fault for you, and you are at fault for hitting the car infront.

And i agree 110% with clutch's post, hopefully after reading that some people might be a little more considerate when on the road.

Godzilla:PetroLHeaD
Aug 21, 2008, 6:06 PM
Glad to hear you're fine Fluffyhead :). Hope you get better soon mate. I was seriously considering getting a motorbike license within the coming month or so, however, your accident made me think more seriously about it. I know it wasn't a tough crash but apparently, being a biker means paying attention 200%, like my friend ( who uses his Honda CBR as a daily driver) always tells me.

skyline_luva19
Aug 21, 2008, 6:12 PM
There is so much more to think about and look for as a biker, everything on the road affects the way the bike handles, everything from bitchumen to road markings make a difference.
Riding a bike in good conditions is fantastic and gives me such as buzz but when the roads are wet its terrible.

SRT expert
Aug 21, 2008, 7:20 PM
It is one thing to try and put a situation right, but quite another to attempt to do so when it has already been resolved...

I don't have as much free time anymore. I have a lot... Of homework to do. Its not hard it just builds up very quickly... I just read through the thread today.

:P

frewin1987
Aug 21, 2008, 7:29 PM
yeah it's alright now we made up, duh!! :)
bumlicker

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Aug 21, 2008, 7:54 PM
But then the accident would be deemed to be my fault, In the uk if you rear end anybody no matter what the situation its your fault, even if somebody hits you and you go into the person infornt of you its your fault for following too closely.
But wouldn't you be able to argue it out by stating he was driving very dangerously (cut you off in the rain) under poor conditions.

Heretic
Aug 21, 2008, 8:03 PM
There is so much more to think about and look for as a biker, everything on the road affects the way the bike handles, everything from bitchumen to road markings make a difference.
Riding a bike in good conditions is fantastic and gives me such as buzz but when the roads are wet its terrible.

It becomes easier with experience. After a few years, you do not even realize that you have altered your riding, when traction becomes an issue. Then as you graduate to larger bikes, they are not effected by small changes in the road, nearly as much
it is kind of the same as how nervous you were when you started driving....then with practice it becomes second nature

I can literally set the cruise control, and comfortably cross my arms across my chest while doing 80mph, on the freeway. you will leanr this, if you stick with riding...it just takes time;)

C.A.R.
Aug 22, 2008, 7:50 AM
As for what you quoted, if you are stuck in traffic and somebody hits you from behind doing 30mph and that forces you to hit the person infront of you, in nearly all circumstances you would be at fault for hitting the guy infront of you for stopping too closely and not leaving enough gap "just incase". The person who rear ended you is at fault for you, and you are at fault for hitting the car infront.


Wrong.

Where the hell did you read that?

The car at fault is always the one at the back, who's insurance company will probably try to cover all costs before anything even goes to court, in order to avoid expensive fees.

I know this because of a recent case where this happened.

Chris.

SRT expert
Aug 22, 2008, 5:29 PM
yeah it's alright now we made up, duh!! :)
bumlicker

Think I wouldn't catch that, eh?:D
Its all gravy now. Now I can laugh!

Car=Blaine
Aug 22, 2008, 8:06 PM
Sorry to hear about the accident .

It seems that no matter the precautions taken by bikers to avoid hazards, drive safely, etc., they often get wrongly accused as being the wrong-doers when really those in the larger vehicles simply don't respect the bikes enough. A good example of the lack of respect I'm talking about can be seen in this incident.

Heretic
Aug 22, 2008, 8:37 PM
I had someone in a big SUV try to merge into my lane today. I do not know if they did not see me, or did not look. I had a 3/4 ton chevy pickup behind me, and a semi truck in front of me......
I grabbed a fist full, and shot around the front of the SUV. We literally traded lanes. As he merged into mine, I shot around the front of him, into his, barely missing the truck in front of me.......Things like that do not normally excite me, but that was just a little too close

Godzilla:PetroLHeaD
Aug 22, 2008, 8:56 PM
Woah! That was really close! I think I'm right in saying that a biker with not much experience most probably wouldn't pull that one off.

Last night I was with my cousin in his car, and there was this crazy teenager on a dirt bike snaking through. He was right behind us with his lights off! We wouldn't have noticed him if it wasn't for him revving the thing. He overtakes us and the car in front of us was just about to change its lane. It was inches away from knocking him off the bike, but he moved to the side. It was so close, I even had my "OHH SH**!!!" facial expression on!

hyphon12
Aug 24, 2008, 10:42 AM
Sorry to hear about the incident fluffy.

Sounds like it could easily been worse.
Hope your leg recovers OK, so how bad is the damage? repairable?
I just hate people like that, they only expect to see a car and not a bike, the number of times I've looked once then looked a second time there has been a bike, and the roads I commute on aren't the easiest to notice, I have only one thing against bikers and that's when they lean onto my side of the road, I've nearly hit a biker doing that, well more like him nearly leaning into my car. Other than that I respect bikers, I plan to be one one day :p.

skyline_luva19
Aug 24, 2008, 12:31 PM
The bike is mechanichally fine and the forks are sorted (Thanks heretic) but i still have scuffs on mud guard and headlight.... nothing major.

Heretic
Aug 24, 2008, 12:40 PM
glad to hear that:cool: