hey people

has anyone here driven an E-gear gallardo before? I think Evo-power and driftster drove gallardos, right? well, I need help from anyone who has driven that car or any other car with a pedal shift transmission.

If I'm lucky enough, in a couple of months or less, I'll be renting a gallardo for one day for a very special occasion. I've only driven automatic transmission cars, and my car has the steptronic +/- thing which I do use sometimes. I have no experience in gear shifting whatsoever. Will I have too much trouble figuring out how to drive a gallardo properly?

if you guys think it needs practice, I might save up and rent it for 2 days. 1st day to practice and pick up chicks, and the next day for the occasion. but if you guys have reasons to convince me it's a bad idea, I'll just rent a 997 turbo. It'll do.

oh and the special occasion isn't a race or anything like that. I just have to drive it around normally without killing anyone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrSIQ1JZ55E&feature=related

Hope that helps. Basically, just the pedals and that's it. If it's when to shift and stuff like that. I don't really know. You should ofcourse get used to the car, though.

I'm sure it's fairly straight forward, a bit like the system on PlayStations, except here you're in real life.

The Gallardo starts to make a howl over approx. 3,500rpm, so you'll want to change gear before that if you're just cruising. Downshifting should come naturally, but remember it's better to (accidentally) be in very low RPMs than very high RPMs.

You're going to break the car.

^lol, also a possibility.

Ask the rental agency how to deal with it when you're a beginner ;).

You're going to break the car.

*sniff sniff* do I smell jealousy?

If an old lady can drive it, I'm sure I can as well. and I just realized I'm gonna be learning real manual on a mustang starting today. so by the time I rent the Lambo, a semi-auto shouldn't be a problem.

hopefully, I will rent it. and when I do, I will have good evidence to show you all.

I'm sure it's fairly straight forward, a bit like the system on PlayStations, except here you're in real life.

The Gallardo starts to make a howl over approx. 3,500rpm, so you'll want to change gear before that if you're just cruising. Downshifting should come naturally, but remember it's better to (accidentally) be in very low RPMs than very high RPMs.

do you mean it'll happen automatically? like I don't have to shift down to decelerate?

I can only help with a F430 paddleshift or those fitted to the Spec B Subaru's.
For the performance based cars its slightly smoother if you lift off the throttle on the upshifts otherwise its rather jerky (I didn't enjoy the F430 g'box experience). For the Subaru though you can keep your foot planted to the floor, it will still change up. As for downshifts the computer should take care of most of that for you, i'm sure the company will give you a basic brief of how to operate the car anyway, as its in their interest for you not to damage it!

Basically just experiment on a non-busy part of the road until you feel comfortable, there is no need to be 100% on throttle, then off, then 100% on throttle, smooth throttle usage will probably be the cure to any uncomfortable driving.

I havent experienced the E-Gear and its not something I particuarly want to, proper gearboxes are the only things that still interest me for sheer driving pleasure, even if the E-gear can change gear in a millionth a second

But maybe that helped, as I said I found the F430 very jerky until you're more used to it, so just take it easy really. At least you can't stall it :p

do you mean it'll happen automatically? like I don't have to shift down to decelerate?

On our Tiptronic Audi, it does do it automatically if you leave it until too late.

But I'm not sure the E-gear will, and besides, it's not supposed to, you're the one driving, you downshift.

Surely you know the basics of how gears work ?!?! Go faster - upshift, slow down - downshift!

*sniff sniff* do I smell jealousy?

If an old lady can drive it, I'm sure I can as well. and I just realized I'm gonna be learning real manual on a mustang starting today. so by the time I rent the Lambo, a semi-auto shouldn't be a problem.

hopefully, I will rent it. and when I do, I will have good evidence to show you all.


What you smell is the acrid stench of your own brain's effluence seeping from your ears. Assuming you have a brain.

If you can "save up" to "hopefully" rent a Lambo for a day, I'm sure I would have no problem doing the same. In fact, I'd probably have less of a problem because by the quality of your posts I'd say your mental age is closer to your shoe size than it is to the legal driving age.

If you can't handle the paddle shift in an auto Lambo, renting a 997 turbo "instead" would be pointless. Both cars are meant to come with a clutch, and only poseurs would select one otherwise.

And if by "picking up chicks" you mean being ridiculed, go for it. Get footage.

What you smell is the acrid stench of your own brain's effluence seeping from your ears. Assuming you have a brain.

If you can "save up" to "hopefully" rent a Lambo for a day, I'm sure I would have no problem doing the same. In fact, I'd probably have less of a problem because by the quality of your posts I'd say your mental age is closer to your shoe size than it is to the legal driving age.

If you can't handle the paddle shift in an auto Lambo, renting a 997 turbo "instead" would be pointless. Both cars are meant to come with a clutch, and only poseurs would select one otherwise.

And if by "picking up chicks" you mean being ridiculed, go for it. Get footage.


1st of all, I'm not renting it to show off or to drive fast, I'm renting it for a very different reason that you wouldn't understand. 2nd of all, where I live my shoe size is 42, so thanks .

3rd, I don't give a rat's ass about your rating of my posts. I'm here to enjoy myself.

so either behave yourself or leave me alone. I have far more important things to worry about than my "post quality" or anyone else's.
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I don't think it will downshift itself. Full-Auto cars will, as they just give you the most torque and power as possible when you step on the accelerator harder when in low revs at high gears and the computer says you don't need that extra gear and shifts down and stuff. That's kicking down, our BMW doesn't do it unless its in auto mode, in tip-tronic, it doesnt happen.

at first practice on cheaper cars. Borrow them from your friends or something, that will save you money.

1st of all, I'm not renting it to show off or to drive fast, I'm renting it for a very different reason that you wouldn't understand. 2nd of all, where I live my shoe size is 42, so thanks f*ck tard.

1st of all, whatever it is, you're kidding yourself. 2nd of all, where you live everyone must have really small feet, it's the best explanation for using a scale that's so obviously geared toward optimism.

3rd, I don't give a rat's ass about your rating of my posts. I'm here to enjoy myself, not to impress your mom.

Between swearing at me and your pointless, childish mention of my mother, you just convinced the whole forum that you're a loser.

so either behave yourself or leave me the *** alone you worthless sack of sh*t cuz I don't have time for losers like you so desperate about proving themselves on a an internet forum. I have far more important things to worry about than my "post quality" or anyone else's.

and if ur trying to have me banned by getting on my nerves, then I hope u'll be really proud if it happens cause I doubt you've got anything better to do with ur life.

For someone who cares so little you're really quick to get offended over the internet.

You have my thanks, you've just owned yourself after getting fired up after a single, one sentence post.

at first practice on cheaper cars. Borrow them from your friends or something, that will save you money.

I was just about to say something very similar i.e. practice how to shift gears on a cheaper manual first. Although I think that 90% of Gallardos come with a paddle-shift gearbox. Therefore, you will do well to find one to rent with a 'proper' manual.

I don't think the e-gear system will be very difficult to learn to manage. I think you can probably just leave in automatic if that's what you want to do. There is no clutch pedal to worry about and everything is done for you.

P.S: Don't worry about Rav too much. He can seem to be a bit hostile, but I don't think he is actually as bad as he may seem. He is a bit of an acquired taste as I have said before.

Get the insurance on the car. You know, in case you start the radio on fire or something worse...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LU3olUGyeTo

Amjams, clean the sand out of your vag & harden the firetruck up. If you can't handle reading a reply from Rav cause it makes you cry then you need to get rid of your mancans.

Why the hostility? Why feel the need to lower yourself to RvR's level?

If you do get to drive this car, & I really hope you don't cause I really think you're not experienced enough to even handle such an automobile, Please drive carefully & try not to attempt to look anything other than composed cause I've seen what cars like this do to people like you.

1st of all, whatever it is, you're kidding yourself. 2nd of all, where you live everyone must have really small feet, it's the best explanation for using a scale that's so obviously geared toward optimism.


It's called the European system. Have you been living in a hole?
and I don't care what you or anyone else thinks, I just hate to be bothered and picked on for something so silly. "post quality"? could you be any more naive? I don't know about you, but some members here are real people with real lives, they don't "post" for a living. when I come around here, I couldn't use any more negativity in my life, cause normally I'd have enough of it already. so please leave me alone. and if my posts bother you so much, skip them and spare me your immature comments.



Amjams, clean the sand out of your vag & harden the firetruck up. If you can't handle reading a reply from Rav cause it makes you cry then you need to get rid of your mancans.

Why the hostility? Why feel the need to lower yourself to RvR's level?

If you do get to drive this car, & I really hope you don't cause I really think you're not experienced enough to even handle such an automobile, Please drive carefully & try not to attempt to look anything other than composed cause I've seen what cars like this do to people like you.


would you take kindly to some forum guy saying that u hav no brain for no reason if you were having a "depression"? ha? what makes you think I'm not "depressed" myself and trying to chill out over here? maybe I am

dude, just leave me alone and don't let it get personal. but needless to say, we all have problems.

if you or anyone feels like you really have to criticize my posts, do it properly. don't just attack me and say well hey, u suck you can't rent a Lamborghini. you know who else doesn't know jack **** about cars? CEO's of car companies. so no big deal, alright. you don't need to get an itch up ur vag everytime someone isn't superior in car specs and mechanics. I personally know my limits, I never contribute in a conversation that's out of my league and never claim to know something that I don't. so if you want me out, make a poll or something, but don't bother me like little kids.

^^^ Post quality is what people like you are lacking right now. Don't get me wrong...you're just as welcome here as anyone else but considering your posts are usually one sentence replies with no substantial info on the selected topic, it's time to stop.

And as for flaming senior members, Don't.

Now, explain what you're going to be using this car for. That'd be a good start.

1st of all, I'm not renting it to show off or to drive fast, I'm renting it for a very different reason that you wouldn't understand. 2nd of all, where I live my shoe size is 42, so thanks .

3rd, I don't give a rat's ass about your rating of my posts. I'm here to enjoy myself.

so either behave yourself or leave me alone. I have far more important things to worry about than my "post quality" or anyone else's.
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As of right now, you DO NOT have far better things to do, on here, than worry about post quality.....If your posts do not improve, I will delete them, and nobody will have to be bothered with low post quality then

As of right now, you DO NOT have far better things to do, on here, than worry about post quality.....If your posts do not improve, I will delete them, and nobody will have to be bothered with low post quality then

dude, I personally don't know what makes a post good in your perspective, but as far as I can remember I almost only post in threads that don't require much analysis and I skip the ones that do. if that's not good enough for you, I'd rather not post at all, cause frankly, I don't wanna have to worry about a thing around here. I don't use the internet to "worry"

I hope everyone's happy.

Back on topic: What exactly is your reason for renting such an extravagent car?

dude, I personally don't know what makes a post good in your perspective, but as far as I can remember I almost only post in threads that don't require much analysis and I skip the ones that do. if that's not good enough for you, I'd rather not post at all, cause frankly, I don't wanna have to worry about a thing around here. I don't use the internet to "worry"

I hope everyone's happy.

I am very happy.


Where do you plan on renting this Lamborghini from? Because I can only think of a very select few who "rent" 6 figure supercars to noobs like us. On another note, I clearly doubt that they would just toss you the keys and tell you to knock yourself out. They would probably spend a good half hour to an hour explaining the do's and don'ts with that car.

Back on topic: What exactly is your reason for renting such an extravagent car?

He's gonna pick up some girl :D jk

Well, driving a manual isn't really hard, you just have to get used to it, know when to shift, know how to shift :p
And also what you have to learn is how not to kill anyone :p

Umm... am I the only one here who thinks that learning to drive a traditional manual will have no help on driving the E-Gear? The E-Gear has no clutch pedal, you just pull the paddle towards you to change up a gear... Its simple, when the revs get higher like in any car, in an automatic it changes it for you, all you need to do is just pull that paddle towards you and hey-presto! you're in the next gear :eek:

And I think they do change down gears for you if you approach a junction in 6th, it would probably reduce to 2nd or 3rd although you should really do it yourself.

Plus also be careful not to burn out the clutch on the semi-auto car, they have a tendancy to do that especially at low speeds and turning round. Unlike a manual where you control it and an auto where it has a plate, the semi-auto's of the performance car world use a clutch and it will destroy it fast if you are turning 3-point turns or lots of stop-start traffic (especially uphill)... Just a word of warning ;)

Where do you plan on renting this Lamborghini from? Because I can only think of a very select few who "rent" 6 figure supercars to noobs like us. On another note, I clearly doubt that they would just toss you the keys and tell you to knock yourself out. They would probably spend a good half hour to an hour explaining the do's and don'ts with that car.

I'm from Kuwait. Gallardos and F430's are available for rent.

Umm... am I the only one here who thinks that learning to drive a traditional manual will have no help on driving the E-Gear?

I think it would help me understand the theory behind gear shifting, and help me get the feeling of when I have to change gear. and I have someone to teach me in his mustang, so I might as well learn.

I first learned when to change gears in Gran Turismo when I was like 10 or something, try the game;)

I first learned when to change gears in Gran Turismo when I was like 10 or something, try the game;)

Actually, thats a pretty good idea. Seriously, the principle is the same. To drive an E-gear system, its very similar to driving any other paddle shift box. Up when your going faster, Down when your going slower. If you have the transmission in sport mode, it will not change down for you in an E-gear system. I've never driven a Gallardo, but I have driven a AM DB9 and AM V8 with paddle boxes. Very easy to use, just match the rev's to the gear, you cannot lock the rear wheels either with a paddle-box.

But, a few questions.

For the third time, what are you renting this Lamborghini for, it will help us to help you.

Forgive me, if I'm wrong, but your 19 years old, correct? Are you sure they will let you drive this car? Seriously? In the UK, I couldn't drive a car like that until I was 21, unless I owned it. Scoobiekid will back me up on that one. The insurance for this company to let u drive it must be hitting the roof you they let you.

Anyway, when/if you drive the car, just take it easy and gently. Dont focus everything on the gear bit, I'd put it into Auto mode and worry about driving it first, get used to the controls and speed.

Post some pics when/if you do and when exactly is this happening?

Damn, I forgot the E-Gear was a paddle-shift box

Just do as SubaruKid says, to up-shift pull it towards you, to downshift push it away from you

And be careful with that car, it has a lot of power if you haven't driven one yet
500bhp ain't a joke

Forgive me, if I'm wrong, but your 19 years old, correct? Are you sure they will let you drive this car? Seriously? In the UK, I couldn't drive a car like that until I was 21, unless I owned it. Scoobiekid will back me up on that one. The insurance for this company to let u drive it must be hitting the roof you they let you.

You'll be lucky to find a company that allows it under 25 and you have to be a member of the club, like P1 or SuperCarClub or Ecurie etc etc. I'm sure some out there will hire things like Astons and 911's to 21+ but majority is 25+ for insurance rating.
As you say, there is definately none that will allow it younger than 21 here!

But as he says, he is in Kuwait, where rules will be different i'm sure! It is a different type of lifestyle there and culture so might not be so difficult for younger people to hire these cars if they have money.

Forgive me, if I'm wrong, but your 19 years old, correct? Are you sure they will let you drive this car? Seriously? In the UK, I couldn't drive a car like that until I was 21, unless I owned it. Scoobiekid will back me up on that one. The insurance for this company to let u drive it must be hitting the roof you they let you.


that's a 100% correct, same goes here. I have to get someone over 21 to rent it for me. I could get my mom or dad to do it, it's pretty simple. they agreed already. and it's not illegal or anything. they don't care who's gonna drive, just who's gonna take responsibility if anything happens, and that person has to be 21+.

Bro, The Gallardo does have a huge "A" button that changes it to Auto mode and lets it do the shifting .

but if you want to use the paddle shifts start from standstill, lift the right paddle one time to move to 1st then press the A button, elsewhere, you can keep driving it in the paddle shifting sense (2-3-4-5-6). to shift it to reverse, stop the car, hold both paddles (left and right)to change it into neutral, then to the left of the steering wheel I think theres a small button with R on it .

Get the insurance on the car. You know, in case you start the radio on fire or something worse...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LU3olUGyeTo

Good video :D

You'll be lucky to find a company that allows it under 25 and you have to be a member of the club, like P1 or SuperCarClub or Ecurie etc etc. I'm sure some out there will hire things like Astons and 911's to 21+ but majority is 25+ for insurance rating.
As you say, there is definately none that will allow it younger than 21 here!

But as he says, he is in Kuwait, where rules will be different i'm sure! It is a different type of lifestyle there and culture so might not be so difficult for younger people to hire these cars if they have money.
You guys are lucky. When I was in Las Vegas about 5 years ago, I was 21. I had to search high and low for an agency that would rent me a run-of-the-mill Saturn. In the States, for the most part, you need to be 25 to rent any kind of car, period.

You guys are lucky. When I was in Las Vegas about 5 years ago, I was 21. I had to search high and low for an agency that would rent me a run-of-the-mill Saturn. In the States, for the most part, you need to be 25 to rent any kind of car, period.

I can rent a car at 21 in Florida I discovered, but in the UK you can hire a normal car pretty much from the day you pass your test, although most request that you are 18+.
BUT anything half decent is 21+ !

Over here, in one of the agencies I looked up, you need to be 31 to drive an LP640 or F430 !

that's a 100% correct, same goes here. I have to get someone over 21 to rent it for me. I could get my mom or dad to do it, it's pretty simple. they agreed already. and it's not illegal or anything. they don't care who's gonna drive, just who's gonna take responsibility if anything happens, and that person has to be 21+.

What are you 'renting' this car for? Are you going to say or shall we keep on with this banter?

You say that we won't understand what the reason is which I find highly doubtful. Well...elaborate.

Why do you need to learn how to shift? It might be clutchless manual, but its still an automatic in function, for the most part. Leave it in auto. You'll only impress dumb chics by shifting an auto.

What are you 'renting' this car for? Are you going to say or shall we keep on with this banter?

You say that we won't understand what the reason is which I find highly doubtful. Well...elaborate.

my sister's wedding..

and I don't know how to explain any further why I need an exotic car for my sister's wedding, but I really do. just as much as the married couple needs to rent a Limo. It's some sort of tradition over here.

That's actually quite nice. Weddings are special & a car such as this one is perfect for a special day.

Like all of us have stated...be bloody careful & make sure you don't crash it or do anything stupid.

Are you taking your sister in the car to the ceremony or just driving it yourself to the event?

If you can, take some photos.

Amjams, from my knowledge it is a fairly simple system. It has an Upshift paddle, a downshift paddle, a button for Auto, and a button for Reverse. Like S tune said, pull right paddle for 1st, then Press auto button. That will get you a nice easy start and will let you shift up and down with paddles.

First of all, post lots of pics. And second of all, please get a good color for the Lambo, yellow not being one of them. Its too stereotypical. Get green or black or something. Have fun with it but dont be brash and ignorand of the car's power and handling. It will be wonderful if you respect it for the machine it is.

While I have no personally driven a Gallardo, I have rode in one. It has the same setup for gear changing that you'll find in pretty much any paddle shifting car.

My advice, before you F up the gallardo, see if you can test drive a GTI with DSG. If you can get the hang of that then you should be fine with the Lambo.

Also, Amjams where do you live that you rent a Lamborghini...or any car for that matter? Are you seriously over the age of 25? If you are not, you much be at LEAST 21 and then they tack on some more fee's for you being under the minimum age.

^^ I think he said somewhere around Kuwait.

You know... the country that has fuel that cost around under a dollar of fuel per gallon.

Also, Amjams where do you live that you rent a Lamborghini...or any car for that matter? Are you seriously over the age of 25? If you are not, you much be at LEAST 21 and then they tack on some more fee's for you being under the minimum age.

not in the habit of reading are you? :p

I'm from Kuwait. Gallardos and F430's are available for rent.
that's a 100% correct, same goes here. I have to get someone over 21 to rent it for me. I could get my mom or dad to do it, it's pretty simple. they agreed already. and it's not illegal or anything. they don't care who's gonna drive, just who's gonna take responsibility if anything happens, and that person has to be 21+.

Reading is overrated man. You spend way to much time thinking on your own when it's so much easier to just make false generalized claims to make yourself seem WAY cooler.

anticipate your shifts..

the gear switch as fast as people say it is..is not instantaneous..

there will be a noticeable delay from paddle click to shift.
so if you're gunning it..plan ahead for it..

don't wait till your motors gonna pop before you shift..

and it's herky jerky too..

Don't be fooled by people saying it's "Smooth shifting" and it's the wave of the future..it's not..it's a wacky feeling..yes i said wacky..and at first it will almost feel as if you're doing it wrong..

it'll feel like you took it out of gear...let it sit in neutral...then BAM into the next gear..so don't be surprised if your head snaps a few times.

dsg's are wacky...wonky too...they dont make sense until you push the engine hard

Yeah, what Driftster said about it being not so smooth IS true. Unless you get the LP560-4 model, it's gonna be a little rough, but probably less than a beginner driving a normal manual for sure.

In all honesty, you might want to take your foot off the gas for a second during shifts until you get used to how the car is going to be changing through gears. This way you don't have to worry about over revving the engine and having it explode as a giant half ton German paper weight.

Yeah, what Driftster said about it being not so smooth IS true. Unless you get the LP560-4 model, it's gonna be a little rough, but probably less than a beginner driving a normal manual for sure.

In all honesty, you might want to take your foot off the gas for a second during shifts until you get used to how the car is going to be changing through gears. This way you don't have to worry about over revving the engine and having it explode as a giant half ton Audi.


i corrected your post

....German paper weight....Audi....I don't exactly see what you changed, you just used a synonym.

The n00batr0nz might not have understood it.

Hey...Nah I'll keep quiet or get ripped appart. Drifster an EVO_power...Wouldn't want to face that in a flame war. :p

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