How do we know it won't be light?
http://www.silverhillacura.com/Portals/0/tl.jpg

• Adjustable head restraints – front and rear
• Carpeted floor mats
• Driver’s seat with 8-way power adjustment, power adjustment lumbar support and 2-position memory
• Heated front seats
• Front passenger’s seat with 4-way power adjustment
• Perforated leather-trimmed seats and door-panel insert
12-volt power outlets – front and centre console
• Automatic day/night rearview mirror
• Blue ambient cabin lighting
• Blue ambient footwell lighting
• Dual-zone, dual-mode automatic climate control with air-filtration system
• Exterior temperature indicator
• Front centre console with adjustable armrest, dual-level storage compartment
• Front-door storage compartments with sunglasses holder
• HandsFreeLink™ (with Phonebook Link) bilingual Bluetooth® wireless mobile phone interface
• HomeLink® remote system
• Illuminated driver’s and front passenger’s vanity mirrors
• Illuminated steering wheel-mounted audio, phone and cruise controls
• Keyless memory settings
• Maintenance Minder system
• Multi-Information Display (MID)
• Overhead map lights – front and rear
• Power windows with driver’s and front passenger’s auto-up/down, auto-reverse and key-off operation
• Rear-seat centre armrest with locking trunk pass-through and dual beverage holders
• Remote-linked 2-position memory system for driver’s seat, side mirrors and climate control
• Remote trunk and fuel-filler-door releases
• Speed-sensing, variable intermittent windshield wipers
• Tilt and telescoping steering column
• Trip computer
• User-programmable interior lighting
• 3-point height-adjustable seat belts with load limiters and Automatic Tensioning System (front)
• 3-point seat belts (rear)
• 4-wheel Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) with Electronic Brake Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist
• Childproof rear door locks
• Dual-stage, dual-threshold front airbags (SRS)
• Energy-absorbing crumple zones – front and rear
• Front seat belts with pretensioners
• Front side airbags with passenger-side Occupant Position Detection System (OPDS)
• Immobilizer Theft-Deterrent System
• Lower Anchors and Tethers for Children (LATCH) child-seat mounting system
• Pedestrian Impact Protection
• Phosphorescent emergency trunk opener
• Side curtain airbags with rollover sensors
• Side-impact door beams
• Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) with location indicators
• Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA®) with Traction Control
• Acura/ELS™ Surround Premium Sound System with 6-disc CD changer, DVD-Audio, Dolby • Pro-Logic II® and DTS®, AM/FM tuner, Dolby® cassette, MP3/WMA® compatibility and 8 speakers
• Anti-theft feature
• Disc title display
• Integrated glass antenna
• MP3/auxiliary input jack
• XM® Satellite Radio*
• 17” x 8” exclusive aluminum-alloy wheels
• 3.5-litre, 24-valve, SOHC, VTEC® V-6 engine
• Active Noise Cancellation (ANC)
• Acura Navigation System with bilingual Voice Recognition, rearview
camera and illuminated steering wheel-mounted controls
• Headroom – front/rear: 984/945 mm
• Hip room – front/rear: 1412/1367 mm
• Interior volume: 2772 litres
• Legroom – front/rear: 1088/887 mm
• Seating capacity: 5
• Shoulder room – front/rear: 1482/1414 mm



All those features, the leather the roof..ETC..

And this car weights 3556lbs..

To put that into perspective.
Weights less than a bare bones 335i
weights only 100lbs more than a 135i
Weights 50 less than a very mustang.


Now i know those are ODD cars to chose to go from..but everything else is either not even CLOSE to the TL's class(hyundai tirbuons and other sports coupes)..or outweight the car by 200-300lbs...

I mean the fact that this fully dect out luxo car can weight in at the same as a CTS-V...says alot about Acura's ability to save weight.

Well because cars just seem to get heavier with all these saftey regulations.

How do we know it won't be light?

True. It does look like a small car in the pictures.

If they stuff that V10 into a car the size of a 6th gen Accord coupe, it could be light enough...same as a 335 BMW maybe?

Well if they manage to get it below that weight im going to be happy.

True. It does look like a small car in the pictures.

If they stuff that V10 into a car the size of a 6th gen Accord coupe, it could be light enough...same as a 335 BMW maybe?

funny that you mention it...
Seeing as how the 335coupe i mentioned in my post..


If honda can keep the car SUB Acura TL(Which i don't think will be a problem in the slightest) this thing will be a absolute beast with even 400HP let alone 500


(I think everyone's forgetting this thing will have 500HP)

even at 500HP and the TL's size, it'll be pushing 20moreHP than the GT-R..the best AWD in the business, and will be about 300lbs less

A V10 doesn't mean it's going to be too heavy necessary; plenty of new tricks have shown up in the last ten years that I'm sure Honda hasn't missed.

I think anywhere below 3100 pounds for this car, and it will be golden.

Acura NSX Prototype Nurburgring time is set at 7:37. At least that is what this website is claiming but all of the timing for it was unofficial.

http://www.egmcartech.com/2008/06/19/2010-acura-nsx-prototype-laps-nurburgring-in-737/

Slightly off topic but still about Hondas: VTEC/Drifster have you heard anything about the 2nd gen S2000? I like the S2000 now, but IMO it's time for an update to keep it fresh.

Acura NSX Prototype Nurburgring time is set at 7:37. At least that is what this website is claiming but all of the timing for it was unofficial.That's so awesome, it's hard to put into words. My bet is that it has at least a hundred pounds or so of extra data collection equipment too, so that's weight it down a bit. First run or so is alway pretty conservative, I mean look at how the GTR was able to drop off over ten seconds or so.

I like the S2000 now, but IMO it's time for an update to keep it fresh.
I agree. And a new model may drive AP1 and AP2 prices lower. That's when I take action.

That's so awesome, it's hard to put into words. My bet is that it has at least a hundred pounds or so of extra data collection equipment too, so that's weight it down a bit. First run or so is alway pretty conservative, I mean look at how the GTR was able to drop off over ten seconds or so.

Yeah it'll be one heck of a car that'll move with atom-smashing speed. I'd like to take a walk around the craniums of some of the GT-R developers and listen in on what they think so far. Now here is the scary thought what will a Type R version do? Crush everything it sees.

Dimensional figures based on pictures, gotten by using ruler tools compared with the size of the liscense plates, on Photoshop, with basic math.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm19/Vividbluedreams/nsxdims.gif
Video w/ sound--

http://www.vimeo.com/1203603


It IS small...size of a Cayman almost!

That`s pretty impresive I was beting in a car with the size of a 559 GTB not a Cayman, but this are really good news and it`s away more good locking than the fatass of the GT-R.
Talking about GT-R I don`t expect much more from the V-spec, maybe 50 hp more and looks revised but nothing else.

It IS small...size of a Cayman almost!Pictures don't work, but that's definitely great news for this car!

That's definitely a V10 by the sound.

Pictures don't work, but that's definitely great news for this car!

That's definitely a V10 by the sound.

Damn, well.

They come from a "members only" Honda site.

Prolly why.

Sounds really really good. *drooling*

With a shuch short wheelbase plus the wheels are more ahead and behind than in other cars (shorter noose and tail) and the good balance of a front-mid or mid engine layout this car promisses probably be marvelous at narrow corners and with the AWD stable at high speeds, a pretty good combination. This car just sounds... right. What is good.

Damn, well.

They come from a "members only" Honda site.

Prolly why.
Are they new pictures? If so, Photobucket or Flickr PLEEAASE!

Are they new pictures? If so, Photobucket or Flickr PLEEAASE!

Well, I don't know if I should post any pictures, because they're copyrighted pictures from another site.

That wouldn't be very moderator-y of me, would it?

FYI, It's free to join the TOV, and it's a cool community with lots of in-depth news and reviews.

That's so awesome, it's hard to put into words. My bet is that it has at least a hundred pounds or so of extra data collection equipment too, so that's weight it down a bit. First run or so is alway pretty conservative, I mean look at how the GTR was able to drop off over ten seconds or so.

Don't forget, that lap was timed with stopwatch operated by a spy photographer on a track with traffic. So looking at those two factors as well, this could well be an epic car!


Anyone else feeling a Ferrari esque sound coming from that V10?:-k

Well, I don't know if I should post any pictures, because they're copyrighted pictures from another site.

That wouldn't be very moderator-y of me, would it?

FYI, It's free to join the TOV, and it's a cool community with lots of in-depth news and reviews.
Oh Temple of VTEC? I think I'm already a member.. thanks.
Yeah, such a fresh moderator wouldn't want to do something like that:D

Don't forget, that lap was timed with stopwatch operated by a spy photographer on a track with traffic. So looking at those two factors as well, this could well be an epic car!


Anyone else feeling a Ferrari esque sound coming from that V10?:-k
Yeah, I did kinda have a feeling that it sounded a bit like the older V10 Ferrari (The F2003-F2004), although it sounded as though it were running at low revs (relative to what that engine is designed to run at)
Dimensional figures based on pictures, gotten by using ruler tools compared with the size of the liscense plates, on Photoshop, with basic math.

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm19/Vividbluedreams/nsxdims.gif
Video w/ sound--

http://www.vimeo.com/1203603


It IS small...size of a Cayman almost!
THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!
Now I have a "teaser" of what the new NSX looks/sounds like!!
:D
Regarding size, it did seem quite abit smaller than what I was expecting...I was expecting something about the size of an F430, or Boxster esque in terms of width...

too tall, too short. too ugly. none of our nsx owners like it. it's even worse than the last concept.

On a side note, here was a little thought I had today. I think it would be perfect if the government passed a law that after 2010 no manufactured vehicle could weigh over 3,000 pounds without the driver having a special type of driver's license. This special "heavy operators permit" would be a real test of driving skill, instead of the pathetic excuse for a test they have nowadays that you have to be half brain dead to fail, insuring that those who actually needed a large vehicle for whatever reason could still drive one but would serve as a hassle and obstruction for the many casual SUV owners and would block the people who should not be in a large vehicle because they simply do no have the driving talent.

This would do two things; it would lower the weight of the most vehicles greatly improving fuel economy across the board, but would also remove most of the large vehicles from the roads meaning you would be able to drive a small car without the safety concerns of being smashed by a massive SUV and having no chance of surviving.

I would not have it be retroactive, meaning that cars older the 2010 that were over 3000 would be able to be driven without such a permit.Genius... PURE GENUIS!!! I wish that would happen, but it seems that more companies make even more SUV's and Trucks nowadays than before.