For and agaonst arguements. For me its the F40. The first real supercar. UNDILUTED

They're both ugly IMO, so I'll have to base this on performance and feel...
And there, I guess the Enzo wins. The F40 might give you the little extra excitement when the twin turbos kick in, but IMO this is not enough to take the throne from the Enzo.

F40 because i say so.

F40, it's balls, all balls...And we all know I'm all about balls. :shock: :lol:

this is a really tough one actually. Hmmm. I'm all for the old sk00l, and i dont like all the crap that comes with the enzo. I dont want padle shifting or anything like that. I want a clutch, a steering wheel, a brake pedal and a gas pedal that can unleash hell on my command. So, my vote goes for the one, the only true ferrari supercar. The glorious F40. But only in black.

The F40 is without doubt, one of Ferrari's best Supercars.. but i'll have to go with the Enzo, it's simply the car that deserves the name of Ferrari's maker.

HAHA.. does the "balls" thing about the F40 have to do with the fact that it has 2 Huge .... :twisted:

i'll take an F50 :roll: :lol:

i'll take an F50 :roll: :lol:

same if i could choose the F50, i'll do that
too bad its not an option

I'll choose the F40

The F40 is old and quite ugly and there is no warranty on it .
If I am gone bay a super sportcar I buy a new one with warranty it can be quite expensive to repair an old F40 :-)

so enzo for me :-)

F40 for me because it's more wild then Enzo.

F40:
I want a clutch, a steering wheel, a brake pedal and a gas pedal that can unleash hell on my command..

it can be quite expensive to repair an old F40

If you can afford a F40, I'm sure you'll be able to pay the repaircosts from it. :wink:

what if you win one?

what if you win one?

Then you'd be bankrupt in no time

I dont like the F50. It was too much of a designer car. It's too fancy.

I'm sorry, I disagree with those that choose the F4o over the Enzo. It makes no sense to me. Just becuase the F40 was "first" doesnt mean it is better. To the contrary, the Enzo made improvements over the F40 and evolved quite a bit. It's performance number are better too.

I think you F40 fans are just being nastalgic ( spelling).

I vote for the Enzo.

I think your head is just too far up your [butt].

The F40 is much better car. The Enzo extremely overrated. There are some positive aspects about it, but the negatives out weigh the positives. I would rather not have a wannabe supercar that was shown up by a $80,000 four banger. I would rather have a pure bred super car with nothing but endless amounts of power.

Attaus has a point the F40 is a pure supercar, IMO the Enzo would be lost without the F40.

I think your head is just too far up your [butt].

THANK YOU, i've been wanting to say that for a damn long time :lol:

Well, i like how that guy clarkson on top gear put it. The F40 is just more fun. It's so pure and doesn't have computer anything. It's lighter and quicker on it's feet. So what if it doesn't match the lap times of the enzo? The enzo BETTER be faster. But it's just not as fun. And i agree with clarkson. I'm all for fun.

does the f40 have a stick or paddles?

The F40 is stick

ah i see, that would make it much more fun imo

found this pic

http://www.genesisautosales.com/dc/Ferrari/1990%20Ferrari%20F40,%20red,%20interior. jpg

5spd?

5spd?

5-speed manual system with hydraulically actuated single-plate clutch.

a link about the F40:
http://www.fast-autos.net/ferrari/ferrarif40.html

thanks

1203 posts W00T!

Great job and in such short time, 472 posts, 28 more to go before 500

i like the F40 because to me it seems like it would be a better drive then the enzo
like mopar said its more fun

F40, the enzo is so ugly, not just ugly, but ugly! :P

it was the late 80's early 90's. Think about it. It had a manual. They didn't have the technology for a sequential gearbox. I'm not even sure they had paddle shift gearboxes in F1 cars at that time.

Mr Moderator...when people disagree with you, why do you feel the need to hurl personal insults " your head is too far up your butt". Perhaps you could earn more credibility if you could actually debate the issue.

The Enzo is literally better in every performance category. So saying the F40 is more of a pure sports car is wrong. And saying the enzo is not fun to drive is probably the sillieat comment ever posted on here. Again, I think the F40 paved the way for the Enzo, but now the Enzo is the new king. If the Enzo where built 20 yrs ago and the F40 were the new car...you guys would be calling the enzo the best.

Ok, first off, I personally respect Attaus alot, as a mod on these boards he's insightful, smart and mature for someone his age. You can't tell us we're wrong, this is an opinion based arguement. I suggest you watch the most recent Top Gear episode, most of us have and it basically explains why we like the F40 more so than the Enzo.

But since you likely won't, here's why:
F40, it's lighter, by alot, as such, it's "puny" engine with those twin turbo's can blast you forward almost as fast as an Enzo, and it only starts to lose at about 140 mph. At which time you'll wanna slow down. Now the Enzo will win a race, none of us are saying the F40 could beat an Enzo on a track, that'd be absurd. We're saying, given the choice of driving one, which would likely be more fun.

You're a very opinionated, and quick to "Fire" individual, I've had to rewrite this twice to keep my personal comments out of it.

Mr Moderator...when people disagree with you, why do you feel the need to hurl personal insults " your head is too far up your butt". Perhaps you could earn more credibility if you could actually debate the issue.

The Enzo is literally better in every performance category. So saying the F40 is more of a pure sports car is wrong. And saying the enzo is not fun to drive is probably the sillieat comment ever posted on here. Again, I think the F40 paved the way for the Enzo, but now the Enzo is the new king. If the Enzo where built 20 yrs ago and the F40 were the new car...you guys would be calling the enzo the best. Lets lay down some obvious facts. If the F40 wa never made then the Enzo just would not be here today. The F40 is stick. Hell its soraw and pure it doesn't even have door handles, just a piece of string. This is what a real supercar should be about. FUN. Not all this tracion control. Just a big V8 and it does what ever you tel it to do, when you tell it to do

I guess we have different opinions as to what a super car should be. No door handles, bare bones interior, slower, worse brakes and less build quality are all things the F40 can lay claim to.

The Enzo is a better machine in my opinion.

Enzo for me..... damn thing is just a rocket with some tires on it..... :smt066

Difficult to choose... :?
I'll take F40 :!:

Mr Moderator...when people disagree with you, why do you feel the need to hurl personal insults " your head is too far up your butt". Perhaps you could earn more credibility if you could actually debate the issue.

I made that comment because you have this "im better than you" attitude that I don't appreciate. You have been here less than a month and think that you know what should a should not be done on a Forum. I also replied on which car shoud win. What more do you want? I wouldn't have said that had you not said "I think you F40 fans are just too nastalgic". But you said it, so did I.

The F40 IS a purebread sports car. Having a bare bone interior MAKES it a sports car. Having $20,000 dollar racing buckets makes it overpriced. In my supercar I want two seats, a steering wheel, and three pedals. I dont need anything more. Attention should be focused on performance and styling for maximum efficiency. Ok, so the Enzo is faster. It SHOULD be faster. After 15 years of engineering, Ferrari should have a better car.

Its has a H-Gate Stick, the only thing that would detract me form the F40 would be the fears of twon driving and the heavy clutch which came with all old supercars (except the XJ220). I would rather have a Enzo for its sex appeal, but I would rather drive a F40. But, in fairness, I've never been a HUGE Ferrari fan (I like Ford remember? Ford V Ferrari? Le-mas? Ring any bells?), so if I wanted a supercar, I'd go and have a Lamborghini Murcielago or a Jaguar XJ220. I'll have a Ford GT too!

i do love the xj220, jags have really sexy styling

I like the looks of the XJ220, its more of a road car than anything though

I would need to upgrade the brakes before i took it on a track! JC says they're s**t!

For all the people who think that us F40 supporters are just being nostalgic. take a look at the poll. Thats a big margin> btw the xj220 is a liitle off topic btw

Yeah, my fault sorry guys! :cry:

As for the F40, i would love to drive one of these around imola or something. It would be great. Actually, what i would really like to do its line up the following Ferraris and drive them in order of production in three groups.

355
360
420

F40
F50
F60

Testerosa
550
575
600
612

Yo mondeo cosworth you seem like me. Prepared and u like things in order. In my opinion we are both twats

Yep, sounds about right. :lol: :wink:

It would be great tho, just think of all those V8's and V12's at idle, the frost melting off the exhausts and the sun gleaming off the paintwork over its beautifully sculpted body! Errr, wheres that bloody race-track! :twisted:

I just had a mini orgasm (pardon the french)

Enzo. I've driven in both, and the F40 is a really rough ride. I imagine it would be dificult for daily driving. The boost will kick in on street corners at times, so you have to be ready.

good god, how many people from austin texas are going to join this forum.

I agree with you though. The F40 has power nothing. It doesn't even have power steering. So, if you dont want to deal with that, then yeah, i'd go with the enzo. But i think that adds character to a car and keeps you awake while you drive. No power steering also makes your forearms bigger.

The F40 is not more wild than the Enzo. You may be confusing less refined and less stable with wildness. The Enzo wins in every performance category and is much more refined. I pick the Enzo any day.

This is the definition of wild:

Wild- going beyond normal or conventional bounds.

Thats just one of the many definitions, but it sums up this argument. Being unrefined and untamed is exactly what makes a car wild. The F40 is as raw as it comes. It's so pure. Nothing can hold the F40 back. There are no electronic devices to prevent the driver from doing something stupid. It takes a level of insanity to drive an F40.

Like i said before, ok, the F40 would get creamed by the Enzo around the track. No doubt about that. But the driver of the F40 is going to have alot more fun because he'll be driving the car. A car as advanced as the Enzo can almost drive itself. Where is the fun in that?

So no, your wrong in saying the F40 is less wild than the Enzo. Saying that it is isn't an opinion, it's a fact. And i can prove facts wrong.

The F40 is not more wild than the Enzo. You may be confusing less refined and less stable with wildness. The Enzo wins in every performance category and is much more refined. I pick the Enzo any day.
I think you are the one that is confusing wild with less refined and less stable.
For example, you're going in a turn, going full speed. You brake, shift down, steer, etc. An Enzo will do this smooth, and very neat. Well, it's supposed to do that. A F40 will be harder to control in the corner, because it hasn't got these electronic systems.

If it's hard to control, i'd call that a wild car.
And I prefer that, because if you can control the car through the corner you can say: I did that!. If you control an Enzo through a corner, it's probably all these electronic systems who took the corner, not you.

Thats a fair point. But deciding which car you would rather own should take into account far more than pre-cornering logistics.

How about rifinement? Which car would you rather own if you had to bet your house on winning a track race ( or any race for that matter)? Which car looks more like a piece of artwork? Which car has the technology worthy of such a car?

Again, I think the Enzo is in a different league than the F40. Frankly, its a bit of a stretch to even compare them.

I havent read all 7 pages of info, but my vote goes to the F40, it looks the best (looks one of the best Ferraris), has a turbo, despite lag, this makes it cool in my books, has huge holes in the rear winow, looks like a mean beast, enzo looks like a little cat against the beast of the F40! and tyres so wide.... i dont know, just very wide rear tread... oh and its the same age as me! :cool:
and there are 2 in my area, one owned by my employer (lucky ******* that he is!!)

How about rifinement? Which car would you rather own if you had to bet your house on winning a track race ( or any race for that matter)? Which car looks more like a piece of artwork? Which car has the technology worthy of such a car?


when your buying a $500,000+(or whatever they cost) Ferrari Supercar, i think that refinement doesn't really matter

and i think the bare interior of the f40 just adds to its personality and character imo

Thats a fair point. But deciding which car you would rather own should take into account far more than pre-cornering logistics.

How about rifinement? Which car would you rather own if you had to bet your house on winning a track race ( or any race for that matter)? Which car looks more like a piece of artwork? Which car has the technology worthy of such a car?

Again, I think the Enzo is in a different league than the F40. Frankly, its a bit of a stretch to even compare them.
In a race where i could win something i would always take the Enzo over the F40, but that's not the point here. But if it's only a trackday, it'll be the F40 hands down!
And the corner was an example for the fun-factor we're talking about.

I think their both a wonderfull piece of art, but because when they made the F40 they didn't had the technology that they have now. So you can't compare that really.

I still say: F40 for me

CarRocker, with all due respect, your last paragraph makes no sense at all.

You said because when the F40 was built, they didnt have the technology they have now so we cant compare it against the Enzo. THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!

The enzo is a more technically advanced, refined, higher performing automobile. This comparo is getting bizarre when everybody agrees the Enzo is faster, more refined, more of a piece of artwork, and utilizes higher technology; then F40 fans discount all of that and say its not fair because the F40 was built 20yrs ago. Then the answer is the F40 loses the comparo.

I didnt know we were weighing production dates and $$ in the equation. I thought we were just comparing the two machines and voting for which one was better. You guys sound more and more like Corvette fans as this thread grows.

You guys sound more and more like Corvette fans as this thread grows.

There is Mr. Personality!!! I thought I smelled a fish troller!

Just can't let anyone have there own opinion.....You make me laugh!

Incutl"ass"...you are an absolute moron. This is a comparison message board where people go back and forth in support of their opinion. You seem to have nothing intelligent to say about the F40/Enzo comparison. Your number one mission is to attack people personally if you feel they are affectively supporting their comparison choice.
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Man-o-man...your parents must be very proud of you. Thanks for policing the board, keep up the good work.

(Do you have an intelligent opinion about the topic at hand?)

Incutl"ass"...you are an absolute moron. This is a comparison message board where people go back and forth in support of their opinion. You seem to have nothing intelligent to say about the F40/Enzo comparison. Your number one mission is to attack people personally if you feel they are affectively supporting their comparison choice.
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Man-o-man...your parents must be very proud of you. Thanks for policing the board, keep up the good work.

(Do you have an intelligent opinion about the topic at hand?)
Strong words from a fish...
but i do not count that when it was made makes it worse, i always stick with the Enzo is a nasty piece of artwork to look at, the F40 is just mean though

Can't compare them...Ok...Ferrari every few years comes out with a car that expresses everything they've learned on the track, and transferred to the road. In the late eighties Grand Prix cars generally used Twin Turbo V8's, as such that's what the F40 used.

The F50 had a V12 similar to the early 90's Ferrari grand prix cars, suspension tech. Both the F40 and F50 were light as heck, and got rid of everything on the inside.

The Enzo is simply the newest version of Ferrari's "Super Ferrari's", it has all the technolody a Grand Prix car has nowadays, paddle shifters, electronic stuff up the wazoo...etc...

So, this is simply "Old versus New", nothing more. And it boils down to, Do you want something to beat everyone on the track in, or something that is a bigger adrenaline rush? The F40 wins in my "fun" book...

Tuna, you dont get it. It's just not getting through to you.

So lets go through this agian:

The enzo is faster, handles better and easier, more refined and no doubt would be faser around the track. However, it wouldn't be as much fun. Why? Cause the enzo has electronic aids. If you go too fast, it'll slow you down. It makes it easier for you to brake and turn and shift.

Now, every single last member in this forum is a car lover. They love cars for speed, not for image or how fast they are. They want fun. Agreed? Fun is heal-toe shifting and drift braking and actually turning the wheel. Having fun is letting the back end a little lose around the corner and compensating for turbo lag. It's a rush, and it's what all of us here live on.

This is the end of the argument right here: I'd rather go slower around a track and come out with all my muscles aching and sweating buckets than whisk myself around the same track faster and with less effort. Less effort equals less fun. Get it? And no, the enzo is no piece of art. It's form following function. Its not beautiful at all. It's a race car made to go as fast as possible. The F40 is way better looking.

[edited by jim: DON'T make offensive posts]

Mopar has a good point, as does Ghalos. You really don't get what we're saying. The car enthusiasts (all of us I hope) have a passion for cars. We dont love cars because of how fast they can get around a track. We love cars because of how much fun we have driving around that track. The Enzo is just so controlling and lifeless, the only reason you would buy one is because of its design, slightly better track times, and interior quality. Ok, this is true. The point is, you could have the fastest car in the world, and you would have absolutely no fun if the car told you what you can and cannot do. I would rather have a power nothing, bare bone, nothing but a steering wheel and seat supercar, than a controlling, overpriced, too "sheek" art car. We DONT CARE that the Enzo is faster or more refined, so PLEASE stop bringing it up.

Incutl"ass"...you are an absolute moron. This is a comparison message board where people go back and forth in support of their opinion. You seem to have nothing intelligent to say about the F40/Enzo comparison. Your number one mission is to attack people personally if you feel they are affectively supporting their comparison choice.
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Man-o-man...your parents must be very proud of you. Thanks for policing the board, keep up the good work.

(Do you have an intelligent opinion about the topic at hand?)

Do you mean other than the fact you and I both agreed on the Enzo? Or that we both like Porsche?
Check the thread now buckwheat.

I am the moron? You make some big presumptions here. You go off saying your view is the correct one, and then put words in our mouths that we have conceded to you, when everything posted here is based on peoples opinions. Is that about accurate?

The vette thing ,which by the way is where 90% of your inept arguments stem from, is also where you showed everyone how precarious you are. Your Incoherent ramblings on that thread indicated to EVERYONE here that you sir are a troller. Thats you new monicker fish boy, "troller". "Going back and forth" is the same as having an argument. If that why you have come here say it now, because thats the way it looks. YOU have attacked everyone with you persistent arguments on a board that is about respecting peoples opinions and enjoying the world of automobiles.

I would be happy to find an actuall usefull piece of info written by you anywhere on this forum.

CarRocker, with all due respect, your last paragraph makes no sense at all.

You said because when the F40 was built, they didnt have the technology they have now so we cant compare it against the Enzo. THATS EXACTLY MY POINT!

YOU are the one who writes things that doesn't make sense. YOU are the one who only looks at the refinement of a car. If that is the way how you choose a car, then you're a moron.

Notice how he vanishes when he's hit hard?


HA!

Big pu55y!

You are all certifiably nuts. The comparison is between two cars. I voiced my opinion and supported it with facts. Then because the facts are contrary to most of your opinions, you lash out with personal attacks. Frankly, I'm guessing this is a chat room with 2-3 people using different nicknames but thats besides the point.

To paint the Enzo as some sort of numb, lifeless, boring Honda Accord shows just how out of touch you people are. To say the Enzo looks ugly is equally ridiculous. The F40 was a great car. It had its day in the sun. The Enzo is king now with its excitement & performance.

( this is the part where incutl"ass" chimes in and tries to impress us with his wit ;-)

It looks like there are 6 other people that agree with me so far in this poll. I'm guessing that number will keep climbing.

I understand what your guys are saying about the F40. It does have character and rawness. But its the equivalent of saying the 1984 VW Rabbit GTI is a better car than the 2004 VW Golf R32. In my "opinion" ( note to incutl"ass" - dont get all defensive, its only an opinion)... you are being too nostalic in choosing the F40. The Enzo is a better machine, produces as many thrills and does so at higher speeds.

...and excuse me...for $500,000 + I "DO" expect the car to have some precision craftmanship and refinement.

( note to incutl"ass" - dont get all defensive, its only an opinion)... you are being too nostalic in choosing the F40.


You don't know how to read, or what?

My choice in this thread was the Enzo you flam'n idiot.

If you don't pull your head outta you a55 soon your going to suffocate.

I understand what your guys are saying about the F40. It does have character and rawness. But its the equivalent of saying the 1984 VW Rabbit GTI is a better car than the 2004 VW Golf R32.
If you'd really understand what we're saying, then you know that your last sentence is BS.
You know, i think that i know now how the UN must have felt when they tried to stop Bush from attacking Iraq. It was useless. Just like it's useless to stop you. *sigh*

Now, every single last member in this forum is a car lover. They love cars for speed, not for image or how fast they are. . You have kind of contradicted yourself here mopar but a good point never the less

Tuna, only a few people in this thread agree with what you are saying. You don't seem understand the comparison. We are NOT comparing speed. We ARE comparing the characters of the cars and which would be best to drive. IMO the enzo seems a little bit bland. It has character, but it is wrapped in electronics and computers that restric this. It seems to have,lets say a protective casing, not allowing you to unleash the true character. The F40 has it in bucket fulls and is not restricted in any way. Therefore would be, Not the best, but the most fun to drive. Its raw and pure. These characteristics are raley found in cars these days no matter how fast they are.

Tuna, only a few people in this thread agree with what you are saying. You don't seem understand the comparison. We are NOT comparing speed. We ARE comparing the characters of the cars and which would be best to drive. IMO the enzo seems a little bit bland. It has character, but it is wrapped in electronics and computers that restric this. It seems to have,lets say a protective casing, not allowing you to unleash the true character. The F40 has it in bucket fulls and is not restricted in any way. Therefore would be, Not the best, but the most fun to drive. Its raw and pure. These characteristics are raley found in cars these days no matter how fast they are.

Your wasting your breath... he doesn't know how to read.

BTW: Even tho I would choose the Enzo, I see what your saying. I too like how some cars just look like the purist form of sport car. It's just a matter of image for me. As shown in my wish list garage all mine did have all the computers , and did look futuristic. I only bring that up to show how these threads SHOULD be , so that our trolling friend may eventually get the picture.....

Also , good coments from stunt cars and car rocker......

Good point car rocker, i should read my posts before i enter them.

What i meant to say was this:

Now, every single member of this forum is a car lover. They love cars for the thrill, not for image or how fast they are....

Make more sense?

I think i should end this argument soon, because i think it's just going to get out of hand. Tuna, you dont supposrt your opnions with facts. They're just facts. So this is the last time i'm going to say this. The Enzo is an amazing machine. It's the height of automotive technology. But thats exactly why i dont like it. Too much technology. I like the F40 for what it doesn't have, not for what it does have. It doesn't have any power devices. It's pure car. Engine, chassis, wheels, seat and thats basically it. You sit down in the car, and there is nothing in it except the gas pedal, the clutch, the brake, the steering wheel and the shift lever. To me, that spells fun. When you get into the enzo, you see lots of buttons. I dont like buttons. So, case in point:

The F40 is a race car. It's made just for driving, and it takes skill and courage to drive. The Enzo is a computer with wheels. It's fast, but not dangerous. Whats the point in drivng fast if it's not dangerous?

Mopar, thats just silly. The Enzo will give you more of an adrenelin rush than you could handle. More excitement than i night on the town with Teresa Heinz.

You say this is not about image...yet Incutl"ass" says he chooses the Enzo more for "image". I guess you two should debate on your own. I cant keep up with your contradictions.

( and the UN did authorize the use of force...they just didnt have the grapes to back up what they said. It took GWB to put an end to the 11 yrs of empty UN threats )

tuna u aint got a clue m8 just concede defeat

Once again.... he doesn't read... I never said I liked the F40 more than the enzo, so where is the contradiction....?

They say fish have small brains. Our trolling friend has just proved it. Thanks for letting me ( and everyone else) beat on you.

Not sure how you got such a big mouth, I would only guess you have dirty knees as well.

Later MORON.

To all those who keep saying that the F40 is more 'raw' and fun...
Have you actually driven both so you can choose?
I do believe that the Enzo will offer greater thrills than any car today. And there is no "computer stuff", everything can be deactivated...
We're talking about the FLAGSHIP of Ferrari, I'm sure they've put amazing effort into it.

And I would advise all of you (both Tuna and the other side) to be more polite.

Incutlass said - " Even know I would choose the Enzo, I see what you are saying. But its a matter of image for me"

Then said " I never said I like the Enzo better..." . Wow, this is too weird for me.

That is what you wrote. So why are you saying you never said that and I dont read? You are now in a great debate with yourself. You are a great debater...some would say a "mastur-debator". LOL!

I agree with the previous poster. We need to remain civil and agree to disagree on this comparison.

Your right jim, i most definetly do not know if the Enzo or F40 is more fun. But from everything i've heard, the F40 seems more fun than the Enzo, so i'll go with that. Also, the electronic aids can be turned off, but i imagine it would be next to impossible to drive since it we designed with the electronic aids on (just a guess, i dont have any real info to back that up). Plus, the enzo, even with electronic stuff turned off, has power everything. Brakes, steering, etc. The F40 has power nothing, which is more fun in my opnion. A better connection between driver and car. I know for a fact that it's much easier to drive a car without power steering, but there is a sense of a direct connection between you and a car and i like that.

I should've also pointed out i'm extremely biased towards cars with real transmissions, not the paddle shift sequential kind. I like the regular manual for the same reason i like no power steering.

Trust me, I know what you're talking about.
I just think that the Enzo might be as fun as the F40, if not more.
And FYI, all Ferraris are built and designed without the electronic systems. Those are just additional safety elements.

See, i did not know that. Thank you for the info.

It looks like there are 6 other people that agree with me so far in this poll. I'm guessing that number will keep climbing.Woohoo! Now its only 19 to 7 in favor of the F40! You're on your way back! =D>

Look at the polls. I know that there are not 100% accurate, but if we are in favor of the F40 by a margin of 50%, there must be a reason.

Btw, we aren't just three people. That would be pointless and stupid, just like your posts. I dont normally feel this way towards members, but you are on the end of a long string of crappy members that just like to stir up trouble. Thats right, jump on the bandwagon. Piss us off while you're at it. You stated the SAME ideas atleast 10 times. I don't even care what you have to say, im sick of it. We are entitled to our opinions, and so are you. We dont call you an idiot when you say you prefer the Enzo. I respect that. What I dont respect is when you call US idiots for picking a car for different reasons. We're trying to save this forum by putting up quality posts and keeping good solid opinions coming in that are open to ideas. You are just trying to tear it down. Yeah, go ahead, whine about it to the other mods because "im treating you unfairly", but frankly, I think you had it coming.

it seems like in these topics everyone has their opinion, but feels the need to state it 400 times,

you say your opinion, someone disagrees with you, you end up getting in a big fight with them...this is how its been working, and i dont think that its a good thing....people need to value other people opinions, just because you don't agree, doesn't mean you need to get in a large arguement on the boards with them :cool:

Incutlass said - " Even know I would choose the Enzo, I see what you are saying. But its a matter of image for me"

Then said " I never said I like the Enzo better..." . Wow, this is too weird for me.

That is what you wrote. So why are you saying you never said that and I dont read? You are now in a great debate with yourself. You are a great debater...some would say a "mastur-debator". LOL!

I agree with the previous poster. We need to remain civil and agree to disagree on this comparison.

Do you remember when I claimed you put words in peoples mouths. Here is the proof.
CAN ANYONE FIND IN THE 9 PAGES OF THIS TOPIC FIND WHERE I SAID" I NEVER SAID I LIKE THE ENZO BETTER" AS IN TUNAS CLAIM.

LOOK NOW PLEASE.

"Too weird"...you bet ya. I never said what you claim.lying comes easily to you or what? What I did say was that you can't read, which you have just proven.

What I said was " I never said I liked the F40 more than the enzo" Refer to page 8. I said that because you claimed "you are being too nostalic in choosing the F40." I talked about the image of the Enzo, and how because of it's futuristic look, it would also be in my futuristic garage. Thread here: http://www.sportscarforums.com/showthread.php?t=2203&page=11&pp=10

Aint copy and past a great thing. You really should learn how to use it if your going to quote someone. I can't tell if you are an idiot by choice or if you are sincerely retarded. In any event , you are an embarrassment to mankind, and the general IQ average for the world would bump up 10 points if you were living on the moon.

You have not been able to win any argument, post any facts, or sway any opinions with your incoherent dribble. One word sir "obtuse" look it up.

Anyway I am done abusing you for the evening. I think I have been able to prove you don't have 2 firing neurons in your head, and I also am willing to bet the moderator has been letting me be so abusive to you because we all agree on you, and I am typing what everyone is thinking. Gooday punk.

THIS IS SOOOO LAME.

You're all like kids, you can't stop fighting, and you haven't learned to respect other peoples opinions. Most of you.

LOCKED.