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SKR34
Dec 04, 2007, 7:04 PM
Sorry for the delay. School's a bit*h.
This Month's Theme
Roadsters/Convertibles
Last Month's Winner: SKR34 and the Mclaren F1
Rules:
-All entries must be Roadsters or Convertibles.
*If you don't know what a Roadster or convertible is, don't enter this competition.
-All entries must be licensed for production as of September 2007.
-No tuned cars. (eg. Hamann, AC Shcnitzer, STRUT)
-In House tuning companies are not allowed (eg. AMG, Nismo, TRD)
-There are no restrictions for price or performance. Anything is up for grabs.
-If your entry does not comply with the rules, you can change your entry. If not, then no changing once entered.
-Entry does not have to be street legal.
-Give Specs.
Include only 1 picture in your entry. It must be without the roof on.
All Entries Must Be In By December 16, 2007 At 11:59:59 GMT-5
Any suggestions, just PM me. Same with comp ideas.
Good Luck.
Entries accepted:
Alfa Romeo Spider V6 Q4
Mercedes SLR Roadster
Pagani Zonda F Roadster
Koenigsegg CCR
Tesla Roadster
Jaguar XKR Convertible
Ferrari F430 Spider
Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Roadster
Mazda MX-5
Ariel Atom
Porsche Carrera GT
Fisker Tramonto
Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster
Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet
Ford Mustang GT
Saturn Sky
Bentley Azure
Honda S2000
Volkswagen Eos
civic_VTI
Dec 04, 2007, 7:29 PM
2007 Alfa Romeo Spider V6 Q4
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/spider07_01.jpg
Base Price: £31,250
Type: V6
Displacement cu in (cc): 195 (3195)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 260(191) / 6300
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 238(322) / 4500
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 7
Top Speed mph (km/h): 149 (240)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.
SKR34
Dec 04, 2007, 7:33 PM
Specs.......
forzamotorsport9
Dec 04, 2007, 8:20 PM
Mercedes SLR Roadster, and its not an AMG so it counts
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/autoblog/hirezpics/SLRR_1280.jpg
Specs:
Net power 617 hp @ 6,500 rpm
Net torque 575 lb-ft @ 3,250 – 5,000 rpm
Compression ratio 9.0:1
Fuel requirement
Premium unleaded gasoline, 91 pump octane.
0-60 estimated 3.8sec, top speed 206 est
S-Tune_S1
Dec 04, 2007, 8:30 PM
Pagani Zonda F Roadster :
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3606/11795img1298122234lobf3.jpg
Specs :
Engine : V12
Power : 650bhp / 6200 RPM
Torque : 576 lb.ft /4000 RPM
Weight : 1230Kg
transmission : 6-speed manual
0-60 - 3.6 seconds
top speed : >214 Mph
SKR34
Dec 04, 2007, 8:36 PM
So far so good.
My entry. The Koenigsegg CCR.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/01/ccr04_04.jpg
Type:Supercharged V8
Power:806 bhp @ 6900 rpm
Torque: 678 lb/ft. @ 5700 rpm
Displacement:4700 cc
Top Speed:: 241 mph
Koenigga
Dec 04, 2007, 9:16 PM
I'm gonna probe the rule tolerance here and go with this:
http://forum.avtoindex.com/foto/data/media/212/tesla_roadster_wallpaper_1.jpg
Model Tesla Roadster
Engine Electric motor powered by lithium-ion battery
Power 248bhp @ 8000rpm
Torque 200 lb ft @ 0-6000rpm
Transmission Two-speed manual
CO2 n/a
Acceleration 0-60mph: 4sec
Top speed 130mph Price $98,000 (£48,600)
Ferrari308
Dec 04, 2007, 9:37 PM
My entry is the 2007 Jaguar XKR Convertible:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/xkrc07_01.jpg
Specs:
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement: cu in (cc): 256 (4196)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 420BHP @ 6250RPM
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 413Lb-Ft @ 4000RPM
Acceleration (0-60): 5 Seconds
Top Speed: 155 (Electronically Limited)
Price: $91,835 USD
Supra Toms
Dec 04, 2007, 9:56 PM
2007 Ferrari F430 Spider
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/9376/f430spider0502bx8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
V8 4.3L NA
490Hp
3350 lbs
0-100kph= 4.0sec
Top Speed 320kph
skyline101
Dec 04, 2007, 9:57 PM
2007 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 Roadster
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/lp640road07_03.jpg
Type: V12
Displacement cu in (cc): 396 (6496)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 640(471) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 487(660) / 6000
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.4
Top Speed mph (km/h): 205 (330)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): 9/14 (n.a.)
edit: by golly Supra Toms, u posted the exact same car just a minute before me... hahahaha... now i hafta change it right? alright... lol!
edit: alright, i changed my car... lol.
car lover !!
Dec 04, 2007, 10:39 PM
Is this entry eligible?
2007 Mazda MX-5
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/01/mazdamx506_03.jpg
Type: Inline 4
Power: 170bhp @ 6700 rpm
Torque: 140lb-ft. @ 5000 rpm
Displacement: 2000cc
Top Speed:: n.a.
Price - $20,435
firebird400
Dec 05, 2007, 12:58 AM
http://www.openwheelers.co.nz/newmodel/images/Atom_3-4_front.jpg
Engine Location: Rear
Drive Type: Rear Wheel
Weight: 456 kg | 1005.5 lbs
Engine: I4
Max hp: 300
Transmission: 6 speed
BMW CLR 600
Dec 05, 2007, 1:08 AM
my entry...Porsche CGT. it has no roof, so I guess it can be considered a roadster...if not, i just change mine to something else.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/carreragt06_09.jpg
Engine type: V10
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 605(450)/8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 437(590) 5750
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 205 (330)
TBR 427
Dec 05, 2007, 1:17 AM
Engine: 3799cc Audi V8, Fuel injected, NA, V8
Power: 336kw
Torque: 420Nm
Weight: 1100kg
0-100km/h: 3.7s
Top speed: 300km/h
Guessed what it is yet?
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic.php?imagenum=6&carnum=2320
hangar_18
Dec 05, 2007, 4:28 AM
my entry...Porsche CGT. it has no roof, so I guess it can be considered a roadster...if not, i just change mine to something else.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/carreragt06_09.jpg
Engine type: V10
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 605(450)/8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 437(590) 5750
Driveline: Rear Wheel Drive
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 205 (330)
i think that's not allowed? the rules said the car must be licensed for production as of September 2007, and the Carrera GT is out of production....
Tom Kristensen
Dec 05, 2007, 10:13 AM
Mercedes SLR Roadster, and its not an AMG so it counts
Specs:
Net power 617 hp @ 6,500 rpm
Net torque 575 lb-ft @ 3,250 – 5,000 rpm
Compression ratio 9.0:1
Fuel requirement
Premium unleaded gasoline, 91 pump octane.
0-60 estimated 3.8sec, top speed 206 estThat's the Vision SLR concept car from 1999. This is the original gangster.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/slr_roadster.asp
Here's my entry. I don't know if it qualifies 'cause I'm not sure about that Spetemper 2007 production-thing.
Fisker Tramonto
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1217/tramonto06111600jw3.jpg
Type: V8, Supercharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 332 (5439)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 610(455) / 5800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 650(881) / 2200-4700
Weight lb (kg): 4205 (1909)
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.6
Top Speed mph (km/h): 202 (325) - electronically limited
Base Price: $296,775
astonmartin138
Dec 05, 2007, 11:27 AM
My entry - the Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster:
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/vantager07_02.jpg
Type: V8
Displacement cu in (cc): 262 (4300)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 380(283) / 7000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 302(410) / 5000
Weight lb (kg): 3769 (1710)
Acceleration 0-62 mph s:4.9
Top Speed mph (km/h): 175 (280)
Base Price: $126,400 (£100,000 est.)
leka-S
Dec 05, 2007, 11:32 AM
I choose the Ford GTX1 Roadster
Engine........5.5L Supercharged V8
Power........550bhp/6500rpm
Torque.......678Nm/3750rpm
Redline.......6500rpm
0-60mph....N/A
Top Speed..N/A
Weight.......N/A
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/fordgtx106_07.jpg
civic_VTI
Dec 05, 2007, 11:36 AM
is the gtx1 classed as a tuned car?
SamGTR
Dec 05, 2007, 11:40 AM
Hope this qualifies:
Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3252/porsche911turbocabriolefn9.jpg
Engine Type: Twin-turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3596cc
Power: 480bhp
Torque: 460lb-ft
Weight: 1420kg
0-60mph: 3.5s
Topspeed: 193mph
EDIT: The GTX1 was never produced anyway was it?
leka-S
Dec 05, 2007, 11:42 AM
As much as the SLR Roadster is !!! No it's not a tuned car !!!
V8allday
Dec 05, 2007, 11:58 AM
2007 mustang GT
Type: V8
Displacement cu in (cc): 281 (4606)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 300(221) / 5750
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 320(434) / 4500
Redline at RPM: 6250
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 235/55 ZR17
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 188.0 × 73.9 × 55.7
Weight lb (kg): 3614 (1641)
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: n.a.
Top Speed mph (km/h): 143 (230)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): 17/25 (n.a.)
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/07/mustangconv05_01.jpg
Tom Kristensen
Dec 05, 2007, 12:10 PM
As much as the SLR Roadster is !!! No it's not a tuned car !!!The SLR is made by the factory. GTX1 is a custom aftermarket conversion performed by Genaddi Design Group... But they don't tune the car, and the GTX1 is approved by Ford... so I would let it qualify, but that's just because I'm a fanboy.
leka-S
Dec 05, 2007, 12:30 PM
For that matter the SLR is a tuned SL55 by McLaren
astonmartin138
Dec 05, 2007, 1:02 PM
For that matter the SLR is a tuned SL55 by McLaren
There is no part which groups the two - everything imaginable is new, so no, it isn't a tuned SL55.
*#turbinas#*
Dec 05, 2007, 2:50 PM
It's time to make my entry.
I think that BMW Z4 M Roadster is allright. If it isn't SKR let me know.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/bmwz4m06_14.jpg
Specs:
EngineType:Inline-6
Displacement cu in (cc):198 (3246)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM:343(252) / 7900
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:269(365) / 4900
Redline at RPM:8000
Brakes & TiresBrakes F/R:ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R:225/45 ZR18 - 255/40 ZR18
Driveline:Rear Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in:160.4 × 69.5 × 50.8
Weight lb (kg):3273 (1485)
Performance
Acceleration 0-60 mph s:5
Top Speed mph (km/h):155 (250) - electronically limited
Source: SCF
leka-S
Dec 05, 2007, 3:03 PM
There is no part which groups the two - everything imaginable is new, so no, it isn't a tuned SL55.
Isn't McLaren a Mercedes home tuner ??? It's called Mercedes SLR McLaren
If the McLaren isn't a tuned car , then the GTX1 isn't either
astonmartin138
Dec 05, 2007, 3:09 PM
McLaren is a seperate company which happened to work with Mercedes in a partnership. They did a lot of race cars in the 20th century along with the F1 which I am sure you are familiar with. McLaren is British. Mercedes is German.
SamGTR
Dec 05, 2007, 5:08 PM
^ Exactly, they are two comapnies building a car, which is a production car and not a tuned car in any way. The GTX1 is a tuned Ford GT, which isnt even a production car anyway as far as I know.
leka-S
Dec 05, 2007, 5:21 PM
How can two companies build a production car ???
McLaren took the SL55 , tuned it , and now Mercedes sells it as it's car .
You know what ... will just let SKR decide !!!
S-Tune_S1
Dec 05, 2007, 5:37 PM
^^Mclaren is not a tuning company . put that in you head .
the SLR is a new car . it has only a small connection (maybe only the engine block) to do with the SL55 . rest of the car is new .
It was designed together by partnership between mclaren and mercedes to build this car .
SKR34
Dec 05, 2007, 7:21 PM
Regarding the SLR, it is in. Why? Because Mercedes made and sold that same one, with no tuning. It maybe a tuned SL55 but that's what rebadging/crossover is.
The GTX1 is not in because Ford did not make it themselves. They may have authorized it but that's as far as it goes.
Everyone else is fine.
millmAn
Dec 06, 2007, 11:35 PM
Turbocharged Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 122 (1998)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 260(194) / 5300
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 260(353) / 2500-5300
Weight lb (kg): 2990 (1356)
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: 5.5
http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/122/Saturn%20Sky%20Redline.jpg
Attaus
Dec 06, 2007, 11:52 PM
That's the Vision SLR concept car from 1999. This is the original gangster.
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/slr_roadster.asp
Here's my entry. I don't know if it qualifies 'cause I'm not sure about that Spetemper 2007 production-thing.
Fisker Tramonto
Type: V8, Supercharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 332 (5439)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 610(455) / 5800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 650(881) / 2200-4700
Weight lb (kg): 4205 (1909)
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 3.6
Top Speed mph (km/h): 202 (325) - electronically limited
Base Price: $296,775
I'm going to keeeel yoouuu!!! Here I am looking for a great picture of a Tramonto and you steal my thunder.. damnit.. lol
Bentley Azure.. BALLER STATUS!!
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8783/bentleyazurezu0.jpg
Twin turbocharged V8
Displacement: 6.8L (6,761cc)
Power bhp at RPM: 450 @ 4,100
Torque lb-ft at RPM: 645 @ 1,800
Weight lb: 5,401
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: 5.6
Top Speed: 168 mph
I think that the horsepower number is not only underrated, but because the compression is so low (7.8:1), it really loses that extra power. With normal compression (9 or so) I could see no problems pushing 700 at the crank.
sohcvtec
Dec 06, 2007, 11:59 PM
Honda S2000http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/s200006_01.jpg
Type: Inline-4
Displacement cu in (cc): 131 (2157)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 237(177) / 7800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 162(220) / 6800
Redline at RPM: 8000
Kaoss
Dec 08, 2007, 1:22 PM
Volkswagen Eos
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/eos06_03.jpg
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/eos06_09.jpg
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/eos06_inter2.jpg
I-6
250hp@6300rpm
236lb-ft torque@2500rpm
Displacement cu in (cc): 194 (3189)
3751lb
FF
0-60mph 7 seconds
SKR34
Dec 09, 2007, 12:52 PM
Update:
TBR, sorry but I can't accept your entry. It's not a production model.
ŘЇĆĦ0984
Dec 09, 2007, 1:36 PM
Dodge Viper SRT10
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z100/Rich0984/Dodge-Viper_SRT10_2003_1024x768_wal.jpg
Production 2003-2007
Engine: 90º V 10
Engine Location: Front , longitudinally mounted
Configuration: aluminum alloy block and head
Displacement: 8.277 liter / 505.1 cu in
Bore / Stroke: 102.4 mm (4 in) / 100.6 mm (4 in)
Compression ratio: 9.6:1
Valvetrain: 2 valves / cylinder, OHV
Fuel feed: Multi Point Fuel injection
Aspiration: Naturally Aspirated
Chassis/body: composite body on backbone tubular spaceframe
Front suspension: double wishbones, coil springs, gas charged rebound adjustable shock absorbers, anti-roll bar
Rear suspension: double wishbones, toe-control links, coil springs, gas charged rebound adjustable shock absorbers, anti-roll bar
Steering: rack-and-pinion, power assisted
Brakes: vented discs, all-round, ABS
Gearbox: 6 speed Manual
Drive Rear wheel drive
Weight: 1536 kilo / 3386.3 lbs
Length: / Width / Height 4459 mm (175.6 in) / 1911 mm (75.2 in) / 1210 mm (47.6 in)
Wheelbase: / Track (fr/r) 2510 mm (98.8 in) / 1469 mm (57.8 in) / 1547 mm (60.9 in)
Power: 500 bhp / 373 KW @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 712 Nm / 525 ft lbs @ 4200 rpm
BHP/Liter: 60 bhp / liter
Power to weight ratio: 0.33 bhp / kg
0-60 mph Acceleration: 3.9 s
leka-S
Dec 09, 2007, 4:02 PM
Ok SKR (fu) :D
Then I choose the Shelby GT-H Convertible
Engine..........4.6L V8
Power..........325bhp
Torque.........447Nm
0-60mph.......5sec
Top Speed....N/A
Weight.........N/A
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/11/gthconv08_01.jpg
SKR34
Dec 10, 2007, 2:14 PM
It's still against the rules. It's a modded Mustang.
http://www.shelbyautos.com/gt-h.asp
Attaus
Dec 10, 2007, 5:31 PM
The Z4M would also be modified by.. *drum roll*.. M factory! oooo burnnn..
SKR34
Dec 10, 2007, 5:43 PM
Oh I just realized that. Thanks Attaus.
Keep in mind, I'm fairly new to making competitions.
TBR 427
Dec 10, 2007, 7:44 PM
Update:
TBR, sorry but I can't accept your entry. It's not a production model.
ahhhhh dang!
I thought I'd snuck through....gotta look for a dealer who sells one:-k
leka-S
Dec 11, 2007, 8:40 AM
Ok SKR ... you suck !!!
You have to accept this : Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet
Engine.........5.5L Supercharged V8
Power.........582bhp
Torque........800Nm
0-60mph......4.0sec
Top Speed...300Km/h (186mph) - electronically limited
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/clkdtmc05_02.jpg
astonmartin138
Dec 11, 2007, 11:39 AM
Isn't accepted again. It can't be tuned by an in house tuning company, like AMG. READ THE RULES.
hyphon12
Dec 11, 2007, 2:34 PM
Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/09/gallardos06_12.jpg
Specifications
Engine
Type: V10
Displacement cu in (cc): 303 (4961)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 520(382) / 8000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 376(510) / 4250
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 235/35 ZR19 - 295/30 ZR19
Driveline: All Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 167.7 × 74.1 × 46.2
Weight lb (kg): 3460 (1570)
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 4.3
Top Speed mph (km/h): 195 (314)
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a. (17.0)
*#turbinas#*
Dec 11, 2007, 3:24 PM
So i'm out? OMG!
astonmartin138
Dec 11, 2007, 4:31 PM
Damn you hyphon - that might just rival the Aston :P.
SKR34
Dec 11, 2007, 5:19 PM
Leka. You have one more chance. If your next entry doesn't qualify, then you're disqualified.
leka-S
Dec 12, 2007, 12:05 PM
It should qualify !!! You accepted the McLaren (in-house of MB) so you should accept AMG
astonmartin138
Dec 12, 2007, 12:28 PM
It should qualify !!! You accepted the McLaren (in-house of MB) so you should accept AMG
MCLAREN IS NOT AN IN HOUSE TUNING COMPANY OF MERCEDES. IT IS ITS OWN COMPANY AND IN NO WAY OWNED BY MERCEDES.
leka-S
Dec 12, 2007, 12:36 PM
It's Owned By Mb You ***** . It Over 50% Mercedes' : It's In-house
*#turbinas#*
Dec 12, 2007, 2:37 PM
So i'm out? OMG!
Oh. Here's my new entry then. I hope to be okay.
Audi RS4 cabriolet
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/rs4cabrio06_08.jpg
EngineType:V8
Displacement cu in (cc):254 (4163)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM:420(323) / 7800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:317(430) / 5500
Redline at RPM:8250
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R:ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R:255/35 R19
Driveline:All Wheel
DriveExterior Dimensions & WeightLength × Width × Height in:177.6 × 70.7 × 54.2
Weight lb (kg):4066 (1845)
Performance
Acceleration 0-60 mph s:4.7
Top Speed mph (km/h):155 (250) - electronically limited
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km):n.a.
astonmartin138
Dec 12, 2007, 2:55 PM
It's Owned By Mb You ***** . It Over 50% Mercedes' : It's In-house
Actually, Mercedes only own 40% of its RACING team. That doesn't mean it is owned by them. Just get over it and get a legible entry.
SamGTR
Dec 12, 2007, 3:27 PM
It should qualify !!! You accepted the McLaren (in-house of MB) so you should accept AMG
It's Owned By Mb You ***** . It Over 50% Mercedes' : It's In-house
McLaren is not an in house tuner! It is a seperate comapany, who now happen to be partly owned by Mercedes! AMG is the in house tuner of Mercedes, and in the rules it said in house tuners arent allowed, SKR even gave AMG as an example!!! You are in the wrong, so accept it and read things properly in the future.
astonmartin138
Dec 12, 2007, 3:42 PM
McLaren is not an in house tuner! It is a seperate comapany, who now happen to be partly owned by Mercedes! AMG is the in house tuner of Mercedes, and in the rules it said in house tuners arent allowed, SKR even gave AMG as an example!!! You are in the wrong, so accept it and read things properly in the future.
Thank you Sam. I thought he was a lost cause :rolleyes:.
leka-S
Dec 12, 2007, 4:16 PM
Ok .... my last chance then .... Aston Martin DB9 Volante
Engine........6.0L V12
Power........450bhp
Torque.......570Nm
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/11/db9volante07_02.jpg
astonmartin138
Dec 12, 2007, 4:21 PM
Oh for god sakes Leka, SKR34 already entered that!
leka-S
Dec 12, 2007, 5:34 PM
Sorry .... fixed now
SKR34
Dec 16, 2007, 12:40 PM
11h, 19 min left for entries.
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