Thats right folks, and you thought 255 was fast. For some of you out there, the name Vector brings to mind a low slung, super fast, wedge shaped monster that sadly died out before it had a chance at stardom.

Well, it is the 21st Century, and Vector wants to make a statement with the WX8.

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Before your eyes, you see a prototype version of a car that will be very much real. It might evoke some Japanese thoughts, or perhaps a batmobile. All in all, it makes you take a step back, especially afrer looking at the stats.

Standard Twin turbo V8 power: 600 bhp
Upgraded single Supercharger V8 power: 750 bhp
Shocking twin supercharger V8 power: 1850 bhp

To keep things interesting I will give the performance stats for the twin super: (mfg est.)

0-60: 2.5 seconds
1/4 mile: 10 seconds
Top Speed: 275+mph
Top Speed (Bonneville Gears): 300 mph

This is Vector, and they could be crazy enough to do it. No pricing or production announced, but the claim that it will be done. Sure it could be all flash and bang, but wouldn't it be something.

Twin supercharged V8 giving 1850 hp? How reliable is this thing going to be? What RON petrol are they using? MPG?

And those supra headlights look stupid.

Americans have done it before, the SSC Ultimate Aero.
I believe they can do it again. I'm putting hopes on this. 1850bhp sounds insane.

The supra like front looks okay.

It won't be....and they're probably going to make a mockery of the once proud american company of Vector..

The W8 was an AMAZING car..Amazing!!! and it qas absolutely GORGEOUS..

The Wx8...looks disgusting, and it's going to drop cylinders faster than a top fuel dragster and probably get 1 mpg..IF that..

300mph..I'd believe it!!! and yeah those numbers aren't irrational...but really..I'd prefer to see someone throw a 1500HP Viper V10 into a nice sleek car..and run a 300mph run at the flats.

Whats the point? 155 mph is more than enough. The only thing that cars should improve on is acceration. No body ever reaches top speed on roads. 300mph...if you add wings to it, you can say to people you have an airplane...
I dont see top speed as important as acceration...but 1/4mile in 10 sec..thats insane.

I would think that it would pull a faster 1/4 time than that. 10 sec is impressive, but hell my dad had a 69 Camaro that ran that.

Granted, it didnt go 300mph...but still.

Why doesnt someone just top them all off and put a Top fuel dragster engine in a Viper and do 898165132185mph

Unless you count the speed that the chassis would twist into a prezel, it would be more like 0 mph.

Wow this is awesome, not the fact that its 300mph possibility( cause i could care less) but the fact that vector may be going back into business is awesome.

why the hell use supra headlights??

Oh god, Vector's building an engine again.

...Someone alert the local fire department.

:p

I also like the rattle can spray job, gives it that Walmart feel.

It looks like a mix of Supra, Diablo and a Camaro Z28.
I dont like it!...

And to me, the fastest ROAD going car is the Bugatti Veyron!....
Has the "SSC Ultimate Aero" even been driven over 400km/h by others than the official team?....
The Veyron was driven by James May in Top Gear, and got over the magic 400 km/h

That's dumb.

The Veyron will still be a better car, even if this is faster. It happened with the SSC Ultimate Aero, build a wedge, stick in the biggest most powerful V8 we can find and go set some records.

Image was not incorporated into the design room, this looks hideous. There is no new technology here either. People have been able to pull that much power from an engine for years.

The Veyron is at least different. I mean, how many other supercars have an engine like the Veyrons'? (yet, anyway)

I hope it costs lots of money to fund the project and then doesn't even go 210mph.

Chris.

looks good . but i doubt anybody buying it would most probably go for the 600 or 750 option .

that car would just explode after getting into the 2nd gear

It looks like a mix of Supra, Diablo and a Camaro Z28.
I dont like it!...

And to me, the fastest ROAD going car is the Bugatti Veyron!....
Has the "SSC Ultimate Aero" even been driven over 400km/h by others than the official team?....
The Veyron was driven by James May in Top Gear, and got over the magic 400 km/h

Is Top Gear a legitimate body of record keeping?

NO

Guiness tested the Aero, it beat the Veyron.

Go get on it's websites', become a fanboy, god know's you will. :rolleyes:
That's dumb.

The Veyron will still be a better car, even if this is faster. It happened with the SSC Ultimate Aero, build a wedge, stick in the biggest most powerful V8 we can find and go set some records.

Image was not incorporated into the design room, this looks hideous. There is no new technology here either. People have been able to pull that much power from an engine for years.

The Veyron is at least different. I mean, how many other supercars have an engine like the Veyrons'? (yet, anyway)

I hope it costs lots of money to fund the project and then doesn't even go 210mph.

Chris.

A 16 cylinder motor is nothing new kid.

And since when the hell does "image", i.e., the *ultimate* proof you're a poser in the car world, have *anything* to do with speed records?

The Vector has two things the Veyron doesn't have, a sense of humor and a sense of fun.

The Ultimate Aero's motor is based on the chevy LS6. Vector is using the C6 Z06 LS7 motor in this one. Bigger motor....bigger power.

MPG, reliability, and octane number don't matter. Supposedly its the same guy that has always been building the vectors. It'll be interesting to see if this makes into production and if it will give the current top speed record a run for its money and looks.

I doubt that much is going to buy it.
The purpose of this car is to break the topspeed record, currently.
So, there's basically not much point to buy this car unless you wanna hit 300mph daily.

I would think that it would pull a faster 1/4 time than that. 10 sec is impressive, but hell my dad had a 69 Camaro that ran that.

Granted, it didnt go 300mph...but still.It's gearing. To make a car go faster you have to sacrifice it's acceleration.. and vise versa.

Right. Theres no way that thing will ever get to 255mph, imo. Aero Dynamics will rape em, if they have the power to go > 255mph.Really? And you're an aerodynamics expert? You don't think that this thing will spend a LOT of time in a wind tunnel? lol

that car would just explode after getting into the 2nd gearThat was just stupid...

I doubt that much is going to buy it.
The purpose of this car is to break the topspeed record, currently.
So, there's basically not much point to buy this car unless you wanna hit 300mph daily.The purpose of buying it is the same as the purpose of owning a Countach or a Testarossa in the 80's... Raw power and raw looks....

1/4 mille in 10 seconds with 1850HP , they are kiding or what?! the koenigsegg and ultima can do the 1/4 in 9.9s with half of the power.
well any ways if the top version is real it should drink even more than the veyron , you should have in the maximum 5 minutes of fun...

^^^ Swedish , you ever heard of a little thing called 'breaking traction'?

This car is once again proof that anything is possible with 4 wheels & a chassis.

As for the stats being converted into actual reality on the strip or road , time will tell. Actually , time can't speak so wait for an actual human to drive it.

1/4 mille in 10 seconds with 1850HP , they are kiding or what?! the koenigsegg and ultima can do the 1/4 in 9.9s with half of the power.
well any ways if the top version is real it should drink even more than the veyron , you should have in the maximum 5 minutes of fun...You don't pay attention do you? Read my reply to Aaron RIGHT ABOVE YOURS!

1/4 mille in 10 seconds with 1850HP , they are kiding or what?! the koenigsegg and ultima can do the 1/4 in 9.9s with half of the power.
well any ways if the top version is real it should drink even more than the veyron , you should have in the maximum 5 minutes of fun...

Do you have any idea what the term "Traction" means??

well any ways , 300MPH could be possible but I can imagine two places do do that boneville and that VW very long test track that i don't remeber the name.
Any one have the Cx?
Oh i forget about traction...OK there is allright no one died , it's using road tires or slick ones?

The Vector has two things the Veyron doesn't have, a sense of humor and a sense of fun.

Neither do German cars, but that doesn't make them worse than the opposition.

well any ways , 300MPH could be possible but I can imagine two places do do that boneville and that VW very long test track that i don't remeber the name.
Any one have the Cx?
Oh i forget about traction...OK there is allright no one died , it's using road tires or slick ones?

Well let's see, it's a road car, which means it has to have road-legal tires, so, I'm going with non-slicks.

Barring a few aftermarket tires, there aren't many road-legal slicks on cars, let alone any from a factory built car.

I heard about this ones , mickey thompson street legal slicks , they are not real slicks but almost.

any ways i didn't like this car it's too unfinished too souless , too me , yeah it could get to the 300mph , this will problaby be another veyron not a trackmonster , but to me this is just part of what a supercar needs to have to be a supercar.

Actually they are real slicks. We call them cut groove slicks.

Is Top Gear a legitimate body of record keeping?

NO

Guiness tested the Aero, it beat the Veyron.

Go get on it's websites', become a fanboy, god know's you will. :rolleyes:


A 16 cylinder motor is nothing new kid.

And since when the hell does "image", i.e., the *ultimate* proof you're a poser in the car world, have *anything* to do with speed records?

The Vector has two things the Veyron doesn't have, a sense of humor and a sense of fun.
Do you have any idea what the term "Traction" means??
Well let's see, it's a road car, which means it has to have road-legal tires, so, I'm going with non-slicks.



Barring a few aftermarket tires, there aren't many road-legal slicks on cars, let alone any from a factory built car.





Damn man, Ghalos; why the f*ck do you always have to be so damn arrogant and condescending when you are commeting on someone? Whats your problem, do you think people post their opinion to piss you off and hear how rude you can comment on them? Try to act a little mature, and write in a decent tone - you're not the king of this place!

Anyway, on to the car. A really looks ugly like sh*t, and I am having a hard time figuering out why they couldn't design something a liiiiitle more original than that bunch of ripoffs they pulled on that...thing - I mean, it's been a while since they showed a new car.
And as someone said, I highly doubt, that it has a decent reliability, a supercharged V8 pushing 1850 bhp?! -Yea, thats gonna last! I'd take they Veyron any day, I don't think it's likely, that that ugly thing will beat German engineering!


And Ghalos; by the way - CTD didn't say that Top Gear was the same as a proof, it was just a reference to the program, and a referance that you can see for yourself - that isn't exactly the case with the SSC - That was the point!

I agree.

The Supra font end doesn't really work, it looks no-where near as good as those headlights do when fitted to say...A Supra?!

Which begs the question. If the design of the car is nothing special, what's the point? If they're using the car to somewhat 'homologate' the engine/powerplant, it needs to be more original.

Otherwise, Vector may well have just kept the Supra and modified it by spannering that engine in, then adjusted it to be the fastest car. Nobody would applaud that, especially us lot. I can't see the point of the car myself, it needs more justification.

Chris

Damn man, Ghalos; why the f*ck do you always have to be so damn arrogant and condescending when you are commeting on someone? Whats your problem, do you think people post their opinion to piss you off and hear how rude you can comment on them? Try to act a little mature, and write in a decent tone - you're not the king of this place!
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I'm so happy that I'm not the only one who thinks the same thing. "nerd herded" HA noob.

The thing about Ghalos being the arrogant one... I agree. Every other of his sentences is snobby and uptight...

Actually they are real slicks. We call them cut groove slicks.
uhhh cool , anyways i wouldn't like to use slicks in a wet road :D.

and C.A.R you said every thing , thanks.

After all the venom from this thread has drained down the sewer now ......

I can say that the car looks nice, not nice enough for the exhorbanant price that will most likely be charged. The performance (estimated) is impressive. I hope the fare well with it. I am sure we will all be watching closely.

I believe this car will never hold up to the Vector name in terms of what they used to represent (make of that what you will) but , It is good to see the namesake make a return to the auto world.

I remember when I was a kid , I thought the Vector was faster than a speeding bullet cause it just looked the business.

But 1800+hp? Now that's just steroid abuse.

I just have to say this...

Frewin , why the bloody hell did you bother posting in here? Honestly , why is it that you now just whinge all the time?

I'm not defending Ghalos & I never will...he's big enough to defend himself & knows how I feel towards him but seriously , if you don't get infracted for that utterly pointless post , I'll eat my cat.

Now read my pm that I just sent you.

And Ghalos; by the way - CTD didn't say that Top Gear was the same as a proof, it was just a reference to the program, and a referance that you can see for yourself - that isn't exactly the case with the SSC - That was the point!

exatly.... Ghalos, wee all know you don't like Top Gear!...and yes sometimes they do have some brain dead shows!(but really good fun!)... but that DOES NOT mean that everything is crap!.... Open your mind!...but as simonthevimon says: "you can see for yourself"... they have an speed-o-meter that shows the speed that James May is traveling in the Veyron!.. so your reply was evenmore brain dead than some of the Top Gear Shows!... because you haven't even seen the clip im refering to!.......
and did i say that SSC Aero wasn't the fastest producktion car?... NO!.. i said: "And to me, the fastest ROAD going car is the Bugatti Veyron!"
R.O.A.D!... that means a car that can be driven at a normal street, whit trafic!.... not a car, whit the gear set specialy for 400 Km/h!...
as Monkeyfkker writes:
"It's gearing. To make a car go faster you have to sacrifice it's acceleration.. and vise versa"
any normal person can drive the Veyron over 400km/h (on a closed strip of course!)... as James May shows!..

I hope your man/woman enough too admit your made a mistake!

And to me, the fastest ROAD going car is the Bugatti Veyron!....
Has the "SSC Ultimate Aero" even been driven over 400km/h by others than the official team?....
The Veyron was driven by James May in Top Gear, and got over the magic 400 km/h

then you must be blind and ignprant AT THE SAME TIME!!! it is officially the worlds fastest car, and guess what, the veyron never has held an official record for anything, so your theory goes to ****.

That's dumb.

The Veyron will still be a better car, even if this is faster. It happened with the SSC Ultimate Aero, build a wedge, stick in the biggest most powerful V8 we can find and go set some records.

but sticking a waste of space 16cyl 4 turbo engine is better than utulising a small engine for what it is? i guess they couldnt do that so they just bolted 2 twin turbo v8's together.

Image was not incorporated into the design room, this looks hideous. There is no new technology here either. People have been able to pull that much power from an engine for years.

so why the hell is the veyron so much better than everything else on the market if power isnt everything, because the ccx and the mclaren f1 are only a few mph behind it,

The Veyron is at least different. I mean, how many other supercars have an engine like the Veyrons'? (yet, anyway)


most supercar manufacturers have the sense not to use such a under engineered engine and actually put some effort into building a good one.

And Ghalos; by the way - CTD didn't say that Top Gear was the same as a proof, it was just a reference to the program, and a referance that you can see for yourself - that isn't exactly the case with the SSC - That was the point!

if the ssc never reached the top speed it would not be official, they cant just ask guiness to close their eyes while they do the run, also note that the ssc did that speed on a public highway, not a closed high speed test track.

The thing about Ghalos being the arrogant one... I agree. Every other of his sentences is snobby and uptight...

wow frewilly bitching about something again, anybody surprised? i know frewin why dont you get yourself banned permanently and give the rest of us a break.

1-I've seen the clip of the Veyron on TG going 250+.

2-Top Gear is not the first major journalistic group to go 250+ in it, Road & Track did it over a year before Mr. May hopped into its seat and guess what picture was riiight on the cover of the article? A digital board with "254mph" on it.

3-CTD, Top Gear is not an official, licensed, record-keeping organization, Guiness is. And they've tested both cars, guess which one was faster?! My point, to you, Simon, and Frewin, even though he's the biggest prick on here and wasn't even part of the conversation anyways, is that even though there's no video of the SSC going that fast, it still did so try to avoid in the future saying:

...Has the "SSC Ultimate Aero" even been driven over 400km/h by others than the official team?....
The Veyron was driven by James May in Top Gear, and got over the magic 400 km/h

Because IT HAS BEEN.

And CTD, if you want to argue with me about "what I meant" when you wrote something, NEXT TIME, you might want to SAY BEFORE HAND how you define a road car. Because by your own definition, half the hard-edged sportscars we love aren't road cars to you.

Despite the fact that governments all over disagree with your single opinion.

/rant.

And btw, that's how you're a condescending prick. :p

and Frewin, even though he's the biggest prick on here

lol thats brilliant, come on ghalos ban him, you know you want to.:D:D:D

lol thats brilliant, come on ghalos ban him, you know you want to.:D:D:D

Quit humping my leg.

People need to put one thing in their head , TG is just a big joke , just it , yes I like them but for one reason they meke me laught , but they can make some good reviews but only in a pessoal and emotional way they tests are too unprecise to some one could truth in they numbers.

skyline_luva19-

That has to be some of the funniest stuff I've read on this forum so far.

Let me break it down for you.

"then you must be blind and ignprant AT THE SAME TIME!!! it is officially the worlds fastest car, and guess what, the veyron never has held an official record for anything, so your theory goes to ****."

Okay... You seem a little highly strung considering that this is a discussion thread about a totally different car. Your comments come accorss very immature, it could just be that you're typing too fast or that you are just 7 years old. Either way, I am no-one to judge, but you come accross as the 'ignprant' one here. The Ultimate Aero SSC is a lot less luxurious than any Bugatti ever made, and to justify the Aero as a better car is gonna be a hard task.

Secondly, how can you call the Veyrons' engine under-developed? The W16 is an incredible mechanical acheivement, I'd love to see the Americans build one.

Why is the engine a waste of space? In case you haven't noticed, the car was built around the engine, not the other way around. They didn't just lower a V8 in there afterwards like the American car manufacturers used to, and still do in some circumstances.

The Veyron is 'so' much better than everything else on the market for the following reasons:

>It's easy to drive
>It's more luxurious than any other 200mph+ car
>It's not sacrificed comfort or weight
>It's an engineering masterpiece
>You could, if you wanted, drive it everyday.
>It's exclusive
>It's an icon
>It's faster than anything on the road
>It looks fantastic
>It's revived Bugatti

I could go on. The Ultimate - oh christ I can't even be bothered to type it again - The 'Cheesewedge' is as ugly as sin, and as much as the design team tried, it couldn't seriously be driven everyday.

The SSC team brag on about how it has all these comforts, DVD, elect. windows, reversing camera, hand stitched interior etc. But it all fails to equal the elegance of the Veyron. Look at the cabin of a Veyron, then the SSC. The Veyron has a large open cockpit with luxurious trim, whereas (even though they tried) the SSC has a really cramped, tight (and I bet hot) cabin. It has racing buckets, hardly the most comfortable place to sit. I love the way they go on about how it could house a 6' 7" man weighing up to 300lbs (basically an American), as if it's an important aspect that a supercar is able to be driven by a fat b*****, as if they would have set a record with that!

It's nothing in the face of the Veyron, and neither is this Vector. It's a crying shame that anyone should think so.

Chris.

Secondly, how can you call the Veyrons' engine under-developed? The W16 is an incredible mechanical acheivement, I'd love to see the Americans build one.

im sure american manufacturers have more taste than to use 2 v8's when 1 is good enough if you know what you are doing.

The Veyron is 'so' much better than everything else on the market for the following reasons:

>It's easy to drive
i never knew you had driven one
>It's more luxurious than any other 200mph+ car
becasue comfort is what supercars are about :confused:
>It's not sacrificed comfort or weight
its fat and heavy
>It's an engineering masterpiece
its 2 twin turbo v8's that needs 10 radiators, elaborate how its a masterpiece?
>You could, if you wanted, drive it everyday.
if you wanted you could drive an f40 or a radical everyday
>It's exclusive
No its not
>It's an icon
no its not thats hilarious.
>It's faster than anything on the road
ssc holds the record for the fastest production car.
>It looks fantastic
its a bathtub on wheels
>It's revived Bugatti
no its created an army fanboys for a dead company who have not made a good car in many years

I could go on. The Ultimate - oh christ I can't even be bothered to type it again - The 'Cheesewedge' is as ugly as sin, and as much as the design team tried, it couldn't seriously be driven everyday.

The SSC team brag on about how it has all these comforts, DVD, elect. windows, reversing camera, hand stitched interior etc. But it all fails to equal the elegance of the Veyron. Look at the cabin of a Veyron, then the SSC. The Veyron has a large open cockpit with luxurious trim, whereas (even though they tried) the SSC has a really cramped, tight (and I bet hot) cabin. It has racing buckets, hardly the most comfortable place to sit. I love the way they go on about how it could house a 6' 7" man weighing up to 300lbs (basically an American), as if it's an important aspect that a supercar is able to be driven by a fat b*****, as if they would have set a record with that!

It's nothing in the face of the Veyron, and neither is this Vector. It's a crying shame that anyone should think so.

Chris.

please remove your head from your ass, the veyron is not the fastest road legal car or production car, its not the most luxurious car, its not the best handling car, its nothing, it was unofficially the fastest car for a while, the mclaren f1 held that title for years and years. something bugatti wish they could say.

you seem to be totally blind to any car thats not followed by an army of fan boys, and people who generaly know nothing about cars.

and ghalos i am not humping your leg, i found what you said funny because its about time somebody said it.

^^ C.A.R good point about the veyron , but just be a little less anti-american.
in a road use , it's preatty hard that something could beat the bugatti in all this aspects even the Koenigsegg (come close even in the interior but still a little cramped and not soo luxury as the veyron) , and yes the veyron is really a great piece of tecnology art.

I was going to have a lot of fun in this thread but I'm just tired of it.

Bloody hell.

This thread is rapidly failing.

Once again proving that SCF simply cannot conduct a civil conversation between...

A: The Veyron & anything.
B: The SSC & anything.
C: The Z06 & anything.

It's just not about the Vector anymore is it.

CTD , you really should be a Crash Test Dummy. You're already an epic dummy so you're 1/3 of the way there.

Cooper , you contributed nothing to this thread. Simon , chill the hell out. C.A.R. , shut up. You know nothing.

...NOW SMARTEN THE FIRETRUCK UP EVERYONE & BLOODY RELAX.

firetruck?!
what i missed here?

would you want to take that round a track at any sort of speed....no.
its a publicity thing, theres no way it can go 300mph, maybe theoretically, but thats like saying, theoretically George bush is clever, but we 'Mis-underestimated' him.....

Does anyone else think this car looks like a Camaro? I'd be interested to see how the aerodynamics hold up nearing 300 mph. The tiniest little error will send that car flying at that speed, and I don't see a parachute on the back to slow it down... I'd also be curious to see how the tires hold up during acceleration...hmmm.

would you want to take that round a track at any sort of speed....no.
its a publicity thing, theres no way it can go 300mph, maybe theoretically, but thats like saying, theoretically George bush is clever, but we 'Mis-underestimated' him.....How exactly do you know that? Just by looking at it you can say that?

Does anyone else think this car looks like a Camaro? I'd be interested to see how the aerodynamics hold up nearing 300 mph. The tiniest little error will send that car flying at that speed, and I don't see a parachute on the back to slow it down... I'd also be curious to see how the tires hold up during acceleration...hmmm.See above. How do you know what kind of tires are under it?

Secondly, how can you call the Veyrons' engine under-developed? The W16 is an incredible mechanical acheivement, I'd love to see the Americans build one.

It took that "mechanical masterpiece" FIVE years of constant engineering workarounds to get around the heat issues that thing had. And what was the "mechanical masterpiece" answer to that problem? Add radiators. Lots and lots of radiators. THEN, add no cover on it whatsoever so that when it rains heavily, not that a Veyron will likely see much less than perfect weather, the motor gets completely drenched in acidic rain, grime covers the oh-so-precious engine, and voila...Nothing special about that in my book.

Why is the engine a waste of space? In case you haven't noticed, the car was built around the engine, not the other way around. They didn't just lower a V8 in there afterwards like the American car manufacturers used to, and still do in some circumstances.

But, which is easier? Which makes more sense?

The Veyron is 'so' much better than everything else on the market for the following reasons:

>It's easy to drive
If you want easy to drive, then what's the point in looking at a 1 million dollar car with 1,000bhp? It fills a gap that never existed. Making it by my definition of not filling a gap, a useless piece of engineering on four wheels.

>It's more luxurious than any other 200mph+ car
Who cares when you can go buy an SL65AMG and have the limiter removed via an FIA racing license, which, if you're doing those speeds you sure oughta have in the first place. And you can do that for 1/4 the price, it's just as if not more luxurious, and cracks 200mph.

>It's not sacrificed comfort or weight
It's a sports car that weighs over 4,000lbs (that alone is a joke) because they didn't skimp on the fancy stuff...Like a 4grand turn signal stalk...

>It's an engineering masterpiece
Like those diamond encrusted gauges...Oh yeah, sure helps the performance. Or the carbon-ceramic brakes everyone brags about that eventually fade after 10 continuous stops from 150+. Meanwhile, the car will do wellllll beyond that speed. Great engineering alright.


>You could, if you wanted, drive it everyday.
True, that's why I'd buy one. It'd be an awesome road trip car.
>It's exclusive
So is any supercar. It's hardly something that should be used in the decision making scenario of a car enthusiast.

>It's an icon
Only because it's got "Bugatti" on the badge.

>It's faster than anything on the road
SSC...But, this is a point evvvery fanboy brings up, and fails to remember that in order to hit it's top speed the car's steering wheel cannot turn more than 15 degree's off-center or the on board computer automatically takes it out of "Top Speed Mode".

>It looks fantastic
That's your opinion, not a fact. I don't think it's awful looking, but it's no 360 Modena or 575M

>It's revived Bugatti
This right here made me "Lol" at work. Dude, Bugatti went UNDER because of this thing after a few months of being out.

I love the way they go on about how it could house a 6' 7" man weighing up to 300lbs (basically an American)
Seriously, that's just stereotyping.



The Vector and SSC are not direct competitors to the Veyron, there is no car the Bugatti has to fight against because there WAS no other company DUMB enough to build a really really reeaaaaaally fast luxury mobile when you can just buy an AMG Mercedes.

It fills no gap, it's record has been beaten already, and honestly, that's all it could really claim to fame.

Having said all of that, let's get back on topic.

The Vector is going to melt, because that's what Vector's do. Or at least, that's what their engines do. =P

You know, I don't know why I even bother to do it. I see this story and personally, I get excited at just the thoughts and the idea that this car might be a reality. So thinking happily I make a thread about it to inform you all.

Then most of you go on here and say its not as good as "whatever" car, or it will "never" do it, oh and my favorite is how some of you actually believe that you are smarter than you really are, and point out your "scienturdific" facts.

I was hoping for some fun/thought filled posts such as, "isn't it cool that they would be making this", "what a proposition,"or wow this is quite interesting and I hope they can do it." The thing is, a true automotive enthusiast would be excited. Why? Because no car that is available to the public can go upwards of 300 mph, nor are 1850 hp engines in production cars. Most of you are just full of hot air and self loving ego.

The SSC did the attempt on video(GO TO YOUTUBE) and they had the GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS there to do it, in fact SSC waited for them to come because of idiots like some of you. Who probably wouldn't even believe it happened.

James May drove the car at 250+. Congrats to him, but so did a bunch of other publications and don't forget the Veyron didn't get its record on a PUBLIC ACCESSABLE STREET. They had to do it on a CLOSED TESTING COURSE. A course the SSC didn't have access to because Bugatti knew what was coming. Oh and the SSC goes even faster than what it did.

I can guarantee that if this was made by some Japanesse company, or God forbid a European manufacturer, the response would have been so positive.

This is a very small company defying what most large companies don't dare to do. Some of cannot read either, the car in the picture is a PROTOTYPE version, not what it will look like. That means its not in its candy wrapper yet. This is what they plan to do, the car is there so that they don't just have sketches for the public.

Some of you guys are real morons and are what is bringing the quality of this site down.

:mad:

This thread turned into a bit of a flame, unfortunately. Anyways, onto the car....


I personally think you could do a 1/4 mile in at least under 9 seconds with 1800hp on street tires. The Veyron is far less powerful and manages a 10.2. The Vector should be able to beat it by a far larger margin, unless the wheelspin is so absurd that it can only use half the horsepower for the first 300ft of the track. Once again, does anyone know why the TVR Cerbera Speed 12 wasn't produced? The power could not be used fully on the street, therefore making it pointless. I have a feeling the Vector will not turn out. The claim is just a bit too "wild" if you ask me, kind of like how Barabus' "-60 in 1.67 seconds" claim turned out to be total bull.

The thing about Ghalos being the arrogant one... I agree. Every other of his sentences is snobby and uptight...

I thought you left:confused:

Do you have any idea what the term "Traction" means??
lmao, i would like to see it happen just for kicks

Well... I'm gonna chuck in my two cents before the flames fire up again.

This certainly is... interesting. As it sits right now, I'm not loving the look of the car, but I'm sure that will change; Vectors have always been super-sexy.

As for the performance, I hope they break 300, I really do, but in all honesty, I doubt they will. 300 is really really high number and, I don't know if this car has the aerodynamic slipperiness needed to break that; just look at the amount of frontal area. But then again, I'm no aero expert, and body tweaks are coming (hopefully).

A 300mph car would be awesome. The fact that it comes in the form of a nearly 2000hp road bomb is just f**ing badass.

Well, if the Vector turned out to be drivable on the road, did 300mph, and handled reasonably well it just might raise the bar again for supercars. It would be interesting, but as you said, I don't think it's going to happen.

Oh man, my eurotrash-alert just went bananas.

The claim is just a bit too "wild" if you ask me, kind of like how Barabus' "-60 in 1.67 seconds" claim turned out to be total bull.
I thought you left:confused:

who tested the Barabus TKR???? it it even in existence anymore?

Okay... You seem a little highly strung considering that this is a discussion thread about a totally different car. Your comments come accorss very immature, it could just be that you're typing too fast or that you are just 7 years old. Either way, I am no-one to judge, but you come accross as the 'ignprant' one here. The Ultimate Aero SSC is a lot less luxurious than any Bugatti ever made, and to justify the Aero as a better car is gonna be a hard task.
No, you're comments come across very immature, you're giving blind love to every car there's been a debate for..You don't have any hard evidence to support anything you SAY about any of these cars, yet you continue to argue and argue and argue..Would you PLEASE stop that, i understand you don't like the intelligent people on this board(s) decisions, but that doesn't mean you can just bicker with us for absolutely no reason just for the sake of wasting thread posting space.

"The SSC is less luxurious than any bugatti ever made"
Wow, you obviously don't know much.

One of my top 3 favorite cars of ALL time is the Bugatti EB110, it was the last REAL bugatti to hit the streets...Look at it's interior, it's disgusting. It's bland, flat one color, and looks like the inside of a poorly immitation columbian cessna.

The SSC's interior is about 2 x as luxurious as that cars for the simple fact that it's gauges don't take up 3/4s of the dash. So don't talk about what you don't know...PLEASE.


Secondly, how can you call the Veyrons' engine under-developed? The W16 is an incredible mechanical acheivement, I'd love to see the Americans build one.
The W16 isn't crap..A W configuration engine is nothing but a gimmick, it's not more effective, it's less effective..It restricts the cooling jackets like no other, and the layout is just plain silly.
Look at what it did in the Phaeton..Nothing..
Look a the W8's out there....Absolute garbage.

Mechanical achievement....Tell me how it's a mechanical achievement..HOW...More garbage opinions like your "GT-R is the pinnacle of automotive technology" nonsense.

Why is the engine a waste of space? In case you haven't noticed, the car was built around the engine, not the other way around. They didn't just lower a V8 in there afterwards like the American car manufacturers used to, and still do in some circumstances.

I'm affraid your wrong, the Engine was was built, and the design of the car was just ripped off from the 1990 Audi Avus concept....
you know..The 17 year old design they never used and decided to bring back because "the kids would like it"

Now if you want to bring up..."didn't just lower a V8 in there afterwards"

I'd like you to look at the Aston Martin V8 Vantage Supercharged version....You know..the 500HP 500ftlb vantage..The one with the Ford Twin supercharged motor...
I'd also like you to look at the Ultima GT-R, i'd also like you to look at the Mosler M900. and I'd also like you to look at the Ariel Atom, Caterham cars, every lotus, and of course the Radical Sv8, you know the car that ran a 6 minute ring lap?

Every car mentioned there was a car that had an engine dropped into it after the cars design.

Only 1 of those companies is American in origin. Yet how many of those cars are bad?

They seem to have the right idea there buddy..

You build a excellent car, then you pick the powerplant in which fits your application..

You don't build a retarded engine, then design a fat pig around it..

It doesn't work like that...
You might think the Enzo is like that, but it isn't, it's built from the engine, but it wasn't designed around the engine..Neither is the Mc12.

Actually the Veyron is the ONLY car i can think of that is a car, built around an engine.
Is it one of those "hey we made this, what are we gonna do with it? I don't know think of something" cars?

If so it loses even MORE respect in my book

The Veyron is 'so' much better than everything else on the market for the following reasons:

>It's easy to drive
Nothing is easy to drive at over 200mph, if you think so you're a damn fool who has never been at that speed.
>It's more luxurious than any other 200mph+ car
Like, the Zonda, or the CGT or the Enzo, or the new conti-GT, or the XJ220? If you think so...you're a damn fool.
>It's not sacrificed comfort or weight
No but it sacrificed looks for weight, and it sacrificed functionality for little kid appeal, and it sacrificed good engineering for "lets make it bigger" attitude
>It's an engineering masterpiece
There you go again......why?
>You could, if you wanted, drive it everyday.
And i could drive the SSC everyday, and the CGT, and the Enzo, and the Mclaren F1, and the XJ220, and pretty much every other 200mph car..Because I'm not a whiney girl who complains about tire noise and engine volume...
>It's exclusive
And a Mclaren F1 isn't?
>It's an icon
Yes, to people who don't understand the automotive enthusiast, just like the R34 Skyline, and 240SX, and every other 2f2f style car on the market featured in 20+ video games.
It's an icon for poor engineering, that's what it's an icon for.
>It's faster than anything on the road
Except the Daur 962, ultima GT-R, which can both match it's acceleration , any of the other faster cars around a road course (which is probably in the hundreds), the SSC and now the Vector..which are both faster in the top end, and soon the CCXR.
>It looks fantastic
lolololol0loll0llol
>It's revived Bugatti
No it's revived the VAG, Bugatti is dead, and now will never come back thanks to this monstrosity.

I could go on. The Ultimate - oh christ I can't even be bothered to type it again - The 'Cheesewedge' is as ugly as sin, and as much as the design team tried, it couldn't seriously be driven everyday.
And the bathtub is as fat as rosie o'donald, and the Volks-Audi-Gatti Veyron has as much bugatti spirit as purgatory.
Shall i continue?

The SSC team brag on about how it has all these comforts, DVD, elect. windows, reversing camera, hand stitched interior etc. But it all fails to equal the elegance of the Veyron.
Yes because when i think of elegance, i think of fat ugly car with gigantic wheels, 1001HP, AWD, and overheats.

Look at the cabin of a Veyron, then the SSC. The Veyron has a large open cockpit with luxurious trim,

Like a Fancy Mini-van!

whereas (even though they tried) the SSC has a really cramped, tight (and I bet hot) cabin. It has racing buckets, hardly the most comfortable place to sit.
Dag Yo!!! Maybe i should spend the quarter million i save on some pimped out leather seats with spinners in the headrests! then it'll be as cool as the bugatti.....Get over it.

I love the way they go on about how it could house a 6' 7" man weighing up to 300lbs (basically an American), as if it's an important aspect that a supercar is able to be driven by a fat b*****, as if they would have set a record with that!
Lol, Ok so a Fat ******* can't drive a good car without you raggin on it, but a rich ******* can drive a fat ******* car and it's ok?

Chris.

That is all

Yo Daddy.

I'd like to throw a bit of technical information into this thread, if I may.

It is an article from McLaren F1 designer Gorden Murray, and he talks about the technological and developmental differences between the F1 and the Veyron.

It's not a comparison, in that there is a winner in the end, but rather an insight into the hows and whats of both cars.

It's applicable as it talks about the effects of power and aerodynamics in high speed performance.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=7&article_id=3075&page_number=1

That's a great article timbit , it shows one thing a supercar isn't just top speed , just performance , just luxury or just design.A supercar is a blend in armony of all this aspects.

skyline_luva19-

That has to be some of the funniest stuff I've read on this forum so far.

Let me break it down for you.

"then you must be blind and ignprant AT THE SAME TIME!!! it is officially the worlds fastest car, and guess what, the veyron never has held an official record for anything, so your theory goes to ****."

Okay... You seem a little highly strung considering that this is a discussion thread about a totally different car. Your comments come accorss very immature, it could just be that you're typing too fast or that you are just 7 years old. Either way, I am no-one to judge, but you come accross as the 'ignprant' one here. The Ultimate Aero SSC is a lot less luxurious than any Bugatti ever made, and to justify the Aero as a better car is gonna be a hard task.

Secondly, how can you call the Veyrons' engine under-developed? The W16 is an incredible mechanical acheivement, I'd love to see the Americans build one.

Why is the engine a waste of space? In case you haven't noticed, the car was built around the engine, not the other way around. They didn't just lower a V8 in there afterwards like the American car manufacturers used to, and still do in some circumstances.

The Veyron is 'so' much better than everything else on the market for the following reasons:

>It's easy to drive
so you spend a gazillion $ because the car is eaisy to drive
>It's more luxurious than any other 200mph+ car
i prefer the SSC, and above that THE ZONDA F
>It's not sacrificed comfort or weight
thats why it weighs 4162LBS DRY so closer to 4300LBS+, very light car;)
>It's an engineering masterpiece
not all, SSC proved that. they tried to build a 16 cylinder car in the 90's it failed too
>You could, if you wanted, drive it everyday.
you could drive a caparo t1 everyday if you wanted
>It's exclusive
because no one likes it there for no one buys it
>It's an icon
in a middle school study hall
>It's faster than anything on the road
SSC Ultimate Aero is OFFICALLY faster, well you may even pull up next to a Henessey Venon 1100, who wold win that one:-k
>It looks fantastic
it looks like a turtle, and turtles arnt sexy or aerodynamicly superior
>It's revived Bugatti
correction, VW revived Bugatti, this will do exactly what the EB110 did. put bugatti out of buisness

I could go on. The Ultimate - oh christ I can't even be bothered to type it again - The 'Cheesewedge' is as ugly as sin, and as much as the design team tried, it couldn't seriously be driven everyday.

you gotta be a pansy as$ ***** to complain about being driven everyday. "yeah i live in northern minnesota, my year round car, a Ultima GTR. I dont think so

The SSC team brag on about how it has all these comforts, DVD, elect. windows, reversing camera, hand stitched interior etc. But it all fails to equal the elegance of the Veyron. Look at the cabin of a Veyron, then the SSC. The Veyron has a large open cockpit with luxurious trim, whereas (even though they tried) the SSC has a really cramped, tight (and I bet hot) cabin. It has racing buckets, hardly the most comfortable place to sit. I love the way they go on about how it could house a 6' 7" man weighing up to 300lbs (basically an American), as if it's an important aspect that a supercar is able to be driven by a fat b*****, as if they would have set a record with that!
if its luxery and speed your looking for a BUY A FKKN BENTLEY CGT. the veyron honestley isnt that luxerious, its all hype, along w/ that you gotta have a REALLY tiny dick to buy a car w/ a horsepower gauge.

It's nothing in the face of the Veyron, and neither is this Vector. It's a crying shame that anyone should think so.

And thats why the SSC out performs the Veyron on about less then 1/20th budget. a veyron owner will be talking to one guy at a dinner party and he will say "yup shes the fastest car in the world" then the guy hes talking to willsay, " i thought that SSC company offically beat the record the veyron NEVER SET IN THE FIRST PLACE! The VW Veyron is rubbish. I doubt that Veyron owners are very happy people.

Chris.

im just getting started.

Why are you people even talking about the SSC and Veyron. Correct me if I am wrong, but where was the memo that officially turned this thread into a Veyron vs SSC comparisson thread.

TALK ABOUT THE VECTOR, NOTHING ELSE!

Please consider these words before you type:

If you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all.

This, like many other threads, has gone down the shitter.

300mph, so hmmm to get there what kinda number are we looking at (peter griffin voice)

A big one (hommer simpson voice)

Why are you people even talking about the SSC and Veyron. Correct me if I am wrong, but where was the memo that officially turned this thread into a Veyron vs SSC comparisson thread.

TALK ABOUT THE VECTOR, NOTHING ELSE!

Please consider these words before you type:

If you don't have anything good to say, then don't say anything at all.

This, like many other threads, has gone down the shitter.

i would love to..but i've said my peace about this car..

I think it's going to make the Vector name shitah....Vector used to be an amazing supercar company..

Not just some 389321098HP kit car maneufacturer..

I know that drift, but rebutting another members comments, as rediculous as they sound, starts making the thread crap.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Wow, this is pretty astonishing; I've never been quoted so much.

I like it. I like how my opinion is always challenged, I'm being honest and trying to be a little humourous at once, and then you do the same back. It's not really that hotsile. If we all agreed on everything life would be boring, we need to be able to differenciate between taste, and why our taste is different. My taste is judged on how I was bought up, I always loved cars and looked at them in my own perspective. On the other side of the world you were bought up differently, and even though it may have only been slight differences, it would have changed your taste on everything from mine.

Which is ok, right? As long as we can all agree on 'facts and figures' then it's ok. We can all shake hands and go back to downloading music onto our iPods.

The overall consensus is that this prototype Vector looks rubbish, and will need a lot of work to acheive what is quite a respectable target. I believe they could have made a better comeback by producing a luxurious fast car, using maybe a different fuel source. If it worked well it would revive the company and then they could pursue this goal. I think that producing a hybrid supercar would be a far better business plan than building a 300mph supercar. It's much harder to fail.

Chris.

^^^Just in response to your last line:
while it would be a politically correct and novel thing to make a hybrid supercar, this is what Vector wants to do. And in doing so, they've set themselves up, not for failure, but a monumental task with a possibility of achievement, even if it means very little in a realistic, everyday sort of sense.

"It's much harder to fail." <--that sort of thinking is what keeps people stuck in a rut, designing the same tired designs and using the same tired methods. While a big company or a fledgling company should fear an explosive failure, it would never do them any good to play it totally safe either.

"No one ever got anywhere worth being without a risk." <--that's my quote and I stand by it, everyday.

while it's possibly just a gimmick in the grand sense of things, their goal is a very real one, and I wish the Vector guys the best in meeting that goal, and hopefully pulling out the Supra headlights from the mock up model, lol.

in the past, Vectors have come out looking very sexy, i was always a fan of the W12's looks, I'm thinking this could be a real looker when it's actually developed to some degree :)

kind of sad I missed out on the wars...

anyways, about the look, throughing in my two cents, although the supra head lights are ridiculous, it certainlly look better than the bland at best ssc, and far better than the bathtub on wheels...

^^the looks aren't the best thing of this car , but at least they are original , not a bad copycat of a lamborghini as the SSC , but it still with that kit cart taste when you look to it.

You know, I don't know why I even bother to do it. I see this story and personally, I get excited at just the thoughts and the idea that this car might be a reality. So thinking happily I make a thread about it to inform you all.

Then most of you go on here and say its not as good as "whatever" car, or it will "never" do it, oh and my favorite is how some of you actually believe that you are smarter than you really are, and point out your "scienturdific" facts.

I was hoping for some fun/thought filled posts such as, "isn't it cool that they would be making this", "what a proposition,"or wow this is quite interesting and I hope they can do it." The thing is, a true automotive enthusiast would be excited. Why? Because no car that is available to the public can go upwards of 300 mph, nor are 1850 hp engines in production cars. Most of you are just full of hot air and self loving ego.

The SSC did the attempt on video(GO TO YOUTUBE) and they had the GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS there to do it, in fact SSC waited for them to come because of idiots like some of you. Who probably wouldn't even believe it happened.

James May drove the car at 250+. Congrats to him, but so did a bunch of other publications and don't forget the Veyron didn't get its record on a PUBLIC ACCESSABLE STREET. They had to do it on a CLOSED TESTING COURSE. A course the SSC didn't have access to because Bugatti knew what was coming. Oh and the SSC goes even faster than what it did.

I can guarantee that if this was made by some Japanesse company, or God forbid a European manufacturer, the response would have been so positive.

This is a very small company defying what most large companies don't dare to do. Some of cannot read either, the car in the picture is a PROTOTYPE version, not what it will look like. That means its not in its candy wrapper yet. This is what they plan to do, the car is there so that they don't just have sketches for the public.

Some of you guys are real morons and are what is bringing the quality of this site down.

:mad:God damn Clutch... I love it when you get into the conversation! lol... Good post.

I personally think you could do a 1/4 mile in at least under 9 seconds with 1800hp on street tires. The Veyron is far less powerful and manages a 10.2.Did you not read my comment earlier? They're gearing this thing to go fast. If they geared a car with that much power to try running quicker than it does it would just smoke the 'street tires'...

forzamotorsport9 especially, why does everyone hate the Veyron? I mean, yes, its expensive, and yes, its heavy, but its been proven to handle well so weight isn't an issue. The SSC website says "for serious purchase enquiries click here" - it doesn't even tell you the price. It could be a $1,000,000 too, so don't get all hyped up on how expensive the Veyron is. There are no flaws with the Veyron at all, and ignorance such as forzamotorsport9s annoys me.

Taking adavatage that we are talking about top speed , I have this little doubt , the SCC have a not soo good Cx 0.357 but a good power 1183Hp , but the Koenigsegg CCXR have a much better Cx 0.297 but with less power 1018Hp , my question is the CCXR would be faster than the SSC or both car should have a similar top speed?

Apologies if these have already been posted:

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/105854/3294853c.jpg

http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/105854/3294851c.jpg

How ugly is that mofo?

I love the trademarked "HPRV"! - HAha

It's supposed to be designed after the modern-day fighter jet. Not exactly a new idea is it? *Cough, Ahem, Reventon?

The Reventon pulled it off but this doesn't. I can't make one comparison.

As it stands it has neither the look or feel of an ATF, as they quote. It has no super-sleek design, no high tech gagetry and an engine designed originally in the early 20th Century. Hardly high-tech any more is it?

Chris.

If you use that thing in your head you'll know that this is a workup model and not the final result. Look inside at the seats. Gee, I see two...

Did you not read my comment earlier? They're gearing this thing to go fast. If they geared a car with that much power to try running quicker than it does it would just smoke the 'street tires'...You can still accelerate fast and have a high top speed. The first 4 gears can be made for acceleration and the last two for building up to the 300mph mark. The Veyron is supposedly geared for maximum speed but if you watch it accelerate you can see it's also geared for good 0-60 and 1/4 mile times.

forzamotorsport9 especially, why does everyone hate the Veyron? I mean, yes, its expensive, and yes, its heavy, but its been proven to handle well so weight isn't an issue. The SSC website says "for serious purchase enquiries click here" - it doesn't even tell you the price. It could be a $1,000,000 too, so don't get all hyped up on how expensive the Veyron is. There are no flaws with the Veyron at all, and ignorance such as forzamotorsport9s annoys me.

voicing an opinion is not ignorant... your hostile, 'point the finger' retaliation to such posts is ignorant

the SSC costs $570,000.......I CALLED MOTOR CARS LAS VEGAS AND THATS WHAT THEY GO FOR. SO ITS HALF THE PRICE OF A NEW VEYRON;)

the veyron is not as nimble as its lighter competetors, its weight worksgainst it-EVO magazine

There are no flaws with the Veyron at all

who the hell are you to be calling me ignorant????


btw i looked and i could not find anything about a 1800bhp engine for the vector?

Little steering feel? A lot of the reviews I read said it had "great" steering. :smt108

Little steering feel? A lot of the reviews I read said it had "great" steering. :smt108
my bad:o. i ment 'nimble' or 'sharper' handling, some thing lightweight cars have.

they basically said the weght was working against it

Now that we've cleared that up, back to the Vector....

I personally think that awd should be used on the 1850hp model, just so the power can be used at speeds below 100mph. Anyone agree or no because it will hinder top speed and add weight?

Now that we've cleared that up, back to the Vector....

I personally think that awd should be used on the 1850hp model, just so the power can be used at speeds below 100mph. Anyone agree or no because it will hinder top speed and add weight?
i think it would sent the price of engineering through the roof and add stress. but w/ 1850bhp weight isnt THAT big of a hindrance (at least in this case)

I meant in terms of handling, the weight will not do it any favors. Except for the fact that there is more stability with awd.

Has anyone thought about the fact that just because it's got that much horsepower, you don't have to use it all the time?

You bet^^. It's not like in Forza where it's right to the floor almost all the time. But why would I buy the 1800hp model if the wheels will only handle 750?

finally a decent american car! any clues on what it would handle like - i'm thinking 'not good'.
1850bhp! that would be an awesome car

I meant in terms of handling, the weight will not do it any favors. Except for the fact that there is more stability with awd.

im think the power delivery would be kinda spiky, im not sure wbout the extra weight for the handling. the gallardo isnt superheavy and it handles well w/ AWD as do many cars. I think a rear biased AWD system certinly would be worth the weight for this car

You bet^^. It's not like in Forza where it's right to the floor almost all the time. But why would I buy the 1800hp model if the wheels will only handle 750?The wheels can only handle 750? What exactly does that mean? I'm confused there...

finally a decent american car! any clues on what it would handle like - i'm thinking 'not good'.
1850bhp! that would be an awesome carWhy are you thinking that? I'm curious as to what would give you that idea?

finally a decent american car! any clues on what it would handle like - i'm thinking 'not good'.
1850bhp! that would be an awesome car
So these weren't decent American cars?

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/saleen_s7.asp
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/ford_gt_tungsten.asp
http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/ford_gt_tungsten.asp

The guy's clueless Venom. It's obvious that he's ignorant about cars and hopefully he'll stick around long enough to learn something...

i guess if the chassis was properly set up it could be devilishly quick, that said using 1000+hp mid corner on street tires seems risky, awd would help but by no means be the all healng cure

The wheels can only handle 750? What exactly does that mean? I'm confused there...
Wait....I suggested awd so that the full 1800hp could be used on the road without ridiculous wheel spin... you said that you don't have to use the full power all the time, and then I just asked what the point of buying the 1800hp model would be if the wheels can only handle 750hp. Now I'm a bit confused.


Why are you thinking that? I'm curious as to what would give you that idea?
'cause it's american

Taking adavatage that we are talking about top speed , I have this little doubt , the SCC have a not soo good Cx 0.357 but a good power 1183Hp , but the Koenigsegg CCXR have a much better Cx 0.297 but with less power 1018Hp , my question is the CCXR would be faster than the SSC or both car should have a similar top speed?
can anyone answer my question?

How would we know? My guess is as good as yours.

Wait....I suggested awd so that the full 1800hp could be used on the road without ridiculous wheel spin... you said that you don't have to use the full power all the time, and then I just asked what the point of buying the 1800hp model would be if the wheels can only handle 750hp. Now I'm a bit confused.
Okay, now I understand what you were saying. I was wondering where you got 750 hp from. It can handle the full horsepower if it's got the right gearing, the right clutches, and the right tires.


'cause it's americanWhat I meant was why does he think this is the only good American car...

I also like the rattle can spray job, gives it that Walmart feel.

I agree its spectacular! :rolleyes:

im interested to know how much preporation has gone into the car thus far

Wow, a 1850 bhp is insane, lets hope they can make it stable. The 750 bhp is pretty much, the more efficient type.

Wow, is it possible this thread turned from super crap to medium crap in only 3 pages. Maybe there is hope after all......:|


I think that the best way to incorporate all of this power for a street legal application, that would obviously use street legal slicks, would have a staggered hp system. Think of how BMW did it with the M6. They have a system in place where the car is normally just using 400 hp or so, and then upon the press of the M button, it goes up to 500 hp on tap. I think Porsche did it to with their Variable Vanos Turbo system, where the blades in the turbo can change angle and allow for more air flow providing a boost.

So if they put it a "mediocre" 800 hp as the base setup, they could make the car a bit more usable than an 1850 right off the bat. While cruising, the driver can press a boost button which frees up some revs and ponies to the driver for a bit more excitement. Lets say the first stage cand be 500 hp extra for 1300 hp. Then the entire 1800 hp would be available upon the switching of a second boost trigger which is to be used for all out speed.

I think this could all be done with some CPU work and a solid drive train. TCS, STM, launch control, and AWD put all togther can make a relatively safe car to drive around town.

Of course sometimes the end user can mess up the whole system.