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Kaoss
Nov 12, 2007, 11:54 PM
This is a track comparison only, not an everyday driver.

Evo VIII MR FQ-400

Type:Inline-4, Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc):122 (1997)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM:405(302) / 6800Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:355(481) / 5000
Redline at RPM:n.a.

Brakes F/R:ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R:n.a.
Driveline:All Wheel Drive

Length × Width × Height in:175.1 × 69 × 56.6
Weight lb (kg):n.a.
Acceleration 0-62 mph s:3.5
Top Speed mph (km/h):175 (282)

Gallardo

Type:V10Displacement cu in (cc):303 (4961)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM:520(362) / 8000Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM:376(510) / 4250
Redline at RPM:n.a.

Brakes F/R:ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R:235/35 ZR19 - 295/30 ZR19
Driveline:All Wheel Drive

Length × Width × Height in:167.7 × 74.1 × 45.4
Weight lb (kg):3153 (1430)
Acceleration 0-62 mph s:4.0
Top Speed mph (km/h):196 (315)

Which would be the better track car?

wanna koenigsegg
Nov 12, 2007, 11:59 PM
Something tells me that the Evo would be a much better car for the majority of tracks, The present day Lambo lineup in reality isnt as 'quick' as some of its more famed vehicles were.

Attaus
Nov 13, 2007, 12:35 AM
Please dude.. this has been done twice and there's a video of it on Top Gear.

Driftster
Nov 13, 2007, 12:39 AM
Attaus..it was FQ400 Vs Murcielago..not Gallardo...


and i'd take the Gallardo..

much nicer car overall Superlaggera or not

Attaus
Nov 13, 2007, 12:44 AM
Whoops my bad. So a slower version? Eh.. I'd probably take the Gallardo and sell it.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Nov 13, 2007, 1:27 AM
^^ Lemme add to that. Buy a Gallardo and sell it. Then i go buy a FQ400 and keep the extra cash.

JoeProte83
Nov 13, 2007, 4:25 AM
uhhhhh nop. The extra cash will be spend on maintenance and repairs of the FQ-400 mate...

Anyway i don't like any of them but the Evo has lot more for improvement...

*#turbinas#*
Nov 13, 2007, 7:38 AM
I would take the FQ and then customize it a little. You know it has a terrible turbo lag.
For a track day car i would take the Evo.
For an every day car i would take the Gallardo. Yep, the gallardo. Awesome car.

Ghalos
Nov 13, 2007, 8:21 AM
Which would be quicker? The EVO, for about five laps till something on that highly strung motor blew up.

=P

Actaully, I'd take the Gallardo, it'd be more fun imo.

S-Tune_S1
Nov 13, 2007, 8:58 AM
Gallardo , that evo's looking mean in FQ400 guise , but i like the V10 with the added AWD .

sandeep_qp
Nov 13, 2007, 11:38 AM
sorry but isnt this a track comparison

i think the evo would win, lighter and tons of grip, hte only advantage in the gallardo would be the weight distribution

civic_VTI
Nov 13, 2007, 11:41 AM
just read the first post sandeep

freakinsweet
Nov 13, 2007, 11:54 AM
I think it would very much depend on the driver, if the driver was very skilled and could drive the gallardo the way it should be then I think it would be faster, but I think the evo is much easier to drive fast and can almost make up for a pretty handless driver, so I think it would be faster if the driver was less skilled

plus I think the Gallardo would be more fun so I'm gonna go with it

SpArKy
Nov 13, 2007, 12:26 PM
I'd take the Gallardo. I'd go as far to say the evo is faster, but I reckon the Gallardo would feel better to drive. Lower, stiffer, howling V10 etc.

miniwisejosh
Nov 13, 2007, 6:00 PM
I think it would very much depend on the driver, if the driver was very skilled and could drive the gallardo the way it should be then I think it would be faster, but I think the evo is much easier to drive fast and can almost make up for a pretty handless driver, so I think it would be faster if the driver was less skilled

plus I think the Gallardo would be more fun so I'm gonna go with it
I don't completely agree with that. You'd probably be right if both cars had similar engine characteristics, but they don't. The FQ400 is essentially useless once the boost drops off. I'd expect that some decent skill is required to keep the boost on for the entire lap. The Gallardo on the other hand has power available at any time to make up for little mistakes. And I don't get the impression that the Gallardo is particularly hard to drive fast especially with the e-gear option. It didn't inherit it's ancestors' edginess at the limit, thanks (or no thanks from some perspectives) to Audi's intervention.

My guess is that the EVO would benefit more from an expert driver.

but I may be wrong....

Anyways, I'd definitely rather drive the Gallardo for a track day. It seems like a fun car to drive even at a relatively slow pace (which is how I'd be driving...).

wwkkim
Nov 13, 2007, 7:51 PM
Something tells me that the Evo would be a much better car for the majority of tracks, The present day Lambo lineup in reality isnt as 'quick' as some of its more famed vehicles were.

I don't think the Lambos before they were owned by Audi wasn't really a "quick" car. I mean, Lamborghini didn't built his cars for motorsports but such as a pure enjoyable sportscar. Modern lambo is getting critized because the "wildness" of lambo has disappeared. However, I believe Audi DID contributed to the performance of modern lambo. For example, chassis strength became 3 times stronger after Audi shared technology with lambo. (I'm not sure if it is really 3 times but yea.)

Driftster
Nov 13, 2007, 8:04 PM
The Evo would need it's oils changed and brakes bled after every five laps..

On top of that, the powerband on that thing has to be sooooo high up that if you get into full boost in a corner you'll break traction and lose precious seconds..

or you'll fall out of boost and be all sluggish..

It would probably turn out the better hot lap....but 10 laps or so and i bet the gallardo would walk away with it.

LamborghiniZ
Nov 13, 2007, 8:08 PM
The Gallardo. People can say whatever they want about current Lambo's not being as fast, but this is a damn fast car, with great grip and handling, I mean it's a supercar for a reason, it drives like a SUPER car, quite literally. Gallardo all day.

forzamotorsport9
Nov 13, 2007, 8:09 PM
:the gallardo would be soooo much eaiser to post good laps and not stress the car.....kinda a odd comparison.

the litchfield type-1 would have been better:)

but thats what the comparison secton is for;)

edit: section*:o

Venom 1000
Nov 13, 2007, 8:44 PM
How are we even supposed to know how the Evo handles if there's no tire or weight specifications? If the Evo weighs less than the Gallardo and has better tires then there's a good chance it would beat it. It's probably just as fast as the Lambo in a straight line.

forzamotorsport9
Nov 13, 2007, 9:04 PM
How are we even supposed to know how the Evo handles if there's no tire or weight specifications? If the Evo weighs less than the Gallardo and has better tires then there's a good chance it would beat it. It's probably just as fast as the Lambo in a straight line.
once you get over 100+mph the evo's barn door aerodynamics would allow the gallardo to prevail. the evo wears very sticky tires and is prob a faster track car.

Venom 1000
Nov 13, 2007, 9:09 PM
The aero can't be that bad. It can do 175mph with 400bhp. That's not too bad.

Driftster
Nov 13, 2007, 9:18 PM
Lol considering i can do 140+ with chipped 170HP in a honda....

I'd say that sucks.....

the Evo 8 can do 160+MPH with just a cat back exhaust..
so yeah it's very bad actually.

Venom 1000
Nov 13, 2007, 9:39 PM
The F40 does 201mph with 475bhp. It's not THAT bad. I didn't say it was good. But it is good for a sedan with that sort of shape. And Honda Civics, you have to remember, have exceptionally good aero. I would assume you meant a civic.

Driftster
Nov 13, 2007, 9:42 PM
Well then that just means forza was right..The Evo does have the Aero of a barn door.

Venom 1000
Nov 13, 2007, 9:44 PM
Crappy aero is like the garbage truck that comes around every monday. It's not good but it's not terrible either.

oh f* this I'm done.

gm man
Nov 13, 2007, 10:46 PM
okk dude a fq-50 doesn't go 0-60 in 3.5
i 'm almost positive show me your info about it to prove

Venom 1000
Nov 14, 2007, 5:56 PM
It's got AWD, and probably low first and second gears. The 0-100 probably isn't as impressive.

Kaoss
Nov 15, 2007, 8:33 PM
Now...we're talking stock cars here...so don't bs about how you can customize it to 2020423094875290476349884884848484934950 34958 horsepower...

Evo for me, simply because it's an Evo, which is IMO one of the most track focused production cars in history.

Cornelius Van
Nov 15, 2007, 8:39 PM
Gimme the Evo.

It's more "hardcore," and I think that the challenge of trying to rein and control the 90,000 pounds of boost that car has would be a blast - and fast.

BMW CLR 600
Nov 15, 2007, 11:27 PM
Evo for me too. The regular Gallardo will get smoked by the Evo on a track...even the Murcielago did. But unless its an Supperleggra, then, I'll take that over the Evo simply becuase the Supperleggra looks so nice.

bumbar
Nov 19, 2007, 8:57 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/show/powerlaps.shtml

here are times from top gear, Evo is faster car, and it was vet when they drove Evo.

S-Tune_S1
Nov 19, 2007, 10:59 AM
^^Top gear is not a way to depend on any lap times .

bumbar
Nov 20, 2007, 11:54 AM
^^Top gear is not a way to depend on any lap times .
why not?

What does this mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lJwlUJU-f8
(Murcielago is faster than Gallardo)
If you have some better link please give it to me.

S-Tune_S1
Nov 20, 2007, 1:52 PM
Top gear is not a internationally knowned track circuit where you can depend timing on

Driftster
Nov 20, 2007, 8:18 PM
why not?

What does this mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lJwlUJU-f8
(Murcielago is faster than Gallardo)
If you have some better link please give it to me.

this means that on some tracks where high cornering speed is much more desirable than brute force the gallardo(superlag anywho) would more than likely outperform it. Because unless you're that good with shifting your Evo will fall out of the powerband more times than you can count..

top gear however has alot of sweeps and S curves that are just a matter of controlling ungulating weight

pawan
Nov 21, 2007, 11:42 AM
Evo for me, simply because it's an Evo, which is IMO one of the most track focused production cars in history.

can i ask why?.

AWDfreak
Nov 21, 2007, 7:54 PM
Lol considering i can do 140+ with chipped 170HP in a honda....

I'd say that sucks.....

the Evo 8 can do 160+MPH with just a cat back exhaust..
so yeah it's very bad actually.

You forget one of the almighty holy grails of Honda, the Honda NSX. It tops out at 175MPH with "only" 290HP...


I'd obviously choose the EVO. It's a rally car. Close gear ratios and AWD FTW (sort of). Also, it probably has less weight. But I won't deny that the Gallardo is a good car.....

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Nov 21, 2007, 8:21 PM
LOL, the evo did a one finger powerslide according to Clarkson.