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Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 06, 2003, 5:24 PM
Hey all!
I was wondering what you guys think about the new Renaults?
I think their futuristic models are very ugly! and i don't understand why their ONLY quite nice model the : Avantime, is stopt with production because it wasn't saled very well...
a few new Renault models:
This is the Avantime, the one who i liked the most of all! :
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/renault/avan11_a.jpg
Than we have the Super ugly : Laguna
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/renault/lag3b1_a.jpg
Than comes the even MORE ugly : Espace, and the old espace was just quite nice!
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/renault/esp51_a.jpg
And NOW we got one of the MOSTY ugly Renault ever : Megane
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/renault/meg332_a.jpg
Now what is your opinion about the new Renault line??
I think it's very ugly!!
I think it's stupid that the Avantime is stopped with production :(
Greetz : Danny!
NiGiz
Aug 06, 2003, 6:15 PM
Lol u like the Avantime more than the Megane? The Avantime has the more weird design of all the Reanult's...It was the first model to have the new design... :P
Personally it leaves me neutral...
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 06, 2003, 8:26 PM
yeah i indeed like the Avantime!
The Megane is ugly! i've worked by Renault ,and i swear Laguna and the Megane have a VERY bad durabillity and are at the moment VERY unreliable!! , MUCH electrical problems!
together with that weird desgin , this must be the most stupid cars of this moment :)
Greetz : Danny!
FR500
Aug 07, 2003, 12:17 AM
yeah i indeed like the Avantime!
The Megane is ugly! i've worked by Renault ,and i swear Laguna and the Megane have a VERY bad durabillity and are at the moment VERY unreliable!! , MUCH electrical problems!
together with that weird desgin , this must be the most stupid cars of this moment :)
Greetz : Danny!
The Megane IS ugly, but it has some appeal to me, anyway, they are making the same as nissan passing thru an euro filter, but the nissan results are better, even if the new maxima's rear is ugly as hell, also i do like the Laguna, i liked the previows one better but i don't think it's ugly, just weird
jimkk29
Aug 07, 2003, 2:57 PM
Yes, they're not too ugly, just a bit weird, and I also have to say that Renault has improved very much over the last years. They now make some very good and safe cars.
Still, I definitely prefer any Japanese or German car.
McLaren F1 LM
Aug 07, 2003, 3:08 PM
i don't like all renault abset the clio and clio v6 ,, clio v6 spider :D
Schumi
Aug 08, 2003, 3:19 PM
No,I like Renault.Their new models are ok.They aren't so much beautiful but they are OK... :wink:
McLaren F1 LM
Aug 08, 2003, 3:34 PM
yea i agree there not that bad but i would not buy one :D
White-Night
Aug 08, 2003, 4:07 PM
good car for its price...
if its a 1st hand :)
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 08, 2003, 9:24 PM
ok..
They are indeed making very safe cars Jim!
And today if have saw FOR THE FIRST TIME! a Avantime on the streets!!
Well. i can tell you that Nose is designed quite good , best the rest of the car is indeed ugly to!
greetz : Danny!
mallon
Aug 09, 2003, 5:44 AM
you saw an Avantime? - they only sold a few hundred of them so seeing them is very rare.
I like the new Renaults. The only conventional car left is the clio, and in comparision it looks boring.
To buy the new renaults you hvae to be a certain type of person, someone who wants to stand out.
Schumi
Aug 09, 2003, 12:56 PM
I think that 3 Renault cars have 5 stars in Euro NCAP car tests.Megane II,Vel Satis and Laguna.Right?
jimkk29
Aug 10, 2003, 9:05 AM
Yes, plus the new Espace. So that makes 4 cars with 5 stars!
Schumi
Aug 10, 2003, 9:14 AM
King of safety. :lol: Anyway Clio isn't that high safe car.Punto pwnzzz Clio :twisted: in Euro NCAP car tests...
White-Night
Aug 10, 2003, 9:16 AM
NCAP dont always replect the realaty !!
anyways its a test ... any you may get wrong resulat in real life !
mallon
Aug 10, 2003, 11:20 AM
everyone knows that white.
They can only test - do you expect them to test the speed the car can with stand before people get permanent brain damage?
The NCAP tests are the most realistic tests of all safety standard groups. And a car that scores higher will, more often than not, get better results in real life than a lower scoring car.
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 10, 2003, 8:39 PM
@ Mallon :
Yes mallon even here in The Netherlands it's quite exclusive if you see a Avantime!
There are MUCH more saled in Europa as you said!
IN Our Dealer ( garage) we already got 2 in our showroom , than we had a costumer with a avantime, who's light was broken and came to the dealer with it.....
So i thought they saled 2300 Avantime's in WHOLE of Europe! in a quite long time and they expected 3600, it was someting like that , don't know the numbers exactly anymore!
Greetz : Danny!
mallon
Aug 11, 2003, 8:58 AM
im goingn from something i heard on TV, they said the mid one hundreds from what i remeber - maybe im wrong!
Schumi
Aug 11, 2003, 1:38 PM
I saw only 1 Avantime here in Greece.They are like Lambo's.LOOOOL. :lol:
jimkk29
Aug 11, 2003, 3:41 PM
I've never seen one... how come it's so rare? :?
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 11, 2003, 5:52 PM
I don't know Jimm!
i was expecting that the Avantime became a quite good selled car! and the other Renault would be mistakes!
Well it's totallty diffrent , not fun , i like to see more Avantime's on the road :(
Greetz : Danny!
Schumi
Aug 13, 2003, 4:43 PM
I saw an Avantime today!!!LOOOOOL.It was a crashed one under ELPA's office.That was the old one.
jimkk29
Aug 15, 2003, 12:36 PM
For those who don't live in Greece, ELPA is a main Greek road help company.
Schumi
Aug 15, 2003, 5:31 PM
Yes,I forgot to explain!
:arrow: Thanks Jim! :wink:
Thlam
Aug 18, 2003, 11:26 PM
Renaults are freakin ugly my friend and I have had an argument about the renaults its a little soemthing like this: SInce Renault owns 40% of nissan he now thinks that nissans look like renaults, and i have compleatly disagreed because the new nissan design scheme is just "nissan" i cannot see where any nissan/infiniti looks like a renault, do you guys think that nissans look like ugly renaults?
FR500
Aug 19, 2003, 1:16 AM
Renaults are freakin ugly my friend and I have had an argument about the renaults its a little soemthing like this: SInce Renault owns 40% of nissan he now thinks that nissans look like renaults, and i have compleatly disagreed because the new nissan design scheme is just "nissan" i cannot see where any nissan/infiniti looks like a renault, do you guys think that nissans look like ugly renaults?
I've got to admit i thought that too, the front grille is clearly reminsecent, but Nissan is rounder whil renault's edges could cut other cars in the half
Thlam
Aug 19, 2003, 11:14 AM
yes that is true but if you take a hummer h2 and compare the grille with a jeep does it make it the hummer a jeep? All car companies copy eachothers designs evry now and then but they are all truely distinct
Schumi
Aug 19, 2003, 3:05 PM
Thlam see it from another post!Nobody said that Nissan look like Renault's.Nissan have a different style on their cars.And which Reanult is similiar to the new Primera??I think noone! :wink: And Renault bought the 32% of Nissan.Just for an information. :wink: :lol:
Thlam
Aug 19, 2003, 4:46 PM
lol yeah true, and Renault owns a 44.4% stake in Nissan we were both wrong but i was closer :lol: :lol:
you cna read it here for proof
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1627671.stm
Schumi
Aug 19, 2003, 5:27 PM
LOL.I didn't read the newest.I knew that Renault ownz Nissan at 32% or something.Well the previous ownage was 36.6%. :lol: :P I was closer!
Thlam
Aug 19, 2003, 6:52 PM
no i was!!! LOL :P :P :P
morr8
Sep 07, 2003, 6:20 PM
Every new renault is ugly what happen to those french people? Did they have some bad cheese before designing their new cars?
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Sep 09, 2003, 3:39 PM
heheheheh
YEah me agree with u ...
Greetz : Danny!
White-Night
Sep 09, 2003, 7:13 PM
the new megane sport looks rather good...
with 225 Hp i think it will kick some serious ass !!!
Thlam
Sep 09, 2003, 7:59 PM
yeah it does on the back it has that cadillac thing going on, but in fornt its another story
Schumi
Sep 10, 2003, 1:51 PM
Did you see the new Megane Sedan?It looks real ugly to me... :?
mallon
Sep 10, 2003, 5:13 PM
i wasnt too convinced with the looks of the new renaults but they've all grown on me (possible exception of the VelSatis). I think they're all cool. I think its better to be different than re-designing previous generation of cars.
Thlam
Sep 10, 2003, 5:26 PM
yeah cars i find ugly tend to grow on me through time :oops: but still not a fan of the megane;you either have a hatch back or trunk you can't have it both ways
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