Which one of these Hot Hatches would you have?

Good comparo, need specs though. Personaly i'd wait till the latest S3 comes out, in black. Those things have always just oosed class to me.

Ford Focus RS
215bhp @ 5500rpm
230Ib Ft @ 3500rpm
FWD with Qauife Differential
RS Tuned Suspension System
Brembo Braking System
0-62mph - 6.4 Seconds
Top Speed - 145mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/focusrs02_01.jpg

Honda Civic Type-R
200bhp @ 7400rpm
144Ib Ft @ 5900rpm
FWD
Sports Suspension System
Upgraded Braking System
0-62mph - 6.6 Seconds
Top Speed - 146mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/03/civictyper04_01.jpg

VW Golf R32
240bhp @ 6250rpm
236Ib Ft @ 2800rpm
4-Motion AWD System
Sports Suspension System
Upgraded Brakes
0-62 mph - 6.6 Seconds
Top Speed - 150mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/05/golf02r32_03.jpg

Vauxhall Astra GSI Turbo
200bhp @ 5600rpm
185Ib Ft @ 5600rpm
FWD
Lotus Tweaked Front Suspension
Upgarded Brakes
0-62mph - 7.6 Seconds
Top Speed - 145mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/astraopc03_01.jpg

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA
250bhp @ 6200rpm
221Ib Ft @ 4800rpm
FWD
Sports Tuned Suspension
Upgraded Braking System
0-62mph - 6.3 Seconds
Top Speed - 153mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/alfa147gta02_01.jpg

Seat Leon Cupra-R 225
225bhp @ 5800rpm
199Ib Ft @ 2100rpm
FWD
Cupra Suspension System
AP-Braking System
0-62 mph - 7.0 Seconds
Top Speed - 146mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/06/leon_cuprar02_06.jpg

Audi S3 Quattro
225bhp @ 5900rpm
206Ib Ft @ 2200rpm
Quattro AWD System
Upgraded Sport Suspension
Upgraded Braking System
0-62mph - 6.6 Seconds
Top Speed - 148mph

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/02/audi_s3.jpg

:shock: Sir, I take my hat off to you.

:D i don't think that i have to write... :D
http://img84.exs.cx/img84/8049/focus_89_2.jpg

Yay, more Hot Hatches...But this one at least has alot of choice...BUT..Out of that list, we American's only get one of them, which may explain my inate distaste for them.
And the one we get?? The 30 THOUSAND dollar R32, the same price as an EVO or STi...

We also get the Civic Type R as the RSX-S, and I've heard rumors of the S3 coming stateside.

But really, I don't care, I actually like the Focus RS's looks. It's got very, very impressive performance. It's got my Blue Oval and on top of all of that, I simply cannot have it...Which makes it too nice to pass up.

In a verrrry close second place is the Alfa 147 GTA, everything I've read about it says it spins the inside front tire like there's no tomorrow under hard cornering. But having that engine, with that tranny, in a body like that and an interior so chic and stylish...Woohoo!!! :P

S3 for me, do i really need to explain that again :P

Ghalos, don't forget the engine:
http://www.alfa.co.nz/showroom/cars/gta/gtaengine.jpg
You gotta admit, it looks great!! :D

Those are some shiny-ass headers! The polishin' an option??

Those are some shiny-ass headers! The polishin' an option??

Not an option, stock 8)

VW R32 without a doubt.. :)

From that list the R32 for sure, but ideally I would choose the Nissan Pulsar GTiR, even though its over 10 years old, it had 4WD, 300bhp, and out accelerate any half decent Porsche 8)

i said r32 because the options to vote for say the A3. i like the S3 a lot, my favorite hatch maybe so thats my vote.

Focus RS. It has good looks, some of the best Ford has produced recently, and I've heard a lot about the performance and handling. I would buy it if I was in the market for a hatch.

1) R32
2) Astra
3) Cupra

Tough decision, they're all great cars.

I'm gunna go with the R32 and the S3 Quattro because of their AWD. Could come in handy in some snowy weather, not to mention some fun rally impersonating action. I mean if romping arounda snowy parking lot is fun in an Audi 80 Quattro(my friend's brother took me on one a wild ride :P ) then I would imagine that the experience is magnified 10 fold with cars like the S3 and R32.

The Pulsar GTiR is the ulitmate hot hatch\sleeper car. Its got the same engine as the Silvia.
There's quite a few around the place i live in

Back to the topic.
I'll go for the S3 - Reason being i'm an Audi fan and I like AWD + Turbo hatches. Cant wait for the new one to come out

tough choices :shock: geez. ahm, I admire the Alfa to a great extent because of the fact that it is a functional peice of automotive art. The Focus RS is really sharp edged and has performance as a #1 priority. The Civic Type-R is classic hyper hatchback that just needs a little more power. Hmmmm, this is the hardest choice I've had to make. I wanna say Alfa 147, but I won't. It's Civic Type-R for me. :twisted: just needs some Mugen loving and a super/turbo charger.

I had a hard time choosing between the RS, the GTA and the S3. I finally choose the S3.
It has great performance, killer looks, AWD, and a great deal of class and luxury so it's a complete offer. It also used to be a dream for me when I was younger so I can't resist it.
A better combination would be the chassis of the RS, with the engine of the Alfa and the AWD of the S3. :twisted:

R32 without a doubt. It's certainly the most polished performer overall and not to mention chunky looks which look absolutely awesome! Second has to go to the Astra, because of it's wonderful engine.

BTW, the GTiR is still one of the fastest hot hatches, even though it is getting a bit long in the tooth by now. The SR20DET is shared with the 200SX/Silvia/240SX and has the ATTESA ET-S AWD system from the GT-R. Which basically garantuees it a place in the hottest of hot hatches category. I wouldn't be suprised if a GTiR shames at least one or two of these more modern cars.

I like the R32 but its so expensive :( So with that in mind i pick the alfa 147 GTA. it's got great performance specs, great looks, fastest 0-62 time of the lot and that engine bay 8)

you don't seem to understand RS is the best car(out of those) :D

Indeed it is.. faster than the R32 around a track. Just too bad we don't get it here. :( How much is a focus RS in Europe?.. or actually, what other cars are in it's range? :?:

Indeed it is.. faster than the R32 around a track. Just too bad we don't get it here. :( How much is a focus RS in Europe?.. or actually, what other cars are in it's range? :?:
Focus RS 35000 euro
147 GTA 44000 euro
Audi S3 44000 euro
Type R 27475 euro
Leon Cupra R 32750 euro
Astra GSi Turbo ?????
Golf R32 ?????

How much is an EVO or an STi? :?:

How much is an EVO or an STi? :?:
a stock STi UK is £26k and a stock EVO FQ300 is £27k in the UK
Impreza GX starts at £19k and Mitsubishi EVO 8 GS is £20k but they both suck big time :lol:

you don't seem to understand RS is the best car(out of those) :D
It might be the fastest but some ppl might just like the other cars for styling or just like the interior or everyday drive or maybe they just don't like the RS (no offense) but my list it:
1) R32
2)S3
3)RS
just wondering why dont these manufactors bring some of these cars to the U.S. we have turned into Hatchback junkies I mean alot of kids would probably buy them and maybe some old timers too :D

The RS is fast but the chassis isn't supposed to be that great

and the interior looks like crap.

to be honest i don't like the interior so much too but! the exterior and all the others just rocks!!!
the colour, the engine , the design, the frond bumper, the wheels, the brakes, the sparco seats. the cars is just a dream for me.

The RS is fast but the chassis isn't supposed to be that great
Actually, the RS probably has the best chassis out of the lot. I'm serious.

I doubt that, probably the 147 hands down even if its front wheel drive

The Focus killed off everything with its Chassis in 1998, and the fact that it has some of the best Chassis engineers in the Business. Also, everyone is still playing catch up to the 1st Focus in handling.

The Focus killed off everything with its Chassis in 1998, and the fact that it has some of the best Chassis engineers in the Business. Also, everyone is still playing catch up to the 1st Focus in handling.
yeah!!!!!also ford was in WRC i am sure they know more things than alfa!

i go for the Alfa Romeo 147 GTA :-) a beautiful car and it is made in Italy :smt054

I'm not saying the Alfa isn't Beautiful, but the RS is mean.

I doubt that, probably the 147 hands down even if its front wheel drive
The Alfa probably has the second best chassis next to the Focus. The Seat also has a good chassis.

I have to say, I hate hatchbacks, all of them, no matter how fast they are....

so my viewpoint on this topic is:
http://www3.telus.net/planetkevin/files/ForumPics/wfcares.jpg

believe me. a lot of people!

hatches are the new fad dude. get with it and buy a golf or something.

hatchbacks are for ricers, and these one's were comparing here are just damn hideous

hatchbacks are for *** ricers, and these one's were comparing here are just damn hideous

First off, please stop swearing so much here, the constant "gay" and "***" references I can deal with for awhile. But that many is waaay too much.

Also, before you start b*tching about how hatchbacks suck, look at the way they perform. They're sporting fun with unquestionable daily usability. As for the hideous aspect, the 147 is gorgeous in the eyes of lots of people worldwide, the Focus RS, and R32 are both understated and aggressive at once.

So while you and I both agree that hatchbacks are somewhat boring and "ho-hum", try to at least respond with less retarded generalizations like "hatchbacks are for *** ricers" because I own one, and I am definitely not a "ricer". And hatches tend to be peoples first cars because they're inexpensive, and in the cars here, alot of fun. 8)

I agree. Not many of us can afford ferraris and aston martins and super extreme gembella cayennes. We want an equal amount of fun with practicality and in a sane price range. Hatchback such as these mentioned provide it for the common man. They may not be my favorite kind of car either. Personally, i'd like to see all of these cars in sedan versions. But hatchbacks are just hot right now. Hence the topic title.

(BTW: with a signature like yours ckg690, you dont have any room what so ever to call anything or anyone a "***")

i was kidding about what i said earlier but hatchbacks can be nice cars. you dont always need the fastest car either. when you get in your car to go somewhere in town, you dont plan on racing there, so why do you need a race car. besides, how i look at hatchbacks is that they are a scaled down suvs for the more poorer of us. you have an suv, if it was 1/2 the size and 2 doors with a not so extreme engine, it would be a hatchback too. hypocrit. (not really but ive never seen a riced hatchback except for the honda si and personally i like hatchbacks so i dont see how you dont. open up your mind a little and live outside the ferrari dude)

hatchbacks are for ricers, and these one's were comparing here are just damn hideous
Do I really have to bring attention to the Group B Specials thread? oops

sorry, i was really generalizing, its just the only hatchbacks i've ever seen are honda civics, ford focuses, and volkswagen golfs, which half of all of those end up being 'riced' and i am very very very very very very very very very very very very very much against ricers, i've never actually seen or some heard of some of the hatchbacks, the only ones we get here in the u.s. are the r32 and s3(maybe?)

as for my sig, what are you implying?

probly since its from mopar68, he's sayin its rice bc it dont have a V-8...IMO :lol:

It's cause its a ricer

its not riced ifs a drift car

It looks riced up and whats defines a ricer. Hmmmm maybe looking ricey?

You guys are twisting the definition of "ricer". We're getting waaay off. Must I remind you? Well.. I guess I do..

http://thethrillseeker.net/funny/aaa.jpg

A S-15 that flies around a track with its tail sliding out at 90+ mph with 400 hp and some slight body modifications is NOT a ricer.

I WANT TO KILL THE OWNER OF THAT YELLOW POS :evil: :evil: :evil: !!!!!!!

look at those scoops and body wings, roof scoop... i cant even imagine what the spoiler looks like..... Everything bad in the world is shown in that picture...

that car where very yellow :lol: i wonder what kind off car it where before it where raped

it looks like a mitsu eclipse 95-99 model

You people arre all twisting the defintion of ricer or rice burner which just refers to its country of origin as Japan

It looks riced up and whats defines a ricer. Hmmmm maybe looking ricey?

You disagree with yourself in the same thread..

ricers have all kind of cars...
also this yellow thing SUX i hate it...

Looks like he's been playing too much NFSU!

looks like i missed some pages here, so is ckg690 saying that I am a ricer because I am powerchipping, adding a racing exhaust (NOT tin can), a GTi spoiler onto my 206 so that it looks a little more sportier and adds 20bhp (-3 for the extra weight :lol:)?

weird... anyway, an R32, a Focus RS... riced?? hell they are more powerful than any riced cars!!

and well done Attaus on the spectacularly hideous reminder of what a ricer looks like :lol:

you guys all put words in my mouth. I posted that back when ckg690 had all the cars he owned in his signature. Thats why i called it homosexual. has nothing to do with the car. Although i think drifting is somewhat of a fad and the popular thing to do now, i still have respect for the realness of the sport. Man, you guys are making me feel like BlucamSS. I'm not an insane hardcore diehard american muscle guy.

I doubt that, probably the 147 hands down even if its front wheel drive

For once i think you are wrong, i'm ford bias i know, but i really dig the alfa style + interior + engine sound, but the Focus Standard is GREAT, awesome platform, great grip, and it has the best road feel of any compact avalalble now bar Mazda3 (which is based on 2nd gen focus).

The RS shares basic suspnsion geometry with the WRC car, and that is great, it's the IMHO best handling FWD car now, and maybe ever. Previous great handling fwd cars in my opinion have been Fiat Coupe Turbo, Ford Racing Puma, Alfa 145 Cloverleaf.

I had a hard time choosing between the RS, the GTA and the S3. I finally choose the S3.
It has great performance, killer looks, AWD, and a great deal of class and luxury so it's a complete offer. It also used to be a dream for me when I was younger so I can't resist it.
A better combination would be the chassis of the RS, with the engine of the Alfa and the AWD of the S3. :twisted:

That would be ÜBER AWESOME or somehing alike, i'd got for l4 turbo (with alfa sound) for rally pursits and weight.

It looks riced up and whats defines a ricer. Hmmmm maybe looking ricey?

You disagree with yourself in the same thread..
Its what defines a ricer to different people, your taking my statements as what i belive in and i never said the original deffintion hadn't changed

I'm just confused because you said it looked "ricey" implying that the mods that were made gave it that title. Then you said, generally if it is from Asia it is called a "ricer". Can you clear this up? :)

In my opion it looks ricey in the common meaning of ricer but went on to explain that a ricer is just a japanese car

FR500: I completely agree with u there, however, I also think the Honda Integra Type-R is also one of the best, not far of the Focus Rs!

2005 r32 and not the 2006 one
if not 147gta has sexy looks,what a shame...only if it had awd it would be my love!:D

this thread is coming up to 2 years old now, its needs somehttp://www.forumspile.com/Thread-Crap-Lock.jpg

^^^hehehehe....thats a good one

Golf R32 got my vote...

^ Do you even read the date, or the above posts which clearly state it's old?

Plus if you want that R32, it's the old one. From 2004/05, get it?

Tough dicision but i'd have to go with the R32.

I kinda' like the Vauxhall....i remember reading some pretty positive things about it...