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Nissan GT-R in Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

Release on 20 October 2007

The lid has been closed on the Nissan GT-R since its sneak appearance (http://blog.worldcarfans.com/8070625.003/nissan-gt-r-sneak-appearance-at-goodwood-fos) at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, resulting in the fact that all eyes will be on the Tokyo Motor Show which starts next month. Nissan has just increased anticipation even further today by, together with Sony Computer Entertainment, releasing a short statement that the new Nissan GT-R will be featured in the Gran Turismo 5 Prologue teaser video game.

The GT5 Prologue game will be launched simultaneously with the actual Nissan GT-R at Tokyo on 20 October so that everybody can first see the car, online or in the flesh, and race it in the comfort of their own home immediately after. The final version of the video game will be released almost two months later just in time for the holidays.
More screenshots and teaser videos are available on the Gran Turismo website.

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interesting....

Stupid...........

Well, does no harm, so hey, why not.

Thing is though, is the covering going to be 3D and change in the airflow, or will it just be a 2D texture-type thing?

Man I wish I had the money for a PS3.. I'm not that big into games but I love the GT series and this new one looks amazing and they finally got license from ferrari to use their cars.

I've always been the first person to say that you never know what a sony system is truly capable of until a Gran Turismo comes out for it. This is still true apparently as we see these near photo-realistic screen shots here. Looks pretty impressive, hopefully it lives up to it.

The cars do look quite spiffy. And this sounds like a 'new car spied' article out of C&D or Motor trend.

There is one thing I noticed instantly...

For a game that seems more hyped than the O.J. Simpson trial , the ripple strips aren't even round. Neither is the armco. They look flat & have no substance. The grass looks like plastic.

I'm going to bet that this game will rely too much on vehicle detail & fail to really capture the feel of what a racetrack , as a whole is all about.

If this happens , I said it first. Thank me later.

We'll just have to wait & see won't we?

There is one thing I noticed instantly...

For a game that seems more hyped than the O.J. Simpson trial , the ripple strips aren't even round. Neither is the armco. They look flat & have no substance. The grass looks like plastic.

That works well in motion though, when you can't see the small details. The lines will look smooth and curved, the armco will look 3D without actually being all that 3D. I guess they see it as unnecessary to make everything exact if the only time players will see it are in still shots.

Though, in photo mode, it would be quite blaring, wouldn't it?

Like in GT4, some of the small, curved details on the cars had rough, straight edges that weren't smooth at all, but the only time anyone would notice them is if you actually zoomed into that area in photo mode.

Car looks shiny though. I want to know how it plays though, physics wise.

^^^ Yeah the physics are what I'm interested in. It'll be interesting to see the complete finished car list aswell.

FANTASTIC!!!!!I can't wait for this game
http://www.gamespot.com/video/942026/6179464/videoplayerpop?rgroup=tgs07_story
http://www.gamespot.com/video/942026/6179461/gran-turismo-5-prologue-gameplay-movie-12
TGS:Sep 20, 2007

Will this actually be a racing simulator game?

Or it will it be a driving simulator with race cars?

Holy mother fayking gosh...omfg...that is crazy:D:D I WANNA PS3 NOW!!!!!!!! And I actually considered getting a 360 :( Just look at this!!!!!! Holy crap!!!!! I'd rent a PS3 and GT5 for like 40 bucks just for that:p

i don't see what's so crazy about it..

what they did was make a nice detailed model of the Skyline..in Photo mode (which as everyone knows has better resolution)

And put it in the background of some lame Final Fantasy game or something that the playstation franchize is so "loved" for

GT5 is one of the only reasons i would think of buying a ps3. Maybe if they release another Ace Combat series and i'll think about it.

I'm really impressed with the user interface. Feels like home, industrialized etc. etc. ...til you step outside...it's just time to race. Excellent job Polyphony. What I want to see now ...is how the gameplay will entertain me. I watched the whole video about it in gamespot.com. I was quite impressed with the whole feature, especially with that online video browser ...very descent imo. Well I got patience to wait for this game, Halo 3 and Forza 2 is still keepin me busy ...and homework bleh.

After I saw these pics about two days ago, I officially had a jaw-dropping moment. While the physics of the game are yet to be tried out and put up against other sims, the graphics are second to none. The graphics of GT5 on the PS3 are ridiculously realistic and I am very impressed. Very.

Kudos to the guys at Polyphony.

^^^ Clutch , that seems to be the main selling point for this game...proving that people are still suckered by the 'look' of something rather than the overall feel of it.

Like I've always said , you can have the best graphics in the world...that don't mean squat if the game plays like a dinosaur. We all know what GT5 will be compared to & to me , it's all about the physics.

And GT5 better bloody well have the best physics engine & the best online play since the beginning of time. Or it won't be anything to me.

GT5 physics will feature probably be another evolution of the pool-table style engine, with some more advances in castor, camber, and roll center, meaning a true 3D phisics engine. From what I've gathered, the Forza/PGR series featured a simpler, more usable physics engine, all based around the cars c.o.g, and applying horizontal forces to each corner, and then vertical motion on the tires, and if need be, the body. GT4 uses basically a box, and instead of having the corners turn, it actually works on basic suspension geometry, meaning the axis of rotation isn't perpendicular to the horizontal base of the car, but can vary depending on the attitude of the car.

Basically, what this means, is that, unlike Forza/2/PGR1/2/3/4/NFS, where the car turns and then rolls/bumps/squats/dives, GT5 will work the right way, and the tires will apply cornering forces, not a predetermined value. However, as GT5 is expected to have 800+ cars, handling will still be a mathematically derived (yet physically accurate) guess, instead of a set of values imposed on the scenario.

How do you know that's how those games work? I'm not having a go at you but is this from what 'you've' gathered or is it the facts?

Mathematical calculations can go wrong as well.

Just cause you've got the numbers I.E. the Pikes Peak Suzuki in GT4 that can be tuned to over 1800hp , doesn't mean that that's how the car will behave in real life.

It doesn't exist so how can the cars be a true representation?

All the cars in GT that can be tuned to a stupid amount of power are not calculated on their real-life counterparts simply because they're not real-life.
If they were , Polyphony would've been driving 1100hp SuperGT cars & GT1 racers with 4/500 more hp & killing themselves before they made the game.

This is where 'real-life' simply cannot be emulated.

this game is going to be one BIG legendary game
800+ cars.. :|
Graphics are just too realistic... how realistic can a game like this get?:|
now i know that the next system i am buying is a ps3...:D

Like I said GT has come a long way, not sure physics wise, but it has come a long way.

GT1,GT2,GT3,GT4, and now GT5...PS1, PS2, and now PS3.

Damn, I remember playing this game at 8 years old or something, trying to win races to buy myself a Viper in the game, the oldschool Viper...and got it.

...Feels just like yesterday, people can say what they want...but, to me this game is great.

Well I just found out how much this Demo for GT5 will be. It will be between $39 and $43. Keep in mind this is only the demo version of the game. I can just imagine what people will have to pay for the real thing.

Perhaps $100 or more.

Source:
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/09/21/tgs07-gt5-prologue-is-most-expensive-demo-ever/

Lol no what can't be emulated..is feeling the front tires on the ground...therefore your car will always be a poorly responsive beast when compared to it's real world counterpart, however if you tune it so it works gaurenteed if you bring that over to it's real world duplicate..the real world car would either..hit a wall..or not be able to even be tuned to that extent..

I mean as much as I love customization, how is it possible to adjust a gear in a transmission to the hundreth? ANY gear to the hundreth.....

Lol i have a feeling ice driving will be back

and OMG!!! 800 cars..well then looks like it's going to have 300 skylines and 200 Miata's

LOL WTF? :lol: the anti-spy wraping is in GT5?

How do you know that's how those games work? I'm not having a go at you but is this from what 'you've' gathered or is it the facts?

explainations from the games creators, notably Kazunori Yamauchi (head honcho for the GT series), Hiroyoshi Katoh (Nissan chaif test driver, instrumental in GT4's physics engine development), and their opposite numbers at microsoft (can't remember their names :( )

Mathematical calculations can go wrong as well.

mathematical calculations performed on instruments with the specific purpose of calculating seldom go wrong. It's just like the laws of Physics, they can't be broken. And if the outcome isn't expected, then somebody failed to accurately gauge the relevant material.

Just cause you've got the numbers I.E. the Pikes Peak Suzuki in GT4 that can be tuned to over 1800hp , doesn't mean that that's how the car will behave in real life.

My Pikes Peak Suzuki only has 1200hp - what's going on? rofl



indubitably.

Well I just found out how much this Demo for GT5 will be. It will be between $39 and $43. Keep in mind this is only the demo version of the game. I can just imagine what people will have to pay for the real thing.

Perhaps $100 or more.

Source:
http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/09/21/tgs07-gt5-prologue-is-most-expensive-demo-ever/

You got it all mixed up bro. The DEMO for Gran Turismo 5:Prologue is going to be free. But the actual game for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue is going to be about $40. GT5:P is considered a full game.....until Gran Turismo 5 comes out. But we're getting the demo of this game for free. I mean all other "Prologues" haven't been free....so what makes this different? Full online and everything....it's worth it.

And at Driftster. Man.....that's enough. You proved your point. You don't like the PS3. All your posts in this thread have been hating on GT. We get it now. Stop showing ur jealousy.

lets see if i have the money to buy the PS3...*checks wallet* wait, i dont have a wallet...gosh thats a long time since i could buy it then...i dont really see how fun its really going to be though

and OMG!!! 800 cars..well then looks like it's going to have 300 skylines and 200 Miata's

how about a 100 more civics then?

You got it all mixed up bro. The DEMO for Gran Turismo 5:Prologue is going to be free. But the actual game for Gran Turismo 5: Prologue is going to be about $40. GT5:P is considered a full game.....until Gran Turismo 5 comes out. But we're getting the demo of this game for free. I mean all other "Prologues" haven't been free....so what makes this different? Full online and everything....it's worth it.


But isn't the Prologue really just a demo of the real thing. Thats what everyone says and that is what I am thinking. To me a DEMO of a game has things that are in the real game, but not entirely. A DEMO is a sampler of the game to people who want to see what it will be like. DEMOs aren't final representations of the game.

GT5:Prologue has cars and tracks from GT5 but doesn't have the entire game. Prologue is a sampler to people who want to see what GT5 might be like. The developers even said, the finished game feel won't be what Prologue will offer, they say that the full experience will be with GT5.

So you are telling me Prologue isn't a DEMO? Jeez I guess millions of gamers, magazines, companies, and myself must be wrong.

Prologue may be the first ever DEMO that actually will cost money to play. That is what I was trying to get across. Prologue is just here to keep the gamers interested in GT5 because its been a long time to wait for a game.

You know GT would be a great game, if everyone else didn't see it as a Racing game..

Because it's FAAAAR from a racing game...

IT's a "driving simulator" as in you can drive these 600-800 cars you'd never get to drive in well..other video games?Lol

Racing simulators wouldn't let you take a 1000HP skyline rallying, nor would it let you tune your CRX to outdo anything on the field and still be race legal....

if they put some governing system on the cars short of "You need a Masda Miata to race in this race"
It MIGHT just work..but...i won't count on PD doing the smart thing, they do what's most likely to sell

Hehe...yeah one problem in GT is they have a lot of the same/similar cars.

But I still like it, I wouldn't mine 100 Civic's.

You're all forgetting one thing.

Why do you think there's always a dominant number of Japanese cars in Gran Turismo?

When Kazunori Yamauchi & Polyphony created GT , they created it as THEY saw it. These guys grew up around Japanese driving culture & that's what comes through in their games.

Now , a Ferrari or this appears in a video or screenshot & everyone goes nuts. I loved the fact that there were a heap of Japanese cars in every game. They were fun at crazy amounts of power.

Anyone here ever play Motor Toon Grand Prix? Polyphony's first game on the PS1.

^I've heard Motor Toon, I dont think the first one came out in the states but the second one did.

Oh and yeah, thanks for reminding me about how they grew up on Japanese cars. Yeah its crazy having those cars, most of the cars I own in

GT are Japanese. I like 'em though, powerful GTR's and stuff.

But isn't the Prologue really just a demo of the real thing. Thats what everyone says and that is what I am thinking. To me a DEMO of a game has things that are in the real game, but not entirely. A DEMO is a sampler of the game to people who want to see what it will be like. DEMOs aren't final representations of the game.

GT5:Prologue has cars and tracks from GT5 but doesn't have the entire game. Prologue is a sampler to people who want to see what GT5 might be like. The developers even said, the finished game feel won't be what Prologue will offer, they say that the full experience will be with GT5.

So you are telling me Prologue isn't a DEMO? Jeez I guess millions of gamers, magazines, companies, and myself must be wrong.

Prologue may be the first ever DEMO that actually will cost money to play. That is what I was trying to get across. Prologue is just here to keep the gamers interested in GT5 because its been a long time to wait for a game.

Yea...I get what your saying bro. But I mean look at the history. Every other GT game had a Prologue and they have not been free. So I don't know why this should be free. And also, wasn't the Halo 3 beta, sold? Shouldn't that be free? Microsoft was basically forcing people to buy Crackdown in order to play it. Cuz they know almost EVERY 360 owner will buy it.

I'm just saying what Sony said. That this is basically a full game.

Yea...I get what your saying bro. But I mean look at the history. Every other GT game had a Prologue and they have not been free. So I don't know why this should be free. And also, wasn't the Halo 3 beta, sold? Shouldn't that be free? Microsoft was basically forcing people to buy Crackdown in order to play it. Cuz they know almost EVERY 360 owner will buy it.

I'm just saying what Sony said. That this is basically a full game.

I would like to see where they said this.

As for Halo 3, you were either chosen by random lottery, or you got a code from Crackdown. Not every 360 owner bought crackdown just to play a little bit of H3, and even if you did buy the game, you still got a whole game plus a bonus of playing H3. Microsoft never forced anyone to do it. With the prologue, you have to pay to play just a demo. With H3, you paid for an entire game and a free demo bundled with it.

Also, I don't remember past GT demos costing anything, in fact, werent demos just in magazines? And weren't $40+.

BTW prologues were only available for GT4 and not any other GT game.

ALL of my friends bought Crackdown just to play Halo 3. And they DID play it.

You don't have to pay just to play the demo. There is a demo for Prologue. It's free. If you like it, you can buy Prologue. If u don't, then you don't have to buy it. It's a "full" game.

Since when has a game of this size (including online mode) been a demo?

People have it a bit wrong.

1. There is GTHD, a demo of GT5 engine with GT4 assets (textures...).
2. There will be a GT:Prologue Demo - Free, one track, Suzuka, and 10 new cars.
3. There will be a GT: Prologue - not free, bluray and PSN, 5 environments, some 40 cars, online play and GT TV, pretty much all the features of GT5.
4. There will be GT5 - Not free, many cars and tracks, the full experience.

In the past there has always been a Prologue, a scaled back version of the game, some 6-8 months before release, for a cost between 20-30 dollars. Then the full game with a full price tag.

So yes, there will be a free demo of the prologue on PSN, but the Prologue itself will cost money. I have seen many games where you only get 30-40 cars and 4-5 track environments before, so this is not outrageous that it will cost money.

Check this out...just thought I'd share...

Its 2 new GTR's, which were at the Tokyo Game Show...for the new GT5.

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/binary/images/nws11903707975333223.jpg

http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/binary/images/nws11903707975572669.jpg

Though it was hard to understand the translated version of the site...haha.:p

Heres the site "translated":

http://72.14.203.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/news/d1214.html

Well we can ONLY prey there are 501 Skyline varieties instead of just 500