Ok this is it guys. The most extreme comparo yet. I know i usually have these big intros, but i'll keep it short. Everyone wants a race car, and you finally win the lottery. You buy lots of assorted things, super cars, houses, yachts. Then one day you get a letter stating "dear _______, you have been choosen to compete in the exclusive cross country rally. A small selection of participants have been entered. You can use any car you want, as long as it isn't an open wheeled car. The race will take place on _______ and the prize is a Gulfstream 4. Hope to see you there". Ok, pretty damn far fetched, but its a fantasy, so just go with it. So, you know whats up. You need a race car. Just pick one out of the many i will offer, and PLEASE GIVE YOUR REASON FOR CHOOSING AND PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY IT IS THE SUPERIOR OPTION. Please dont just say so and so. If your going to do that, just dont post. So, happy posting.

So you go to your local race team and ask what factory race car would be the best for a race like this. They say the following....

"the audi R8"

Price $1,000,000
Miles Per Gallon (racing):4 mpg
Curb Weight:1997 lbs
Layout:Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission:6-Speed Sequential
engine: Twin turbo V-8
Displacement: 3595 cc
Horsepower: 610 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
Redline: 8050 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.3 sec @ 148 mph
Top Speed: 205 mph

"the Bentley Speed 8"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp
Top Speed: 215 mph

"The BMW V12 LMR"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Engine
Type: V12
Displacement: 5990 cc
Horsepower: 590 bhp @ 4500 rpm
Torque: 500 lb-ft
Top Speed: 217 mph

"The BMW M3 GTR"

Price: $470,000
Miles Per Gallon: 5 mpg (racing)
Curb Weight: 2469 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 3997 cc
Horsepower: 444 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 354 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 7.1 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.3 sec @ 125 mph
Top Speed: 165 mph

"the Cadillac LMP02"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 4000 cc
Horsepower: 600+ bhp
Redline: 7500 rpm
Top Speed: 200+ mph

"the Cadillac CTS-V racecar"

Curb Weight: 2900 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 5725 cc
Horsepower: 500+ bhp @ 7200 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 7600 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Top Speed: 165 mph

"The Callaway Corvette LM"

Price: $140,000
Miles Per Gallon: 11/21 mpg
Curb Weight: 3170 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6267 cc
Horsepower: 470 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 450 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.5 sec @ 117 mph
Skidpad: .94g
Top Speed: 182 mph

"the Chevrolet C5R"

Price: $440,000 Curb Weight: 2650 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6980 cc
Horsepower: 610 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 570 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 6800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.3 sec @ 136 mph
Skidpad: 1.44g

"The Dahlback Racing Golf RSi" (ok, not a factory race car, but still cool as hell)

Price: Approx $275,000 Curb Weight: 3175 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-5
Displacement: 2110 cc
Horsepower: 900 bhp
Torque: 685 lb-ft
Redline: 8500 rpm

"The Dauer 962 LM"

Price: $853,000
Curb Weight: 2381 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Tiptronic
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 2994 cc
Horsepower: 730 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 517 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 7800 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.6 sec
Top Speed: est 250 mph

"the Dodge Viper competition coupe"

Price: $100,000
Miles Per Gallon (Racing): 5.0 mpg
Curb Weight: 2995 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V10
Displacement: 8277 cc
Horsepower: 520 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 540 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec
0-100 mph: 7.8 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.7 sec @ 123 mph
Skidpad: 1.15g
Top Speed: 192 mph

"The ferrari 360 GTC"

Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V8
Displacement: 3586 cc
Horsepower: 445 bhp @ 8750 rpm
Redline: 8750 rpm

"The ferrari 575 GTC"

Price: $785,000
Curb Weight: 2425 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V12
Displacement: 5997 cc
Horsepower: 605 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 538 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed: 208 mph

"The Gemballa GTR 750 Evo"

Price: $262,000
Curb Weight: 3350 lbs
Layout: Rear-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3800 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 690 lb-ft @ 6150 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.5 sec
Top Speed: 225 mph

"The HKS Altezza"

Curb Weight: 2155 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Inline-4
Displacement: 2000 cc
Horsepower: 564 bhp @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 446 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph

"The Jaguar XJR-9LM"

Curb Weight: 1942 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 7000 cc
Horsepower: 691 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 590 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm

"The Jaguar XJR-15"

Price: $821,000
Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 5993 cc
Horsepower: 450 bhp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.1 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph

"The Jaguar XJ220S TWR"

Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo V6
Displacement: 3498 cc
Horsepower: 680 bhp @ 7200 rpm
Torque: 527 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: 229 mph

"The Lamborghini Diablo GTR"

Price: $310,000
Curb Weight: 3075 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 5992 cc
Horsepower: 590 bhp @ 7300 rpm
Torque: 472 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 8.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 125 mph
Skidpad: 1.00g
Top Speed: 210 mph

"The Lotus GT1"

Price: $645,000
Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3506 cc
Horsepower: 350 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 295 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.8 sec
Top Speed: 199 mph

"The Maserati MCC"

Curb Weight: 2425 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V12
Displacement: 5998 cc
Horsepower: 624 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 481 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
Redline: 7700 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec
Top Speed: 205 mph

"The Mazda 787B"

Curb Weight: 1831 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Wankel Rotary (4)
Displacement: 2622 cc
Horsepower: 700 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 620 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm

"The McLaren F1 GT"

Curb Weight: 2690 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 6064 cc
Horsepower: 627 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 480 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 7.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 125 mph
Skidpad: .86g
Top Speed: 225 mph

"The Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR"

Price: $1,000,000+
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 5987 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 3700 rpm
Redline: 7800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.8 sec @ 133 mph
Skidpad: 1.00g
Top Speed: 191 mph

"The Morgan Aero 8 GT"

Price: $298,800
Curb Weight: 2218 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: BMW V8
Displacement: 4398 cc
Horsepower: 500 bhp @ 6900 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft @ 6300 rpm

"The Mosler MT900S Photon" (not really a race car, but it's close"

Price: $209,000
Miles Per Gallon: 17/27 mpg
Curb Weight: 2144 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: LS6 V8
Displacement: 5665 cc
Horsepower: 435 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.1 sec
0-100 mph: 7.1 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.02 sec @ 126.88 mph
Skidpad: 1.02g
Top Speed: 165 mph (aerodynamically limited)

"The MotoRex Blackbird"

Price: $115,000
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2600 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 440 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 8.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.2 sec @ 128 mph
Skidpad: .95g
Top Speed: 198 mph

"The Nissan R390 GT1"

Price: $1,000,000
Curb Weight: 2420 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3495 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 470 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 9.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.9 sec @ 122 mph
Skidpad: .98g

"The Noble M400"

Price: $109,000
Curb Weight: 2330 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo V6
Displacement: 2968 cc
Horsepower: 425 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 390 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 8.0 sec
Top Speed: 186 mph

"The Orca Engineering C113"

Price: $280,000
Curb Weight: 1874 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Turbocharged Volvo Inline-5
Displacement: 2300 cc
Horsepower: 375 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 399 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed: 205 mph

"The Pagani Zonda GR"

Curb Weight: 2420 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V12
Displacement: 5987 cc
Horsepower: 600+ bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 3500-5500 rpm

"The Porsche 911 GT3 RS"

Curb Weight: 2442 lbs
Layout: Rear-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Flat-6
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 420 bhp @ 8200 rpm
Torque: 289 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm

"The Porsche 911 GT1"

Price: $912,000
Curb Weight: 2756 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3164 cc
Horsepower: 544 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 443 lb-ft @ 4750 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 8.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 123 mph
Skidpad: .99g
Top Speed: 206 mph

"The Saleen S7R"

Curb Weight: 2535 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 7000 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 550 lb-ft @ 5400 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm
Top Speed: 200+ mph

"The Schuppan 962CR"

Price: $2,500,000
Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3294 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 6800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 216 mph

"The Spyker C8 Double 12"

Curb Weight: 2425 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 3999 cc
Horsepower: 620 bhp
Redline: 9000 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.8 sec @ 121 mph
Skidpad: 1.00g
Top Speed: 205 mph

"The Stealth B6"

Price: $130,000
Curb Weight: 2100 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6276 cc
Horsepower: 511 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 6.3 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.0 sec @ 127 mph
Skidpad: .97g
Top Speed: 180 mph

"The Tommy Kaira ZZII"

Curb Weight: est 1500 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2568 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: 210 mph

"The Toyota GT1"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm

"The TVR Speed 12"

Price: $245,000
Curb Weight: 2205 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 7730 cc
Horsepower: 800 bhp @ 7250 rpm
Torque: 650 lb-ft @ 5750 rpm
Redline: 8000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.3 sec
Top Speed: est 240 mph

"The TVR Sagaris"

Price: Approx. $116,000
Curb Weight: 2420 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Inline-6
Displacement: 3996 cc
Horsepower: 400 bhp
Torque: 310 lb-ft
Redline: 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec

"The Ultima GTR"

Price: $66,000
Curb Weight: 2183 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6300 cc
Horsepower: 534 bhp @ 5800 rpm
Torque: 528 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 8.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.9 sec @ 124 mph
Skidpad: 1.02g
Top Speed: 204 mph

"The Yamaha OX99-1"

Price: $805,000
Curb Weight: 2535 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 3498 cc
Horsepower: 400 bhp @ 10000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.2 sec
Top Speed: 217 mph


And thats it sports fans. Take your time choosing. I dont feel like posting pics, so if you need one, just ask.

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When I can think straight I'll answer it...

I'm going insane. I can't choose

Ok, I would like to applaud Mopar68 for doing the impossible, a 43 car comparo. Car magazines don't even undertake this massive type of test.

I will post what I think Mopar would like as an "example" response.

I would go to my local race shops, and knowing that such a prestigious race would undoubtedly have foreign racers. I being an American would be compelled to represent America with an American built car...
This leaves me with a few options...

1-The Saleen S7R
2-The Mosler MT900S Photon
3-The Dodge Viper competition coupe
4-The Chevrolet C5R
5-The Callaway Corvette LM
6-The Cadillac CTS-V racecar
7-The Cadillac LMP02

Considering my age and need for something reliably quick, I can further narrow it down using LeMans and Sebring as a guide. Especially since in America 3000miles is more than 24 hours.

Leaving me only 4, S7R, MT900S Photon, C5R, and Cadillac LMP02...
The LMP02 is "outdated", and knowing of the competition I would face, and possible weather, I would go for a closed top more competitive one...

Although the Mosler does have the ability to change top speed via it's wings, it can't change gearing in the middle of a race. As such, it is out because the engine, though powerful, would not likely be able to keep up with the more powerful, Euro and Asian
engines...

Finally, down to the last two, the Saleen S7R, and the Corvette C5R, now both have comparable performance and reliability. The only difference is that the C5R has a much longer history of LeMans victories than the Saleen. On top of that the reliability of some Saleen engines is simply due to the lack of a racing budget compared to Chevrolets coffers.

Therefore, my final choice to take across the heart of America is in my very humble opinion, the best of everything an endurance race car would need. And it has the proof in the trophies of LeMans to back that up in reality.
My choice to speed across America?? The American sports car turned race car:

The Chevrolet Corvette C5R :

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Wow.. You are a god of posting Mopar! :shock: I must say this is one of the best posts I have seen.. I will spam this to keep it alive if I have to.. :lol: (J/K).

The thing that really influenced my decision was that, A) Do I really need a low 0-60 time? All of the are well below 4 seconds, and how many times to I need to peel out of a stoplight or gas station? How often am I going to hit 250mph? Not very often. I would rather buy a car that has all the performance that I want, all of the handling I want, all of the comfort I want, but wont cost me a pretty penny.

I have two cars in mind. One is the Dahlback Golf. The $275,000 price tag is a bit much, but I think I can afford it. Im interested in what its capable of. What can this beastly twin turbocharged 5 cylinder 900hp pump out? Now I ask myself, do I want to risk it all and gamble my chance at a 20 million dollar jet, or do I want to find a car that will insure a victory? So I decide to X out the Golf. There is only one car left. It is extremely well balanced, and very well priced. It pulls 0-60 in well under 4 seconds, has a top speed in excess of 190mph, and pulls an unheard of 1.15gs on the skidpad. Handling is one of the most important aspects of a distance race car, especially if I am going to be doing 100+mph on country roads. This car has one many races in the past, so I will be insured impressive performance. It has ruled the American streets since its debut in 1994. It is nearly a 1/10th of the price of an Audi R8. If you still cant find out what it is Im talking about here it is....


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The Viper Competition Coupe.

I'm going insane.

Neither can I.. well sorta... :lol:

The Dahlback Racing Golf RSi
The HKS Altezza
The Mazda 787B
The Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR (OMG DROOLS......................)
The MotoRex Blackbird (I'm show there's better ones...)
The Porsche 911 GT1 (*DROOLS*)
The Saleen S7R
The Tommy Kaira ZZII
The Toyota GT1
Viper Competition Coupe

GW Mopar 8)
I can tell you have put some effort into the selection.

Too bad I have no idea what some of the cars you posted.

You wanted Justification of my choice...so here it is
For those who cant be arsed reading below the line, i Choose the Porsche GT1 or the R390
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From what i looked at, and have an idea what it is. If the rally is high up in the country
where the air is thinner, I'll go for the R390 GT1 with a twin turbo V8. The reason being forced induction will have an edge over NA in this senario (eg, Pikes Peak).Another
reason is I've got a petrol powered 1/8 R/C replica.
Another chocie would be the Porsche GT1 :twisted: :twisted:
The justification for this is becasue i've seen in on the road.
I choose these two cars becasue they participated in Leman. As they can surivie 24hrs
of continuous thrashing, i'm sure it'll survive any country rally it faces.


If its not that kind of rally, I'll choose a Large capacity NA car becasue NA cars put less
pressure on the engine, therefore a greater possibilty of finishing with the car intact and
drive home instead of hitching a ride. I'm deciding between the Dodge Viper competition
coupe, The ferrari 575 GTC, M3 GTR and the Lamborghini Diablo GTR

I'll post if i have a definite answer.

Speed 12.
A. ITS A ROAD CAR (just)
B. Some of the others are gonna be a world of f**king touchyness not built for cruising and although niether is the TVR is the closest thing to
C. Its fu*king fast, some of the others would be better for the job, but 7 liter V12 guys. Power is what it will come down to with this much difference cause seriously mopar, you just named a whole lotta race with about mil price difference.
I'd maaaaayyyyybe take an Ultima Can-Am but you didnt put it up mopar :wink:

i feel dizzy :smt101

Great Topic Mopar :) OMG 43 cars :shock:
I cant decide on just 1 at the moment
It's between these:

Chevrolet C5R
Dodge Viper competition coupe
ferrari 575 GTC
Lamborghini Diablo GTR
Mazda 787B
Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR
Nissan R390 GT1
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Toyota GT1
HKS Altezza

I'll post my decicion later

I have to go American. And I love Mopars would have to represent them so I'd go with the Viper Competition Coupe. All the money saved by buying it could towards gas and any repairs needed. It has some nice performance numbers and good gas milage compared to some of the others. Alo, I've always wanted a Viper.

hmm, what happened to me and Ghalos's old posts? Oh well, i'll just retype what i said:

I need to make this topic more detailed and to the point. This just look like i put a bunch of cars together. Right now it's all just kind of random, so let me straighten things out.

The US government has just finished a brand new, state of the art ultra highway that borders the edge of the US. To debut it, they decided to have an enormous and ultra exlusive race the whole length of the highway. You start off in the tip of Maine and head off traveling south towards NYC. From there you turn west and head pretty much straight all the way to seattle washington. From there you head south agian to Los angles and then east through texas to florida. From there you follw up the coast all the way back top the top of maine. I'm estimating a 10,000 mile trip. The rules and guidelines are simple.

Rules

1. The driver must drive by himself without the aid of electronic or human navigation. All the contestants will have is a map issued to them at the start.

2. The Driver must where a inspected and approved race helmet when the car is in motion. No exceptions. Driving suits and such are not required, but strongly recommended.

3. Drivers are not allowed to sleep in fixed housing. Their shelter is whatever they carry with them in the car.

4. Music is the only distraction allowed while driving. Cellphones and visual distractions are prohibited. Any driver who breaks this rule will be out of the race, no exceptions.

5. There are no communications devices. All drivers will be issued an emergancy cell phone which they must use in emergancies only. If they are used for any use other than an emergancy, the driver will have a 5 hour time penalty.

6. All supplies for the day must be carried by the driver in the car. The next days supplies will be issued the night before. Open top LM racers must find a way to carry these supplies or else they will not be able to compete.

Guidlines

There is a pit stop every 100-400 miles, depending on terrain. Each car will be refueled and will have a fresh pair of tires at every one of these pit stops. All other maintinence that any car needs will be performed at these stops. Medical units are standing by at everyone of these stops. Helicopter units are also on hand. This event is not time limited. Whomever finishes first wins.

So, it's a tough choice. You have the ultra fast, ultra nimble LM cars like the R8 or LMP02. the problem is you need to carry the supplies (food, tent, water, etc.) and lots of fuel. You need something with a strong engine cause you only get one engine during the whole race. You need power and torque to get up through the mountians, but good aerodynamics and stability at high speeds. You must make a sacrifice: comfort or high speed? Remember to give this plenty of thought. This is not only a test of driver and car endurance, but a test to see if the driver can keep his sanity during this 10k mile trip. Choose your racer annnnnnd what your supplies would be. TAKE YOUR TIME!!!!

(P.S. i apologize to the people who choose already)

Yeah, I don't know what happened, buuuuuut...

What I'd do is take my C5R and put road worthy tires, specially made of course, and make sure they gave a liiiittle more comfort. I'd give the suspension more travel and have a button that simply said, "RACE" and it'd reset the suspension back to fully race prep. I would also include where the passenger seat would be, a cooler/microwave combo so I could keep beverages and food in there. Behind the seats would be a full army-esque tent with sleeping supplies and showering supplies. I'll find a waterfall, haahaha...
I'd have my racing seat re padded with alot more cushioning so it'd be bearable, and FINALLY, an iPod integrated into my helmet with integrated headphones...Lots of beats, lots of eats, gorgeous scenery all at 190 mph + in a Corvette C5R...I don't CARE if I win, that's the ULTIMATE ROADTRIP! :P

Food list: Microwavable foods...10,000 miles in a race car, hmmmm...I'll add vomit bags later.
1-Twizzlers, easy to eat without hands.
2-Hungry Man dinners for the nights
3-Those 12 packs of little cereals for the morning with milk of course.
4-And of course no racer would compete without a steady supply of iced coffee, preferably of the "Jamaican Me Crazy" bean. Or just some Iced mocha's...
5-FINALLY! A big amount of water and sandwhiches...god I'm going to be fat after this race... :lol:

Okay i have decided....
Mazda 787B
I chose this car because it has good power and torque, also it has an aerodynamic body

I would have a storage compartment built at the front of the car to store food
Like ghalos, i would have an iPod built into my helmet
As for sleeping i would get a reclining bucket seat installed and sleep in the car (if its allowed, if not i would just bring a little tent and sleep in that)

my post got deleted aswell along with a topic i started last night. weird. oh well.

i chose the audi r8 because it has the fastest specs thats i noticed (maybe im wrong cause i didnt memorize all of them yet ok.) even if i fell behind i could get ahead with that thing.

The Dahlback Racing Golf RSi
The HKS Altezza
The Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR
The Saleen S7R
Viper competition coupe

the cars i'm still deciding over.. right now the altezza looks nice because it holds a lot of supplies, and is damn light, but gets "only" around 560 HP and most of these cars like the dahlback get like 900..and viper comp get's 80 mph slalom speeds. It's just so hard to choose

I think i can narrow it down to the altezza, CLK-GTR and the S7R.

Wow man...
Just one question Mopar... how much time did this take you??

Well, it's hard, but it will be one from the following:

Audi R8
Porsche Dauer 962
MB CLK-GTR
Dahlback Golf
Jaguar XJ220S TWR
Mazda 787B
McLaren F1 GT
Porsche 911 GT1
Spyker C8 Double 12
TVR Speed 12

I narrow it down quickly to:

Audi R8
MB CLK-GTR
Dauer 962

And the winner is... the Audi R8. It has proven it's value by winning the Le Mans 3 times. I also like the way it looks and the way it sounds (from a game :lol: ).

My three choices would be: Audi R8- Dominate at Le manns or hell any endurance race or series its in only has lost to the bentley speed 8 (which is based off the R8).
Porsche GT1- Fatest street legal Porsche ever made and it just looks dangerous.
Corvette C5R- same as the Audi R8 in the GTS class it is just dominate it has brought Ferrari to their knees in Le Manns with the one two this year (after all those problems) and over the past five years w/ only one loss to them in GTS

i amde a lenthy post here as well and it was deleted. frustration! anyway, I picked the Tommy Kaira ZZII because of insanelightweight, awesome twin tubo powerplant that's mid mounted and it has AWD. Looks like a wicked sweet Japanese born Ferarri :D there's nothing else like it.

Now that I've got an even BETTER post to reply to.. let me revise my statement..

One thing I need to mention : When a car is lighter, it doesnt mean that it has the capability to carry more weight. It actually limits what the car can bring. I have been on many road trips and from experience I know that 1) You need tons of space 2) you have to have a very high payload and 3) its got to be REALLY damn comfortable. One other thing to remember is that if it has a racing tank in the back, you dont exactly have room for a sleeping bag now do you? Now that I have a new choice to make I have to go with the HKS Altezza. Its not going to be able to carry much weight, but I feel that it is appropriate for a long road trip. It has extra room (4-doors) so that I am able to reach back and grab a water bottle on the back seat, or snacks for that matter, but it also performs with the best of them. I know that I am going to run into a few problems with that high-output 4, but I think that with the extra cargo space, slighty upgraded weight from my second choice; the Audi R8, and is capable of sporting some REALLY comfortable 5-point racing seats, its worth it. (BTW they would all be custom fabricated to fit my body type) I wish I could stick with the Viper, but I fear it has no cargo room for any kind of supplies. The last thing I would do to custom tailor my Altezza is to add a very light, and very comfortable flat bead so that I can catch a few hours of sleep.. :)

another reason why the Audi R8 and the C5R are the best at endurance racing http://www.imsaracing.net/2003/lt/ltframesnew.htm BTW Good job ferrari lol :lol: .

pleeeease dont tell me this topic is over already. It took me roughly three hours to put this together. I made this topic so large because it's leaves open lots and lots of discussion. All i ask is that you put some effort into your responses. It's not hard, just picture yourself in that situation. Use your imagination and logic at the same time. Argue with others on why your choice is better than theirs. If you need a pic of one of these cars, ASK ME! I will provide a picture. If you want more info on a car, ASK ME!!! I will gladly go out of my way to research the crap out of any of these cars. If you have another suggestion for a car that would fit well into this group, go ahead, be my guest, say that car. I left out a couple on purpose. It seems like i'm a broken record. Why is it that topics that take alot of work and are logical and thought out get almost no discussion, and silly topics like "name that furry animal" get hundreds of posts?

No how you feel man, remember that james bond car comparo, that took me aaaagggees and it got all of 2 pages

Im gunna be the odd ball here and go with the Nissan R390 GT1. I love this car. It stands alone in my mind. So rare, so fast :twisted: . I just saw it when I was skimming down throught the list and was really glad you included it in this compro. Many people dont know about or just look over this car. :(

I'll come back to make a list of my top five choices and then decend to one car like Ghalos did in an edit tomorrow. Unfortunately its time for some last minute homework...

No offense JimKK29, but the R8 will suck on a race like this, you'll be insanely uncomfortable in a car like that, your ears will bleed out. You'll lose all fluid in between your spinal disks on the bumps out there on a race...

What I'd like to see here, and no doubt so would Mopar who no doubt put a s**tload of work and time into this, is the reasoning on why your car would be the best trade off in this race. Sure the R8 will beat a C5R at LeMans, but this, is America, with a race 4 times longer. And stages changing all the time, you simply would not make it in an R8. You'd have to seriously modify the cars suspension to allow it to be bearable over the trip. And the reason the R8 was so dominant was because of that. And in a race like this, the other cars like, oh, say, my C5R (god that sounds good- "My C5R" hehehe) would be in the same field as your R8.

I'm not trying to single out anyone here, just using Jim's post as an example.
And while the ZZII is one of the best comfort-wise cars on that list, it's going to be so much slower than a C5R or R8 it wouldn't be within hours of the winners.

So please, for Mopars sake, and our websites intelligence ARGUE why your car would kick everyone else's in the rear! You don't have to be mean, or get upset, just realize that the car someone else chose would be just as close as yours, and maybe that'd be the best one for this race. 8)

I made my post before reading the "rules" of the race.
But even now that I've read them, I don't think I would change my choice.
Tent?? I'd sleep inside the car (or on it :lol: ). Food?? I'd bring with me a small bag with supplies and water, which I think could fit inside the R8.
As for comfort... well, they drive it for hours in the Le Mans race without any problems, so... my choice remains the same.

Besides, even if there was a race like this, I'd participate just for the fun of it and for the chance to drive a car like the R8, and not for winning. That's my opinion. :)

Come on guys dont let this topic die so quickly

Im still going with my mazda 787B
I'll add in another reason for my choosing: The engine would be able to last this race, it was the first japanese victory at le mans

Was God in control of ur fingers?

Ur, I'll have a Merc CLK-GTR, simply cos it tryed to kill Mark Webber twice and likes to fly!

simply cos it tryed to kill Mark Webber twice and likes to fly!

Hahahahaha...I can't decide if that's really funny or just really mean, hehe...

Anyways, the R8 being driven at LeMans is by 3 different people driving for 8 hours, not even straight. in 3 to 5 hour shifts! This is 10 hours AT ONCE BY YOURSELF!!!! Almost everycar here would be uncomfortable.
And "sleeping on the car"?! Try sleeping on a hard wood floor. Now add smaller surface are than your body so you'd have to curl up, AND then, figure in ridges on a cars surface, followed by of course, weather. BUt that was a joke, the smiley proves it. :D
But inside it is still pretty tough, you'll have all sorts of crossbraces running hither and yon, and unless you wanna sleep in the seat, which doesn't recline, feel free to.

But I guess since you're doin' it for fun, I can't argue too much, and thank you Jim for at least responding in an educated way. :P

I'd also take pop tarts on my road trip , since these one's are SOOOO GOOD!

No, i couldn't imagine sleeping in an R8. Thats just not happening bro. You could sleep on the ground like a true man, but not in the car. You can barely sit in the car. I do kind of like Jim's choice though. Could you imagine driving an R8 flat out for thousands of miles??!?!! That would be amazing! I'm sure it could keep a 200+mph pace for quite a while.

Yep, for anyone who has ever been to the Midwest, or Colorado especially, the scenery is just breathtaking. And pounding down this highway at close to 200 mph in any full fledged LeMans racer would be enough to be considered a "winner". But like I said, for national pride, and just generally a good pick, I'm sticking with my somewhat modified Corvette C5R. 8)

the midwest is breath taking? I dont think so. From ohio to about north dakota, it's all flat and farmland. It's terribly boring.

After much consideration, i've come up with a response to my own topic. It's sort of a semi final.

1. MotoRex Blackbird- since it's based off a skyline GTR, it's obviously going to be pretty roomy and comfortable. It's very black and very tastefull looking. It has enough power to keep up with some of the GTS class cars, but the 550hp is definetly not going to strain the Skyline's engine. However, the handling isn't up to par with the others. I also imagine the stability at it's proposed 198mph top speed can't be too great, so full out cruising would be more like 180-175mph, which would set me back a great deal.

2. Stealth B6- I like this car alot. It's like a mini toyota GT1. It's got enough power for it's 2100lbs heft, and it should be very stable at it's top speed. I think it's got plenty of room in the cabin and of rouce, it comes in a dark color, which i like. However, there isn't as much room as in a production based car. But still, it's cool as hell.

3. McLaren F1 GT- I dont know if much of you know about this particular F1, but it's amazing. It's probably my top choice. Plenty of room for the driver of course. I could definetly sleep in that car and carry plenty of supplies in comfort. The whole purpose of this car is to have the same downforce of the F1 LM, but with much less drag. The resault is a very stable car at it's high top speed of 225mph. Plus, it's black.

There might be more to come, but these are my top three. I'll give equiptment list later.

Tomorrow i'm going an a VERY boring excursion with my school. I just printed the list of cars, and i'm gonna discuss it with my friend during the trip. :)

This is a very big comparo (great job Mopar) and i needed some time before i could answer.

Firstly i can't imagine taking a tent and food for one day in car like Audi R8 there is only place for driver and nothing else, that's why i wouldn't take any of these Le Mans prototypes. From the rest of the cars i would consider two of them that i like very much and i think they would be good for that race.

First the McLaren F1 GT:
advantages: plenty of room for stuff i would need during the race
very good engine from BMW
good reliability
disadvantages: not very stable at high speeds

Second the Maserati MCC:
advantages: not so much place like in McLaren but i think enough
very good engine from Ferrari
much more stable at high speeds then McLaren
disadvantages: the reliability which is a big question because the car hadn't been raced much and i don't know if it has a good reliability

After all i think i would take the risk and buy Maserati.

the F1 GT is MADE for high speeds. It better be stable, or i'll be pissed :evil:

I read test in Road & Track and they were searching for the fastest street legal car in america and the test driver Mario Andretti said that McLaren F1 is unstable at high speeds, here's exactly what he said:

"Overall, a very impressive car. But I was really surprised at how aerodynamically unstable it was. Absolutly unstable. I was taking the corners at about 200 mph, but probably could have taken them quite a bit quicker if the back end hadn't wanted to keep hanging itself out. This really caught me by surprise. I never thought it was going to move around the way it did."

But that was normal McLaren F1 not GT so maybe in GT version they made something with that problem.

Mopar is right, the Midwest is absolutely bare.. even more so than West Texas, which is saying alot. The only "scenic" areas are to the east and west. I would know, I took a road trip from Seattle, Washington to Montepelier, Vermont, down to Boca Raton, Florida, and then across to Austin, Texas. Thats 8,000 miles total. 1/2 of that was spent looking down MILES and MILES of open land with nothing in sight.

Ghalos, you seemed to be swelling with pride over your choice of the C5R. A couple of questions, where the hell are you going to sleep? Are you just going to sleep bare naked on the ground and stop every two hours to pick up some food? Because you can forget about carrying ANYTHING in that little coupe. My choice isnt perfect, ill admit, (HKS Altezza) but it sure kicks the crap out of wearing that same racing suit everyday (no room for spare clothes) and sleeping on the cold, hard, damp ground with no pillow. You can wave that American flag while I sleep in comfort with my food, water, gas, clothes, and bedding. And I hope you dont mind foxes, skunks, bears, javelins, birds, deer, rabbits, and insects, because they are going to be all over you. :lol:

hahahah he's got a point. You said your passngers seat would be a microwave/fridge combo.

Good point on the midwest being bare and flat, but I'm talking more about Colorado, and the Dakota's. With the rockies in the background it's fantastic.

As for my choice. [/quote]Behind the seats would be a full army-esque tent with sleeping supplies and showering supplies.[quote]

There's enough room, because there's barely anything back there except air and cross bracing, plus the rollcage, and exhaust system. Alternatively I could slap it right between the tailights using duct tape. :lol: Or not...hehehe...As for sleeping in the nude and my food thing, for one I'm carrying my microwave fridge combo thing so I can carry food and eat whenever I want.
Annnnnnd: Mopar saaaays: All supplies for the day must be carried by the driver in the car. The next days supplies will be issued the night before.

See, we're all car freaks here, for the most part we are. And I've thought up this type of race maannnnny times before, and that's why I've got my plan pretty well figured out I think. And yes, I'm waving the American flag around like a big dork, and if that offends anyone well, I can't retract what I've said before. Not willingly, but the point is that the C5R has got the best BALANCE of everything in that list as far as the car that I think, IN MY SIMPLE OPINION really could win that race. The other cars that are more comfy I believe would simply not be able to keep up with the C5R. In a race like this, to win, the C5R in my national-pride laden opinion is what I'll take.

Also, one of the reason's I pointed out the whole R8 v C5R thing is to spark some frickin' conversation in this well researched, thought out comparison that IMO deserves way better response than it's getting... :?

So I'm sorry if I rubbed people the wrong way with my "dominating" tone, I didn't mean to.

Yeah, remeber, this is a topic mainly about cars and such, but it's also strategy and planning. Thats why you need to give your desicions some serious thought, or else you should be prepared to face some sort of argument.

One question : As in drag racers, do Le Mans racers use enlargened gas tanks for better range? And if so, wouldn't this tank extend into the "trunk" that the C5 has? :lol:

I'm not sure, I'd assume it'd use some sort of different racing tank though. :?

Either way, a folded up tent is like 3 feet long, and about 4 inches wide. A pillow?? I could use that extra padding in the seats for it. I've been trying to find some pics of the C5R's interior...To no avail... :cry:

Well like i said before, if the car can't handle the fuel minimums, then you'll have to modify it. Come up with a verbal design. If you can, make a design in paint and post it.

Okay, I made my decision: For me it would be the Ferrari 575 GTC.

It came down to three: The Viper, the Corvette and the Ferrari. I actually couldn't choose between those so i choose the european Ferrari. Only because i'm european too :P
I didn't choose a LMP car because i need a little bit more room then that. (I've seen the cockpit from the R8 and it's so small).
I also didn't choose a car with a turbo, because there is a bigger possibility to get problems with them.
Then i looked at the cars reliability. The Corvette, the Ferrari and the Viper are very good in that aspect. The Corvette and the Ferrari both won 24 hour races. The Viper also drove a 24 hour race(at Spa-Francorchamps) and didn't have any problems.
And they also have a little room to take supplies with me. And for the supplies: I'll get some information at a doctor before the race, who can also tell me what the best food is during the race.
And now just hope that it really happens [-o<

i wanted to add another car to the mix. This one totally slipped my mind. It's kind of a pseudo racecar. I can't tell if it was an early attempt at a supercar or what. But i do know it's fast as hell and it looks like it'd own on the track.

2000 Saleen SR

Price: $158,000
Miles Per Gallon: 12/21 mpg
Curb Weight: 3100 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement: 5800 cc
Horsepower: 505 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 500 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.8 sec @ 123 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 202 mph

This would probably be one of my top choices.

I think you should also have added the Lister Storm. That would bring the total at 45 cars :P

Whoa, Mopar are you sure about that gas milage? Thats as good as a stock Mustang.. :shock:

Im guessing thats cause of the chip and cam timmings, or that mopar couldnt be bothered finding the proper milage :wink: From that angle it looks like the lights are a straight lift off from an AU Falcon

yes, that is the real fuel mileage. I find it perplexing too. However, keep in mind the Viper gets 10/20mpg, and it has two more cylinders. So it is realistic.

And, like i said before, if you have an idea for a car, post the specs and such.

I'm not sure if I like that or just hate it...hmmm...

And, like i said before, if you have an idea for a car, post the specs and such.

I guess that is directed to me :P

1999 Lister Storm GT
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Cylinders: V12
Displacement: 6996 cc
Horsepower: 560 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 520 lb-ft @ 4000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.2 sec

http://www.fast-autos.net/lister/stormgt4.jpg

Ok, i've made my final choice. I would choose.............................the spyker C8 double 12. I choose this over all others because:

1. It's just a really really cool looking car

2. It's 4 liter V-8 has plenty of horsepower, but not so much that it's going to burn a mile per gallon of fuel.

3. It's as lighter than a 360 CS, but with about 200 more horsepower. Therefore, the top speed of this car is a hefty 205mph. This means a solid and comfortable cruise speed of around 190mph. The Spyker can keep up with the big dogs, but still keep me comfortable.

4. There's plenty of room for supplies and such. I'm guessing the cabin is about the size of a 360's totally stripped out. Of course, you have to have a racing seat. But thats it. Plenty of room for supplies.

5. it has a 22 gallon gas tank. The average fuel mileage under race conditions (like lemans and such) is about 5mpg. So under a full tank, you could easilly go 100 miles before a refuel. And thats under race conditions, which is running the engine over it's entire rev range, but would burn fuel like nobodies business. Going flat out at a comfortable engine speed for a sustained period of time would produce a much better fuel mileage.

Thats about it. My supplies would be simple. A small tent would easilly fit in the cabin. A small pillow and a sleeping bag would also fit. Since i'm always drinking something, i'd have to have a huuuuge supply of beverages. So a large cooler full of sandwiches and soda and red bull and stuff would be on the top of my supply list. I'd have to bring about 800 cd's because i don't trust MP3 players. Bathroom supplies are easy. All i'm going to do is bring toilet paper. If i need to do my business, i'll just pull over and go on the side of the road. Keep in mind this whole highway thing hasn't opened yet, so it'll be pretty vacant. I'll bring shampoo cause if i need to take a shower, i'll use extra water that i get every day i respupply.

So i think that was pretty tought out. I forgot to mention that i'd buy two of these such cars to make a team. The rules said nothing about making a team, but it never said you couldn't. If one car breaks down, you have another to finish. Simple as that.

I was also thinking about the Spyker, but it had major problems in the 24 hours race at Le Mans, and already in the first few hours. That's why i didn't choose it. Still good that you choose a Dutch car 8)

i wanted to add another car to the mix. This one totally slipped my mind. It's kind of a pseudo racecar. I can't tell if it was an early attempt at a supercar or what. But i do know it's fast as hell and it looks like it'd own on the track.

2000 Saleen SR

Price: $158,000
Miles Per Gallon: 12/21 mpg
Curb Weight: 3100 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Supercharged V8
Displacement: 5800 cc
Horsepower: 505 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 500 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.8 sec @ 123 mph
Skidpad: 1.06g
Top Speed: 202 mph

This would probably be one of my top choices.

looks like a riced tiburon imo

Maybe the headlights, but other than that, you must be insane. :shock:

yeah what are you talking about? That has as much tiburon in it as it does F-150.

oh, by the way, you'll also need a cooling system for both you and the car. Just a heads up if you still want to post in this topic.

Dont get annoyed at me for re-starting an old topic but i just cant waste Mopar's effort in finding and posting that amount of exotic machinery.

As for now i'll go for the BMW M3 GTR
For one, it would have enough boot space for me to survive on
then its got a N/A V8, and hopefully use less fuel than the V10s and 12s so I'll last longer

As it is not forced induced I'm hoping the engine will last the race.
Here's my 2 cents

btw, my mind might change becasue most of the cars i'm not familiar with

look them up on fastautos.net

ok
after my exams i'll research everyone of them and give you a defininite

I really wanted to say R8 but I've been thinking about this comparo since I read the post last week and my bottom line is F1.


http://www.mclarencars.com/content/video/twof.mov
(I think there was more and he chickened out:-)

The Porsche 911 GT1

dauer 962...the fastest road car on the list

WOW.THis is old.But i guess no harm reviving it.I'll choose the M3 GTR.Man.....check out it's nurburgring record.For a road legal car i think i'll choose the Speed 12.

Damn!! Too much information!! I'll go with the R8.


P.S: GREAT THREAD!!!!!!

boring................................

Mopar you cant expect us to narrow it down too one, its way to hard.

I would go either: 575 GTC, 360 GTC, DIablo GTR, CLK GTR, Mclaren, R8
or the Gemballa, its too hard to choose, but i will take the 575 becuase i love Ferrari Maranello's

AAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! i cant choose :confused: there r so many great cars there! i'll come bk to this thread

Ps. great thread

I would take the Gemballa.
In the passanger foot place I would put my sleeping bag and small tent.
I'm not sure but it might still have back seats for food, water and clothes storage.
In the passenger seat I would have water and coke to stay awake. And some food.
The car has great performance.
I thank the Murci R-GT should be in this.
Do you have any pics of the interior?
I can't find any.

i think i would have the Diablo GTR
Maserati MCC
Dodge Viper competition coupe
BMW M3 GTR
TVR Speed 12
Ferrari 360 GTC
just to to name a few

great thread, hard to chose which ONES i like.

the audi R8 would definately be on that list, ill get back to this thread after nextweek when i goto ALMS @ Laguna Seca!!!!!!!!!
:D:D:D:D:D

Ill take the 787B..

wow, this is old as hell.

good god....my head hurts.

What about V8 Supercars.
I think they should be in here.
Heres some links to info.
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/technical/rules/2005update/v8ss/ChampHoldenVZ.pdf
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/technical/rules/2005update/v8ss/ChampFordBAFalcon.pdf

because they arn't fast enough to compare...

What about V8 Supercars.
I think they should be in here.
Heres some links to info.
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/technical/rules/2005update/v8ss/ChampHoldenVZ.pdf
http://www.v8supercar.com.au/technical/rules/2005update/v8ss/ChampFordBAFalcon.pdf
I usually dont watch the superV8's, but today i watched the Super cheap auto 1000, are there always that many crashes are 30 laps! that betta electical car got hit hard with that tyre.

I'm digging this thing up for the benefit of the new people on SCF that never got to really understand this truly *ground shaking* thread Mopar made.
And don't you dare think this is going to happen alot.

This is also what I'd like to see more of from newer members:

Quality posts over a large quantity...

I post nonsense here...sorry mopar...
Ghalos...this is a old thread isn't it...but nvm...you wanted to let the new members see ain't...

Too...many...cars...cant...pick....prope rly.....*wait, what happened to the DBR9?!*

I post nonsense here...sorry mopar...
Ghalos...this is a old thread isn't it...but nvm...you wanted to let the new members see ain't...


I purposefully searched for it for a good 15 minutes in order to show people how a really good thread is done, a lack of spamming can lead to good topics, and what happens when you focus on a topic for awhile. It leaves a good impression. =)

Plus I remember Mopar spent, no joke, something like five hours making this thing...

You are such a good mod...good job mopar !
Ghalos you Misconseption thread is a good job too !
Congrats to you both.

Too...many...cars...cant...pick....prope rly.....*wait, what happened to the DBR9?!*


This came out before the DB9R was made. ;)

R8.. phewww... that was really... hmm... WEIRD.. to many...

I'll take an Elise Sports Racer and strap a Civic Type R motor to it. Liveable moreso than a full on racecar, 220bhp, ~1800 lbs, good gas mileage. Sounds like a plan to me.

http://www.autoclub.com.au/uploaded_images/lotus-elise-sports-racer-712228.jpg

ghalos im ashamed of u!![-X
u should know better being a supermod, this thread is a fossil hang your head in shame!!

only jokin this is a cool thread, if it were me i would take a 612ferrari, i dont like them but they are fast enough to compete will have room for luggage and will be comfortable, if there were more chances to refuel i would take the bug veyron for the comfort and speed. a lm racer would kick ass but would have no room for my mini fridge and cold coke aswell as bacon sandwiches and mars bars

Give me the most expensive one, so that way when I sell it I can laugh my way to the bank with around million dollars. Oh yes, that will be a good day.

The Double 12. It's the most comfortable car of those.

But since we're starting not to pick from the list anyway, I'd take the new 599 Fiorano.

So how come the lotus GT1 has got a twin turbo V8 and its still only putting out 350 hp thats a bit patheic if u ask me, concidering a Monaro is normaly aspriated at puts out 400hp.

where is this thread going.
i see ppl r picking cars from.....??
there r 43 cars on that list.the cars u ppl r choosing r not even in the same class...lol
as for 43 cars.i'll take th 787B.
mazda's answer to le mans.or shud i say japan's answer to le mans.(ok it was designed by the british).i jus love that car.eveything about it is so damn amazing.ne one got any problems with rotary...talk to the 787B.

Stick to cars on the MASSIVE list people. And half the road cars you're picking aren't going to stand a chance.

Read the scenario first, then decide.

I appreciate the thought, Ghalos. I'm humbled that you're using me as a role model for what a good thread is.

However, I can't honestly say that this was my best "work". I've matured a bit since I made this, and looking back on it, it wasn't written very well. First off, this race would be next to impossible for every driver. What was it, like, 10,000 miles? It'd take months. Second, these cars are pretty lame. I just got a bunch off a couple of sites. True, it did take 5 hours or something. But it was a waste of time. I made this thread just because I wanted to make the biggest ever, not to educate and promote outside thought.

I know it's not your "best", but it's quality, you took time to do it, that's the important thing.

does my "first annual scf awards" thread come anywhere up there in the top??

Nope...I don't think so...
So who is the winners ?

Wow.. I suck at writing. (or atleast used to)

^We all did.

ahh was i supposed to read all that?

I'm digging this thing up for the benefit of the new people on SCF that never got to really understand this truly *ground shaking* thread Mopar made.
And don't you dare think this is going to happen alot.

This is also what I'd like to see more of from newer members:

Quality posts over a large quantity...

you shouldn't have bumped it my head hurts....

There's some reasoning behind my choice and some... well.. yeah, I picked one.

For me, all the fancy LM02's and speed 8's are sweet and all but hardly practical.
Imagine you have to sit in the car for quite a while so it needs to be equipped with a decent seat.

Next, it's cross country meaning yuo will not always be driving on perfect streets.

In order to make a bit of a chance stopping at every gas station you can find will hardly do you any good.

This narrowed down the available options quite abit and left me with a few cars to pick from.

I chose the prettiest one.
The McLaren F1 GT

well i would either chose between the:
Dahlback Racing Golf RSi: 900hp plus the handling of the AWD and you'll probably be able to fit quite a bit in the hatch...or whats left of it.
Corvette C5R: if it can go constantly during a 24hr race, then im sure a trip across the country wont be that much of a problem.
Saleen S7R: i just love the Saleen and wouldnt mind driving one across the country.
Tommy Kaira ZZII: 550hp with AWD with the weight of 1500lbs very impressive and rare...i think i would take it just cause its so rare...just the rest of the others arent right...any ways

and the winner is.... the Dahlback Racing Golf RSi. it weight as much as a regular street car, is fast, and could fit quite a bit of stuff in the hatch....and i think driving a 900hp AWD Golf would be an experience.