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SpeedMuse
Sep 06, 2004, 10:49 PM
If you think this is a Mercedes comparison then back out now, this is much much more. Two cars and two cousins, and you get to decide the victor. But to be a little more serious and to stop hyping this up I'm gunna get down to business... My cousin(MattMerce) and I are both car buffs and get to talking smack to one another, nothing serious, its all in good fun. And we dont cruise around in your crappy Supra or RX-7, oh no. We hit the streets hard with our '98 Volkswagen Golf GL and our '93 Honda Civic EX. And since we both get to drive pretty soon I figured this would be the perfect time and place to settle this once and for all. Here are the sick numbers, try not to sh*t yourself...

'93 Honda Civic EX sedan:
1.6L 4-cylinder V-TEC engine
HP: 125
Torque: 106 lb-ft
HP per Litre: 78.125
Miles to date: about 182k
Weight: at least 2500lbs :)
Worth as of 2 years ago: Maybe a few hundred bucks, but to me its priceless...

'98 Volkswagen Golf GL
2.0L 4-cylinder
HP: 115
Torque: 122 lb-ft
HP per Litre: 57.5
Miles to date: about 82k
Weight: at least 2600lbs :)
Worth as of 2 years ago: $7k

I'm leaving the pics up to Matt so that this is somewhat fair.
And now its up to u all to decide "who would win." I'd like to compare straight line (1/4 mile ok?), cornering, and of course style. Oh and get ready for one of the most exciting slow races of your life! Let the cousin car bashing and dissing begin, but keep it clean and in good fun...

dark_hunter
Sep 06, 2004, 10:53 PM
We hit the streets hard with our '98 Volkswagen Golf GL and our '93 Honda Civic EX. And since we both get to drive pretty soon I figured this would be the perfect time and place to settle this once and for all. Here are the sick numbers, try not to sh*t yourself...Wait, Do you have your licenses?
I’m confused :?

Ghalos
Sep 06, 2004, 10:59 PM
Not yet it seems, but ya'll should call me up, I'll swing by in my Probe!!! hahahah... Anyways, I'm all for the Golf, it's got half as many miles, simple as that. 8)

Attaus
Sep 06, 2004, 11:02 PM
The weights are off.. the Civic is atleast 2500 and the Golf is atleast 2600. Wow. You guys are big pimpin' in those hot rides. :wink: J/K. Those are not bad starter cars. Personally, I am partial to a Golf because I am sick of hearing about Civics although it is not a bad car.. Will it win in a straight line? I have no idea.. But whoever owns the Golf needs to watch the suspension.. carefully.. Was the V-TEC available in 1993? :lol:

BTW, this is post #700. :o

SpeedMuse
Sep 06, 2004, 11:06 PM
Ok I'll fix the weights. And no we dont have our licenses, I was joking about hitting the streets and stuff. I get my permit in 4 months Matt gets his in a few weeks. And yea as far as I know the V-Tec was available in '93. I'll look around to confirm this theory...

MattMerce
Sep 06, 2004, 11:07 PM
He means we will, I get my permit in 2 weeks and he gets his in December.

Anyway here's the golf, picture this black and with about 16inch rims since they'll be added soon:
http://fp.images.autos.msn.com/merismus/gallery/c431888a.jpg

The civic, but imagine it red with stock rims and no car bra:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/escapedriver/images/civic.jpg

SpeedMuse
Sep 06, 2004, 11:09 PM
Scratch the spoiler as well, but the Civic does have a moon-roof.

BTW Post #400
Woot Woot

MattMerce
Sep 06, 2004, 11:10 PM
But whoever owns the Golf needs to watch the suspension.. carefully..I know, it's extremely low to the ground. The golf as well has a moon roof, it has the stock spoiler too.

Attaus
Sep 06, 2004, 11:13 PM
I know who owns which car.. 8)

mattwrx100
Sep 06, 2004, 11:14 PM
Mattmerce owns the Golf SpeedMuse owns the Civic. since I've been in the Golf I'm gonna go w/ it :D and I like it better than the Civic no offense

dark_hunter
Sep 06, 2004, 11:20 PM
The Golf, I'm really tiered of seeing the Civic

SpeedMuse
Sep 06, 2004, 11:21 PM
None taken. Its not like either car is gunna go all that fast lol. Matt, you may own the most powerful SUV and 4-wheel drive vechicle in the Mercincavage family with your fancy Kia Sportage :lol: but when it comes to our cars I'm not budging. Civic for me, like I have a choice...

SubaruKid37
Sep 07, 2004, 5:10 AM
The Golf, I'm really tiered of seeing the Civic
Yeah, I got to go with this as well, but both nice cars :)

faisal
Sep 07, 2004, 5:22 AM
civic for me as i dont like the old golf & like the older civic to the newer ones

Dimitris
Sep 07, 2004, 6:19 AM
civic!!! i am just fun of jap cars

jimkk29
Sep 07, 2004, 8:55 AM
Civic for me please, I'm not too fond of older generation golfs. 8)
Only disadvantages for the Civic: too old and TOO many miles. :?

Ghalos
Sep 07, 2004, 11:17 AM
Age isn't really a problem with cars like those two, just wear and tear. If you got the choice between two cars with 150k mileson one and half as much on the other. One was beaten daily but cared for religiously. Whereas the other was driven lightly but cared for only once in a while. You should get the one with the better care. But in this case, I have a feeling that's not the case with the Civic. But dude, go to a Walmart and pick up yourself some of those *fiiiiine* plastic 15-inch "chrome" "rims". I did it once to my friends Civic, and put a folgers can on its muffler, heheh. :lol:

SpeedMuse
Sep 07, 2004, 3:10 PM
Both cars have been well taken care of. The Civic was my dad's at first, then my sister's so it's a little beat up but was looked after and runs just fine. I see me taking it past 200k miles before I ditch it for something else. But I will admit that I am going to need to get the Civic detailed. It just has your average "high school kid's car" dirtyness, an easy fix...

MattMerce
Sep 07, 2004, 6:27 PM
The golf is in fine condition too. We bought it used about 2 years ago for my sister, the person who sold it to us cried as we drove away :lol: It's also pretty clean since my sister cleared it out before she left for college.

mattwrx100
Sep 07, 2004, 6:36 PM
Speedmuse what is your car Auto or Manual?

MattMerce
Sep 07, 2004, 9:18 PM
It's a 5 speed manual as is mine.

SpeedMuse
Sep 07, 2004, 10:10 PM
Speedmuse what is your car Auto or Manual?
5 Speed Manual with overdrive.

SpeedMuse
Sep 08, 2004, 9:59 PM
I finally found something to back up my VTEC claim:
"The top-rung EX 4-door carried a 1.6-liter four with variable valve timing, plus antilock brakes."
Not the best site in the world to draw information from but it was the 1st place I found it...
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/photos/index.cfm/id/2049/img/95802031990208

mattwrx100
Sep 08, 2004, 10:39 PM
Its the same place i found Info about my car just another question Does your engine sound and run good and hows the exhaust holding up b/c my friend has the same car except its a base model civic and the engine just doesnt sound right and the exhauts looks ok but it sound just God awful sounds like he's having problems w/ it

SpeedMuse
Sep 08, 2004, 11:32 PM
As far as I know it runs fine. I remember there being a problem with the muffler a little while back, but that was fixed. And yeah when there was a problem it was loud as hell and sounded terrible... all in the past now thankfully...

SpeedMuse
Sep 21, 2004, 7:29 PM
This might be considered bringing back an older topic, but I finally got the Civic from my sister. Today I started cleaning it and figured at some point I should take some digital pics. I post some soon.

Anyways the # of miles on the Civic is 182k. It ran fine for the entire 6 hour trip home from Boston. That's it...

MattMerce
Sep 21, 2004, 8:14 PM
I'll take my permit test this weekend. Hopefully my camera will get fixed or replaced soon so I can take pics of the golf.

mattwrx100
Sep 21, 2004, 11:24 PM
cool I would like to see the civic speedmuse b/c of my friends just to see if there is any simlairities between the cars but his is probably in much worse condition

SpeedMuse
Oct 12, 2004, 9:46 PM
I finally took those digital picks I'd been talking about. And I know just how much all you guys wanted to see this car, so I figured I'd bring back this dead topic. :wink:
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/4633/Civicrearquarter.jpg
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/605/Civicprofile.jpg
And here comes the really weak part, but I had to post it.
http://img66.exs.cx/img66/7563/Civicstockenginebay.jpg
Intimidating, huh?
Well with some cleaning, slight modding, and other work this car could work out just fine for me...

Kirstyn
Oct 12, 2004, 9:53 PM
damn those 14in. steel rims are hot

SpeedMuse
Oct 12, 2004, 9:57 PM
:)
At least they're better than those $20 Wal-Mart Spinners.... or are they? :wink:

Kirstyn
Oct 12, 2004, 10:17 PM
:)
At least they're better than those $20 Wal-Mart Spinners.... or are they? :wink:

i dont know about that, those are pretty pimp, your big ballin when you roll up in them spinnas

puggles89
Oct 12, 2004, 10:25 PM
damn those 14in. steel rims are hot

hub caps not rims. I almost bought my sister crappy $20 hubcaps as a joke for X-mes. now she owns a ford taurus that has rims :shock: .

Kirstyn
Oct 12, 2004, 10:53 PM
damn those 14in. steel rims are hot

hub caps not rims. I almost bought my sister crappy $20 hubcaps as a joke for X-mes. now she owns a ford taurus that has rims :shock: .

they are steel rims with hubcaps on them

MattMerce
Oct 15, 2004, 8:11 PM
My Golf actually does have pretty nice rims, 15s I think but that's plenty big on a car that size in my opinion. They're seven spokes. I don't have any pics of though, hopefully I'll get a digital to borrow sometime soon.