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looserdude4
Jul 09, 2007, 3:19 PM
I was reading the paper and I found this in the Chicago Tribune and I figured I might as well post it.



As yet another tale of celebrity spawn gone wild, the arrest Wednesday of Albert Gore III -- son of the former vice president -- on suspicion of drug possession was routine except for one, rather mind-blowing detail: Gore was clocked in a blue Toyota Prius hybrid traveling on the southbound Golden State Freeway (Interstate 5) in Orange County, Calif., in excess of 100 m.p.h.

"One hundred and five, actually," said Orange County sheriff's spokesman Jim Amormino. "I think it's slightly downhill there."



http://www.chicagotribune.com/images/clear.gifhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/images/clear.gifThe former vice president Thursday declared his love for his son, said Albert III was receiving treatment and added that the family was "going to leave it as a private matter."

Which was just as well. The Prius, not Gore, was the news.

Gore's cruel caning of Toyota's greener-than-thou hybrid -- powered by a small four-cylinder engine and electric motor that together produce about 125 horsepower -- rippled through talk radio and the blogosphere Thursday. Many were simply amazed.

"How in the world do you get a Toyota Prius to go 100 m.p.h. without a cliff to go over?" asked Rush Limbaugh.

Others wondered if the episode represented some kind of viral marketing coup for Toyota.

"Everybody must realize the incredible serendipity effect the Al Gore Jr. [III, actually] in-a-Toyota-Prius-going-100-m.p.h. story will have on this car?" said one of dozens of posters on a heavily trafficked Priuschat.com Web site. "If Toyota is smart, they'll have a specially prepared Prius Pace Car for the next Indy 500."

Actually, the Prius -- the unofficial merit badge of environmentally conscious Californians and officially the most fuel-efficient car on the road -- is capable of going even faster, according to Mike Michels, spokesman for Toyota. But the car, which uses an electric booster, is speed-limited to

103 m.p.h. to avoid depleting the battery.

"It can go 103 m.p.h. indefinitely," he said. At least until the gas runs out.

A check of statistics compiled by Car and Driver magazine suggests that the slowest car on the road is not the Prius, but the hairy-chested AM General Hummer H1, with a top speed of only 88 m.p.h.

The question remains, why is the Prius such a screaming hot rod?

In part, it's a reflection of the state of the automotive technology, which as it has raised benchmarks for handling, safety and comfort has also driven up, perhaps inadvertently, absolute performance levels.

"If I went 100 m.p.h. in my 1983 Oldsmobile Delta 88, it would probably shake its bolts loose," said Russ Rader, spokesman for the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety. "Cars are much better now."

Another factor is the increasingly globalized car market. The Prius has to meet driver expectations in Europe, where the highways have higher speed limits and, in some places, no limit at all.

But for Prius advocates, the Gore affair underscores a point they have tried to make all along: Efficiency is just another way to spell performance.

The Prius is, for example, one of the most aerodynamically optimized vehicles on the road, with a low 0.26 coefficient of drag. That means the car doesn't require a lot of horsepower to push through the air.

The car also rides on tires with low "rolling resistance," which lessens friction between the rubber and the road. It's also a bantamweight, weighing only 2,932 pounds, among the lightest cars on the market.

"The way the car is optimized," says Michels, "from aero resistance to rolling resistance, cooling systems, the powertrain itself, all of those things any hot-rodder is interested in as making the car go faster."

And, although it's probably no comfort to young Gore, his arrest is being seen by some as a testament to the little Prius' performance and, shall we say, absence of wuss. "Now there's proof positive the Prius can GO," wrote a poster on Priuschat.com. "At least the bashers can't say the car is pokey or slow."




Big deal. A pruis can do 105 in a strait line down hill. It's not a sportscar you blithering dip wads, a '70 Gremlin can do 109. I'll call it slow and pokey as long as I can safely say that it would not be able to catch up to a Gremlin.

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Bravodor
Jul 09, 2007, 3:30 PM
I was reading the paper and I found this in the Chicago Tribune and I figured I might as well post it.




Big deal. A pruis can do 105 in a strait line down hill. It's not a sportscar you blithering dip wads, a '70 Gremlin can do 109. I'll call it slow and pokey as long as I can saftley say that it would be able to catch up to a Gremlin.

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hell yeah its slow, 105 is nothing for 130 HP.

Simply put.

E-TEC 4
Jul 09, 2007, 3:41 PM
Hell, my car is probably not as "performanced" as a Prius but I have pushed it to 105 and I could've gone even faster (and probably tick the governor at 120) if the road was emptier.

But I wouldn't have figured that a Prius was limited to "103 MPH". For a car that's meant to be economical, it's still pretty fast. However, I think I read in a car magazine (it was either Super Street or Modified Mag) that there was a turbo Prius built for drag-racing.

Ghalos
Jul 09, 2007, 4:11 PM
My old car, the Ford Probe, with it's weak 150 or so bhp and four pistons got to over 120 a couple times and oh yeah, still got about 30mpg.

However, Toyota does need to point out to the automotive industry, especially hot hatch makers, that Chapman was right all along in proving less weight and good aerodynamics means you can have your performance and good fuel ratings at the same time.

Ironic though, I said to my dad when I originally read this in the paper a few days ago, "I'm wondering how he got a Prius to do 100mph..."

Hehe.

tubby_canna
Jul 10, 2007, 1:31 AM
...However, I think I read in a car magazine (it was either Super Street or Modified Mag) that there was a turbo Prius built for drag-racing...

You're might be thinking of the landspeed Prius:

http://www.carpages.co.uk/toyota/toyota_images/toyota_prius_24_12_04.jpg

ENGINE
Gasoline Engine 1.5-liter, 4-cylinder, twin-cam, DOHC 16-valve EFI with VVT-i, aluminum-alloy block and head
Torque 97 lb.-ft. @ 4,200 rpm
Horsepower 96 hp @ 5,800 rpm
ELECTRIC MOTOR/GENERATOR/POWER STORAGE
Motor Type Permanent Magnet Synchronous Motor
Electric Motor Power Output 50kW/1,2000 – 1,540 rpm
Torque 295 lb.-ft. @ 1-1,200 rpm
Battery type Nickel-metal hydride
System voltage 550 volts maximum
SUSPENSION
Front Independent MacPherson strut suspension with stabilizer bar, Eibach Racing coil springs, Bilstein shock absorbers
Rear Torsion Beam with stabilizer bar, Eibach Racing coil springs, Bilstein shock absorbers
Tires 25 and 26-inch Goodyear Eagle Landspeed Record tiresIt did a landspeed run a Bonneville Salt Flats in August 04' and managed 130.794 mph on the 3 mile short course.

The Article I Stooged The Stats From (http://hybridcars.about.com/od/news/a/priuslandspeed.htm)

AaronH
Jul 10, 2007, 2:13 AM
My 89 Toyota Pickup had a whopping 114hp, and even with a 7inch lift and 35" BFG A/T's, I could run that thing 110 all day. That's pretty sad for the Prius.

Then again, it is 3 times more expensive and harmful than an H1.

GT King
Jul 10, 2007, 3:51 AM
Yeah, big deal, 105mph in a Prius is definitely possible. On a road with no elevation change then it can only go 103 since it's limited to that speed, but obviously that road was a little downhill so that might have boosted it to 105mph, but i'm pretty sure it might go even faster than that if the road was more downhill.

road asshole
Jul 10, 2007, 4:07 AM
I don't think gore 3 was riding downhill. i'm gussing gore 2 fitted a recycled-material turbocharger on gore 3's prius just to make it go at 105mph.

AWDfreak
Jul 10, 2007, 4:54 AM
Wow, the tree-huggers are bragging about how it's so "fast", LOL!!!

Seriously, most cars these days can go beyond 120. Big f***ing deal. It's 0-60 time would be considered fast anytime before the 70's sports cars, not the 21st century rockets we have. Whoever wrote that article instantly thinks the Prius is a performance car just because it can reach 105MPH, wtf?.....

EDIT: Also, I absolutely hate it when people use words in vain, not knowing what the hell it means/is, especially "hot-rod" and "turbo". Sheesh.....

allone
Jul 10, 2007, 9:48 AM
Wow, the prius can do 100+! Do you realize just how fast 100mph is? That's like...illegal fast. That may be why I have yet to see one of those FnF style wings on them...they would probably take off and fly. :eek:

Time to trade in my car. Friendly to the environment PLUS being able to "hot rod" it around town.

It may take me a good couple minutes and atleast 5 miles of straight away that is either flat or slightly downhill, but being able to hit 100mph, that's just amazing. I've never known of another car able to do so, especially in such a small amount of time.

And wow, it only weighs about 2,932 pounds, "among the lightest cars on the market" that is very impressive. That's soo much less than my girlfriends new civic, which only weighs in at 2,654 lbs. (oops forget those 278lbs, they don't mean anything, it won't have an effect on anything)

I think I am going to wait until they do release an indy500 pace car street version though, that would be soo sweet.

Car_buff
Jul 10, 2007, 12:43 PM
why is the Prius such a screaming hot rod?



ahahahahah


roflcopter, saotglmfao, hahahaha

not just hot rod

screaming hot rod

what a dumbass. my 20 year old cherokee can go faster, no one on earth has ever said anything remotley near it being a hot rod