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sonicadg
Feb 26, 2007, 1:23 PM
http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/02/stories/06/1.html

there, theres even a little video,

Driftster
Feb 26, 2007, 1:49 PM
I think that's possibly one of the most elegant F1 cars i've seen in a LONG time...

bennyboy
Feb 26, 2007, 1:56 PM
I can't get over how amazingly brilliant this looks. It's a totally radical idea, painting cars like this, and I hope it will catch onto other cars, because I reckon this is going to be a success.

Lp640
Feb 26, 2007, 2:02 PM
lokks amazing and you won't have any trouble identifying it

sonicadg
Feb 26, 2007, 2:57 PM
lets see how long they last without proper sponsership, F1 lives and breathes depending on sponsership

NV85
Feb 26, 2007, 3:02 PM
lets see how long they last without proper sponsership, F1 lives and breathes depending on sponsership
The sponsors will remain, but not on the cars, just in the drivers suits and in the pits, besides Red Bull doesn't have any sponsors and they are running 2 teams at the same time...

Lp640
Feb 26, 2007, 3:02 PM
^ true it does most of the cars development is designed using the sponsers money

Timbit
Feb 26, 2007, 3:12 PM
Er, Honda + Google = megabucks. I don;t think they'll have any financial problems in the future :)

NV85
Feb 26, 2007, 3:15 PM
Er, Honda + Google = megabucks. I don;t think they'll have any financial problems in the future :)
Is Google an official sponsor? All I've heard is that the images used on the car where form Google Earth.

frewin1987
Feb 26, 2007, 3:16 PM
wow, that's the new Honda F1?! crazy paint job! damn i bet that's complicated and expensive!!

Timbit
Feb 26, 2007, 3:19 PM
Is Google an official sponsor? All I've heard is that the images used on the car where form Google Earth.

Hmm, I read somewhere that they were, but I guess not. Still though, I doubt they would have gone into this without thinking about their financial situation and how a full unsponsored livery can still be used.

sonicadg
Feb 26, 2007, 3:34 PM
theres a website on the back of the wing, which is the thing hondas supporting, maybe all of there sponsers come from there

JoeProte83
Feb 26, 2007, 3:38 PM
Actually Honda doesn't have any BIG or Principal sponsorship. They where running black cars. That's why they have decided to start a "new campaign" about the environment.......

SpArKy
Feb 26, 2007, 3:51 PM
Obviously, there is nothing mad at all for trying to raise the awareness of global warning with a 3mpg car.

lol, kudos to Honda anyways, the only people even remotely trying to do anything, even though the cars are essentially not the problem.

frewin1987
Feb 26, 2007, 4:18 PM
Obviously, there is nothing mad at all for trying to raise the awareness of global warning with a 3mpg car.

lol, kudos to Honda anyways, the only people even remotely trying to do anything, even though the cars are essentially not the problem.

LOLOL! :D :D

wesleypipes
Feb 26, 2007, 4:36 PM
that's nice.
i hoped it would've been something like krom-a-lusion or some crazy 3d paint job though. go earth.

Koenigseggs Rock
Feb 26, 2007, 5:22 PM
it looks good but kinda ironic making green awareness statements on an F1 car?

carFIEND
Feb 26, 2007, 6:41 PM
Very sick idea and paint job. Cant wait to see it on T.V.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 26, 2007, 7:49 PM
That is the WORST WORST WORST paintjob i've ever seen. Even the Minardi car had a better paint job... Honda just blew it with "going Green". It's not like if they paint it that way the cars would be somewhat ECO-friendly. Just imagine a 40 mpg F1 car. that would be interesting.

Ghalos
Feb 26, 2007, 8:03 PM
I just got a cut from the sharpness of the irony.

F1 car=crap fuel mileage and high CO2 emissions.

Still, it *does* look different, I like it.

Rouin
Feb 26, 2007, 8:06 PM
the message is supposed to be similar to what a sponsor's message is. a sponsor's logo on an f1 car is supposed to influence the f1 audience to go buy that product. like... "ooh i love renault. now i should go invest my money in an ING account." or in the days of yore, "ooh, i love ferrari, i will now buy marlboros." it's the same message, with this new livery, except that this message is "save your planet" instead of "buy cigarettes." it's not hypocritical at all, to the people thinking "f1 cars aren't eco friendly." it's just as hypocritical as an f1 driver back in the day, sporting "marlboro" all over their clothing and car, but not smoking.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 26, 2007, 8:09 PM
So you're saying i should smoke Marboro? (sponser for Ferrari)
or Lucky Strikes? (former Honda sponser)
or Mild Seven? (former Renault sponser)

maybe even start drinking Johnnie Walkers...(McMerc sponser)
well RedBull is different, IT GIVES YOU WINGS! lol.

Rouin
Feb 26, 2007, 8:28 PM
well.. I'M not saying you should do anything.

that's the whole purpose of sponsorships. they are trying to get you, the avid watcher of F1, to purchase their product. I'M not telling you to do anything.

Oscar590
Feb 26, 2007, 8:34 PM
its too bad they don't have good drivers

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 26, 2007, 8:36 PM
^^ Jenson Button isnt bad. He's just with a bad team over the years. (yes honda currently suck) Unlike when they sponsered the Mclaren before with Senna in the driver seat. That was different story.

Koenigseggfan
Feb 26, 2007, 10:56 PM
The paint job for the car looks like a vinyl has been applied to the whole car. Very cool! I wonder what else you could do with that technique?

VTEC_Dreams
Feb 26, 2007, 11:06 PM
its too bad they don't have good drivers

You are such a Honda hater, dude. What's up with that, man? JB is pretty damn good. The car hasn't been up to snuff in the past couple of years, but thats because the team is basically new. Give it a little time. This year they might do a bit better, probably not, but in 2 or 3 years after they've had time to figure stuff out, everyone better watch the hell out. The big H knows what it's doing, it's just going to take a little time.

Koenigseggfan
Feb 26, 2007, 11:13 PM
You are such a Honda hater, dude. What's up with that, man? JB is pretty damn good. The car hasn't been up to snuff in the past couple of years, but thats because the team is basically new. Give it a little time. This year they might do a bit better, probably not, but in 2 or 3 years after they've had time to figure stuff out, everyone better watch the hell out. The big H knows what it's doing, it's just going to take a little time.

I have a feeling they'll move up the ranks this year for sure. Probably one spot but that is still progress. Super Aguri should be doing much better this year thanks to some Honda backing. The '07 season is going to be very interesting especially with the two new tracks F1 will visit this year.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 26, 2007, 11:17 PM
You are such a Honda hater, dude. What's up with that, man? JB is pretty damn good. The car hasn't been up to snuff in the past couple of years, but thats because the team is basically new. Give it a little time. This year they might do a bit better, probably not, but in 2 or 3 years after they've had time to figure stuff out, everyone better watch the hell out. The big H knows what it's doing, it's just going to take a little time.
no he's not a honda hater. he just think that BOTH the driver and the teams isnt up to speed yet. Besides Honda isnt really a new team. It has been here for almost 10 years? (without counting the years of Honda supplying engines)

SteveFX
Feb 26, 2007, 11:18 PM
Never in my history on this forum have I EVER seen such damp suckup to a promo video...

Talk's cheap. Let's see them race!

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 27, 2007, 1:57 AM
worst paintjob ever. no questions asked.

JoeProte83
Feb 27, 2007, 2:05 AM
you know what i see? i know im anti-hondacars but this is simple. Honda has the problem that they NEED a MAIN SPONSORSHIP. The problem also is they didn't find any. So they ask themselves how we can make money?...... ECOLOGY.... but how?.... let's have an Earth picture in the cars and open a website where you can make a donation and put you name in the car....... sound's good to me.......

That is so low lol

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 27, 2007, 2:07 AM
^^ wow you read right through them lol.

yes it is low, but hey it's working! i think.
It's a HONDA, what do you expect? (nothing much really..)

Timbit
Feb 27, 2007, 4:42 AM
Actually Honda doesn't have any BIG or Principal sponsorship. They where running black cars. That's why they have decided to start a "new campaign" about the environment.......

Yep, everything is a big conspiracy, and apparently a company can;t have an environmental conscience these days. I highly, highly doubt that Honda, of tall the teams in F1, and of all the companies in the world, would fail to find a major sponsor, considering who they are and the fact that they knew that Lucky Strike would leave the team when they did.

The reason WHY they ran black cars during testing is because it has become somewhat of a tradition for Honda to paint their cars black during winter testing. It does very well to hide aero devices and shapes from prying eyes.

BTW, this (http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070227100449.shtml) is a good rebuttal from Honda.

it looks good but kinda ironic making green awareness statements on an F1 car?

I don't see the irony. Rememeber, they AREN'T pushing for green F1 cars, but green awareness in general. Honda make cars, cars pollute the earth, Honda own an F1 team, a lot of people watch F1, Honda are pushing for environmental awareness. What better way then to show millions of people the motives of the company as a whole?

That is the WORST WORST WORST paintjob i've ever seen. Even the Minardi car had a better paint job... Honda just blew it with "going Green". It's not like if they paint it that way the cars would be somewhat ECO-friendly. Just imagine a 40 mpg F1 car. that would be interesting.

What exactly was wrong with Minardi's livery? Or are you just associating the fact that because Minardi were slow, their livery is automatically bad? As for the other comment, see above.

the message is supposed to be similar to what a sponsor's message is. a sponsor's logo on an f1 car is supposed to influence the f1 audience to go buy that product. like... "ooh i love renault. now i should go invest my money in an ING account." or in the days of yore, "ooh, i love ferrari, i will now buy marlboros." it's the same message, with this new livery, except that this message is "save your planet" instead of "buy cigarettes." it's not hypocritical at all, to the people thinking "f1 cars aren't eco friendly." it's just as hypocritical as an f1 driver back in the day, sporting "marlboro" all over their clothing and car, but not smoking.

Exactly, it's all about advertising. That's why there are sponsors in F1. That's why sponsors are on the cars, and on the driver's overalls and whatnot, so they can be seen, and so they can advertise themselves to the audience in question.

its too bad they don't have good drivers

Hmm, so much thought went into that statement.

^^ Jenson Button isnt bad. He's just with a bad team over the years. (yes honda currently suck) Unlike when they sponsered the Mclaren before with Senna in the driver seat. That was different story.

No they do not currently 'suck', they are just behind the leaders. Williams, they sucked last year, but Honda? I wouldn't consider many podiums, and a race win to come from a team that 'sucks'. Also, they didn't 'sponsor' McLare, they supplied the friggin' engines to the team!

You are such a Honda hater, dude. What's up with that, man? JB is pretty damn good. The car hasn't been up to snuff in the past couple of years, but thats because the team is basically new. Give it a little time. This year they might do a bit better, probably not, but in 2 or 3 years after they've had time to figure stuff out, everyone better watch the hell out. The big H knows what it's doing, it's just going to take a little time.

The team really isn't really new. Honda has had a presence in the team since at least 2004 (in terms of the overall team, not just the engine). In that year they were the 2nd best team behind Ferrari. Since then, even if they've officially changed from BAR Honda to just Honda, they really haven't tasted the same amount of consistency which, in my opinion, they should have already achieved.

I have a feeling they'll move up the ranks this year for sure. Probably one spot but that is still progress. Super Aguri should be doing much better this year thanks to some Honda backing. The '07 season is going to be very interesting especially with the two new tracks F1 will visit this year.

The only new track for 07 is Fuji, but still 07's gonna be pretty rockin.

no he's not a honda hater. he just think that BOTH the driver and the teams isnt up to speed yet. Besides Honda isnt really a new team. It has been here for almost 10 years? (without counting the years of Honda supplying engines)

Er, Honda took over BAR in 2006, so that makes...1 year. Plus 5 odd years in the 60's/70's.

worst paintjob ever. no questions asked.

Hmmm, says who? You?

^^ wow you read right through them lol.

yes it is low, but hey it's working! i think.
It's a HONDA, what do you expect? (nothing much really..)

What exactly do we have to expect from Honda? What exactly have they done in the past that we should expect them to apparently 'go so low'?

In fact, how is this move considered low at all? Damn, they're raising awareness of an increasingly global problem, and that's considered low? So actually having a multi-million dollar company back them instead of preaching for the environment is somehow NOT low?

CarRocker
Feb 27, 2007, 5:57 AM
That looks like they painted the car blue, and then they let the whole team puke on it....

About Honda having no sponsors, these are the ones they added this year:
Universal Music, Gatorade, Fila, IBM, Instron, Oliver Sweeney, Perkin Elmer, Showa Denko, TUV en Agie Charmilles
And then there are the ones that have stayed from last year.

Tom Kristensen
Feb 27, 2007, 8:37 AM
Man, the irony of this is so laughable I would've laughed out loud at the screen if it weren't because the sky was so damn grey.

Still... This is the most beautiful paintjob. Ever. It beats Gulf, the Psychedelic martini and the Oreca R8. Damn. It looks so good it makes me thirsty... wtf?

Double 12
Feb 27, 2007, 8:55 AM
I just got a cut from the sharpness of the irony.

F1 car=crap fuel mileage and high CO2 emissions.

Still, it *does* look different, I like it. The fuel consumption and CO2 emissions of all F1 cars in the world is nothing compared to all other cars in the world, or even compared to all cars in one country.
If Honda can change something of all the cars in the world with just this un-eco-friendly car, they've done a great job!

Not just driving the cars is environmental unfriendly, also flying the cars round the world. Other sports seem environmental cleaner, but the sportsmen also fly 10 times round the world.

Kaoss
Feb 27, 2007, 10:35 AM
Wow...that's a great paint job...amazing:D Isn't Bridgestone already a sponsor?

bennyboy
Feb 27, 2007, 10:54 AM
That is the WORST WORST WORST paintjob i've ever seen. Even the Minardi car had a better paint job... Honda just blew it with "going Green". It's not like if they paint it that way the cars would be somewhat ECO-friendly. Just imagine a 40 mpg F1 car. that would be interesting.

What the hell? It's not to do with eco-friendly F1 cars. If you could actually read you could understand what the scheme is all about.

its too bad they don't have good drivers

Jenson Button is probably one of the most talented F1 drivers ever, and you don't really have to be an expert to believe that. Stick him in a good car and he'll be at the shapr end every time, I guarantee you.

^^ Jenson Button isnt bad. He's just with a bad team over the years. (yes honda currently suck) Unlike when they sponsered the Mclaren before with Senna in the driver seat. That was different story.

Honda don't currently ''suck''. Consistent top 3 times in the past few days of winter testing is ''suckworthy'' to you, is it?

@Timbit, brilliant post man, said what I said but even better.

TWIN TURBO
Feb 27, 2007, 11:57 AM
Very nice paint job, one of the most elegant F1 cars till now.

JoeProte83
Feb 27, 2007, 6:26 PM
Yep, everything is a big conspiracy, and apparently a company can;t have an environmental conscience these days. I highly, highly doubt that Honda, of tall the teams in F1, and of all the companies in the world, would fail to find a major sponsor, considering who they are and the fact that they knew that Lucky Strike would leave the team when they did.

The reason WHY they ran black cars during testing is because it has become somewhat of a tradition for Honda to paint their cars black during winter testing. It does very well to hide aero devices and shapes from prying eyes.

BTW, this (http://www.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/news/detail/070227100449.shtml) is a good rebuttal from Honda.

Is not that they can't have a environmental conscience. But after so many decades of we humans having this problem they decide to be aware? Gosh, give me a brake......

You may highly doubt they couldn't find a Main sponsor but that's the reality. THEY COULDN'T........

clutch
Feb 27, 2007, 9:12 PM
I have to say when I saw this paint scheme I thought that it would just be a show car and maybe, just maybe it would run one race, with of course sponsor stickers. Well I was pleasantly surprised to hear that this is the full time scheme, and I love it.

The great thing is people can go to the website and plege some things and will get their names on a pixel in that vinyl. You get to choose where as well, I think it would be cool to have your name carried along, even though it will be impossible to see without a magnifying glass.


Cool stuff, and I hope the others join in.

forzamotorsport9
Feb 27, 2007, 9:29 PM
thats sweet!!!! i still think the vodafone mclaren MP4-22, the coolest f1 car today

PointBlank187
Feb 27, 2007, 10:35 PM
worst paintjob ever. no questions asked.

Yes, because you are the almighty dollar, and we must inherit your opinions on everything. Stop it :rolleyes: .

Gosh, give me a brake......

single piston?

Timbit
Feb 28, 2007, 3:01 AM
Is not that they can't have a environmental conscience. But after so many decades of we humans having this problem they decide to be aware? Gosh, give me a brake......

You may highly doubt they couldn't find a Main sponsor but that's the reality. THEY COULDN'T........

Oh? So you know, without a doubt in the world, that they couldn't find a title sponsor? Wow, you must work in their marketing department!

What do you mean that after so many decades they've decided to be aware? It's not that they've suddenly gone "Holy damn! Our cars are polluting the Earth! we must go out right now and tell everyone to be more kind to our world!". They, as a company that makes products that pollute the air we live in, have decided to promote a message to the world concerning this. They have decided to promote the message of cleaner cars through what is arguably one of the highest viewed events Honda is affiliated with. The want to show the world that they, as a company, are working towards creating cars that are less harsh to the environment, and they want people to know that.

Bravodor
Feb 28, 2007, 3:23 AM
Its brillant.

Im surprised Honda was the first to think of this.


Screw "global awareness"


That car stands out like nothing else, everyone will know which car is Honda's this year.

Damn thats brillant advertising.

mclaren_mercedes_f1
Feb 28, 2007, 3:52 AM
^^ the only cars that would be hard to tell are the Two RedBulls. The RB3 and the STR02.

PointBlank187
Feb 28, 2007, 6:34 AM
Oh? So you know, without a doubt in the world, that they couldn't find a title sponsor? Wow, you must work in their marketing department!

What do you mean that after so many decades they've decided to be aware? It's not that they've suddenly gone "Holy damn! Our cars are polluting the Earth! we must go out right now and tell everyone to be more kind to our world!". They, as a company that makes products that pollute the air we live in, have decided to promote a message to the world concerning this. They have decided to promote the message of cleaner cars through what is arguably one of the highest viewed events Honda is affiliated with. The want to show the world that they, as a company, are working towards creating cars that are less harsh to the environment, and they want people to know that.

LOL, This man speaks the truth!

TWIN TURBO
Feb 28, 2007, 9:46 AM
may be doing this is some sort of marketing in itself. Now every one is talking about the Honda's team.....

VTEC_Dreams
Feb 28, 2007, 10:25 AM
Oh? So you know, without a doubt in the world, that they couldn't find a title sponsor? Wow, you must work in their marketing department!

What do you mean that after so many decades they've decided to be aware? It's not that they've suddenly gone "Holy damn! Our cars are polluting the Earth! we must go out right now and tell everyone to be more kind to our world!". They, as a company that makes products that pollute the air we live in, have decided to promote a message to the world concerning this. They have decided to promote the message of cleaner cars through what is arguably one of the highest viewed events Honda is affiliated with. The want to show the world that they, as a company, are working towards creating cars that are less harsh to the environment, and they want people to know that.

To add...

www.environmentology.honda.com

I don't see any other car companies doing this ;) .

bennyboy
Feb 28, 2007, 11:03 AM
Nice post Timbit, perfectly said. I still love this car!

Lp640
Feb 28, 2007, 11:49 AM
i love the car but it won't help them much without many sponsers

Timbit
Feb 28, 2007, 6:42 PM
To add...

www.environmentology.honda.com (http://www.environmentology.honda.com)

I don't see any other car companies doing this ;) .

Exactly, Honda are serious about improving the impact their cars have on the environment. Why other cars aren't embracing it as much as Honda (Toyota being somewhat of an exception) I have no idea.

i love the car but it won't help them much without many sponsers

But they DO have sponsors, they even signed up an additional 7-9 sponsors since last year!

JoeProte83
Feb 28, 2007, 8:35 PM
Oh? So you know, without a doubt in the world, that they couldn't find a title sponsor? Wow, you must work in their marketing department!

What do you mean that after so many decades they've decided to be aware? It's not that they've suddenly gone "Holy damn! Our cars are polluting the Earth! we must go out right now and tell everyone to be more kind to our world!". They, as a company that makes products that pollute the air we live in, have decided to promote a message to the world concerning this. They have decided to promote the message of cleaner cars through what is arguably one of the highest viewed events Honda is affiliated with. The want to show the world that they, as a company, are working towards creating cars that are less harsh to the environment, and they want people to know that.


well my friend the problem is I DIDN'T SAY THAT BUT A PERSON IN THE TOP UNANIMOUSLY DID... there you go......... I dont care if they are working toward. When they do make the goal they will have my tumbs up. A lot of companies had said that and at the end they doe nothing....

Bravodor
Feb 28, 2007, 10:06 PM
i love the car but it won't help them much without many sponsers


Why the heck does Honda need sponsors ?

Its freaking Honda.

JoeProte83
Feb 28, 2007, 10:20 PM
The same reason Ferrari and all the other teams need one........

bossesjoe
Mar 01, 2007, 1:06 AM
Exactly, Honda are serious about improving the impact their cars have on the environment. Why other cars aren't embracing it as much as Honda (Toyota being somewhat of an exception) I have no idea.Hate to thread-jack this, but I cringe when I hear this. Everyone gets this image that Honda and Toyota are totally green companies because they're shoving hybrid cars in everyone's face. You want to know what a hybrid car is? It's an excuse to price something ridiculously expensive that people can buy to feel good about themselves. Last time I checked, all that hybrid cars are going to do is prolong the fuel crisis and our dependence of fossil fuels. I'm all for saving gas, but hybrid cars have almost a negligible effect.

If you want a company that is actually doing something and not trying to reap in the PR, look at GM and their hydrogen buses (http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022529).

"If America's nine largest cities replaced their transit fleets—totaling 13,000 buses—with GM's hybrid buses, GM states the cities would save 40 million gallons of fuel each year—a greater savings than 500,000 small hybrid vehicles."

What about GM and Ford having both of which spent hundreds of millions of dollars of their own money making ethanol a reality. That's a fuel that burns much cleaner then gasoline, and is actually energy efficient. I mean heck, it's mixed with regular gasoline in a ten percent mixture to mean C02 emission regulations. Sure, GM is trying to cash in on the good PR, but if anything they deserve it.

I'm not saying that Toyota and Honda shouldn't make hybrid cars, I just think that people shouldn't act like their the saints of the environment for doing so. American car companies have a reputation for large and fuel inefficient cars, but that's what sells here! How can you blame them for trying to continue on what was working for the most of this century?

It's easily arguable that in the last few years that GM alone has done more for the environment then Honda and Toyota combined.

Timbit
Mar 01, 2007, 7:47 AM
Hate to thread-jack this, but I cringe when I hear this. Everyone gets this image that Honda and Toyota are totally green companies because they're shoving hybrid cars in everyone's face. You want to know what a hybrid car is? It's an excuse to price something ridiculously expensive that people can buy to feel good about themselves. Last time I checked, all that hybrid cars are going to do is prolong the fuel crisis and our dependence of fossil fuels. I'm all for saving gas, but hybrid cars have almost a negligible effect.

If you want a company that is actually doing something and not trying to reap in the PR, look at GM and their hydrogen buses (http://autos.msn.com/advice/article.aspx?contentid=4022529).

"If America's nine largest cities replaced their transit fleets—totaling 13,000 buses—with GM's hybrid buses, GM states the cities would save 40 million gallons of fuel each year—a greater savings than 500,000 small hybrid vehicles."

What about GM and Ford having both of which spent hundreds of millions of dollars of their own money making ethanol a reality. That's a fuel that burns much cleaner then gasoline, and is actually energy efficient. I mean heck, it's mixed with regular gasoline in a ten percent mixture to mean C02 emission regulations. Sure, GM is trying to cash in on the good PR, but if anything they deserve it.

I'm not saying that Toyota and Honda shouldn't make hybrid cars, I just think that people shouldn't act like their the saints of the environment for doing so. American car companies have a reputation for large and fuel inefficient cars, but that's what sells here! How can you blame them for trying to continue on what was working for the most of this century?

It's easily arguable that in the last few years that GM alone has done more for the environment then Honda and Toyota combined.

Er, I didn't actually say that Honda was a 'totally green' company, I just said they were embracing environmentally friendliness, and making a large audience aware of the problems in todays world. I'm not acting like neither Honda or Toyota are saints, because the reality is, is that they are still making petrol powered cars.

The reason I wondrously stated why not other brands were embracing environmental awareness was because no one else has promoted it to this extent in the automotive industry. Remember, Honda aren't just promoting their own cars' environmental prowess or whatever, they're talking about THE WHOLE WORLD.

Super_Porsche
Mar 01, 2007, 9:04 AM
wow, that's the new Honda F1?! crazy paint job! damn i bet that's complicated and expensive!!
The paintjob isn't for show. It's to teach the drivers not to crash.

Car_buff
Mar 01, 2007, 9:58 AM
wow, so much freakin negatvity

1. I highly HIGHLY doubt thats a "paint" job. its more likly what is basically a giant decal, put over the entire car. alot cheaper than having the whole car airbrushed, and alot more detial can be put into it. plus, being only just a single thing layer of latex, also helps keep down weight.

2. lack of sponsers? give me a break. its honda, they have more fanboys than ferrari does.

3. the contradiction of terms. yes, f-1 cars get about 3 mpg. thats not the point. the point is to up awareness between all the fans of f1, whom are MANY.

Honestly, to me it looks good. not great, not horrendous, it looks good. its definatly something new and eye catching, and I like that. As for the purpose behind it, I like that as well.

moving on, what im really interested in is what will the driver's helmet and suit consist of (as in what will it look like)?

gonna head on down to one of those clothes printers like the amry uses and do the same thing with some flame retardant clothe or whatever they use?

and in the case of an accident, how are you gonna tell the driver apart from a fender? not only is he gonna be camoflauged in his cars wreckage, but he'll be camo'ed into the grass as well....

im not compellty serious about that, just speculating

bennyboy
Mar 01, 2007, 11:29 AM
The helmets will probably stay the same. I don't reckon they will have to change them for the colour of the car, Massa has a lime yellow one and he drives a red Ferrari. Not sure about the overalls though. Would expect them to be whiteish.

Timbit
Mar 02, 2007, 4:42 AM
Helmets would probably stay the same (as benny said), but I'm interested if their going to change the drivers wear to compliment the car (as Car_buff wondered), or their going to stick with something 2006-esque with their partners/sponsors on it.

DAMNIT, 2 more weeks!! ;_;

sonicadg
Mar 02, 2007, 4:58 AM
heres the press release picture
http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2007/02/stories/06/images/2/large.jpg
i think if they had a new driver suit ready the would be wearing it, and if they weren't changing it they would be wearing the previous one. So new not designed suit it is

bennyboy
Mar 02, 2007, 11:09 AM
Helmets would probably stay the same (as benny said), but I'm interested if their going to change the drivers wear to compliment the car (as Car_buff wondered), or their going to stick with something 2006-esque with their partners/sponsors on it.

DAMNIT, 2 more weeks!! ;_;

I cannot wait. I can already hear the V8s going past the pits in Melbourne...

You'll love the F1 season on here. I make sure a thread is created for every single race weekend. You should have been here for the 2006. There were some heated, but yet amazing discussions about F1 after some of the races!

Timbit
Mar 02, 2007, 6:42 PM
I cannot wait. I can already hear the V8s going past the pits in Melbourne...

You'll love the F1 season on here. I make sure a thread is created for every single race weekend. You should have been here for the 2006. There were some heated, but yet amazing discussions about F1 after some of the races!

Man, 4 days of pure awesomeness and it's less than 2 weeks away! The whole city is embracing the thing (although once it's over, it's more like "What's F1?" :D). Today I should be getting my ass down to the Ferrari Festival running just outside the city, which is pretty much a parade of Ferraris going 40km/h followed by a Ferrari F1 car at 60km/h. Should be a good photo event :)

2007 is gonna be so great!

bennyboy
Mar 03, 2007, 8:07 AM
Wow. That's lucky! Get some nice shots. I've never seen an F1 car in my life, although it's by far my favourite motrosport. SHould be wicked for you. :)

Timbit
Mar 03, 2007, 8:30 AM
Wow. That's lucky! Get some nice shots. I've never seen an F1 car in my life, although it's by far my favourite motrosport. SHould be wicked for you. :)

Tsk tsk tsk benny, WHY NOT?!?! Go, GO NOW!!! :D

To see, to hear, to feel the presence of an F1 car in real life is an absolute MUST. Go to the British GP, go and get your ticket tomorrow :p

I'll make a new thread about my day btw.

Anyway, enough off topic shenanigans, all the green enviro groups have gone under attack and aren't supporting Honda's stance, but I don;t think that'll bother them to much anyway.

bennyboy
Mar 03, 2007, 8:35 AM
Tsk tsk tsk benny, WHY NOT?!?! Go, GO NOW!!! :D

To see, to hear, to feel the presence of an F1 car in real life is an absolute MUST. Go to the British GP, go and get your ticket tomorrow :p

I'll make a new thread about my day btw.

Anyway, enough off topic shenanigans, all the green enviro groups have gone under attack and aren't supporting Honda's stance, but I don;t think that'll bother them to much anyway.

Yessir!

Norhtamptonshire is ages away from where I live....but my mate has a really rich uncle and he might take him to the GP with one friend so.....you never know what might happen! I haven't really lived until I've been around F1 cars.

lambo or holden
Mar 03, 2007, 8:48 AM
I cannot wait. I can already hear the V8s going past the pits in Melbourne...


Man I really wish I could be there for it. I used to be able to hear them from my school (under one km away) and from my house about 10km away. Its even more amazing when your 3 meters away. The sound and speed is just aw-inspiring. Seeing them wizz past as nearly 300km an hour with shrieking exhaust and loud bands as they change gears is cool as hell.
Get yourself some tickets to the British GP. As Timbit said, You'll love it.

BTW, do you have Sky TV. If so are you going to be watching the V8's. I think its on tomorrow around 3:30. I would ask in a more related thread but I don't want to know who won.



I said before that I liked the new colors. Being an F1 car the advertising will do more than anything else. If a winning F1 team says people should care about the environment people are going to start to care about the environment more.

bennyboy
Mar 03, 2007, 8:50 AM
I don't have Sky TV I'm afraid, I only have Freeview. I've watched V8 Supercars race before, and they were brilliant. I saw the 2006 Queensland leg and on at...Hidden Valley was it? I'm not sure. Anyway, I can catch it, but some races aren't shown and they're on in the early hours of the morning, so I'll try and catch it if I can.

And I really wanna go to the British GP now! And I remember you telling me that you could hear the F1 cars from your school.

Lp640
Mar 03, 2007, 8:53 AM
I don't have Sky TV I'm afraid, I only have Freeview. I've watched V8 Supercars race before, and they were brilliant. I saw the 2006 Queensland leg and on at...Hidden Valley was it? I'm not sure. Anyway, I can catch it, but some races aren't shown and they're on in the early hours of the morning, so I'll try and catch it if I can.

yeah most of the races are close and tight thats why it is so good