Porsche 911 Turbo S coming?

Lambo4Eva · Aug 27, 2009, 1:43 AM

From Autoblog:

There was a 993 Turbo S. And a 996 Turbo S, too. But so far, we have not seen a Porsche 997 Turbo S. Reason? Dunno, though we imagine that a more powerful turbo would step on the toes (among other parts) of the hard rocking GT2. Especially as the fastest of all 911s "only" makes 40 more horsepower than the plain ol' Turbo. And besides, 520 horses is probably pushing pretty hard against the edge of the performance-to-reliability ratio that OEMs have to worry about (unlike, say, tuners).

Er, that used to be the case. But, with the pending release of the new 911 Turbo and its 500 hp newly enlarged 3.8-liter direct injected flat-six, 520 horses doesn't sound like a lot. Just doin' a bit' o' speculatin' here, but if Porsche was able to squeeze 520 ponies out of the old motor in the 3.6-liter, well then, they could certainly squeeze who knows how much out of a special edition of the new one without boiling the water-cooled turbines.

According to Team Speed, a new 997.5 Turbo S is coming, and coming soon. When? Spring 2010. And how much power? Pure speculation, but 540 to 550 hp sounds about right. And figure on standard ceramic brakes, RS-style center lock wheels, and some sort of unique bodywork (more strakes?) to differentiate it from mere mortal Turbos. But like all rumors, this could prove totally false. But if it's true, look for the Porsche Turbo S to going up against Nissan's similarly steroidal Godzilla GT-R Spec-V on that one road in Germany...

IMO I can't really see the need for one of these. The GT2 is basically a 'Turbo S' anyway.

Jared · Aug 27, 2009, 1:49 AM

It's a Turbo S without back seats.

Center locking wheels are lame.

We all know 5 lugs is better than 4 and four has to be better than 1.

540-550 horsepower is a bit much to be speculating.

No S model jumps 60-70 horsepower.

That's simply too big, I think, between a standard model and a S model.

Porsches are really coming into their own.

They're becoming something else. They're not that no frills and all thrills drive. They're becoming that luxury brand that is pushing the envelop of engines and technologies.

Maybe they're losing base, I don't know.

They've maintained the look of the 911 for 40+ years. It's great but I think I would rather have the middle of the range Cayman, though the thoughts of a Turbo are nice. It's hella $$, too.

BMW CLR 600 · Aug 27, 2009, 2:48 AM

Porsche is pretty much repeating itself too many times IMO. Given, i've never driven one, but i think they need more variety in their line-up...They do impressive things with the what they have now, but new is good.

Edit: NO NO NO...variety is bad...Never mind...i just rememberd the old Cayenne and Panamera.

S-Tune_S1 · Aug 27, 2009, 5:37 AM

It shall have a similar power to the current GT2. and the new GT2 will most likely be more powerfull since it will have the new 3.8 engine as well . I see it as a logical and typical porsche thing on there lineup.

leka-S · Aug 27, 2009, 6:33 AM

I like the idea of a more powerful Turbo, which in turn would make the GT2 more powerful. I love the idea. And the looks of the 997.5 are amazing

Driftster · Aug 27, 2009, 6:33 AM

Turbo S > Turbo > GTR

GT2 = Other category

*#turbinas#* · Aug 27, 2009, 8:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driftster

Turbo S > Turbo > GTR

GT2 = Other category

Exactly

teXas · Aug 27, 2009, 8:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leka-S

I like the idea of a more powerful Turbo, which in turn would make the GT2 more powerful. I love the idea. And the looks of the 997.5 are amazing

What's amazing is how many folks on this forum abuse that term.

a⋅maz⋅ing [uh-mey-zing]
–adjective

causing great surprise or sudden wonder.

That's just not the term to describe the most predictably styled car in history. In. Hist. o. ry.

Tom Kristensen · Aug 27, 2009, 9:30 AM

I thought there was a Porsche 911 Carrera S and a Porsche 911 Turbo. Those were two different cars.
The next model to be revealed by Porsche is the Porsche 997¾ 4S Turbo GT3 Targa.

RadRyan · Aug 27, 2009, 12:10 PM

not sure I see it happening the turbo has been out for awhile be hey who knows as much as I dont like the gtr Im sure even with a S model of the turbo it would still fall in the same place it is now with the gtr,

mega computers will triumph all

F430 · Aug 27, 2009, 2:53 PM

there are too many variations of the 911. You don't see Ferrari offering a dozen power outputs of the F430, do you? Keep it simple Porsche, otherwise you're just competing with yourselves.

maxmc89 · Aug 27, 2009, 3:15 PM

^^That's been porsche philosophy since it's beginnings. The amount of Porsche 356s is amazing, and the same thing happened with 911's.

In reality it's not that they offer so many cars. They just offer a 911, but you can choose if it's turboed, na, 4wd, rwd, targa, cabriolet, has race suspension...

No other car company can compete with this offer.

My opinion on the S. They've offered it since the 993 and I'd rather have it over the turbo but I didn't really see the need. About the wheels, the design is nice, but they desperately need some dish!

Being a Porsche I'm sure it'll be an amazing car.

Evo_power · Aug 27, 2009, 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F430

there are too many variations of the 911. You don't see Ferrari offering a dozen power outputs of the F430, do you? Keep it simple Porsche, otherwise you're just competing with yourselves.

Actually I'm pretty sure Ferrari is up to at least 7 variants on the F430.

AudiDTMA4 · Aug 27, 2009, 8:02 PM

Firstly, it's not that complex....no more than most standard auto makers. Try building and F150 and you'll see complex.

1. Coupe, Targa, Conv
2. AWD, or RWD
3. Base, S, Turbo
4. Specials i.e. GT2, GT3, GT3-RS

Secondly, thats a standard picture of the 997.5 Turbo with an S photoshopped onto it, those are optional wheels and standard locks.

Thirdly, anyone who's actually driven a 911 Turbo will tell you there's alot of power anyhow, and why would I pay more for an S when I can get a chip for 3-5K and have the same power.

RadRyan · Aug 27, 2009, 8:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AudiDTMA4

Firstly, it's not that complex....no more than most standard auto makers. Try building and F150 and you'll see complex.

1. Coupe, Targa, Conv
2. AWD, or RWD
3. Base, S, Turbo
4. Specials i.e. GT2, GT3, GT3-RS

Secondly, thats a standard picture of the 997.5 Turbo with an S photoshopped onto it, those are optional wheels and standard locks.

Thirdly, anyone who's actually driven a 911 Turbo will tell you there's alot of power anyhow, and why would I pay more for an S when I can get a chip for 3-5K and have the same power.

well for one the S wouldnt only be a power upgrade

Aug 27, 2009, 1:43 AM	#1
Lambo4Eva Daffodil luva! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: AUSSIE!!!!!!! Posts: 1,582	Porsche 911 Turbo S coming? From Autoblog: There was a 993 Turbo S. And a 996 Turbo S, too. But so far, we have not seen a Porsche 997 Turbo S. Reason? Dunno, though we imagine that a more powerful turbo would step on the toes (among other parts) of the hard rocking GT2. Especially as the fastest of all 911s "only" makes 40 more horsepower than the plain ol' Turbo. And besides, 520 horses is probably pushing pretty hard against the edge of the performance-to-reliability ratio that OEMs have to worry about (unlike, say, tuners). Er, that used to be the case. But, with the pending release of the new 911 Turbo and its 500 hp newly enlarged 3.8-liter direct injected flat-six, 520 horses doesn't sound like a lot. Just doin' a bit' o' speculatin' here, but if Porsche was able to squeeze 520 ponies out of the old motor in the 3.6-liter, well then, they could certainly squeeze who knows how much out of a special edition of the new one without boiling the water-cooled turbines. According to Team Speed, a new 997.5 Turbo S is coming, and coming soon. When? Spring 2010. And how much power? Pure speculation, but 540 to 550 hp sounds about right. And figure on standard ceramic brakes, RS-style center lock wheels, and some sort of unique bodywork (more strakes?) to differentiate it from mere mortal Turbos. But like all rumors, this could prove totally false. But if it's true, look for the Porsche Turbo S to going up against Nissan's similarly steroidal Godzilla GT-R Spec-V on that one road in Germany... IMO I can't really see the need for one of these. The GT2 is basically a 'Turbo S' anyway. __________________ You are the weakest link. Goodbye. ~ Rav.

Aug 27, 2009, 1:49 AM	#2
Jared Forum Guru Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 4,646	It's a Turbo S without back seats. Center locking wheels are lame. We all know 5 lugs is better than 4 and four has to be better than 1. 540-550 horsepower is a bit much to be speculating. No S model jumps 60-70 horsepower. That's simply too big, I think, between a standard model and a S model. Porsches are really coming into their own. They're becoming something else. They're not that no frills and all thrills drive. They're becoming that luxury brand that is pushing the envelop of engines and technologies. Maybe they're losing base, I don't know. They've maintained the look of the 911 for 40+ years. It's great but I think I would rather have the middle of the range Cayman, though the thoughts of a Turbo are nice. It's hella $$, too. __________________ To be honest, all I want is something with cupholders and makes birds touch me knob. - Jamesy

Aug 27, 2009, 2:48 AM	#3
BMW CLR 600 Clarissa Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burnaby B.C Posts: 2,849	Porsche is pretty much repeating itself too many times IMO. Given, i've never driven one, but i think they need more variety in their line-up...They do impressive things with the what they have now, but new is good. Edit: NO NO NO...variety is bad...Never mind...i just rememberd the old Cayenne and Panamera. __________________ "You fight like a baby! A DEAD baby!" - Action Figure

Aug 27, 2009, 6:33 AM	#5
leka-S MP4-20 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lyon, France Posts: 4,964	I like the idea of a more powerful Turbo, which in turn would make the GT2 more powerful. I love the idea. And the looks of the 997.5 are amazing __________________ Red Bulls reliability is so poor, even Vettel's engineer's radio broke - Beaver

Aug 27, 2009, 6:33 AM	#6
Driftster Bimmer DBAG Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 42,590	Turbo S > Turbo > GTR GT2 = Other category __________________ M Power is the Solution To the Energy Crisis - i RIP Randy

Aug 27, 2009, 5:37 AM	#4
S-Tune_S1 P O R S C H E Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 10,284	It shall have a similar power to the current GT2. and the new GT2 will most likely be more powerfull since it will have the new 3.8 engine as well . I see it as a logical and typical porsche thing on there lineup.

Aug 27, 2009, 9:30 AM	#9
Tom Kristensen SCF Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 13,485	I thought there was a Porsche 911 Carrera S and a Porsche 911 Turbo. Those were two different cars. The next model to be revealed by Porsche is the Porsche 997¾ 4S Turbo GT3 Targa.

Aug 27, 2009, 12:10 PM	#10
RadRyan Experienced Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Long Beach CA Posts: 622	not sure I see it happening the turbo has been out for awhile be hey who knows as much as I dont like the gtr Im sure even with a S model of the turbo it would still fall in the same place it is now with the gtr, mega computers will triumph all

Aug 27, 2009, 2:53 PM	#11
F430 The Aircraft Enthusiast Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: England Posts: 834	there are too many variations of the 911. You don't see Ferrari offering a dozen power outputs of the F430, do you? Keep it simple Porsche, otherwise you're just competing with yourselves. __________________ This is just another lame attempt at cyber f*ckwittery - Wesleypipes

Aug 27, 2009, 3:15 PM	#12
maxmc89 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mallorca, Països Catalans Posts: 1,968	^^That's been porsche philosophy since it's beginnings. The amount of Porsche 356s is amazing, and the same thing happened with 911's. In reality it's not that they offer so many cars. They just offer a 911, but you can choose if it's turboed, na, 4wd, rwd, targa, cabriolet, has race suspension... No other car company can compete with this offer. My opinion on the S. They've offered it since the 993 and I'd rather have it over the turbo but I didn't really see the need. About the wheels, the design is nice, but they desperately need some dish! Being a Porsche I'm sure it'll be an amazing car. __________________ When you can leave two black strips from the apex to the braking zone, you have enough power

Aug 27, 2009, 8:02 PM	#14
AudiDTMA4 Junior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA/UK Posts: 89	Firstly, it's not that complex....no more than most standard auto makers. Try building and F150 and you'll see complex. 1. Coupe, Targa, Conv 2. AWD, or RWD 3. Base, S, Turbo 4. Specials i.e. GT2, GT3, GT3-RS Secondly, thats a standard picture of the 997.5 Turbo with an S photoshopped onto it, those are optional wheels and standard locks. Thirdly, anyone who's actually driven a 911 Turbo will tell you there's alot of power anyhow, and why would I pay more for an S when I can get a chip for 3-5K and have the same power. __________________ 09 A4 2.0T 01 996 TT

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