New Lotus Europa spy pic

S-Tune_S1 · Aug 05, 2005, 3:48 AM

looks like some TVR mixed with Audi TT design
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?stream...&month=7&day=5

Vectra GTS · Aug 05, 2005, 3:57 AM

The rear looks better than the TVR though.

S-Tune_S1 · Aug 05, 2005, 4:00 AM

yaa.. the rear lights look like Audi TT's lights

SubaruKid37 · Aug 05, 2005, 4:19 AM

thats kinda an old pic now, been circulating the internet for while, however, it is most certain (but not 100%) that it will not use the Europa name, similarly the up-coming Esprit replacement will not be called the Esprit.
I have lots of info on both these cars from work, I would type it out here but i cant be bothered, however i can answer direct questions if anyone's interested..!

Top Secret · Aug 05, 2005, 4:30 AM

This is the rumoured 2+2 GT Coupe right? I doubt this will even be produced under the Lotus nameplate - there's many remours that this will instead be a Proton.

SubaruKid37 · Aug 05, 2005, 4:41 AM

it is the 2+2 coupé, i think it will still be under the Lotus name, Proton doesnt sell too well outside of Asia, but Lotus has the name to do it.
I have heard it will have a vauxhall engine, possibly from the VXR Astra (OPC Astra), but this is most unlikely to be honest, however, a vauxhall engine is not out of the question

Top Secret · Aug 05, 2005, 4:58 AM

WORLD SCOOP: It's the Lotus Europa

South Africa could become one of the first countries in the world to get the new Lotus 2+2 coupe. And we can reveal that the superfast machine will be very competitively priced, and will revive the Europa badge.

Lotus insiders told me last week that the new car will be made in Malaysia by holding company Proton, and will be sold as a Proton in domestic markets.

This will make it the first Lotus to be built outside the UK, but I was assured British jobs will not be affected as other models in the Lotus range will continue in production in Norfolk.

And Lotus will once more use a General Motors power plant. This echoes the past where the company used a Lotus-modified Vauxhall/Opel engine in its early Esprit models.

The Esprit two-seater supercar was produced between 1976 and 2000, the last cars being powered by a 3.5-litre V8.

The Europa will have the Opel/Vauxhall four-cylinder 2-litre turbo engine which puts out 147 kW in standard trim.

Super performance

However, some versions of the Lotus Europa may get the 176 kW Opel OPC motor, which could give the sub-1 000 kg car 0 to 100 km/h acceleration in the 5 seconds bracket, with a top speed of 250 km/h plus.

Although built on a lengthened version of the all-aluminium chassis used on the Lotus Elise two-seater sports car, the Europa will have completely new bodywork, with much smoother styling in keeping with its broader appeal.

Lengthening and widening the chassis will also allow the mid-engined car to have reclining front seats and more luggage space, as well as room for two occasional passengers in the back.

Changes to the high sill design, plus wide-opening doors, will allow easier access.

A novel feature is that the engine will be on display through the steeply-sloping rear window.

Although pricing for South Africa has not yet been finalised, it is hoped Malaysian production will allow the car to be imported into SA at around the same price - or possibly even less - than the R480 000 of the Elise 111R because of exchange rate advantages.

No dates yet for introduction of the car.

Lotus previously produced the Europa, its first mid-engined production car, from 1967, with fibre-glass bodywork and a tuned Renault 1.5-litre engine.
The car was well accepted, with tremendous handling, and later versions got the 1 558 cc Lotus Twin Cam engine.

Production ended in 1974 after almost 9 000 cars had been made.

Link: http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/N...747140,00.html

I do doubt it will be called a Europa though - Lotus is not one to bring back historic nameplates. I still doubt whether it will be under Lotus - I have heard that Lotus has transferred it's design patent for this car to Proton.

This is basically what the Lotus/Proton will look like:

12 inch pianist · Aug 05, 2005, 5:03 AM

If its 2+2 why the hell didn't they call it the Elite?

Top Secret · Aug 05, 2005, 5:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 inch pianist

If its 2+2 why the hell didn't they call it the Elite?

Excuse my ignorance, but - why?!

lambo or holden · Aug 05, 2005, 5:42 AM

Looks more like a TVR then a Lotus.
Also Is it just me or are people getting dumber and nedding to label which angel they are looking at on a car.
Eg
Front view
Back view
Side view
***Other side view***

Leandro Paparelli · Aug 05, 2005, 8:16 AM

Im a lotus fan and prefer the 2 seats models than that 2 + 2 coupe, the prototype looks nice but its not the best of lotus.

slezak12 · Aug 05, 2005, 9:56 AM

it looks decent....TVR looks in some places...but i like it.

Spyder · Aug 05, 2005, 11:16 AM

the front looks like the Supra's and the Elise's head lamps combined with a bit of a 94' eclipse.

but that's probably just me.

Atomsk · Aug 05, 2005, 11:44 AM

It's alright. I like it, and I can sense some Lotus from it. And the 2+2 doesn't bother me.

KoenigseggCC8 · Aug 05, 2005, 11:53 AM

I liked when I saw the rear.... when I saw the front, I felt let down. I was hoping to see some Old Europa in the front, but instead all I see is the headlamps from a 2002 Acura RSX (Honda Integra)

Aug 05, 2005, 3:48 AM	#1
S-Tune_S1 P O R S C H E Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,526	New Lotus Europa spy pic looks like some TVR mixed with Audi TT design http://www.supercars.net/Pics?stream...&month=7&day=5

Aug 05, 2005, 3:57 AM	#2
Vectra GTS sleeper Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Nottingham, UK Posts: 1,020	The rear looks better than the TVR though. __________________ RACECAR spelt backwards is RACECAR

Aug 05, 2005, 4:19 AM	#4
SubaruKid37 grow old, never grow up Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Trapped on an island called UK Posts: 8,803	thats kinda an old pic now, been circulating the internet for while, however, it is most certain (but not 100%) that it will not use the Europa name, similarly the up-coming Esprit replacement will not be called the Esprit. I have lots of info on both these cars from work, I would type it out here but i cant be bothered, however i can answer direct questions if anyone's interested..! __________________ -Tom

Aug 05, 2005, 4:30 AM	#5
Top Secret Sex. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gold Coast, QLD, Australia Posts: 3,262	This is the rumoured 2+2 GT Coupe right? I doubt this will even be produced under the Lotus nameplate - there's many remours that this will instead be a Proton. __________________ Don?t go to bed and dream of hate, stay up late and masturbate!!

Aug 05, 2005, 4:41 AM	#6
SubaruKid37 grow old, never grow up Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Trapped on an island called UK Posts: 8,803	it is the 2+2 coupé, i think it will still be under the Lotus name, Proton doesnt sell too well outside of Asia, but Lotus has the name to do it. I have heard it will have a vauxhall engine, possibly from the VXR Astra (OPC Astra), but this is most unlikely to be honest, however, a vauxhall engine is not out of the question __________________ -Tom

Aug 05, 2005, 4:00 AM	#3
S-Tune_S1 P O R S C H E Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 11,526	yaa.. the rear lights look like Audi TT's lights

Aug 05, 2005, 4:58 AM	#7
Top Secret Sex. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gold Coast, QLD, Australia Posts: 3,262	WORLD SCOOP: It's the Lotus Europa South Africa could become one of the first countries in the world to get the new Lotus 2+2 coupe. And we can reveal that the superfast machine will be very competitively priced, and will revive the Europa badge. Lotus insiders told me last week that the new car will be made in Malaysia by holding company Proton, and will be sold as a Proton in domestic markets. This will make it the first Lotus to be built outside the UK, but I was assured British jobs will not be affected as other models in the Lotus range will continue in production in Norfolk. And Lotus will once more use a General Motors power plant. This echoes the past where the company used a Lotus-modified Vauxhall/Opel engine in its early Esprit models. The Esprit two-seater supercar was produced between 1976 and 2000, the last cars being powered by a 3.5-litre V8. The Europa will have the Opel/Vauxhall four-cylinder 2-litre turbo engine which puts out 147 kW in standard trim. Super performance However, some versions of the Lotus Europa may get the 176 kW Opel OPC motor, which could give the sub-1 000 kg car 0 to 100 km/h acceleration in the 5 seconds bracket, with a top speed of 250 km/h plus. Although built on a lengthened version of the all-aluminium chassis used on the Lotus Elise two-seater sports car, the Europa will have completely new bodywork, with much smoother styling in keeping with its broader appeal. Lengthening and widening the chassis will also allow the mid-engined car to have reclining front seats and more luggage space, as well as room for two occasional passengers in the back. Changes to the high sill design, plus wide-opening doors, will allow easier access. A novel feature is that the engine will be on display through the steeply-sloping rear window. Although pricing for South Africa has not yet been finalised, it is hoped Malaysian production will allow the car to be imported into SA at around the same price - or possibly even less - than the R480 000 of the Elise 111R because of exchange rate advantages. No dates yet for introduction of the car. Lotus previously produced the Europa, its first mid-engined production car, from 1967, with fibre-glass bodywork and a tuned Renault 1.5-litre engine. The car was well accepted, with tremendous handling, and later versions got the 1 558 cc Lotus Twin Cam engine. Production ended in 1974 after almost 9 000 cars had been made. Link: http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/N...747140,00.html I do doubt it will be called a Europa though - Lotus is not one to bring back historic nameplates. I still doubt whether it will be under Lotus - I have heard that Lotus has transferred it's design patent for this car to Proton. This is basically what the Lotus/Proton will look like: __________________ Don?t go to bed and dream of hate, stay up late and masturbate!!

Aug 05, 2005, 5:03 AM	#8
12 inch pianist Forum Napoleon Complex Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On the good ship SS 300 Foot Pianist Posts: 3,349	If its 2+2 why the hell didn't they call it the Elite? __________________ I won't correct you if you're not wrong

Aug 05, 2005, 5:42 AM	#10
lambo or holden SCF Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Ghetto, Perth, Australia Posts: 8,856	Looks more like a TVR then a Lotus. Also Is it just me or are people getting dumber and nedding to label which angel they are looking at on a car. Eg Front view Back view Side view *Other side view* __________________ watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNZE2kYytzM

Aug 05, 2005, 8:16 AM	#11
Leandro Paparelli CLK-GTR Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Recife - BRAZIL Posts: 813	Im a lotus fan and prefer the 2 seats models than that 2 + 2 coupe, the prototype looks nice but its not the best of lotus.

Aug 05, 2005, 9:56 AM	#12
slezak12 Audi Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,025	it looks decent....TVR looks in some places...but i like it. __________________ "If a CL65 isn't a muscle car, than what is it..." - teXas ; rofl

Aug 05, 2005, 11:16 AM	#13
Spyder Poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Holy City Posts: 259	the front looks like the Supra's and the Elise's head lamps combined with a bit of a 94' eclipse. but that's probably just me. __________________ I got a fast car and I'm not afraid to use it

Aug 05, 2005, 11:44 AM	#14
Atomsk hmmm......... Join Date: May 2005 Location: VA Posts: 529	It's alright. I like it, and I can sense some Lotus from it. And the 2+2 doesn't bother me.

Aug 05, 2005, 11:53 AM	#15
KoenigseggCC8 Little Engine that Could Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Posts: 552	I liked when I saw the rear.... when I saw the front, I felt let down. I was hoping to see some Old Europa in the front, but instead all I see is the headlamps from a 2002 Acura RSX (Honda Integra) __________________ 6 degrees is all that seperates people, BUT Koenigsegg is 360degrees from all other cars.

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