Dumb Question.. - Page 2

Vesiot · Jan 30, 2005, 7:45 PM

Do you remember where you saw it? I've seen a Peugeot dealership on 17-N.

And yes the Italians make cars that are filled with passion. But the musclecars embodied the American lifestyle of the 60's and 70's. I don't think you can get more passionate than that.

12 inch pianist · Jan 30, 2005, 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ckg690

When were Alfa's sold in the U.S.? I keep seeing this Montreal Spyder driving around town...

Were Maserati's ever sold in the U.S. (pre 2002) ?

Montreal Spyder? There was a Spyder and there was a Montreal (2.5 liter V8) but Montreal Spyder?

Kirstyn · Jan 30, 2005, 9:15 PM

umm it's a red montreal and it's a convertable...thats all i know

Mopar68 · Jan 30, 2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vesiot

Do you remember where you saw it? I've seen a Peugeot dealership on 17-N.

Thats what it was. Is that north Jersey? I think it was like an hour from here.

12 inch pianist · Jan 30, 2005, 11:08 PM

CKG, that little stunner

is a Montreal. They didn't come in convertibles, it must be a cut and shut job or your mistaken.

OBX · Jan 31, 2005, 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ckg690

When were Alfa's sold in the U.S.? I keep seeing this Montreal Spyder driving around town...

Alfa was sold in the US for years, though I can't quite pin down a start year. Their final year was 1995; their final model was the 164, a sport sedan intended to compete with the BMW 3-series. Alfa Spider models are fairly common and you see 164s around from time to time, though other models tend to the rare side of the market. Alfa eventually dropped out due to reliability problems; I would recommend the 164 to very many people but dealer servicing is only to be done at exotics dealers, who of course charge through the nose for routine maintenance.

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Were Maserati's ever sold in the U.S. (pre 2002) ?

Yes - the most popular Maseratis in the US previous to 2002 were the Biturbo, a 3-series competitor that I believe was sold only as a coupe, and a model which many have heard of yet forget about, the Chrysler TC, which was a Chrysler LeBaron with a shortened wheelbase whose VIN number started with "Z". This thing:

They only made them from 1989 to 1991 and general consensus is they sucked, but they were indeed probably the most popular pre-02 Maserati product. The vast majority were produced in either black or white. The official name of the vehicle was the Chrysler TC by Maserati, and it features Maserati badges in several locations (like that stupid window porthole). Alas, sales were trash and power was low, and they didn't last too long.

12 inch pianist · Jan 31, 2005, 2:08 AM

Biturbos cam in coupe and Quattroport

Vesiot · Jan 31, 2005, 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mopar68

Thats what it was. Is that north Jersey? I think it was like an hour from here.

Yeah north Jersey. Around Paramus, about 45 min. from where I live.
And back to the topic... I didn't know Alfas were available in the U.S. that late. I always though they dropped out during the 80's.

Kirstyn · Jan 31, 2005, 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by OBX

Alfa was sold in the US for years, though I can't quite pin down a start year. Their final year was 1995; their final model was the 164, a sport sedan intended to compete with the BMW 3-series. Alfa Spider models are fairly common and you see 164s around from time to time, though other models tend to the rare side of the market. Alfa eventually dropped out due to reliability problems; I would recommend the 164 to very many people but dealer servicing is only to be done at exotics dealers, who of course charge through the nose for routine maintenance.

Yes - the most popular Maseratis in the US previous to 2002 were the Biturbo, a 3-series competitor that I believe was sold only as a coupe, and a model which many have heard of yet forget about, the Chrysler TC, which was a Chrysler LeBaron with a shortened wheelbase whose VIN number started with "Z". This thing:

They only made them from 1989 to 1991 and general consensus is they sucked, but they were indeed probably the most popular pre-02 Maserati product. The vast majority were produced in either black or white. The official name of the vehicle was the Chrysler TC by Maserati, and it features Maserati badges in several locations (like that stupid window porthole). Alas, sales were trash and power was low, and they didn't last too long.

Yeah I saw a bunch of those TC things on ebay...I searched for maserati and saw a bunch of chryslers i was like WTF? Did maserati [pre 2002] ever sell any real high end cars (because you said that the biturbos were to compete with the 3 series....the new coupes/spyders etc are like 3 times the relative price.....

12 inch pianist · Jan 31, 2005, 7:39 PM

Ghibli Cup Car was hardcore as was Malin's, and answer my question. What in hells name is a Montreal Spyder?

TwinTurboBliss · Jan 31, 2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ckg690

Yeah I saw a bunch of those TC things on ebay...I searched for maserati and saw a bunch of chryslers i was like WTF? Did maserati [pre 2002] ever sell any real high end cars (because you said that the biturbos were to compete with the 3 series....the new coupes/spyders etc are like 3 times the relative price.....

LOL it's a LeBaron.

Kirstyn · Jan 31, 2005, 11:48 PM

12in- Gahh..I did my research and saw it again today. There is a red montreal AND a red spyder...i was getting them confused thinking it was one car. There's two alfas...whoops. BTW- are teh montreals valuable or something? that red 28k mile 1971 montreal sold for $25000

12 inch pianist · Jan 31, 2005, 11:59 PM

They come alot cheaper than that, very nice, fast car.

Mopar68 · Feb 01, 2005, 9:36 AM

I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw them.

Malin · Feb 01, 2005, 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 inch pianist

Ghibli Cup Car was hardcore as was Malin's, and answer my question. What in hells name is a Montreal Spyder?

there is a alfa montreal and it resemble the Maserati Khamsin from the rear

i like al Biturbo

Spider, 222, 228, 420, 425, 430, Karif, 2.24, 4.24, Racing, Shamal, Ghibli

Jan 30, 2005, 7:45 PM	#16
Vesiot Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,027	Re: Dumb Question.. Do you remember where you saw it? I've seen a Peugeot dealership on 17-N. And yes the Italians make cars that are filled with passion. But the musclecars embodied the American lifestyle of the 60's and 70's. I don't think you can get more passionate than that.

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Kirstyn Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Just Outside Reality Posts: 7,101	Re: Dumb Question.. umm it's a red montreal and it's a convertable...thats all i know

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12 inch pianist Forum Napoleon Complex Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On the good ship SS 300 Foot Pianist Posts: 3,349	Re: Dumb Question.. CKG, that little stunner is a Montreal. They didn't come in convertibles, it must be a cut and shut job or your mistaken. __________________ I won't correct you if you're not wrong

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12 inch pianist Forum Napoleon Complex Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On the good ship SS 300 Foot Pianist Posts: 3,349	Re: Dumb Question.. Ghibli Cup Car was hardcore as was Malin's, and answer my question. What in hells name is a Montreal Spyder? __________________ I won't correct you if you're not wrong

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Kirstyn Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Just Outside Reality Posts: 7,101	Re: Dumb Question.. 12in- Gahh..I did my research and saw it again today. There is a red montreal AND a red spyder...i was getting them confused thinking it was one car. There's two alfas...whoops. BTW- are teh montreals valuable or something? that red 28k mile 1971 montreal sold for $25000

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