Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!!

Z06 · Jan 07, 2005, 12:03 PM

Saturn Sky

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Saturn's version of the Pontiac Solstice, the Sky exhibits the new face of Saturn, which will add a mid-size sedan and a large crossover sport-utility to its lineup over the next two years. Aimed at the Mazda Miata in price with dimensions close to the pricier and slightly bigger Honda S2000, the sub-$25,000 Sky gets a 170-hp, 2.4-liter Ecotec four mated to manual or automatic five-speed transmissions and near 50/50 weight distribution. The Sky comes in early 2006, and we expect a Red Line version to follow. We're wondering what sister division Pontiac thinks of the supposed budget-brand Saturn becoming more performance-oriented

Saturn Aura

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Maverick05x · Jan 07, 2005, 12:34 PM

Im happy to see that GM is on the right track and is producing cars that are appealing and affordable to the younger and middle aged crowds. Ill admit that I do like the new saturns. Except i dont think its their version of the solstice, i believe its a version of the Vauxhaul. Either way It a sexy car. I also like the new Chevy Cobalt and the means alot coming from an import guy.

Mopar68 · Jan 07, 2005, 12:40 PM

they're both nice. I hope they have some decent build quality though.

Vesiot · Jan 07, 2005, 6:33 PM

Maverick- actually the Solstice/Sky are built on GM's Kappa platform, I'm pretty sure that the Vauxhall/Opel VX 220/Speedsters are built on another platform. As i said im not sure, but I'll go check and edit my post

TwinTurboBliss · Jan 07, 2005, 8:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mopar68

they're both nice. I hope they have some decent build quality though.

The SRT4 neon should give you an idea of the build quaity....which won't be that good.

FR500 · Jan 08, 2005, 12:33 AM

hum. NO! those too are totally unrelated, SRT4 is a Neon, old Chrysler product, GM products are no better than that (coming from a Ford guy)

igaboj · Jan 08, 2005, 5:16 PM

[font=Verdana]I've always thought of Saturn as the maker of econoboxes.. Sounds like a rebadged solstice anyway; so the Pontiac nameplate would be better IMO.[/font]

nizzledizzle · Jan 09, 2005, 4:16 AM

saturns opening up with the redline badge. and about the srt-4 being of poor quality?? the cars $21000US brand new. its built as a bare bones performance compact. its not supposed to have mercedes styling or ferrari handling. the engine is amazing for a 4 cylinder. MOPAR has an aftermarket kit for it that give it some 300WHP. theres no question about the quality of the SRT-4. it beats any other compact on the scene hands down. and thats coming form a GM guy...

igaboj · Jan 09, 2005, 11:32 AM

I must differ.. 300 HP to the front wheels ain't that great. Plus, IMO, there are better handling, and overall better competitors. For the same price, you can get a WRX (new for 19k) and get some vishnu stuff:

http://www.vishnutuning.com/stage.htm

340 Horsepower plus for $4000; along with 4.2 second 0-60 times, and 1/4 mile in the mid to low 12's.

FR500 · Jan 09, 2005, 11:20 PM

And no torquesteer and almost neutral handling at limit, FWD has inherent undesteer (altough stock WRX understeers more than an SVT Focus).

Quality is not the same as value, sure SRT-4 is great value from a performance standpoint, but it's not high quality.

SteveFX · Jan 11, 2005, 6:01 AM

It's good that you to recognize that quality is not the same as value (perceived bang for buck), FR500.

Saturn is GM's attempt to target Honda. With new technology (the styrofoam textured heads and intake manifolds look wierd), more automation, and lower labor costs they have attempted a major strike against the imports in the US market.

However, with huge incentives and near-zero finance rates, they hope to trade buyers into a new one before it falls apart.

If GM Delco Electronics had been a major NASA subcontractor, many more space shuttles wouldn't have made it to the beach, even with 5X redundancy.

igaboj · Jan 11, 2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveFX

lower labor costs.

More domestics made in Mexico?

kaetraux · Apr 11, 2005, 1:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FR500

And no torquesteer and almost neutral handling at limit, FWD has inherent undesteer (altough stock WRX understeers more than an SVT Focus).

Quality is not the same as value, sure SRT-4 is great value from a performance standpoint, but it's not high quality.

have you ever driven a WRX?

12 inch pianist · Apr 11, 2005, 2:57 AM

don't dig up old threads

jimkk29 · Apr 12, 2005, 7:01 AM

The aura looks just like an astra with a trunk...

Jan 07, 2005, 12:03 PM	#1
Z06 Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 265	Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! Saturn Sky http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/..._front_445.jpg http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/...ky_int_445.jpg http://images.cyclones-world.net/16pima.png Saturn's version of the Pontiac Solstice, the Sky exhibits the new face of Saturn, which will add a mid-size sedan and a large crossover sport-utility to its lineup over the next two years. Aimed at the Mazda Miata in price with dimensions close to the pricier and slightly bigger Honda S2000, the sub-$25,000 Sky gets a 170-hp, 2.4-liter Ecotec four mated to manual or automatic five-speed transmissions and near 50/50 weight distribution. The Sky comes in early 2006, and we expect a Red Line version to follow. We're wondering what sister division Pontiac thinks of the supposed budget-brand Saturn becoming more performance-oriented Saturn Aura http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...ges/aura_1.jpg http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...ges/aura_2.jpg http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...ges/aura_3.jpg http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...ges/aura_4.jpg http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...ges/aura_5.jpg http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/0...ges/aura_6.jpg

Jan 07, 2005, 12:34 PM	#2
Maverick05x Chief of Police Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: East Lansing, MI Posts: 950	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! Im happy to see that GM is on the right track and is producing cars that are appealing and affordable to the younger and middle aged crowds. Ill admit that I do like the new saturns. Except i dont think its their version of the solstice, i believe its a version of the Vauxhaul. Either way It a sexy car. I also like the new Chevy Cobalt and the means alot coming from an import guy.

Jan 07, 2005, 12:40 PM	#3
Mopar68 The anti-hippie Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westfield, New Jersey Posts: 7,488	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! they're both nice. I hope they have some decent build quality though. __________________ "....give it everything you've got cause it'll throw you back more than you could ever imagine." -WP

Jan 07, 2005, 6:33 PM	#4
Vesiot Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,027	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! Maverick- actually the Solstice/Sky are built on GM's Kappa platform, I'm pretty sure that the Vauxhall/Opel VX 220/Speedsters are built on another platform. As i said im not sure, but I'll go check and edit my post

Jan 08, 2005, 12:33 AM	#6
FR500 Experienced Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 824	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! hum. NO! those too are totally unrelated, SRT4 is a Neon, old Chrysler product, GM products are no better than that (coming from a Ford guy) __________________ 1995 Escort Cosworth 1997 Ford Explorer 2003 Focus Ghia

Jan 08, 2005, 5:16 PM	#7
igaboj Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Golden State Posts: 3,600	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! [font=Verdana]I've always thought of Saturn as the maker of econoboxes.. Sounds like a rebadged solstice anyway; so the Pontiac nameplate would be better IMO.[/font] __________________ It's pronounced "Eye-Guh-Boe-Jay"

Jan 09, 2005, 4:16 AM	#8
nizzledizzle Poster Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 139	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! saturns opening up with the redline badge. and about the srt-4 being of poor quality?? the cars $21000US brand new. its built as a bare bones performance compact. its not supposed to have mercedes styling or ferrari handling. the engine is amazing for a 4 cylinder. MOPAR has an aftermarket kit for it that give it some 300WHP. theres no question about the quality of the SRT-4. it beats any other compact on the scene hands down. and thats coming form a GM guy...

Jan 09, 2005, 11:32 AM	#9
igaboj Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Golden State Posts: 3,600	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! I must differ.. 300 HP to the front wheels ain't that great. Plus, IMO, there are better handling, and overall better competitors. For the same price, you can get a WRX (new for 19k) and get some vishnu stuff: http://www.vishnutuning.com/stage.htm 340 Horsepower plus for $4000; along with 4.2 second 0-60 times, and 1/4 mile in the mid to low 12's. __________________ It's pronounced "Eye-Guh-Boe-Jay"

Jan 09, 2005, 11:20 PM	#10
FR500 Experienced Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 824	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! And no torquesteer and almost neutral handling at limit, FWD has inherent undesteer (altough stock WRX understeers more than an SVT Focus). Quality is not the same as value, sure SRT-4 is great value from a performance standpoint, but it's not high quality. __________________ 1995 Escort Cosworth 1997 Ford Explorer 2003 Focus Ghia

Jan 11, 2005, 6:01 AM	#11
SteveFX Bent Rim Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 3,458	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! It's good that you to recognize that quality is not the same as value (perceived bang for buck), FR500. Saturn is GM's attempt to target Honda. With new technology (the styrofoam textured heads and intake manifolds look wierd), more automation, and lower labor costs they have attempted a major strike against the imports in the US market. However, with huge incentives and near-zero finance rates, they hope to trade buyers into a new one before it falls apart. If GM Delco Electronics had been a major NASA subcontractor, many more space shuttles wouldn't have made it to the beach, even with 5X redundancy.

Apr 11, 2005, 2:57 AM	#14
12 inch pianist Forum Napoleon Complex Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On the good ship SS 300 Foot Pianist Posts: 3,350	Re: Wow.. Saturn is getting hawt!! don't dig up old threads __________________ I won't correct you if you're not wrong

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