Roush Introduce Propane-Powered Ford F-150

Lp640 · Apr 16, 2007, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by worldcarfans

Roush Introduces Propane-Powered Ford F-150
Roush introduces the first dedicated propane-powered F-150 pickup truck using an advanced liquid propane injection (LPI(TM)) system. The Roush F-150 LPI(TM) is designed and manufactured to operate solely on propane while providing the same horsepower, torque and drivability of an F-150 equipped with a gasoline-powered 5.4-liter, 3-valve Triton(TM) V-8 engine.
Roush will begin taking orders for the propane-powered F-150 immediately. The truck can be ordered, delivered and serviced through a nationwide network of select Ford dealers. Offered as a 2007.5 model year vehicle, it is the only propane-powered light-duty truck available from an original equipment manufacturer this year.
The Roush F-150 is available in Regular Cab, SuperCab and SuperCrew cab styles with XL or XLT trim and the full range of bed lengths. The LPI(TM) option includes dedicated propane fuel lines, fuel rail assembly and fuel tank. Additionally, the vehicle's OEM computer has been re-calibrated to provide optimum performance and fuel economy.
The base LPI(TM) option is $6,500 and includes a unique 20 gallon toroidal fuel tank, mounted in place of the underbody spare tire. For customers in need of increased range, a 50 gallon, in-bed fuel tank is available as an additional option.
The Roush F-150 LPI(TM) will be introduced at the NPGA Southeastern Convention and International Expo in Atlanta, Georgia. The conference runs April 14-17 and is the largest propane industry conference in the United States.
"Aside from its superb engineering, this vehicle is right here, right now! It is an alternative fuel vehicle that has an established refueling infrastructure to support it," says Tom Arnold, director, alternative fuel products for Roush. "This vehicle will have a positive impact on reducing emissions and our dependency on foreign oil."
The LPI(TM) fuel rail assembly is made up of two billet aluminum propane injection fuel rails, an insulated cross-over, a combined pressure/temperature sensor, and a service port that provides data to the engines' computer allowing for more precise fuel control at the intake port. Roush uses fuel injection and fuel storage systems supplied by CleanFUEL USA and ICOM, Italy. LPI(TM) is a registered trademark of CleanFUEL USA.
The standard toroidal fuel tank and optional in-bed fuel tank include a special high flow fuel pump, dual filters, and the required control valves needed to run the engine. The tank also contains the fuel sender and electronic auto stop fill system. Fueling is done through the fuel filler door, and an automatic stop fill device prevents overfilling. This will allow the vehicle to be filled without using the "bleeder" system that vents propane vapors during filling. Fuel is also filtered prior to entering the tank.
Vehicle start is controlled by a "one-touch" system, where the engine controls take over from the driver to provide the fastest possible start with the lowest emissions. The OEM engine control is used with unique calibration values to suit the changes in properties from gasoline to propane.
The maintenance schedule for the Roush F-150 LPI(TM) is similar to that of a gasoline engine schedule with no special oils or change intervals required.
The Propane Education and Research Council (PERC) awarded the contract to Roush in February 2006, and Roush designed, manufactured and brought the truck to market in only 14 months. "Roush has an unparalleled reputation for technical expertise, quality and value," says Brian Feehan, managing director of engine fuel programs for PERC. "It is because of this expertise and experience that we chose Roush to develop this vehicle."

What do you guys think of in my opinion i just think it is a waste of money

looserdude4 · Apr 16, 2007, 10:54 AM

Why? Propane has a fraction of regular gas emmissions. It'd be like a hybrid truck that gives grills boners.

Lp640 · Apr 16, 2007, 10:56 AM

yeah i suppose but i just find that why now they could save it until we most need them but not when we don't

Supra Toms · Apr 16, 2007, 12:13 PM

Isnt propane a little old, its all over Europe and Asia.

nova · Apr 16, 2007, 3:40 PM

Sounds like a great idea...how do you refill it though? Is propane cheaper than regular gas?

Ferrari Underground · Apr 16, 2007, 7:13 PM

propane... ?? to be honest, I haven't really heard of that before, I wond what it is...? But the truck looks sort of cool, in my opinion the front looks like its been taken off some sort of Cadillac SUV... lol. Well, looking at other member's opinions, like saying its bad and all, I think its alright... But I wonder if it'll perform as well, looks like it won't do any good at all...

Robbie · Apr 17, 2007, 5:45 AM

i still dont understand what this prow-pain thing is after reading the whole article, is it like a hybrid but its like gas or something like a special type of gas? its weird, but i like the looks, but i didnt expect Roush to do a F-150...

v@nQu!$h~$ · Apr 17, 2007, 7:43 AM

I just like the car. Got no idea bout the fuel and couldnt care less...

Esperante · Apr 18, 2007, 12:35 AM

have any of you used a grill?

Car_buff · Apr 18, 2007, 12:46 AM

sounds good, not too expensive but how many mpg do you get? with the extra 50 gallon in bed tank it can hold up to 70 gollons of gas, so how far will that get you, and more importantly, how much will it cost?

Ravenous · Apr 18, 2007, 1:06 AM

^ The MPG will probably be half of what it was before, but so will the cost.

LP gas is a widely used alternative fuel in Australia, and it's growing in popularity. The government even offers rebates for anyone who has their car converted or buys a new car that's exclusively LPG. Personally, I don't see the point. LPG costs a little over half of what Petrol costs, but you get twice the consumption and less performance. It also makes your car smell like caramel onions.

Not to mention that as a fuel source it's completely non-renewable. It's still fossil fuel.

jamesy · Apr 18, 2007, 1:11 AM

Wow Hank Hill is gonna go nuts.

I don't think its a very good idea. Its not much cheaper than regular fuel and its just another one of those gimics to save oil and none of them work.

AaronH · Apr 18, 2007, 3:21 AM

Propane is a gas (or liquid, if it's compressed, like gasoline) derived from petroleum. LPG (as was mentioned above) isnt the same as pure propane, as it is mixed with other substances (I think it's propylene and a couple others). Hopefully that cleared it up so no one asks again.

As for the truck, I dont see how it would greatly affect transportation for better or for worse.

Yes, you would be paying half as much for fuel. But you would also cut your MPG nearly in half. You will make twice as many stops and will end up burning more fuel with having to start up the engine much more often. That extra consumption (it will add up, however little it seems) will make this conversion even more expensive than a gasoline engine.

If we didnt factor in the extra fuel consumption, it would end up costing roughly the same amount as a gasoline engine. Half the cost but double your consumption, and it ends up balancing out to equal the same price as beforehand. So it's still a waste of money.

Not to mention fuel availability...Gasoline is grossly abundant (even if companies want you to think it's in short supply). Gas stations can be found at nearly every intersection and along countless roads.

Propane is not carried by all of them. Nor are there many propane fuel pumps. So getting fuel would be a hassle. And you'd have to make twice as many fill stops as with your gasoline engine. And with less availability, that's going to end up getting you stranded.

Hey, I might have calculated this wrong (I tend to do that. Haha), but if I'm right, then this is one big fat waste of money. It's pointless, and it yeilds absolutely no purpose other than cleaner emissions. But it's not worth it due to the tremendous hassle and hazard (what if you break down in a bad side of town? O_O), there is no reason to even consider buying this downgrade.

Ravenous · Apr 18, 2007, 3:38 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronH

LPG (as was mentioned above) isnt the same as pure propane, as it is mixed with other substances (I think it's propylene and a couple others). Hopefully that cleared it up so no one asks again.

The most common LPG ingredient combination is propane, propylene and butane, with a side of onion extract or ethanol derivative for smell, depending on where you live.

Not that anyone actually cares about the specifics.

GT King · Apr 18, 2007, 4:45 AM

Well i think it's a great car for workers or anybody who don't want to pay the high prices for normal fuel. But if your looking for MPG and more performance then this isin't the way to go. I guess this is similar to the LPG we use a lot over here, so it would definitely smell like crap as well...

Apr 16, 2007, 10:54 AM	#2
looserdude4 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago IL (USA) Infractions: Oh ****! Posts: 1,732	Why? Propane has a fraction of regular gas emmissions. It'd be like a hybrid truck that gives grills boners. __________________ An understeering two ton compact sedan? No thanks, I have testicles and a brain.~CVan

Apr 16, 2007, 12:13 PM	#4
Supra Toms Giggity Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Quaghog Posts: 747	Isnt propane a little old, its all over Europe and Asia. __________________ Kids, Red Brakes dont = Brembo's!

Apr 16, 2007, 3:40 PM	#5
nova Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fuquay, NC Posts: 1,715	Sounds like a great idea...how do you refill it though? Is propane cheaper than regular gas? __________________ Kills in the maro: Mustang GT - 2 Infiniti G35 - 1

Apr 16, 2007, 7:13 PM	#6
Ferrari Underground F50 Luva Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 2,353	propane... ?? to be honest, I haven't really heard of that before, I wond what it is...? But the truck looks sort of cool, in my opinion the front looks like its been taken off some sort of Cadillac SUV... lol. Well, looking at other member's opinions, like saying its bad and all, I think its alright... But I wonder if it'll perform as well, looks like it won't do any good at all... __________________ "Does NSW stand for Non-Sivilised World?" ~ Ty

Apr 17, 2007, 5:45 AM	#7
Robbie R.I.P. Yoyo Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 13,002	i still dont understand what this prow-pain thing is after reading the whole article, is it like a hybrid but its like gas or something like a special type of gas? its weird, but i like the looks, but i didnt expect Roush to do a F-150... __________________ Jordana Brewster. I would bend her chassis from so much thrust it would be ridiculous.~ Cooper "s"

Apr 16, 2007, 10:56 AM	#3
Lp640 Banned Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In Your Dreams Posts: 1,095	yeah i suppose but i just find that why now they could save it until we most need them but not when we don't

Apr 17, 2007, 7:43 AM	#8
v@nQu!$h~$ Mr. Conservative Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia Posts: 3,205	I just like the car. Got no idea bout the fuel and couldnt care less...

Apr 18, 2007, 12:35 AM	#9
Esperante Starting Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 13	have any of you used a grill?

Apr 18, 2007, 12:46 AM	#10
Car_buff OIF/OEF/OND/FTS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chesepeake, va Posts: 9,301	sounds good, not too expensive but how many mpg do you get? with the extra 50 gallon in bed tank it can hold up to 70 gollons of gas, so how far will that get you, and more importantly, how much will it cost? __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world-Tolkien

Apr 18, 2007, 1:06 AM	#11
Ravenous Filthy whore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: AWOL Posts: 13,384	^ The MPG will probably be half of what it was before, but so will the cost. LP gas is a widely used alternative fuel in Australia, and it's growing in popularity. The government even offers rebates for anyone who has their car converted or buys a new car that's exclusively LPG. Personally, I don't see the point. LPG costs a little over half of what Petrol costs, but you get twice the consumption and less performance. It also makes your car smell like caramel onions. Not to mention that as a fuel source it's completely non-renewable. It's still fossil fuel. __________________ your right, the empty space in your garage IS way more hardcore than my R6 ~ Evo

Apr 18, 2007, 1:11 AM	#12
jamesy SCF Addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 5,437	Wow Hank Hill is gonna go nuts. I don't think its a very good idea. Its not much cheaper than regular fuel and its just another one of those gimics to save oil and none of them work.

Apr 18, 2007, 3:21 AM	#13
AaronH Forum Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,395	Propane is a gas (or liquid, if it's compressed, like gasoline) derived from petroleum. LPG (as was mentioned above) isnt the same as pure propane, as it is mixed with other substances (I think it's propylene and a couple others). Hopefully that cleared it up so no one asks again. As for the truck, I dont see how it would greatly affect transportation for better or for worse. Yes, you would be paying half as much for fuel. But you would also cut your MPG nearly in half. You will make twice as many stops and will end up burning more fuel with having to start up the engine much more often. That extra consumption (it will add up, however little it seems) will make this conversion even more expensive than a gasoline engine. If we didnt factor in the extra fuel consumption, it would end up costing roughly the same amount as a gasoline engine. Half the cost but double your consumption, and it ends up balancing out to equal the same price as beforehand. So it's still a waste of money. Not to mention fuel availability...Gasoline is grossly abundant (even if companies want you to think it's in short supply). Gas stations can be found at nearly every intersection and along countless roads. Propane is not carried by all of them. Nor are there many propane fuel pumps. So getting fuel would be a hassle. And you'd have to make twice as many fill stops as with your gasoline engine. And with less availability, that's going to end up getting you stranded. Hey, I might have calculated this wrong (I tend to do that. Haha), but if I'm right, then this is one big fat waste of money. It's pointless, and it yeilds absolutely no purpose other than cleaner emissions. But it's not worth it due to the tremendous hassle and hazard (what if you break down in a bad side of town? O_O), there is no reason to even consider buying this downgrade. __________________ God dammit I'm not going to have intercourse. - AWDfreak

Apr 18, 2007, 4:45 AM	#15
GT King Forum Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 2,877	Well i think it's a great car for workers or anybody who don't want to pay the high prices for normal fuel. But if your looking for MPG and more performance then this isin't the way to go. I guess this is similar to the LPG we use a lot over here, so it would definitely smell like crap as well... __________________ I honestly feel like opening my xbox dvd tray and violently throwing up into it ~ fluffyhead

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