No more 'bad' cars? - Page 2

BMW CLR 600 · Mar 10, 2010, 2:48 AM

Nissan Versa
Chevy Cobalt
Toyota Corolla
Mercury Mountaineer
Jeep Compass
Ford Ranger
Chevy Colorado
Land Rover LR2
Lincoln Town Car
Mercury Grand Marquis
Mitsubishi Galant
Mitsubishi Endeavor

I would take all those off the list and add(on top of my head) VW diesel vans, Caddy Escalade, and GMC Astro to the list.

millmAn · Mar 10, 2010, 7:29 AM

C'mon people. You're missing the point of the list. None of these cars are necessarily flat-out "bad". They are "bad" strictly by the definition of the author and "bad" by comparison. And his reasoning is they don't measure up to other offerings in their class.

Read over Corny's post again.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornelius Van

While I don't neccesarily agree with this list, I can see why all those cars are on that list.

They either:
-Have a competitor in the same category that is very distinctly better in every way.
-Are a rebadge of a rebadge of a rebadge of a etc...

breakFan · Mar 10, 2010, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evo_power

Because they are both small, economical vehicles that cost the same amount of money.

Really?

Because here a Smart costs 9,950 euros (8,715£ in the UK), whilst the Civic starts at 19,950 euros (15,426£).

The Civic is small and seats five, but the smart is tiny and only seats two.

The Civic 1.4 (smallest engine available) gets 49.6mpg on the combined cycle, whereas the most efficient Smart achieves nearly 63 (and thats the petrol, the diesel will return 83mpg)

Evo_power · Mar 10, 2010, 1:55 PM

Here in Americaland it's a different story

Smart Fortwo:

MSRP: $11,990 - $16,990
Fuel economy: 33 / 41 mpg out of a 1.0L engine that makes 70 horsepower

Honda Fit:
MSRP: $14,900 - $19,110
Fuel economy: 28 / 35 mpg out of a 1.5L engine that makes 117 horsepower

These numbers are all from Yahoo Autos though. Almost every single real world test I've seen puts the Smarts average fuel economy in the lower 30's mainly because you gota strain the engine to hit 65, which it also takes forever to hit because it's so damn slow.

Cooper "s" · Mar 10, 2010, 2:06 PM

Still, and i say this again.. as a secondary car to go to the store, or to best buy, or whatever its the great, and it costs what it costs because its not a common car.

33mpg city is AMAZING... I do half of that and on the highway.

maybe someone should ship me one of those diesel Smarts from euroland.

Mar 10, 2010, 2:48 AM	#16
BMW CLR 600 Clarissa Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Burnaby B.C, Canada Posts: 2,321	Nissan Versa Chevy Cobalt Toyota Corolla Mercury Mountaineer Jeep Compass Ford Ranger Chevy Colorado Land Rover LR2 Lincoln Town Car Mercury Grand Marquis Mitsubishi Galant Mitsubishi Endeavor I would take all those off the list and add(on top of my head) VW diesel vans, Caddy Escalade, and GMC Astro to the list. __________________ "You fight like a baby! A DEAD baby!" - Action Figure

Mar 10, 2010, 1:55 PM	#19
Evo_power SCF Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oregon Awesomeness: Infinite Posts: 9,508	Here in Americaland it's a different story Smart Fortwo: MSRP: $11,990 - $16,990 Fuel economy: 33 / 41 mpg out of a 1.0L engine that makes 70 horsepower Honda Fit: MSRP: $14,900 - $19,110 Fuel economy: 28 / 35 mpg out of a 1.5L engine that makes 117 horsepower These numbers are all from Yahoo Autos though. Almost every single real world test I've seen puts the Smarts average fuel economy in the lower 30's mainly because you gota strain the engine to hit 65, which it also takes forever to hit because it's so damn slow. __________________ You're a C02 emission - Vtec_Dreams

Mar 10, 2010, 2:06 PM	#20
Cooper "s" House-Wife, Courtney Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Weston, Florida Posts: 5,579	Still, and i say this again.. as a secondary car to go to the store, or to best buy, or whatever its the great, and it costs what it costs because its not a common car. 33mpg city is AMAZING... I do half of that and on the highway. maybe someone should ship me one of those diesel Smarts from euroland. __________________ It's gay like a V6 - Evo

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