Sound system

Car_buff · Jul 27, 2007, 7:47 PM

Very tempted to put the monkey sign up right here, give it a place of designated honour,

My jeep is 18 years old

I am 18 years old

I love music. My jeeps system is both out dated and partially not functioning

put 1 2 and 3 together and you get, Me wants a new system

Here's the technicalities. I work my ass off for my money (as many of us do, or have done) and I dont intend to throw it all away just for my listening pleasure's

I do not require the volume to go through the roof, or even outside the vehicle for that matter. The bass need be sufficeint for sound only, "feeling" it (ie having it vibrate the bolts loose) isn't nessacary

With out doing anything custom the stock locations allow for 4 mids. I belive there's a couple tweeters in the dash, but I couldnt know for sure without attmepting to remove it

I'll be going to car toys unless told otherwise and haveing them install it for 2 reasons. Lifetime garuantee, and if something is messed up, I ***** to them about it instead of kicking myself in the balls for my own mistakes.

mids are about 5 inchs in diameter I think. I dont want to need an amp, and I do need a new deck.

I've been in there and tried to talk to them, but they didnt give me the kind of answer I was looking for. Rather they looked around and pointed at the speakers with the lowest price tags.

I'm willing to dish out, if I must, 500 dollars for this.

Keep in mind, all I want is a decent system to replace my outdated stock one. Nothing fancy, no flashing lights, definatly not trying to win any decibal contests. I just want good qaulity sound at a not too expensive price, something that will last and work and keep my happy.

if I havent given you all the answers you need to give me a good response, feel free to ask away

nova · Jul 27, 2007, 8:17 PM

Try ordering from Crutchfield.com and installing them yourself. That's what I did. I spent a good $500 or more replacing my entire sound system in my van... Two Polk 5.25's in the dash, Polk 5x7's in the front doors, Polk 6x9's in the rear panel, Panasonic headunit, and a 10" 200 watt Bazooka tube subwoofer. And it sounds awesome. The sub isn't like what you typically hear on ricer Honda's blaring down the street... You really can't tell outside of your car, but inside it hits pretty hard. The Bazooka tube is $300 and has a built in amp. I don't have any amps, my speakers are all running off my headunit and my sub has it's own amp.

Ordering from Crutchfield is really easy... You tell them what kind of car you have, and they tell you what fits and you can sort it by reviews/best seller/etc. Then it comes with an instruction sheet specifically for your car and tells you how to replace the speakers, and it also comes with adapters incase you need one for the speaker plugs. Installation costs are absolutely rediculous... Circuit City wanted over $200 to install just my sub, and all that needed to be done really was drill a hole in my firewall and run some wires to the back of my CD deck which I did myself... so yea.

Hope that helps somewhat

Car_buff · Jul 27, 2007, 8:28 PM

I know it's not all that difficult, but wiring and all that is not my cup of tea. and it literally is a freaking maze of wires under the dash and behind the head unit. I'd get lost in no time.

If I spend enough I think car toys will do it for free, otherwise It's only like 80 bucks or so

and I'm going to try and beat them down on that by removing all the door panals myself. will take me about 10 minutes, but they could charge as much as 50 bucks or more. I think anyways. I'd take out the old system too if they'd let me, but I don't think they would.

biggest factor though is going to be me being a hardass and telling them, look, don't wanna do it that way? fine I'll go somewhere else.

I mean, I know I'm not putting 10 thousand into the car here, but all I'm stilla customer and if they dont want to cut me some slack then I'll mention the better bussiness burea (spelling?) and either they'll except a bad report, or they'll wait on my hands and feet

mclaren_mercedes_f1 · Jul 29, 2007, 5:17 AM

Any stores that seem to be like "West Coast Customs" can get you ready and have nice sound! But since budget is an issue, just go to bestbuy!

Car_buff · Jul 29, 2007, 9:07 AM

^^ Honestly, best adivce I've ever gotten in my life

nova · Jul 29, 2007, 9:31 PM

Go to Crutchfield.com, sort the speakers by what fits your Jeep and stuff, and then find the best sellers/ones that have good reviews, pick them out by price, then go to wherever you want to get them from and see if they have them.

monkeyfkker · Jul 30, 2007, 11:28 AM

Those are actually 5.25" units. If you don't want to get into amps, caps, and crossovers then all you need is a good cd head unit and 4 speakers. Make sure that it's a CD Receiver (not a tuner... they don't have internal amps) with a decent power output. You don't need a subwoofer for what you want.

Circuit City is actually a good place for basic stuff....

Something like a high end Pioneer or JVC. Speakers... I'd put Polk Audio Momo 5 1/4's in each spot. Those are probably some of the best speakers you can get without going up to component sets.

hyphon12 · Jul 30, 2007, 3:40 PM

I'd go Sony all round tbh, ive got Sony Head Unit, Sony 50cms at the front, Sony 10" Sub, i had sony 6x9s onl my parcel shelf but my dad broke them so ive got JVC ones now, you dont need much for a good audio system, with what ive got its loud as hell and is as clear as a bell.

monkeyfkker · Jul 30, 2007, 4:24 PM

I like you Hyphon so I won't talk too much crap about Sony but if I were to meter your system you'd crap if you saw the frequency response.

Anyway Car Buff... stay away from Sony. I've been deeply involved in audio since the days when Sony WAS one of the best...

hyphon12 · Jul 30, 2007, 4:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyfkker

I like you Hyphon so I won't talk too much crap about Sony but if I were to meter your system you'd crap if you saw the frequency response.

Anyway Car Buff... stay away from Sony. I've been deeply involved in audio since the days when Sony WAS one of the best...

that makes me so happy to hear that

lol

ive always thought Sony Speakers were good? maybe not, i have to say though my JVCs are better than my old Sonys though. but they did cost twice as much

monkeyfkker · Jul 30, 2007, 4:47 PM

In life you don't always get what you pay for...

With audiophile and high end audio equipment, if you stay away from the fads, you generally get your money's worth.

Places like West Coast Customs and Unique Autosports do great work... on tv... there are hundreds of installation shops that cost a fourth of what those places do AND do better work.

Don't always think that the popular 'name brands' are anywhere near the best. The best equipment is usually hand built, limited in production, and somewhat expensive (though not always... Orion makes one of the best 12" subs around... for under 100 bucks). Because of this they're not the most well known names and people tend to under rate them. Not everyone knows who Nakamichi is but anyone who's seriously into audio will know... They're the best. In most things there's never one 'best'... Nakamichi is that exception.

Anyway, don't take what I said wrong. There's nothing bad about Sony... I just wouldn't recommend them anymore.

Car_buff · Jul 30, 2007, 5:17 PM

yeah, sony is for playstations and tvs far as I'm concerned

only big name foriegn brand I like that I know of is Hamman/Karmon (spelling, I cant always remember the name)

I duno about circuit city though, will they install it and garuantee it for life? connecting the speakers and all I could do that easy. but the head unit, and replacing the 20 year old wires (which I want done, just cause), not me. I could do alot of things I havent had the chance to pull off yet, but this isnt one of them

monkeyfkker · Jul 30, 2007, 5:29 PM

Wiring is a lot trickier to do right than people think.

Circuit City should warranty it. If not go to Best Buy.

It's Harmon/Kardon and they're some of the best audiophile and high end equipment around... especially for home theaters. They make low end budget stuff as well but even it's pretty good.

Kaoss · Jul 30, 2007, 9:38 PM

Give this a try...Pioneer speakers and decks...the best along with Alpine.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1134701298078

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1134702498636

And for the deck...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1166840027190

MY FAVE
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1165610937533

See if that helps

monkeyfkker · Jul 31, 2007, 10:48 AM

lol... You don't need a 225 dollar head unit and imho I'd stay away from Alpine heads (their speakers are brilliant but their head units are made by Kenwood).

Here Car Buff (if you decide to go to Car Toys):

Pioneer Premier DEH-P390MP - it's a cd player that plays pretty much everything... mp3, wma, etc... $150.00

Infinity Reference 5012i 5.25" two way speakers - great full range speakers. I've heard these before and they're just below the Kappa series in quality... $80.00/pair

That's $310.00 for the speakers and head unit... Add whatever the installation is and it should be less than $500.00...

btw... those prices are from Car Toys.

Jul 27, 2007, 7:47 PM	#1
Car_buff OIF/OEF/OND/FTS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chesepeake, va Posts: 9,301	Sound system Very tempted to put the monkey sign up right here, give it a place of designated honour, My jeep is 18 years old I am 18 years old I love music. My jeeps system is both out dated and partially not functioning put 1 2 and 3 together and you get, Me wants a new system Here's the technicalities. I work my ass off for my money (as many of us do, or have done) and I dont intend to throw it all away just for my listening pleasure's I do not require the volume to go through the roof, or even outside the vehicle for that matter. The bass need be sufficeint for sound only, "feeling" it (ie having it vibrate the bolts loose) isn't nessacary With out doing anything custom the stock locations allow for 4 mids. I belive there's a couple tweeters in the dash, but I couldnt know for sure without attmepting to remove it I'll be going to car toys unless told otherwise and haveing them install it for 2 reasons. Lifetime garuantee, and if something is messed up, I ***** to them about it instead of kicking myself in the balls for my own mistakes. mids are about 5 inchs in diameter I think. I dont want to need an amp, and I do need a new deck. I've been in there and tried to talk to them, but they didnt give me the kind of answer I was looking for. Rather they looked around and pointed at the speakers with the lowest price tags. I'm willing to dish out, if I must, 500 dollars for this. Keep in mind, all I want is a decent system to replace my outdated stock one. Nothing fancy, no flashing lights, definatly not trying to win any decibal contests. I just want good qaulity sound at a not too expensive price, something that will last and work and keep my happy. if I havent given you all the answers you need to give me a good response, feel free to ask away __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world-Tolkien

Jul 27, 2007, 8:17 PM	#2
nova Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fuquay, NC Posts: 1,715	Try ordering from Crutchfield.com and installing them yourself. That's what I did. I spent a good $500 or more replacing my entire sound system in my van... Two Polk 5.25's in the dash, Polk 5x7's in the front doors, Polk 6x9's in the rear panel, Panasonic headunit, and a 10" 200 watt Bazooka tube subwoofer. And it sounds awesome. The sub isn't like what you typically hear on ricer Honda's blaring down the street... You really can't tell outside of your car, but inside it hits pretty hard. The Bazooka tube is $300 and has a built in amp. I don't have any amps, my speakers are all running off my headunit and my sub has it's own amp. Ordering from Crutchfield is really easy... You tell them what kind of car you have, and they tell you what fits and you can sort it by reviews/best seller/etc. Then it comes with an instruction sheet specifically for your car and tells you how to replace the speakers, and it also comes with adapters incase you need one for the speaker plugs. Installation costs are absolutely rediculous... Circuit City wanted over $200 to install just my sub, and all that needed to be done really was drill a hole in my firewall and run some wires to the back of my CD deck which I did myself... so yea. Hope that helps somewhat __________________ Kills in the maro: Mustang GT - 2 Infiniti G35 - 1

Jul 27, 2007, 8:28 PM	#3
Car_buff OIF/OEF/OND/FTS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chesepeake, va Posts: 9,301	I know it's not all that difficult, but wiring and all that is not my cup of tea. and it literally is a freaking maze of wires under the dash and behind the head unit. I'd get lost in no time. If I spend enough I think car toys will do it for free, otherwise It's only like 80 bucks or so and I'm going to try and beat them down on that by removing all the door panals myself. will take me about 10 minutes, but they could charge as much as 50 bucks or more. I think anyways. I'd take out the old system too if they'd let me, but I don't think they would. biggest factor though is going to be me being a hardass and telling them, look, don't wanna do it that way? fine I'll go somewhere else. I mean, I know I'm not putting 10 thousand into the car here, but all I'm stilla customer and if they dont want to cut me some slack then I'll mention the better bussiness burea (spelling?) and either they'll except a bad report, or they'll wait on my hands and feet __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world-Tolkien

Jul 29, 2007, 9:07 AM	#5
Car_buff OIF/OEF/OND/FTS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chesepeake, va Posts: 9,301	^^ Honestly, best adivce I've ever gotten in my life __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world-Tolkien

Jul 29, 2007, 9:31 PM	#6
nova Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Fuquay, NC Posts: 1,715	Go to Crutchfield.com, sort the speakers by what fits your Jeep and stuff, and then find the best sellers/ones that have good reviews, pick them out by price, then go to wherever you want to get them from and see if they have them. __________________ Kills in the maro: Mustang GT - 2 Infiniti G35 - 1

Jul 29, 2007, 5:17 AM	#4
mclaren_mercedes_f1 VODAFONE McLAREN MERCEDES Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 12,329	Any stores that seem to be like "West Coast Customs" can get you ready and have nice sound! But since budget is an issue, just go to bestbuy!

Jul 30, 2007, 11:28 AM	#7
monkeyfkker Whatever Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 14,482	Those are actually 5.25" units. If you don't want to get into amps, caps, and crossovers then all you need is a good cd head unit and 4 speakers. Make sure that it's a CD Receiver (not a tuner... they don't have internal amps) with a decent power output. You don't need a subwoofer for what you want. Circuit City is actually a good place for basic stuff.... Something like a high end Pioneer or JVC. Speakers... I'd put Polk Audio Momo 5 1/4's in each spot. Those are probably some of the best speakers you can get without going up to component sets. __________________ Refrain from posting once in a while. - VTEC Drams Last edited by monkeyfkker : Jul 30, 2007 at 11:44 AM.

Jul 30, 2007, 3:40 PM	#8
hyphon12 Merc Grease monkey Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Scottish Borders, UK Posts: 4,448	I'd go Sony all round tbh, ive got Sony Head Unit, Sony 50cms at the front, Sony 10" Sub, i had sony 6x9s onl my parcel shelf but my dad broke them so ive got JVC ones now, you dont need much for a good audio system, with what ive got its loud as hell and is as clear as a bell. __________________ 2005 SEAT Leon Cupra R - 221bhp & 206lb/ft

Jul 30, 2007, 4:24 PM	#9
monkeyfkker Whatever Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 14,482	I like you Hyphon so I won't talk too much crap about Sony but if I were to meter your system you'd crap if you saw the frequency response. Anyway Car Buff... stay away from Sony. I've been deeply involved in audio since the days when Sony WAS one of the best... __________________ Refrain from posting once in a while. - VTEC Drams

Jul 30, 2007, 4:47 PM	#11
monkeyfkker Whatever Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 14,482	In life you don't always get what you pay for... With audiophile and high end audio equipment, if you stay away from the fads, you generally get your money's worth. Places like West Coast Customs and Unique Autosports do great work... on tv... there are hundreds of installation shops that cost a fourth of what those places do AND do better work. Don't always think that the popular 'name brands' are anywhere near the best. The best equipment is usually hand built, limited in production, and somewhat expensive (though not always... Orion makes one of the best 12" subs around... for under 100 bucks). Because of this they're not the most well known names and people tend to under rate them. Not everyone knows who Nakamichi is but anyone who's seriously into audio will know... They're the best. In most things there's never one 'best'... Nakamichi is that exception. Anyway, don't take what I said wrong. There's nothing bad about Sony... I just wouldn't recommend them anymore. __________________ Refrain from posting once in a while. - VTEC Drams

Jul 30, 2007, 5:17 PM	#12
Car_buff OIF/OEF/OND/FTS Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chesepeake, va Posts: 9,301	yeah, sony is for playstations and tvs far as I'm concerned only big name foriegn brand I like that I know of is Hamman/Karmon (spelling, I cant always remember the name) I duno about circuit city though, will they install it and garuantee it for life? connecting the speakers and all I could do that easy. but the head unit, and replacing the 20 year old wires (which I want done, just cause), not me. I could do alot of things I havent had the chance to pull off yet, but this isnt one of them __________________ If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world-Tolkien

Jul 30, 2007, 5:29 PM	#13
monkeyfkker Whatever Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 14,482	Wiring is a lot trickier to do right than people think. Circuit City should warranty it. If not go to Best Buy. It's Harmon/Kardon and they're some of the best audiophile and high end equipment around... especially for home theaters. They make low end budget stuff as well but even it's pretty good. __________________ Refrain from posting once in a while. - VTEC Drams

Jul 30, 2007, 9:38 PM	#14
Kaoss Resident Otaku Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: White Rock, BC Posts: 6,547	Give this a try...Pioneer speakers and decks...the best along with Alpine. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1134701298078 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1134702498636 And for the deck... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1166840027190 MY FAVE http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1165610937533 See if that helps __________________ The only bitches and moans I deal with are the ones coming In/From my bedroom... - gr8dane

Jul 31, 2007, 10:48 AM	#15
monkeyfkker Whatever Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Kansas Posts: 14,482	lol... You don't need a 225 dollar head unit and imho I'd stay away from Alpine heads (their speakers are brilliant but their head units are made by Kenwood). Here Car Buff (if you decide to go to Car Toys): Pioneer Premier DEH-P390MP - it's a cd player that plays pretty much everything... mp3, wma, etc... $150.00 Infinity Reference 5012i 5.25" two way speakers - great full range speakers. I've heard these before and they're just below the Kappa series in quality... $80.00/pair That's $310.00 for the speakers and head unit... Add whatever the installation is and it should be less than $500.00... btw... those prices are from Car Toys. __________________ Refrain from posting once in a while. - VTEC Drams

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