what does bhp and whp stand for

Lancer 3v0 MR · Oct 17, 2004, 1:43 AM

Sorry im a newbie but what does bhp and whp stand for?

Ghalos · Oct 17, 2004, 1:52 AM

BHP is Brake Horsepower...It's the horsepower at the crankshaft if I'm not mistaken...

WHP is Wheel Horsepower...It's the power that actually gets to the wheels...From BHP to WHP there is usually about 15% power loss... :?

12 inch pianist · Oct 17, 2004, 4:47 AM

Brake horse power is mesured through a water break hence the name. Wheel horse power is usual quite alot lower and mesured on a dyna jet or something similer

Lancer 3v0 MR · Oct 17, 2004, 5:31 PM

ok thanx

puggles89 · Oct 19, 2004, 8:24 PM

there is about a 100 horsepower diff between the too. so when someone says the push 400whp it useally means that it is pushing 513-540 bhp. people who want to sound mean say bhp.

Importfan · Oct 19, 2004, 9:27 PM

I was always confused by this also, but i found out from my auto tech teacher last year

jimkk29 · Oct 20, 2004, 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by puggles89

there is about a 100 horsepower diff between the too. so when someone says the push 400whp it useally means that it is pushing 513-540 bhp. people who want to sound mean say bhp.

You're exaggerating, the difference is not that much... maybe about 10% at the most.

Rouin · Oct 20, 2004, 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by puggles89

there is about a 100 horsepower diff between the too. so when someone says the push 400whp it useally means that it is pushing 513-540 bhp. people who want to sound mean say bhp.

it's not a set "100 hp difference", it's a ratio. like ghalos said it's about 15% drivetrain loss on average. if it was a set 100 hp difference, what if a car had 90 bhp? would it then have -10 whp? FF cars have less drivetrain loss than FR or AWD cars have because the driveshaft has to reach the rear of the car instead of going straight down to the front wheels.

edit: after a quick google search it seems like most FF cars are getting ~15% loss, and FR cars are getting ~20% loss. AWD i think gets more loss, i actually saw a couple people saying 30% loss with AWD, but i don't really believe that.

puggles89 · Oct 20, 2004, 5:48 PM

I do.

and I based what I said for numbers of cars I have seen. supra pulling 1331 horsepower. then when you read about it it is roughly 1000-1100 horse.

Kirstyn · Oct 20, 2004, 6:20 PM

holy crap a 1331 hp supra

puggles89 · Oct 20, 2004, 7:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ckg690

holy crap a 1331 hp supra

yea lemme think if I can find it. noooo, no, no no, the site is down. later.

puggles89 · Oct 20, 2004, 9:50 PM

woops I was off by 200 horsepower
http://www.to4r.com/member.php?show=ken.henderson

Importfan · Oct 20, 2004, 9:52 PM

35 psi of boost

Turbo....Turbo....Turbo

Oct 17, 2004, 1:43 AM	#1
Lancer 3v0 MR Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 152	what does bhp and whp stand for Sorry im a newbie but what does bhp and whp stand for?

Oct 17, 2004, 1:52 AM	#2
Ghalos SCF Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 12,604	BHP is Brake Horsepower...It's the horsepower at the crankshaft if I'm not mistaken... WHP is Wheel Horsepower...It's the power that actually gets to the wheels...From BHP to WHP there is usually about 15% power loss... :? __________________ "I couldn't fire someone today and it made me sick, firing people is a perk of my job!"

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12 inch pianist Forum Napoleon Complex Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: On the good ship SS 300 Foot Pianist Posts: 3,349	Brake horse power is mesured through a water break hence the name. Wheel horse power is usual quite alot lower and mesured on a dyna jet or something similer __________________ I won't correct you if you're not wrong

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puggles89 Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,119	there is about a 100 horsepower diff between the too. so when someone says the push 400whp it useally means that it is pushing 513-540 bhp. people who want to sound mean say bhp. __________________ I'm a sucker for Progressive music, and jazz... isn't that weird?

Oct 19, 2004, 9:27 PM	#6
Importfan Danger,Death,Destruction Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New York, USA Posts: 1,124	I was always confused by this also, but i found out from my auto tech teacher last year __________________ "If you're going to make strong statements, know what the hell you're talking about first." -Ghalos-

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Lancer 3v0 MR Poster Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tacoma, Washington Posts: 152	ok thanx

Oct 20, 2004, 5:48 PM	#9
puggles89 Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,119	I do. and I based what I said for numbers of cars I have seen. supra pulling 1331 horsepower. then when you read about it it is roughly 1000-1100 horse. __________________ I'm a sucker for Progressive music, and jazz... isn't that weird?

Oct 20, 2004, 6:20 PM	#10
Kirstyn Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Just Outside Reality Posts: 7,101	holy crap a 1331 hp supra

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puggles89 Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: your back yard Posts: 1,119	woops I was off by 200 horsepower http://www.to4r.com/member.php?show=ken.henderson __________________ I'm a sucker for Progressive music, and jazz... isn't that weird?

Oct 20, 2004, 9:52 PM	#13
Importfan Danger,Death,Destruction Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: New York, USA Posts: 1,124	35 psi of boost Turbo....Turbo....Turbo __________________ "If you're going to make strong statements, know what the hell you're talking about first." -Ghalos-

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