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Old Jan 17, 2012, 5:07 PM   #16
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Suddenly I don't mind watching Sky's cleavage..I mean coverage...
Consider yourself a lucky person, here in the good ol'usa, our coverage comes from the SPEED network. Whose commentators consist of: Bob Varsha, David Hobbs, and Steve Matchett. I thouroghly enjoy listening to David Hobbs, and Steve Matchett, because they've both been there and they're both entertaining as well. I also read on PlanetF1.com that Damon Hill has joined SKY F1 network.
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 5:12 PM   #17
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Senna name back on a Williams Renault.....
I read on one of the F1 websites that Senna HAS replaced Rubens on the Williams team, and Rubens is now looking for a new ride.
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 8:29 PM   #18
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Here's the link to Senna officially in Williams. If Bruno had half the talent of Ayrton, he would be epic. Too bad he just plain sucks.

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...2/1/12929.html
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 9:14 PM   #19
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Solo I take it from this that barrichello is out.
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 9:48 PM   #20
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Money is powerful today. Williams technically have two pay drivers in Senna and Maldonado.

I dislike the signing personally with Buemi, Algersauri, Heidfeld, Petrov, and Sutil would have been in... Unless it was not for the accident in China.

People tell me he has earned his place... I don't know man, he seems wish-washy. He better be good... Name and Brazil behind him.
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Old Jan 17, 2012, 9:52 PM   #21
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I don't like him at all... he did nothing at hrt and will be ins pissing match.with Maldonado... that team will be inexistent this.season.
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 4:15 AM   #22
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He definitely grew with more races under his belt, but even then he was far from impressive. Yeah, that Renault was stale but there was nothing that he did that stood out or made me think "hmm, this guy has a talent there". He was quick sometimes, but it wasnt outstanding.

Why you would put Senna into that Williams and not Sutil is beyond me. He is superior to Bruno in every aspect, raw talent, consistency, set up nous, reading of conditions etc. Why would you not try and bring him in? Bah, im just sad to see Rubens go without the big send off he deserved.

And how Maldonado is driving in F1 in place of all those other drivers is the most baffling thing this year. Crap driver.
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 7:56 AM   #23
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Rubens should have quit at the end of the 2009 season.... the highest he was going to end up for a while, and he knows it...

Btw that is post 11111
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Old Jan 18, 2012, 8:58 AM   #24
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So i dont understand why no one is talking about thus huge controversy over Lotuses new break and suspension adjust mechanism. We know the rules state that suspensions cannot adjust since back in the early 90's with benetones amazing car under prost. But the loop hole states that since it is tied to the brake system it is not illega. Why Lotus let htis get out is dumb because it would have been the new break threough.
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^^ Its a very clever system by all esitmation, but we dont know exacty how it works so its not like they made it and then went "hey everyone, look at what weve done, heres a diagram!

It was going to get out because it was controversial, now everyone will copy it because it gets round a loophole, it will be used by everyone then banned at the end of the year.

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The Lotus team appear to have stolen an early march on their rivals with a technical innovation that could provide an important advantage.

The team, who raced as Renault last year and have ex-champion Kimi Raikkonen as one of their drivers, have developed a ride-height control system.

The device, which has been declared legal by governing body the FIA, aims to improve stability during braking.

BBC Sport can reveal that Ferrari are working on a similar system.

Details of the Lotus system are vague, but it is understood to be operated via a hydraulic cylinder on the front suspension that reacts to braking forces.

The aim is to keep the ride height as close to constant during braking as possible - any change in the ride height of an F1 car can have a major effect on its aerodynamics because it affects the airflow over and under the car.

Even though suspension travel on an F1 car is only a matter of millimetres, any change affects the car's behaviour, and teams are constantly working on ways to keep the airflow as consistent as possible despite the high forces during braking - which exceed 5G.

BBC Sport understands Ferrari are the only other team to have contacted the FIA on this issue and that they have plans for a similar system.

Team boss Stefano Domenicali was asked about the issue at the team's annual media event in the Italian Dolomites. He did not admit that they were working on a ride-height control system, but he did refer to the debate.

"It is more related to having stability under braking," Domenicali said.

"It is a system that I know there have been some documents in writing between the FIA and the teams.

"We are waiting for the final confirmation if this kind of devices will be acceptable or not. But for sure we are looking around these sorts of devices to see if they contribute to a performance. But we need to wait and see what will be the reaction to the FIA on that."

There has been speculation about the legality of the device but BBC Sport understands the idea was first suggested to the FIA in 2010 and the governing body declared it legal early last year.

It remains to be seen whether other teams will raise objections to the idea on the grounds that it amounts to a movable aerodynamic device - this catch-all phrase has been used over the years to ban a number of devices that control the movement of a car's chassis.

But the FIA considers that this rule is not relevant as the device in question is a part of the suspension and does not contravene that area of the rules.

Sources have likened the Lotus system to a more sophisticated version of rising-rate suspension, where the stiffness of the springs changes depending on the amount of movement of the wheels.

Articles 10.1 and 10.2 of the F1 technical regulations are the rules that are relevant to this device, the FIA believes.

Article 10.1.2 states that any suspension movement must result "only from changes in load applied to the wheels" - which this does as the system responds to braking torque.

And article 10.2.2 states: "Any powered device which is capable of altering the configuration or affecting the performance of any part of the suspension system is forbidden."

But the Lotus device is not powered, but entirely passive.

Nor is it controlled by the driver, as one report has suggested, which would be illegal.
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Thats the kind of stuff I want to see, now we got to see what Mclaren and RBR come out with, thre got to be somethign new with thes blown diffuser ban.
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If you don't want to read that entire article... the short watered down version's on formula1.com

http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2012/0/923.html
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Basically it will be banned before the season starts.
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What I want to see is how big a difference this makes.
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Will be noticeable on some of the.front runners.... but not on that car... plus kimi has no idea what braking is...
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