World Supercar Comparison

DarkVenom666 · Nov 23, 2003, 3:37 PM

America, Brittain, Belgium, Italia, Germany, The Netherlands, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, France all have 1 or 2 of their very best supercars listed here. No concepts, only production cars are allowed.

Pick your car by it's design, performance and by how practical it would be. Do not choose a car by a single factor, pick your car by considering all factors.

The list is as follows:

America:

Mosler MT900S Photon:

Curb Weight: 2144 lbs
Horsepower: 435 bhp @ 6000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed: 165 mph (aerodynamically limited)

Saleen S7:

Curb Weight: 2870 lbs
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 6400 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: est 215 mph

Brittain:

Farboud GTS:

Curb Weight: 2640 lbs
Horsepower: 580 bhp @ 5000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: 200 mph

Caterham Superlight R500:

Wheight: 433kg
Horsepower: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.4 sec
Top Speed: 146 mph

Italia:

Ferrari Enzo:

Curb Weight: 3230 lbs
Horsepower: 650 bhp @ 7800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: 217 mph

Pagani Zonda C12-S 7.3:

Curb Weight: 2756 lbs
Horsepower: 555 bhp @ 5900 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
Top Speed: 220 mph

Germany:

Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR:

Curb Weight: ---- lbs ( if anyone knows the exact numbers of it's wheight, tell me! )
Horsepower: 650 bhp @ 6800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed: 199 mph

Porsche 911 GT1

Curb Weight: 2756 lbs
Horsepower: 544 bhp @ 7000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
Top Speed: 206 mph

The Netherlands:

Donkervoort D8 210 Sport:

Wheight: 630kg
Power: 206 hp @ 6000 rpm
0-100km/h: 4.0 sec
Top Speed: 235 km/h

Spyker C8 Double12 S:

Wheight: 1215kg
Power: 620 bhp @ 9500 rpm
0-100km/h: 3.8 sec
Top Speed: 348 km/h

Japan:

Yamaha OX99-11:

Curb Weight: 2535 lbs
Horsepower: 400 bhp @ 10000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.2 sec
Top Speed: 217 mph

Schuppan 962:

Weight: 2156 lbs
Horsepower: 600 BHP @ 7000 RPM
0-60: mph 3.4 sec
Top Speed: 216 mph

Belgium:

Gillet Vertigo GT2:

Weight: ---- lbs (if anyone has the exact numbers, tell me)
Horsepower: 225.6 hp @ 6200 RPM
0-60 mph: 4.5 sec
Top Speed: 155.4 mph

Switzerland:

Monteverdi Hai 650 F1:

Weight: 1874.3 lbs
Horsepower: 578 HP @ 11000 RPM
0-60MPH: 3.0 secs
Top Speed: 208.2 mph-

France:

Bugatti EB 110 GT:

Weight: 3126 lbs
Horsepower: 650.0 bhp @ 8000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.35 seconds
Top Speed: 217.0 mph

Sweden:

Koenigsegg CC V8 S:

Weight: 2579.9 lbs.
Horsepower: 655 HP @ 6800 RPM
0-60 mph: 655 HP @ 6800 RPM
Top Speed: 240 mph

I can't make a poll, cause it'll have too many choices, so we'll just have to do it manually.

McLaren F1 LM · Nov 23, 2003, 3:50 PM

i love spyker but in this one i'd have to chose the pagani zonda. just faster :wink:

DarkVenom666 · Nov 23, 2003, 3:51 PM

LOL, what did i tell you!?! Don't only pick one by it's performance :wink: :P ! But still, the Pagani isn't a bad choice :wink: .

jimkk29 · Nov 23, 2003, 5:37 PM

1. The Enzo has 660 HP.
2. Bugatti is an Italian company.
3. NONE of these cars is practical, so based on the other 2 factors I'd choose the Mercedes CLK-GTR.

mallon · Nov 23, 2003, 5:55 PM

oh nice selection, even if a few a a little out of place, the Bugatti and Donkervoort maybe.

But still nice selection. I love the farbound but im not sure itll ever go into production...

so id have the koenigsegg or the pagini.

Schumi · Nov 23, 2003, 6:05 PM

I will go with the Ferrari Enzo for its perfomance and its beauty...
If not this I will go with the Mercedes Benz CLK GTR.
Great car IMO, very well aerodynamics and great perfomance...
Oh, and I really doubt about the top speed of the Pagani.Are you sure 220mph???
That's close to 400Km/h...
Pagani dont have this top speed for sure.The top speed of Pagani is close to 350km/h far enough...

teammobot · Nov 23, 2003, 6:58 PM

That's an awesome list of cars!

I couldn't choose though. Maybe we should also include prices?

8)

agitatedcorn · Nov 23, 2003, 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teammobot

That's an awesome list of cars!

I couldn't choose though. Maybe we should also include prices?

8)

I agree although I don't really like any of them per say...

BluCamSS · Nov 23, 2003, 10:26 PM

I choose the Enzo Ferrari based on how it excells in EVERY category.

But some of your information in wrong:
It has 660 horsepower, not 650.
It weighs just over 3000 pounds, not 3200.
0-60 mph is 3.1 sec (According to Motor Trend AND Auto Week) so 3.3 has been bested twice.

Ghalos · Nov 24, 2003, 9:31 AM

Hmmm...For one, that Mosler isn't the Photon, it's the "S" version, but hey, it doesn't matter, they look identical from the outside, the Mosler Photon, also it hits 60 in 3.1 seconds...Anyways, anything from the U.S., and the only reason is because just about every single car on that list is perfect, and as such, national pride won me over... 8)

BluCamSS · Nov 24, 2003, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghalos

Hmmm...For one, that Mosler isn't the Photon, it's the "S" version, but hey, it doesn't matter, they look identical from the outside, the Mosler Photon, also it hits 60 in 3.1 seconds...Anyways, anything from the U.S., and the only reason is because just about every single car on that list is perfect, and as such, national pride won me over... 8)

The reason the S ain't on there I'm gonna guess is because it is a stripper race car. It has NOTHING, no sound deading, no A/C, no power steering, no ABS, nothing. The regular Mosler is the one to compare to the others, not the S race car version. Plus the S is set up for 0-1/4 mile runs, top speed is only like 150 or so.

Raith83 · Nov 24, 2003, 1:23 PM

I was getting worried until I got to the last car

!!! This car is very attractive to anyone with a pulse, it has a very powerful V-8, it isn't among the heaviest cars, the build materials are sweet!(honeycomb kevlar and carbon fibre) The interior is freaking awesome, just like the rest of this car. Oooooooh buddy, my vote is for the Koenigsegg CC V8 S!!!!!

:mrgreen:

Ghalos · Nov 24, 2003, 1:26 PM

Point, it's more of a "go out for the afternoon and not have to tow your car to the track" vehicle...
It's bloody fast though...0-100-0, according to Motor Trend, is 11.1 seconds...beating the previous record holder, a 1997 McLaren F1 LM

DarkVenom666 · Nov 24, 2003, 2:58 PM

Quote:

1. The Enzo has 660 HP.
2. Bugatti is an Italian company.
3. NONE of these cars is practical, so based on the other 2 factors I'd choose the Mercedes CLK-GTR.

Sorry, i got the info from the better known, major sites, so i can't help it if the info is wrong... Again, sorry

.

And Bugatti is a French company, according to conceptcarz.com ( the site i got it's info from. ).

I know they wouldn't be very practical, but if you had to choose your daily driver out of this selection, then wich one would be the most practical, that's what i meant :wink: .

Quote:

oh nice selection, even if a few a a little out of place, the Bugatti and Donkervoort maybe.

But still nice selection. I love the farbound but im not sure itll ever go into production...

Yes, a few cars are a bit out of place on a circuit, but i put them on the list cause they are one's country best sportscar.

According to fast-autos.net, this car is already in production...

Quote:

Oh, and I really doubt about the top speed of the Pagani.Are you sure 220mph???
That's close to 400Km/h...
Pagani dont have this top speed for sure.The top speed of Pagani is close to 350km/h far enough...

220mp/h is about 330-340km/h. And it's top speed is 338km/h.

Quote:

Maybe we should also include prices?

Well, i guess that's possible, but then we'd get huge differences ( ex. the Zonda C12-S 7.3 is over 800.000 euros while the D8 210 Sport is about 53.000 euro's. ).

Quote:

But some of your information in wrong:
It has 660 horsepower, not 650.
It weighs just over 3000 pounds, not 3200.
0-60 mph is 3.1 sec (According to Motor Trend AND Auto Week) so 3.3 has been bested twice.

Again, i got my info from the better known sportscar sites, i just copied the info on here, sorry.

Quote:

Hmmm...For one, that Mosler isn't the Photon, it's the "S" version, but hey, it doesn't matter, they look identical from the outside, the Mosler Photon, also it hits 60 in 3.1 seconds...

Please, read the above text :wink: .

F1356WRCRS · Nov 24, 2003, 3:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimkk29

1. The Enzo has 660 HP.
2. Bugatti is an Italian company.
3. NONE of these cars is practical, so based on the other 2 factors I'd choose the Mercedes CLK-GTR.

The original Bugatti was French. The EB 110 was built by an Italian company that boght the name. They then sold it to Volkswagen. Also, your stats for the Enzo are accurate. Sure some magazines may have gotten better times, but 3.3 is a good average. I think that the new Bugatti Veyron shold be on the list, as well as the Porsche Carrera GT. I'd pick the Koenigsegg CC because it has good looks and good performance. It's also some what practical.

Nov 23, 2003, 3:37 PM	#1
DarkVenom666 Experienced Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 723	World Supercar Comparison America, Brittain, Belgium, Italia, Germany, The Netherlands, Japan, Sweden, Switzerland, France all have 1 or 2 of their very best supercars listed here. No concepts, only production cars are allowed. Pick your car by it's design, performance and by how practical it would be. Do not choose a car by a single factor, pick your car by considering all factors. The list is as follows: America: Mosler MT900S Photon: Curb Weight: 2144 lbs Horsepower: 435 bhp @ 6000 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.5 sec Top Speed: 165 mph (aerodynamically limited) Saleen S7: Curb Weight: 2870 lbs Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 6400 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.3 sec Top Speed: est 215 mph Brittain: Farboud GTS: Curb Weight: 2640 lbs Horsepower: 580 bhp @ 5000 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.3 sec Top Speed: 200 mph Caterham Superlight R500: Wheight: 433kg Horsepower: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.4 sec Top Speed: 146 mph Italia: Ferrari Enzo: Curb Weight: 3230 lbs Horsepower: 650 bhp @ 7800 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.3 sec Top Speed: 217 mph Pagani Zonda C12-S 7.3: Curb Weight: 2756 lbs Horsepower: 555 bhp @ 5900 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec Top Speed: 220 mph Germany: Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR: Curb Weight: ---- lbs ( if anyone knows the exact numbers of it's wheight, tell me! ) Horsepower: 650 bhp @ 6800 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.5 sec Top Speed: 199 mph Porsche 911 GT1 Curb Weight: 2756 lbs Horsepower: 544 bhp @ 7000 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec Top Speed: 206 mph The Netherlands: Donkervoort D8 210 Sport: Wheight: 630kg Power: 206 hp @ 6000 rpm 0-100km/h: 4.0 sec Top Speed: 235 km/h Spyker C8 Double12 S: Wheight: 1215kg Power: 620 bhp @ 9500 rpm 0-100km/h: 3.8 sec Top Speed: 348 km/h Japan: Yamaha OX99-11: Curb Weight: 2535 lbs Horsepower: 400 bhp @ 10000 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.2 sec Top Speed: 217 mph Schuppan 962: Weight: 2156 lbs Horsepower: 600 BHP @ 7000 RPM 0-60: mph 3.4 sec Top Speed: 216 mph Belgium: Gillet Vertigo GT2: Weight: ---- lbs (if anyone has the exact numbers, tell me) Horsepower: 225.6 hp @ 6200 RPM 0-60 mph: 4.5 sec Top Speed: 155.4 mph Switzerland: Monteverdi Hai 650 F1: Weight: 1874.3 lbs Horsepower: 578 HP @ 11000 RPM 0-60MPH: 3.0 secs Top Speed: 208.2 mph- France: Bugatti EB 110 GT: Weight: 3126 lbs Horsepower: 650.0 bhp @ 8000 rpm 0-60 mph: 3.35 seconds Top Speed: 217.0 mph Sweden: Koenigsegg CC V8 S: Weight: 2579.9 lbs. Horsepower: 655 HP @ 6800 RPM 0-60 mph: 655 HP @ 6800 RPM Top Speed: 240 mph I can't make a poll, cause it'll have too many choices, so we'll just have to do it manually. __________________ You got your Jezus on the dashboard, but the Devil's under my hood.

Nov 23, 2003, 3:51 PM	#3
DarkVenom666 Experienced Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 723	LOL, what did i tell you!?! Don't only pick one by it's performance :wink: :P ! But still, the Pagani isn't a bad choice :wink: . __________________ You got your Jezus on the dashboard, but the Devil's under my hood.

Nov 23, 2003, 6:05 PM	#6
Schumi Italian Freak Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Greece Posts: 1,933	I will go with the Ferrari Enzo for its perfomance and its beauty... If not this I will go with the Mercedes Benz CLK GTR. Great car IMO, very well aerodynamics and great perfomance... Oh, and I really doubt about the top speed of the Pagani.Are you sure 220mph??? That's close to 400Km/h... Pagani dont have this top speed for sure.The top speed of Pagani is close to 350km/h far enough... __________________ Does your car have this engine? Does it have this stability on road? Does it have SOUL? ALFA 159

Nov 24, 2003, 9:31 AM	#10
Ghalos SCF Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 12,557	Hmmm...For one, that Mosler isn't the Photon, it's the "S" version, but hey, it doesn't matter, they look identical from the outside, the Mosler Photon, also it hits 60 in 3.1 seconds...Anyways, anything from the U.S., and the only reason is because just about every single car on that list is perfect, and as such, national pride won me over... 8) __________________ "I couldn't fire someone today and it made me sick, firing people is a perk of my job!"

Nov 24, 2003, 1:23 PM	#12
Raith83 Tokyo Xtreme Racer 4 life Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toledo / Ohio / U.S.A. Posts: 1,667	I was getting worried until I got to the last car !!! This car is very attractive to anyone with a pulse, it has a very powerful V-8, it isn't among the heaviest cars, the build materials are sweet!(honeycomb kevlar and carbon fibre) The interior is freaking awesome, just like the rest of this car. Oooooooh buddy, my vote is for the Koenigsegg CC V8 S!!!!! :mrgreen: __________________ [color=green]"I don't break the rules, I bend them......alot"[/color]

Nov 23, 2003, 3:50 PM	#2
McLaren F1 LM Experienced Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto,Canada Posts: 554	i love spyker but in this one i'd have to chose the pagani zonda. just faster :wink:

Nov 23, 2003, 5:37 PM	#4
jimkk29 SCF Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,080	1. The Enzo has 660 HP. 2. Bugatti is an Italian company. 3. NONE of these cars is practical, so based on the other 2 factors I'd choose the Mercedes CLK-GTR.

Nov 23, 2003, 5:55 PM	#5
mallon Enthusiast Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,371	oh nice selection, even if a few a a little out of place, the Bugatti and Donkervoort maybe. But still nice selection. I love the farbound but im not sure itll ever go into production... so id have the koenigsegg or the pagini.

Nov 23, 2003, 6:58 PM	#7
teammobot Junior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 64	That's an awesome list of cars! I couldn't choose though. Maybe we should also include prices? 8)

Nov 23, 2003, 10:26 PM	#9
BluCamSS Forum Guru Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Better places! Posts: 2,277	I choose the Enzo Ferrari based on how it excells in EVERY category. But some of your information in wrong: It has 660 horsepower, not 650. It weighs just over 3000 pounds, not 3200. 0-60 mph is 3.1 sec (According to Motor Trend AND Auto Week) so 3.3 has been bested twice.

Nov 24, 2003, 1:26 PM	#13
Ghalos SCF Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: New York Posts: 12,557	Point, it's more of a "go out for the afternoon and not have to tow your car to the track" vehicle... It's bloody fast though...0-100-0, according to Motor Trend, is 11.1 seconds...beating the previous record holder, a 1997 McLaren F1 LM __________________ "I couldn't fire someone today and it made me sick, firing people is a perk of my job!"

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