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Old Nov 29, 2005, 7:29 AM   #16
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Well.....if it's a drag race I'l choose the Supra.For performance I'll also choose the Supra.Well....certainly not the stock supra when I mention those 2 above.Taking into consideration that Blitz Supra has done quite alot in Nurburgring it's also safe to say that Supra's performance when tune is stupidly fast!!!!THe Supra for me.BTW....Stock supra can;'t do alot.
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the blitz supra has done nothing "impressive"....There are dozen's of stock cars that have spanked it..
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Supras a car you see at a drag strip parking lot. Mustangs a car you see racing the strip..
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OH MY GOD!!! I'm agreeing with a FORD fan!! lol
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Well.....if it's a drag race I'l choose the Supra.For performance I'll also choose the Supra.Well....certainly not the stock supra when I mention those 2 above.Taking into consideration that Blitz Supra has done quite alot in Nurburgring it's also safe to say that Supra's performance when tune is stupidly fast!!!!THe Supra for me.BTW....Stock supra can;'t do alot.
Stupidly fast as in there is not ONE Supra in the world that can hang with the best stangs (plural, as in more than one) down the strip? Ok then......
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somebody needs to post the world record 1/4 times for both cars...
aside from slow's nice post with ACTAUL FACTS, Im not convinced at all with this thread. too many "im cool too, i hate poopra's too" comments.
It just seems that both cars are sought out for the same reason: big hp numbers an straight line performance. seriously, how often do you hear someone talking about either car that aren't talking about horsepower?
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but stock for stock, mustang is faster
http://www.engine-power.com/toyota/supra_mk4tt.html

http://www.engine-power.com/ford/mustang_cobra.html
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Old Nov 29, 2005, 7:48 PM   #22
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somebody needs to post the world record 1/4 times for both cars...
aside from slow's nice post with ACTAUL FACTS, Im not convinced at all with this thread. too many "im cool too, i hate poopra's too" comments.
It just seems that both cars are sought out for the same reason: big hp numbers an straight line performance. seriously, how often do you hear someone talking about either car that aren't talking about horsepower?

Another valid point would be that even IF, and thats a very far off "IF", Supras could run the same times, the mere fact that there is easilly a 10:1 ratio of Mustangs vs the same capable supras validates which plaform is more reasonable on the wallet, easier to put in those brackets, and in the end, a more capable vehicle. Even if you were to find Supras common at even say 5k a pop, it would still cost far more initial investment than would be required for the Mustang. Most of which the following would be key factors in the Mustangs dominance.

#1 Parts availability.

#2 Displacement advantage.

#3 Availability of donor parts.

#4 The Mustang is far easier to work on.

I'd say with those options it will always maintain a positive lead over the Supras with ease. The reason I refer to Supras as "Poopras" is because of fanboys who wave the flag in spite of other cars, especially when you're not exactly "Top of the food chain". That would be like me stating that the Fox Chassis is superior to vettes on road course performance. Stock to stock. Not a chance. Even modified the layout for the Vette compared to the Fox is far superior. Therefore why would I compare them in that context? In fact in no way shape or form (other than looks, its all about personal preference there) is the Supra superior to the Mustang. Any comments about reliability on the Supra are shot down by the simple fact that the Mustang is so easy to work on, even if it DID break something, availability and quality of parts over here accompanied by low asking prices for said mods is severely lower than the Supra.

Here's some more stangs to wet your whistle so to speak.

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...309mms2_lynch/

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_profiles/BradBrand.htm

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...m_springbreak/

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.co...s/0306mm_dead/

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_prof...ikeMurillo.htm

http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_interviews/BigDaddy.htm


http://www.hardcore50.com/racer_prof...Ortiz-Lugo.htm
http://www.hardcore50.com/Articles/E...hHollywood.htm
Erica Ortiz-Lugo - "I compete my stock suspension, turbocharged mustang in the Fun Ford Weekend Drag Radial class, to a career best of 8.42 on a radial, and 8.20 on a slick, at over 172 mph."

Here's some of the more recent records posted below.
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actual facts?
Worlds fastest IRS Car is a Supra..

but who cars?

Worlds fastest "street legal supra" is also the worlds fastest IRS Supra..

which is in the 8's..

sorry...but the worlds fastest street legal 05 stang is already about to top that..

let alone fox's
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Now that's something.However,the Supra is already dead.Lets see....last model is 1997 rite.And the Mustang is still under production.So as an everyday car I don't see why we won't choose the Mustang.However in terms of performance,arggghhhhhh,I still can't choose the Mustang over a Supra.The Supra is juzz sooooooooo freaking fast.I don't see a Mustang win a Supra in a drag race.Someone pls show me some facts to prove me wrong!!!!!Yeah....Im noit talking bout stocks.I'm talking bout mod Sup and Mus
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Slow has several posts with evidence of the mustang being faster, the last model was 98 to. Supras are turds that handle like boats and the mustang is far more tuner friendly.
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Now that's something.However,the Supra is already dead.Lets see....last model is 1997 rite.And the Mustang is still under production.So as an everyday car I don't see why we won't choose the Mustang.However in terms of performance,arggghhhhhh,I still can't choose the Mustang over a Supra.The Supra is juzz sooooooooo freaking fast.I don't see a Mustang win a Supra in a drag race.Someone pls show me some facts to prove me wrong!!!!!
Dude. I posted the FACTS. Supras get DESTROYED by mustangs down the strip. Here let me educate you a bit. There is not supra in the world, that is this fast.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....762A&kw=5&p=79

More videos, to enjoy.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....A93C&kw=5&p=78

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....E49C&kw=5&p=78

I watch THIS video and I think...gee. Either Supras have shitty transmissions cause thats a common excuse in these videos, OR they're just retarded. Either way. Cobra, less than 2 hours worth of work from factory trim, and cost as much BRAND NEW as some used Supras go for. Keep that in mind.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....498B&kw=5&p=77

Hrrmm. Every supra claiming serious numbers actually gets a dyno readout. Figure out why this guy cant.....

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....7728&kw=5&p=72

This didnt even look like anyone raced. However, i want you to note the words of a knowedgable Supra owner when something unsuspected comes to the line...

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....E424&kw=5&p=72

Only cause the ending of this video is hilarious...

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....DB1B&kw=5&p=70

This car displays everything a Supra, is NOT and will never be.
Yes there are faster supras, but this car was assembled for FAR less. I guarantee it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....72C5&kw=5&p=27

Hahahaha,..Supra has something on this? HAHAHA.

Whats the difference between this car and a supra with 200 more ponies? This car is a full second faster. HAHAHA

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....D523&kw=5&p=27

I cant find the video with the BPU++ red Supra getting absolutely destroyed by a pulley swapped S281E. They go three times and the S281E just,..just destroys him.....

If anybody can find that video, or the one called specifically this..

"Giddy Up My Ass". It has the clip in it of the Supra being humiliated.

Enjoy the videos.
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Slow has several posts with evidence of the mustang being faster, the last model was 98 to. Supras are turds that handle like boats and the mustang is far more tuner friendly.
handles like a boat?.. wanna explain this to me?.. and the mustang handles like a lotus rite??





dont mind these guys.. alot of people in this forum are anti-japanese and have no respect for other cars
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Dude. I posted the FACTS. Supras get DESTROYED by mustangs down the strip. Here let me educate you a bit. There is not supra in the world, that is this fast.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....762A&kw=5&p=79

More videos, to enjoy.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....A93C&kw=5&p=78

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....E49C&kw=5&p=78

I watch THIS video and I think...gee. Either Supras have shitty transmissions cause thats a common excuse in these videos, OR they're just retarded. Either way. Cobra, less than 2 hours worth of work from factory trim, and cost as much BRAND NEW as some used Supras go for. Keep that in mind.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....498B&kw=5&p=77

Hrrmm. Every supra claiming serious numbers actually gets a dyno readout. Figure out why this guy cant.....

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....7728&kw=5&p=72

This didnt even look like anyone raced. However, i want you to note the words of a knowedgable Supra owner when something unsuspected comes to the line...

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....E424&kw=5&p=72

Only cause the ending of this video is hilarious...

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....DB1B&kw=5&p=70

This car displays everything a Supra, is NOT and will never be.
Yes there are faster supras, but this car was assembled for FAR less. I guarantee it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....72C5&kw=5&p=27

Hahahaha,..Supra has something on this? HAHAHA.

Whats the difference between this car and a supra with 200 more ponies? This car is a full second faster. HAHAHA

http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....D523&kw=5&p=27

I cant find the video with the BPU++ red Supra getting absolutely destroyed by a pulley swapped S281E. They go three times and the S281E just,..just destroys him.....

If anybody can find that video, or the one called specifically this..

"Giddy Up My Ass". It has the clip in it of the Supra being humiliated.

Enjoy the videos.


okee the videos of stang 1/4 mile.. they arent even street legal..

there is a celica that can do 6's by turbonetics.. with a toyota V8 1UZ-FE.. which btw is very ***en cheap to get.. i seen them for 300$...

anyways my point is.. does that mean a celica is better then a mustang?... or a supra?..


with money and time alot of cars can be crazy fast..

why dont you guys just compare a 93-98 supra TT with a mustang cobra from those years.. stock for stock.. this modifying talk can go on forever..
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the blitz supra has done nothing "impressive"....There are dozen's of stock cars that have spanked it..
i ve yet to see a mustang that can out do the blitz supra time on the nurburgring..
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okee the videos of stang 1/4 mile.. they arent even street legal..

there is a celica that can do 6's by turbonetics.. with a toyota V8 1UZ-FE.. which btw is very ***en cheap to get.. i seen them for 300$...

anyways my point is.. does that mean a celica is better then a mustang?... or a supra?..


with money and time alot of cars can be crazy fast..

why dont you guys just compare a 93-98 supra TT with a mustang cobra from those years.. stock for stock.. this modifying talk can go on forever..
Wrong. Brad Brands car is street legal. Erica Ortiz-Lugos car, is street legal. Ronnie Wilsons little green coupe, is street legal. Thats why its called the Super Street/Outlaw (SS/O) class. Even if we were to say "not street legal", which the fact stil remains, those cars ARE street legal, the worlds fastest Supra does what now? Say it with me slowly. "Not anywhere near the times of the worlds fastest mustangs".

Learn your facts before you post. Simple request.

I like the Celica comment you made. Note that it has a V8, its in a tube chassis (The mustangs are not) and has a fiberglass drop-over body(The mustangs dont). However, lets look at this too. Whats the displacement of the 1uzfe? Whats the configuration? Oh yeah, and that 1uzfe is definitely going to be punched out. Nice try but no cigar. You're claiming the same crap that people like the FWD Pro classes where they say "Oh that civic runs low 8's!!". Nevermind that its full tube chassis, fiberglass body, has a H22 block in it, with a huge turbo hanging off the front. Better look deep into the NMRA ranks and figure out whats what before commenting.

As far as comparing the 93 Cobra to the 93 Supra stock to stock. Nope, its slower than the Supra. Around a road course though? Highly doubt it. Did you know there was a full track bred 93 Cobra R? Or would that have interupted your Supra worship time? Its still a fox though and lets be honest. Who keeps either of the cars stock? Lets reflash back to something else. In fact here let me put it simply like this.

Show me the fastest Supra time down the 1320 you have ever seen.

I will then share the fastest Mustang time.

The simple fact is you wouldnt and dont want to because you KNOW 100% that it is a fact. The worlds fastest Supras cant hang with the worlds fastest Mustangs.

That ALONE speaks volumes for the capacity of the Mustang, and its superior capability to to the Supra.

So. One aftermarket "tuner" gets a Supra to run quick around the Nurburgring, and all of a sudden they're a great platform? No. Extensive tuning, and major cash investment was obviously a necessity to get that car to run like that. I would LOVE to see a highly tuned stang go around the track. Not that I think it would beat a lot of the cars around the track, thats just unrealistic and I know it. Unlike Supra fans and a lot of their claims.....

Anyhow nothing i have said is lacking of supported facts, and if you still love Supras then thats your thing, I dont hate on people for that. Stick with the facts though. Which means the worlds fastest Mustangs, are faster than the worlds fastest Supras. Ironclad, in stone, done deal. Any questions, ask my agent.....


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with money and time alot of cars can be crazy fast..
So true man, but here's another factual statement. the Mustang remains its appeal because,...you dont HAVE to throw down horrendous amounts of cash to get it smokin down the 1/4.


Oh and i'm not "Anti-Japanese" as you put it. One of the cars that remains in the forefront of my mind as a future project IS in fact a H22A1 powered CRX. The simple fact of the matter is the "Japanese" cars that I am so "Anti", are driven by people who live in their own little fantasyland. Bottom line. No import has touched American Dominance in straight line acceleration. Anyone who tells you otherwise, is a blatant ricemonkey. That too, is a fact.
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