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... Which car is better than others? Who would win? Compare them head to head.

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Old Sep 23, 2004, 10:14 PM   #1
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Default The Motherload- The largest Comparo Topic EVER!!!!

Ok this is it guys. The most extreme comparo yet. I know i usually have these big intros, but i'll keep it short. Everyone wants a race car, and you finally win the lottery. You buy lots of assorted things, super cars, houses, yachts. Then one day you get a letter stating "dear _______, you have been choosen to compete in the exclusive cross country rally. A small selection of participants have been entered. You can use any car you want, as long as it isn't an open wheeled car. The race will take place on _______ and the prize is a Gulfstream 4. Hope to see you there". Ok, pretty damn far fetched, but its a fantasy, so just go with it. So, you know whats up. You need a race car. Just pick one out of the many i will offer, and PLEASE GIVE YOUR REASON FOR CHOOSING AND PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY IT IS THE SUPERIOR OPTION. Please dont just say so and so. If your going to do that, just dont post. So, happy posting.

So you go to your local race team and ask what factory race car would be the best for a race like this. They say the following....

"the audi R8"

Price $1,000,000
Miles Per Gallon (racing):4 mpg
Curb Weight:1997 lbs
Layout:Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission:6-Speed Sequential
engine: Twin turbo V-8
Displacement: 3595 cc
Horsepower: 610 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm
Redline: 8050 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 5.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.3 sec @ 148 mph
Top Speed: 205 mph

"the Bentley Speed 8"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp
Top Speed: 215 mph

"The BMW V12 LMR"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Engine
Type: V12
Displacement: 5990 cc
Horsepower: 590 bhp @ 4500 rpm
Torque: 500 lb-ft
Top Speed: 217 mph

"The BMW M3 GTR"

Price: $470,000
Miles Per Gallon: 5 mpg (racing)
Curb Weight: 2469 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 3997 cc
Horsepower: 444 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 354 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 7.1 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.3 sec @ 125 mph
Top Speed: 165 mph

"the Cadillac LMP02"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 4000 cc
Horsepower: 600+ bhp
Redline: 7500 rpm
Top Speed: 200+ mph

"the Cadillac CTS-V racecar"

Curb Weight: 2900 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 5725 cc
Horsepower: 500+ bhp @ 7200 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 7600 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Top Speed: 165 mph

"The Callaway Corvette LM"

Price: $140,000
Miles Per Gallon: 11/21 mpg
Curb Weight: 3170 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6267 cc
Horsepower: 470 bhp @ 5750 rpm
Torque: 450 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 12.5 sec @ 117 mph
Skidpad: .94g
Top Speed: 182 mph

"the Chevrolet C5R"

Price: $440,000 Curb Weight: 2650 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6980 cc
Horsepower: 610 bhp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 570 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 6800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.3 sec @ 136 mph
Skidpad: 1.44g

"The Dahlback Racing Golf RSi" (ok, not a factory race car, but still cool as hell)

Price: Approx $275,000 Curb Weight: 3175 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-5
Displacement: 2110 cc
Horsepower: 900 bhp
Torque: 685 lb-ft
Redline: 8500 rpm

"The Dauer 962 LM"

Price: $853,000
Curb Weight: 2381 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Tiptronic
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 2994 cc
Horsepower: 730 bhp @ 7400 rpm
Torque: 517 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 7800 rpm
0-60 mph: 2.6 sec
Top Speed: est 250 mph

"the Dodge Viper competition coupe"

Price: $100,000
Miles Per Gallon (Racing): 5.0 mpg
Curb Weight: 2995 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V10
Displacement: 8277 cc
Horsepower: 520 bhp @ 5600 rpm
Torque: 540 lb-ft @ 4600 rpm
Redline: 6000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec
0-100 mph: 7.8 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.7 sec @ 123 mph
Skidpad: 1.15g
Top Speed: 192 mph

"The ferrari 360 GTC"

Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V8
Displacement: 3586 cc
Horsepower: 445 bhp @ 8750 rpm
Redline: 8750 rpm

"The ferrari 575 GTC"

Price: $785,000
Curb Weight: 2425 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V12
Displacement: 5997 cc
Horsepower: 605 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 538 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed: 208 mph

"The Gemballa GTR 750 Evo"

Price: $262,000
Curb Weight: 3350 lbs
Layout: Rear-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3800 cc
Horsepower: 850 bhp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 690 lb-ft @ 6150 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.5 sec
Top Speed: 225 mph

"The HKS Altezza"

Curb Weight: 2155 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Inline-4
Displacement: 2000 cc
Horsepower: 564 bhp @ 8000 rpm
Torque: 446 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph

"The Jaguar XJR-9LM"

Curb Weight: 1942 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 7000 cc
Horsepower: 691 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 590 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm

"The Jaguar XJR-15"

Price: $821,000
Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 5993 cc
Horsepower: 450 bhp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft @ 4500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.1 sec
Top Speed: 185 mph

"The Jaguar XJ220S TWR"

Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo V6
Displacement: 3498 cc
Horsepower: 680 bhp @ 7200 rpm
Torque: 527 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: 229 mph

"The Lamborghini Diablo GTR"

Price: $310,000
Curb Weight: 3075 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 5992 cc
Horsepower: 590 bhp @ 7300 rpm
Torque: 472 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 8.4 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 125 mph
Skidpad: 1.00g
Top Speed: 210 mph

"The Lotus GT1"

Price: $645,000
Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3506 cc
Horsepower: 350 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 295 lb-ft @ 4250 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.8 sec
Top Speed: 199 mph

"The Maserati MCC"

Curb Weight: 2425 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V12
Displacement: 5998 cc
Horsepower: 624 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 481 lb-ft @ 5500 rpm
Redline: 7700 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.7 sec
Top Speed: 205 mph

"The Mazda 787B"

Curb Weight: 1831 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Wankel Rotary (4)
Displacement: 2622 cc
Horsepower: 700 bhp @ 9000 rpm
Torque: 620 lb-ft @ 6500 rpm

"The McLaren F1 GT"

Curb Weight: 2690 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 6064 cc
Horsepower: 627 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 480 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
Redline: 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
0-100 mph: 7.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 125 mph
Skidpad: .86g
Top Speed: 225 mph

"The Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR"

Price: $1,000,000+
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 5987 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 3700 rpm
Redline: 7800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.4 sec
0-100 mph: 5.7 sec
Quarter Mile: 10.8 sec @ 133 mph
Skidpad: 1.00g
Top Speed: 191 mph

"The Morgan Aero 8 GT"

Price: $298,800
Curb Weight: 2218 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: BMW V8
Displacement: 4398 cc
Horsepower: 500 bhp @ 6900 rpm
Torque: 420 lb-ft @ 6300 rpm

"The Mosler MT900S Photon" (not really a race car, but it's close"

Price: $209,000
Miles Per Gallon: 17/27 mpg
Curb Weight: 2144 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: LS6 V8
Displacement: 5665 cc
Horsepower: 435 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 400 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.1 sec
0-100 mph: 7.1 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.02 sec @ 126.88 mph
Skidpad: 1.02g
Top Speed: 165 mph (aerodynamically limited)

"The MotoRex Blackbird"

Price: $115,000
Layout: Front-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Turbocharged Inline-6
Displacement: 2600 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 7500 rpm
Torque: 440 lb-ft @ 5600 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 8.9 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.2 sec @ 128 mph
Skidpad: .95g
Top Speed: 198 mph

"The Nissan R390 GT1"

Price: $1,000,000
Curb Weight: 2420 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3495 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque: 470 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 9.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.9 sec @ 122 mph
Skidpad: .98g

"The Noble M400"

Price: $109,000
Curb Weight: 2330 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo V6
Displacement: 2968 cc
Horsepower: 425 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 390 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 7200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 8.0 sec
Top Speed: 186 mph

"The Orca Engineering C113"

Price: $280,000
Curb Weight: 1874 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: Turbocharged Volvo Inline-5
Displacement: 2300 cc
Horsepower: 375 bhp @ 5400 rpm
Torque: 399 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
Top Speed: 205 mph

"The Pagani Zonda GR"

Curb Weight: 2420 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: V12
Displacement: 5987 cc
Horsepower: 600+ bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 3500-5500 rpm

"The Porsche 911 GT3 RS"

Curb Weight: 2442 lbs
Layout: Rear-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Flat-6
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 420 bhp @ 8200 rpm
Torque: 289 lb-ft @ 7000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm

"The Porsche 911 GT1"

Price: $912,000
Curb Weight: 2756 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3164 cc
Horsepower: 544 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 443 lb-ft @ 4750 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 8.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.6 sec @ 123 mph
Skidpad: .99g
Top Speed: 206 mph

"The Saleen S7R"

Curb Weight: 2535 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 7000 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 550 lb-ft @ 5400 rpm
Redline: 7000 rpm
Top Speed: 200+ mph

"The Schuppan 962CR"

Price: $2,500,000
Curb Weight: 2315 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Automatic
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement: 3294 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 6800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.0 sec
Top Speed: 216 mph

"The Spyker C8 Double 12"

Curb Weight: 2425 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 3999 cc
Horsepower: 620 bhp
Redline: 9000 rpm
0-60 mph: 4.0 sec
0-100 mph: 9.5 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.8 sec @ 121 mph
Skidpad: 1.00g
Top Speed: 205 mph

"The Stealth B6"

Price: $130,000
Curb Weight: 2100 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6276 cc
Horsepower: 511 bhp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 6.3 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.0 sec @ 127 mph
Skidpad: .97g
Top Speed: 180 mph

"The Tommy Kaira ZZII"

Curb Weight: est 1500 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/AWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Twin-Turbo Inline-6
Displacement: 2568 cc
Horsepower: 550 bhp
0-60 mph: 3.3 sec
Top Speed: 210 mph

"The Toyota GT1"

Curb Weight: 1984 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Sequential
Type: Twin-Turbo V8
Displacement: 3600 cc
Horsepower: 600 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 479 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm

"The TVR Speed 12"

Price: $245,000
Curb Weight: 2205 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 7730 cc
Horsepower: 800 bhp @ 7250 rpm
Torque: 650 lb-ft @ 5750 rpm
Redline: 8000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.3 sec
Top Speed: est 240 mph

"The TVR Sagaris"

Price: Approx. $116,000
Curb Weight: 2420 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: Inline-6
Displacement: 3996 cc
Horsepower: 400 bhp
Torque: 310 lb-ft
Redline: 7500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec

"The Ultima GTR"

Price: $66,000
Curb Weight: 2183 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V8
Displacement: 6300 cc
Horsepower: 534 bhp @ 5800 rpm
Torque: 528 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.9 sec
0-100 mph: 8.2 sec
Quarter Mile: 11.9 sec @ 124 mph
Skidpad: 1.02g
Top Speed: 204 mph

"The Yamaha OX99-1"

Price: $805,000
Curb Weight: 2535 lbs
Layout: Mid-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Type: V12
Displacement: 3498 cc
Horsepower: 400 bhp @ 10000 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.2 sec
Top Speed: 217 mph


And thats it sports fans. Take your time choosing. I dont feel like posting pics, so if you need one, just ask.

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Old Sep 23, 2004, 10:21 PM   #2
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Ok, I would like to applaud Mopar68 for doing the impossible, a 43 car comparo. Car magazines don't even undertake this massive type of test.

I will post what I think Mopar would like as an "example" response.

I would go to my local race shops, and knowing that such a prestigious race would undoubtedly have foreign racers. I being an American would be compelled to represent America with an American built car...
This leaves me with a few options...

1-The Saleen S7R
2-The Mosler MT900S Photon
3-The Dodge Viper competition coupe
4-The Chevrolet C5R
5-The Callaway Corvette LM
6-The Cadillac CTS-V racecar
7-The Cadillac LMP02

Considering my age and need for something reliably quick, I can further narrow it down using LeMans and Sebring as a guide. Especially since in America 3000miles is more than 24 hours.

Leaving me only 4, S7R, MT900S Photon, C5R, and Cadillac LMP02...
The LMP02 is "outdated", and knowing of the competition I would face, and possible weather, I would go for a closed top more competitive one...

Although the Mosler does have the ability to change top speed via it's wings, it can't change gearing in the middle of a race. As such, it is out because the engine, though powerful, would not likely be able to keep up with the more powerful, Euro and Asian
engines...

Finally, down to the last two, the Saleen S7R, and the Corvette C5R, now both have comparable performance and reliability. The only difference is that the C5R has a much longer history of LeMans victories than the Saleen. On top of that the reliability of some Saleen engines is simply due to the lack of a racing budget compared to Chevrolets coffers.

Therefore, my final choice to take across the heart of America is in my very humble opinion, the best of everything an endurance race car would need. And it has the proof in the trophies of LeMans to back that up in reality.
My choice to speed across America?? The American sports car turned race car:

The Chevrolet Corvette C5R :

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Wow.. You are a god of posting Mopar! I must say this is one of the best posts I have seen.. I will spam this to keep it alive if I have to.. (J/K).

The thing that really influenced my decision was that, A) Do I really need a low 0-60 time? All of the are well below 4 seconds, and how many times to I need to peel out of a stoplight or gas station? How often am I going to hit 250mph? Not very often. I would rather buy a car that has all the performance that I want, all of the handling I want, all of the comfort I want, but wont cost me a pretty penny.

I have two cars in mind. One is the Dahlback Golf. The $275,000 price tag is a bit much, but I think I can afford it. Im interested in what its capable of. What can this beastly twin turbocharged 5 cylinder 900hp pump out? Now I ask myself, do I want to risk it all and gamble my chance at a 20 million dollar jet, or do I want to find a car that will insure a victory? So I decide to X out the Golf. There is only one car left. It is extremely well balanced, and very well priced. It pulls 0-60 in well under 4 seconds, has a top speed in excess of 190mph, and pulls an unheard of 1.15gs on the skidpad. Handling is one of the most important aspects of a distance race car, especially if I am going to be doing 100+mph on country roads. This car has one many races in the past, so I will be insured impressive performance. It has ruled the American streets since its debut in 1994. It is nearly a 1/10th of the price of an Audi R8. If you still cant find out what it is Im talking about here it is....




The Viper Competition Coupe.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dark_hunter
I'm going insane.
Neither can I.. well sorta...

The Dahlback Racing Golf RSi
The HKS Altezza
The Mazda 787B
The Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR (OMG DROOLS......................)
The MotoRex Blackbird (I'm show there's better ones...)
The Porsche 911 GT1 (*DROOLS*)
The Saleen S7R
The Tommy Kaira ZZII
The Toyota GT1
Viper Competition Coupe
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GW Mopar 8)
I can tell you have put some effort into the selection.

Too bad I have no idea what some of the cars you posted.

You wanted Justification of my choice...so here it is
For those who cant be arsed reading below the line, i Choose the Porsche GT1 or the R390
________________________________________ _______________________________
From what i looked at, and have an idea what it is. If the rally is high up in the country
where the air is thinner, I'll go for the R390 GT1 with a twin turbo V8. The reason being forced induction will have an edge over NA in this senario (eg, Pikes Peak).Another
reason is I've got a petrol powered 1/8 R/C replica.
Another chocie would be the Porsche GT1
The justification for this is becasue i've seen in on the road.
I choose these two cars becasue they participated in Leman. As they can surivie 24hrs
of continuous thrashing, i'm sure it'll survive any country rally it faces.


If its not that kind of rally, I'll choose a Large capacity NA car becasue NA cars put less
pressure on the engine, therefore a greater possibilty of finishing with the car intact and
drive home instead of hitching a ride. I'm deciding between the Dodge Viper competition
coupe, The ferrari 575 GTC, M3 GTR and the Lamborghini Diablo GTR

I'll post if i have a definite answer.
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Speed 12.
A. ITS A ROAD CAR (just)
B. Some of the others are gonna be a world of f**king touchyness not built for cruising and although niether is the TVR is the closest thing to
C. Its fu*king fast, some of the others would be better for the job, but 7 liter V12 guys. Power is what it will come down to with this much difference cause seriously mopar, you just named a whole lotta race with about mil price difference.
I'd maaaaayyyyybe take an Ultima Can-Am but you didnt put it up mopar :wink:
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Great Topic Mopar OMG 43 cars
I cant decide on just 1 at the moment
It's between these:

Chevrolet C5R
Dodge Viper competition coupe
ferrari 575 GTC
Lamborghini Diablo GTR
Mazda 787B
Mercedes Benz CLK-GTR
Nissan R390 GT1
Porsche 911 GT3 RS
Toyota GT1
HKS Altezza

I'll post my decicion later
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I have to go American. And I love Mopars would have to represent them so I'd go with the Viper Competition Coupe. All the money saved by buying it could towards gas and any repairs needed. It has some nice performance numbers and good gas milage compared to some of the others. Alo, I've always wanted a Viper.
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hmm, what happened to me and Ghalos's old posts? Oh well, i'll just retype what i said:

I need to make this topic more detailed and to the point. This just look like i put a bunch of cars together. Right now it's all just kind of random, so let me straighten things out.

The US government has just finished a brand new, state of the art ultra highway that borders the edge of the US. To debut it, they decided to have an enormous and ultra exlusive race the whole length of the highway. You start off in the tip of Maine and head off traveling south towards NYC. From there you turn west and head pretty much straight all the way to seattle washington. From there you head south agian to Los angles and then east through texas to florida. From there you follw up the coast all the way back top the top of maine. I'm estimating a 10,000 mile trip. The rules and guidelines are simple.

Rules

1. The driver must drive by himself without the aid of electronic or human navigation. All the contestants will have is a map issued to them at the start.

2. The Driver must where a inspected and approved race helmet when the car is in motion. No exceptions. Driving suits and such are not required, but strongly recommended.

3. Drivers are not allowed to sleep in fixed housing. Their shelter is whatever they carry with them in the car.

4. Music is the only distraction allowed while driving. Cellphones and visual distractions are prohibited. Any driver who breaks this rule will be out of the race, no exceptions.

5. There are no communications devices. All drivers will be issued an emergancy cell phone which they must use in emergancies only. If they are used for any use other than an emergancy, the driver will have a 5 hour time penalty.

6. All supplies for the day must be carried by the driver in the car. The next days supplies will be issued the night before. Open top LM racers must find a way to carry these supplies or else they will not be able to compete.

Guidlines

There is a pit stop every 100-400 miles, depending on terrain. Each car will be refueled and will have a fresh pair of tires at every one of these pit stops. All other maintinence that any car needs will be performed at these stops. Medical units are standing by at everyone of these stops. Helicopter units are also on hand. This event is not time limited. Whomever finishes first wins.

So, it's a tough choice. You have the ultra fast, ultra nimble LM cars like the R8 or LMP02. the problem is you need to carry the supplies (food, tent, water, etc.) and lots of fuel. You need something with a strong engine cause you only get one engine during the whole race. You need power and torque to get up through the mountians, but good aerodynamics and stability at high speeds. You must make a sacrifice: comfort or high speed? Remember to give this plenty of thought. This is not only a test of driver and car endurance, but a test to see if the driver can keep his sanity during this 10k mile trip. Choose your racer annnnnnd what your supplies would be. TAKE YOUR TIME!!!!

(P.S. i apologize to the people who choose already)
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Yeah, I don't know what happened, buuuuuut...

What I'd do is take my C5R and put road worthy tires, specially made of course, and make sure they gave a liiiittle more comfort. I'd give the suspension more travel and have a button that simply said, "RACE" and it'd reset the suspension back to fully race prep. I would also include where the passenger seat would be, a cooler/microwave combo so I could keep beverages and food in there. Behind the seats would be a full army-esque tent with sleeping supplies and showering supplies. I'll find a waterfall, haahaha...
I'd have my racing seat re padded with alot more cushioning so it'd be bearable, and FINALLY, an iPod integrated into my helmet with integrated headphones...Lots of beats, lots of eats, gorgeous scenery all at 190 mph + in a Corvette C5R...I don't CARE if I win, that's the ULTIMATE ROADTRIP! :P

Food list: Microwavable foods...10,000 miles in a race car, hmmmm...I'll add vomit bags later.
1-Twizzlers, easy to eat without hands.
2-Hungry Man dinners for the nights
3-Those 12 packs of little cereals for the morning with milk of course.
4-And of course no racer would compete without a steady supply of iced coffee, preferably of the "Jamaican Me Crazy" bean. Or just some Iced mocha's...
5-FINALLY! A big amount of water and sandwhiches...god I'm going to be fat after this race...
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Okay i have decided....
Mazda 787B
I chose this car because it has good power and torque, also it has an aerodynamic body

I would have a storage compartment built at the front of the car to store food
Like ghalos, i would have an iPod built into my helmet
As for sleeping i would get a reclining bucket seat installed and sleep in the car (if its allowed, if not i would just bring a little tent and sleep in that)
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my post got deleted aswell along with a topic i started last night. weird. oh well.

i chose the audi r8 because it has the fastest specs thats i noticed (maybe im wrong cause i didnt memorize all of them yet ok.) even if i fell behind i could get ahead with that thing.
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