Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT-10

carguy1551987 · Jan 23, 2009, 11:45 PM

Unnatural selection: With 600 horsepower (and then some), these supercars are at the pinnacle of the automotive food chain. Just like dinosaurs, they may be doomed.

It’s easy to diss old-fashioned people as dinosaurs, with their plodding resistance to change, but think about this: Those lumbering, small-brained behemoths ruled the earth for 165 million years, which is a lot longer than Homo sapiens have been in charge of messing up the planet.

Although Diplodocus had similar brain power to bankers who thought asset-backed securities were a sure thing, you’ve still got to be impressed with this 90-foot-long, 20-ton beast that perambulated the third planet from the sun all those years ago.

Like dinosaurs, the 600-horsepower beasts gathered here could soon become extinct, but they are also highly impressive. Machines that weigh as much as two tons and sport massive 12-cylinder engines aren’t exactly in tune with the zeitgeist, which is increasingly angst-ridden over global warming, dependence on foreign oil, and the greening of energy. Performance cars may soon become more fuel efficient—lighter and more compact, with smaller engines. No doubt they’ll be great to drive, but they won’t be as dramatic as a Dodge Viper or a Lamborghini Murciélago in full flight.

The Viper is pretty familiar now. The current-generation roadster went on sale in 2003, with the coupe following as a 2006 model. In 2008, it got a 600-hp, 8.4-liter V-10 with trick variable valve timing to replace the 510-hp, 8.3-liter unit. Dodge also revised the suspension and fitted a GKN torque-sensing differential, which made the car more stable and forgiving.

The Murciélago has been around for a while, too, debuting in 2001. Tracing its lineage back to the Countach of 1974, the car was revised in 2007 as the LP640, featuring a 6.5-liter V-12 making 632 horsepower, an increase of 60 over the previous 6.2-liter engine’s output. Lamborghini also added carbon-ceramic brakes, tidied up the interior, and tweaked the suspension.

The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 went on sale at the end of 2008 as a 2009 model. It is the fastest and most expensive Corvette ever, makes extensive use of carbon-fiber components, has carbon-ceramic brakes, and is motivated by the most powerful small-block Chevy ever—a supercharged 6.2-liter, LS9 V-8 engine that produces 638 horsepower.

The ZR1 isn’t the most powerful car of this pack, though. That distinction goes to the 2010 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series. This is a massively reworked SL65 with carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic bodywork for the front fenders, the hood, the trunk, and the fixed coupe roof (which replaces the SL’s usual folding hardtop). The 6.0-liter, twin-turbo V-12 is the same as the SL65’s except that larger turbochargers, a modified intake, and redesigned mufflers boost power from 604 horses to a bodacious 661. Drivetrain components have been beefed up, along with the braking system, which sports 15.4-inch front rotors and 14.2-inch discs at the back. An adjustable coil-over suspension replaces the coil springs and the automatic, hydraulic self-leveling springs on the other SL variants. Beautiful, forged aluminum wheels carry 265/35R-19 Dunlop tires up front, with 325/30R-20s in back.

At the end of our time with the four cars, when we were filling their tanks with premium—ironic, so-called dinosaurs being fueled by the remains of the real thing—a youngish guy came bounding over, eyes bulging in disbelief. He exclaimed in a whispery voice: “I feel like I’m surrounded by women—they’re all so beautiful.” Indeed. Enthusiasts will look back at the first decade of the 21st century as a golden age. We may never see cars like this again.

Vital Statistics:

ZR-1
$116,520
3340 lbs
52/48 Weight Distribution
supercharged pushrod
16-valve V-8 376 cu in (6162cc)
Front Engine-Rear Drive
638 bhp @ 6500 rpm
604 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
Redline: 6500 rpm
Lb/bhp: 5.2
6 Speed Manual
0-30 mph: 1.8 sec
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 7.8 sec
0-120 mph: 10.4 sec
0-140 mph: 14.0 sec
1320 ft, 11.7 sec @ 127 mph
Street Start, 5-60 mph, 3.9 sec
Top Gear
30-50 mph, 6.3 sec
50-70 mph, 5.3 sec
70mph-0: 141 feet
1.07 g
Top Speed: 205 mph (drag limited)

SRT-10
$98,060
3420 lbs
50/50 Weight Distribution
pushrod 20-valve
V-10 512 cu in (8382cc)
Front Engine-Rear Drive
600 bhp @ 6100 rpm
560 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline: 6250 rpm
Lb/bhp: 5.7
6 Speed Manual
0-30 mph: 1.8 sec
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 7.8 sec
0-120 mph: 10.4 sec
0-140 mph: 14.2 sec
1320 ft, 11.8 sec @ 128 mph
Street Start, 5-60 mph, 3.7 sec
Top Gear
30-50 mph, 10.5 sec
50-70 mph, 9.8 sec
70mph-0: 162 feet
1.02 g
Top Speed: 202 mph (drag limited)

LP640
$440,460
4060 lbs
42/58 Weight Distribution
DOHC 48-valve
V-12 396 cu in (6496cc)
Mid Engine-All Wheel Drive
632 bhp @ 8000 rpm
487 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm
Redline: 8500 rpm
Lb/bhp: 6.4
6 Speed E-Gear
0-30 mph: 1.4 sec
0-60 mph: 3.2 sec
0-100 mph: 7.5 sec
0-120 mph: 10.1 sec
0-140 mph: 14.0 sec
1320 ft, 11.5 sec @ 127 mph
Street Start, 5-60 mph, 4.0 sec
Top Gear
30-50 mph, 4.3 sec
50-70 mph, 5.2 sec
70mph-0: 166 feet
1.00 g
Top Speed: 211 mph (drag limited)

SL65 BS
$304,350
4220 lbs
52/48 Weight Distribution
twin-turbocharged SOHC
36-valve V-12 365 cu in (5980cc)
Front Engine-Rear Drive
661 bhp @ 5400 rpm
738 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm
Redline: 6200 rpm
Lb/bhp: 6.4
5 Speed Automatic
0-30 mph: 1.6 sec
0-60 mph: 3.6 sec
0-100 mph: 7.6 sec
0-120 mph: 10.5 sec
0-140 mph: 15.0 sec
1320 ft, 11.7 sec @ 126 mph
Street Start, 5-60 mph, 4.0 sec
Top Gear
30-50 mph, 2.0 sec
50-70 mph, 1.9 sec
70mph-0: 152 feet
0.93 g
Top Speed: 199 mph (governor limited)

First: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
Second: Lamborghini Murciélago LP640
Third: Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series
Fourth: Dodge Viper SRT10

Full Article: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT10

VTEC_Dreams · Jan 24, 2009, 12:05 AM

Okay, so it's eye-wateringly expensive, sort of silly looking, and it definitely gets it's ass handed to it by the ZR-1 and Viper in just about every regard. I don't care, people. The Merc gets my thumbs-up vote.

I like everything about those redonkulous Merc SL AMG's (except the weight...whatever, though), and the Black Series is SL-AMG cranked up to 11. My (admittedly silly) principles of low weight and small displacement go out the window when I see an SL, and I can't think of any other car that does that to me. Definitely not any Ferrari's, and definitely not the other three cars in this comparison, which are more or less the creme of the crop in this price range. So, I get all dumb over the SL. So what? Isn't that what exotic cars (is the SL an exotic? Huh?) are all about?

It's just cool to the maximum. End of for this guy.

Attaus · Jan 24, 2009, 12:05 AM

Ok.. now THIS is the hardest comparison I've looked at. Sure, you'll get crap for being similar to others, but I like it.

I would happily own any of these cars. VERY happily own.

I'll break it down into categories, because I couldn't possibly just pick one.

Corvette ZR1 - Best performer, great looks for a Vette, will only appreciate in value.
LP640 - Best interior, GREAT looking car. I've always loved the Murcielago, and hated the Gallardo. The Murc just looks tough in an exotic sort of way.
SL65 AMG - Best looking AMG I've seen. The interior doesn't impress too much, but still handsome.
SRT10 - The fact that it's a Viper. It's an icon in itself. If you're looking for balls to the wall performance, a loud rumbling V10, and clean lines, then look no further.

The one I'd be most wanting to drive would be the Lambo. I plan on owning a Corvette/Viper or two, and will have plenty of chance to drive them. The Murc is unfamiliar to me, but has really won me over recently.

Most likely to own would be, like I said, the Viper or the Vette. The SL65 would be a fun rental, though.

texlonghorn · Jan 24, 2009, 12:15 AM

So where is Marshall to come and ask why the Viper got last place? :P

I honestly have to say that being the Vette whore that I am, that would be the one I took first. But the SL65 AMG Black Series is reallllly close. Alas, having actually driven a Corvette (and having yet to drive a Merc) it will be the one I stick with.

VTEC_Dreams · Jan 24, 2009, 12:18 AM

I liked 'Vette's a lot more than I did until I drove one.

True story.

texlonghorn · Jan 24, 2009, 12:23 AM

Well I have to say, the one I drove wasn't stock, at all. And I could easily have driven a Merc by now (my godfather has an SL500, before that an RS6, and wants an R8 when the lease is up). I just haven't asked yet...

MarshallTK · Jan 24, 2009, 12:45 AM

Waaaaaaaaat!!!! Waaaaaaaaat Last ****ing Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!! Omg!!!!!!! Duuude!!!! Waaaat!!!! Thats A Lie!!!! They Cant Drive The Viper Omg!!!! Give It To Me!!!!

Why Did It Get Last Place?!?!?!?! Performance Wise?!?!?!? Wtf!?!?!?!? Can Someone Explain Too Me Before I Berserk!!!!!

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texlonghorn · Jan 24, 2009, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MarshallTK

Waaaaaaaaat!!!! Waaaaaaaaat Last ****ing Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!! Omg!!!!!!! Duuude!!!! Waaaat!!!! Thats A Lie!!!! They Cant Drive The Viper Omg!!!! Give It To Me!!!!

Why Did It Get Last Place?!?!?!?! Performance Wise?!?!?!? Wtf!?!?!?!? Can Someone Explain Too Me Before I Berserk!!!!!

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I so called it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by texlonghorn

So where is Marshall to come and ask why the Viper got last place? :P

carguy1551987 · Jan 24, 2009, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarshallTK

Why Did It Get Last Place?!?!?!?! Performance Wise?!?!?!? Wtf!?!?!?!? Can Someone Explain Too Me Before I Berserk!!!!!(

Quote:

The Viper is a bit crude and rough around the edges, but it’s still an appealing car. It also has the lowest price. Unfortunately, the three other machines are simply better all around.

That's apparently why.

MarshallTK · Jan 24, 2009, 12:53 AM

Ya i read that wtf?

Better all around in what sense? It just said it rockets to 60 nose to nose with them?

In street wise OK ill give it to them, but how about on the track?!

Isnt it kinda wierd the viper and ZR1 are the same?!!??!! OMG HOLY CRAP! :P

carguy1551987 · Jan 24, 2009, 1:00 AM

Well I get a feeling that the LP won the test

but because of it's ridiculous price it's best to pick the car that can do best all that for a much lower price.

So between the ZR and SRT the ZR wins by default.

imo · Jan 24, 2009, 1:06 AM

In terms of overall bang for your buck, its hard to compete with the 'Vette or the Viper.

However, as I don't have the money to purchase any of these 4 beasts, I will cream myself over the Lamborghini.

It looks pretty good [imo], has a glorious exhaust note and where I come from, it is as exclusive as a female virgin.

So Murcielago it is...

MarshallTK · Jan 24, 2009, 1:07 AM

Yea, can u tell me whey its 30-50 in 10.5 seconds for the viper? I dont get why it takes that long wtf?

The LP is stock tho...and so fast why?

I think Viper won for price and best performance... i mean differences are by .2 .3 i mean come on.

carguy1551987 · Jan 24, 2009, 1:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarshallTK

Yea, can u tell me whey its 30-50 in 10.5 seconds for the viper? I dont get why it takes that long wtf?

The LP is stock tho...and so fast why?

I think Viper won for price and best performance... i mean differences are by .2 .3 i mean come on.

Quote:

Of the four cars, it got the best gas mileage overall, 13 mpg. The Viper also has the best EPA ranking for highway mileage, 22 mpg, mainly because its fifth and sixth gears are as tall as Yao Ming.

LOL the LP is not much faster 0.2 sec quarter mile difference is absolutely nothing and it can be the other way around if tried again.

Big difference and tuning options will give you at least in the 10's if not 9's for these type of cars.

MarshallTK · Jan 24, 2009, 1:49 AM

So basically they are really close to even? Just what you like? But you gotta admit vipers better on track!

Jan 23, 2009, 11:45 PM	#1
carguy1551987 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 719	Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT-10 Unnatural selection: With 600 horsepower (and then some), these supercars are at the pinnacle of the automotive food chain. Just like dinosaurs, they may be doomed. It’s easy to diss old-fashioned people as dinosaurs, with their plodding resistance to change, but think about this: Those lumbering, small-brained behemoths ruled the earth for 165 million years, which is a lot longer than Homo sapiens have been in charge of messing up the planet. Although Diplodocus had similar brain power to bankers who thought asset-backed securities were a sure thing, you’ve still got to be impressed with this 90-foot-long, 20-ton beast that perambulated the third planet from the sun all those years ago. Like dinosaurs, the 600-horsepower beasts gathered here could soon become extinct, but they are also highly impressive. Machines that weigh as much as two tons and sport massive 12-cylinder engines aren’t exactly in tune with the zeitgeist, which is increasingly angst-ridden over global warming, dependence on foreign oil, and the greening of energy. Performance cars may soon become more fuel efficient—lighter and more compact, with smaller engines. No doubt they’ll be great to drive, but they won’t be as dramatic as a Dodge Viper or a Lamborghini Murciélago in full flight. The Viper is pretty familiar now. The current-generation roadster went on sale in 2003, with the coupe following as a 2006 model. In 2008, it got a 600-hp, 8.4-liter V-10 with trick variable valve timing to replace the 510-hp, 8.3-liter unit. Dodge also revised the suspension and fitted a GKN torque-sensing differential, which made the car more stable and forgiving. The Murciélago has been around for a while, too, debuting in 2001. Tracing its lineage back to the Countach of 1974, the car was revised in 2007 as the LP640, featuring a 6.5-liter V-12 making 632 horsepower, an increase of 60 over the previous 6.2-liter engine’s output. Lamborghini also added carbon-ceramic brakes, tidied up the interior, and tweaked the suspension. The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 went on sale at the end of 2008 as a 2009 model. It is the fastest and most expensive Corvette ever, makes extensive use of carbon-fiber components, has carbon-ceramic brakes, and is motivated by the most powerful small-block Chevy ever—a supercharged 6.2-liter, LS9 V-8 engine that produces 638 horsepower. The ZR1 isn’t the most powerful car of this pack, though. That distinction goes to the 2010 Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series. This is a massively reworked SL65 with carbon-fiber-reinforced plastic bodywork for the front fenders, the hood, the trunk, and the fixed coupe roof (which replaces the SL’s usual folding hardtop). The 6.0-liter, twin-turbo V-12 is the same as the SL65’s except that larger turbochargers, a modified intake, and redesigned mufflers boost power from 604 horses to a bodacious 661. Drivetrain components have been beefed up, along with the braking system, which sports 15.4-inch front rotors and 14.2-inch discs at the back. An adjustable coil-over suspension replaces the coil springs and the automatic, hydraulic self-leveling springs on the other SL variants. Beautiful, forged aluminum wheels carry 265/35R-19 Dunlop tires up front, with 325/30R-20s in back. At the end of our time with the four cars, when we were filling their tanks with premium—ironic, so-called dinosaurs being fueled by the remains of the real thing—a youngish guy came bounding over, eyes bulging in disbelief. He exclaimed in a whispery voice: “I feel like I’m surrounded by women—they’re all so beautiful.” Indeed. Enthusiasts will look back at the first decade of the 21st century as a golden age. We may never see cars like this again. Vital Statistics: ZR-1 $116,520 3340 lbs 52/48 Weight Distribution supercharged pushrod 16-valve V-8 376 cu in (6162cc) Front Engine-Rear Drive 638 bhp @ 6500 rpm 604 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm Redline: 6500 rpm Lb/bhp: 5.2 6 Speed Manual 0-30 mph: 1.8 sec 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec 0-100 mph: 7.8 sec 0-120 mph: 10.4 sec 0-140 mph: 14.0 sec 1320 ft, 11.7 sec @ 127 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 3.9 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 6.3 sec 50-70 mph, 5.3 sec 70mph-0: 141 feet 1.07 g Top Speed: 205 mph (drag limited) SRT-10 $98,060 3420 lbs 50/50 Weight Distribution pushrod 20-valve V-10 512 cu in (8382cc) Front Engine-Rear Drive 600 bhp @ 6100 rpm 560 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm Redline: 6250 rpm Lb/bhp: 5.7 6 Speed Manual 0-30 mph: 1.8 sec 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec 0-100 mph: 7.8 sec 0-120 mph: 10.4 sec 0-140 mph: 14.2 sec 1320 ft, 11.8 sec @ 128 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 3.7 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 10.5 sec 50-70 mph, 9.8 sec 70mph-0: 162 feet 1.02 g Top Speed: 202 mph (drag limited) LP640 $440,460 4060 lbs 42/58 Weight Distribution DOHC 48-valve V-12 396 cu in (6496cc) Mid Engine-All Wheel Drive 632 bhp @ 8000 rpm 487 lb-ft @ 6000 rpm Redline: 8500 rpm Lb/bhp: 6.4 6 Speed E-Gear 0-30 mph: 1.4 sec 0-60 mph: 3.2 sec 0-100 mph: 7.5 sec 0-120 mph: 10.1 sec 0-140 mph: 14.0 sec 1320 ft, 11.5 sec @ 127 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 4.0 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 4.3 sec 50-70 mph, 5.2 sec 70mph-0: 166 feet 1.00 g Top Speed: 211 mph (drag limited) SL65 BS $304,350 4220 lbs 52/48 Weight Distribution twin-turbocharged SOHC 36-valve V-12 365 cu in (5980cc) Front Engine-Rear Drive 661 bhp @ 5400 rpm 738 lb-ft @ 2200 rpm Redline: 6200 rpm Lb/bhp: 6.4 5 Speed Automatic 0-30 mph: 1.6 sec 0-60 mph: 3.6 sec 0-100 mph: 7.6 sec 0-120 mph: 10.5 sec 0-140 mph: 15.0 sec 1320 ft, 11.7 sec @ 126 mph Street Start, 5-60 mph, 4.0 sec Top Gear 30-50 mph, 2.0 sec 50-70 mph, 1.9 sec 70mph-0: 152 feet 0.93 g Top Speed: 199 mph (governor limited) First: Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Second: Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 Third: Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series Fourth: Dodge Viper SRT10 Full Article: Car and Driver: Corvette ZR1 vs. SL65 AMG Black Series, Murciélago LP640, Viper SRT10 Last edited by carguy1551987 : Jan 24, 2009 at 3:38 AM.

Jan 24, 2009, 12:05 AM	#2
VTEC_Dreams Slow car enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 12,774	Okay, so it's eye-wateringly expensive, sort of silly looking, and it definitely gets it's ass handed to it by the ZR-1 and Viper in just about every regard. I don't care, people. The Merc gets my thumbs-up vote. I like everything about those redonkulous Merc SL AMG's (except the weight...whatever, though), and the Black Series is SL-AMG cranked up to 11. My (admittedly silly) principles of low weight and small displacement go out the window when I see an SL, and I can't think of any other car that does that to me. Definitely not any Ferrari's, and definitely not the other three cars in this comparison, which are more or less the creme of the crop in this price range. So, I get all dumb over the SL. So what? Isn't that what exotic cars (is the SL an exotic? Huh?) are all about? It's just cool to the maximum. End of for this guy. __________________ Anyhow...

Jan 24, 2009, 12:05 AM	#3
Attaus Wheelman Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The Lone Star State Ride: 2003 330Ci Posts: 10,546	Ok.. now THIS is the hardest comparison I've looked at. Sure, you'll get crap for being similar to others, but I like it. I would happily own any of these cars. VERY happily own. I'll break it down into categories, because I couldn't possibly just pick one. Corvette ZR1 - Best performer, great looks for a Vette, will only appreciate in value. LP640 - Best interior, GREAT looking car. I've always loved the Murcielago, and hated the Gallardo. The Murc just looks tough in an exotic sort of way. SL65 AMG - Best looking AMG I've seen. The interior doesn't impress too much, but still handsome. SRT10 - The fact that it's a Viper. It's an icon in itself. If you're looking for balls to the wall performance, a loud rumbling V10, and clean lines, then look no further. The one I'd be most wanting to drive would be the Lambo. I plan on owning a Corvette/Viper or two, and will have plenty of chance to drive them. The Murc is unfamiliar to me, but has really won me over recently. Most likely to own would be, like I said, the Viper or the Vette. The SL65 would be a fun rental, though. __________________ "Political discussion are like Nyquil." - Rav

Jan 24, 2009, 12:15 AM	#4
texlonghorn Wrench Monkey Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 5,980	So where is Marshall to come and ask why the Viper got last place? :P I honestly have to say that being the Vette whore that I am, that would be the one I took first. But the SL65 AMG Black Series is reallllly close. Alas, having actually driven a Corvette (and having yet to drive a Merc) it will be the one I stick with. __________________ That was Coop you namby pamby muppet namblin' aussie stinkfinger. -VTEC

Jan 24, 2009, 12:18 AM	#5
VTEC_Dreams Slow car enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 12,774	I liked 'Vette's a lot more than I did until I drove one. True story. __________________ Anyhow...

Jan 24, 2009, 12:23 AM	#6
texlonghorn Wrench Monkey Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Central Virginia Posts: 5,980	Well I have to say, the one I drove wasn't stock, at all. And I could easily have driven a Merc by now (my godfather has an SL500, before that an RS6, and wants an R8 when the lease is up). I just haven't asked yet... __________________ That was Coop you namby pamby muppet namblin' aussie stinkfinger. -VTEC

Jan 24, 2009, 12:45 AM	#7
MarshallTK Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 266	Waaaaaaaaat!!!! Waaaaaaaaat Last ****ing Place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Whaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!! Omg!!!!!!! Duuude!!!! Waaaat!!!! Thats A Lie!!!! They Cant Drive The Viper Omg!!!! Give It To Me!!!! Why Did It Get Last Place?!?!?!?! Performance Wise?!?!?!? Wtf!?!?!?!? Can Someone Explain Too Me Before I Berserk!!!!! >=( >=( >=( >=( >=( >=( >=(

Jan 24, 2009, 12:53 AM	#10
MarshallTK Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 266	Ya i read that wtf? Better all around in what sense? It just said it rockets to 60 nose to nose with them? In street wise OK ill give it to them, but how about on the track?! Isnt it kinda wierd the viper and ZR1 are the same?!!??!! OMG HOLY CRAP! :P Last edited by MarshallTK : Jan 24, 2009 at 1:01 AM.

Jan 24, 2009, 1:00 AM	#11
carguy1551987 Banned Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 719	Well I get a feeling that the LP won the test but because of it's ridiculous price it's best to pick the car that can do best all that for a much lower price. So between the ZR and SRT the ZR wins by default.

Jan 24, 2009, 1:06 AM	#12
imo Poster Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 102	In terms of overall bang for your buck, its hard to compete with the 'Vette or the Viper. However, as I don't have the money to purchase any of these 4 beasts, I will cream myself over the Lamborghini. It looks pretty good [imo], has a glorious exhaust note and where I come from, it is as exclusive as a female virgin. So Murcielago it is... __________________ "Our enemies never stop thinking about ways to harm our country … and neither do we." - GW. Bush

Jan 24, 2009, 1:07 AM	#13
MarshallTK Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 266	Yea, can u tell me whey its 30-50 in 10.5 seconds for the viper? I dont get why it takes that long wtf? The LP is stock tho...and so fast why? I think Viper won for price and best performance... i mean differences are by .2 .3 i mean come on.

Jan 24, 2009, 1:49 AM	#15
MarshallTK Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California Posts: 266	So basically they are really close to even? Just what you like? But you gotta admit vipers better on track!

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