Alfa Romeo 147 GTA vs Volkswagen Golf R32

Schumi · Aug 03, 2003, 12:07 PM

Well look at this:

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA:

Hatchback
1360 kilos
Engine:In front,6 cylinder in V,4 valves per cylinder,3179 cc,Horsepower:250/6200,Torque:30,6/4800.
Wheels:Front and rear:225/45
0-100Km/h(0-60mph):6,3'', 246Km/h.

Volkswagen Golf R32:

Hatchback
1477 kilos
Engine:In front,6 cylinder in V,4 valves per cylinder,3189 cc,Horsepower:241/6250, Torque:32,6/2800.
Wheels:Front and rear:225/40
0-100Km/h(0-60mph):6,6'', 247Km/h.

Make your opinions.That was a good compare and we can't compare them too far except if we have them in the road.

Raith83 · Aug 03, 2003, 1:41 PM

I am unfamilair with Alfa Romeo's. As far as I do know, they are excellent cars. I knwo ALOT more about VW's and have an affinity towards them. Both cars seem to be very closely matched, so what it's going to come down to is price, value, quality, fuel economy, availability, ect. Also, given similar powerplants, there needs to be a comparison of the 0-60 mph times. This will give a good idea of how good the respective transmissions are. Speaking of transmissions, the only ofther thing I'm worried about is the gear box themselves. How well they are put together and such. Any links for the Alfa car would be appreciated.

Schumi · Aug 03, 2003, 1:53 PM

I don't know if you can understand that but this is for the transmission.The gears:

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: 1st:3,5:1,2nd:2,235:1,3rd:1,52:1,4th:1,1 56:1,5th:0,971:1,6th:0,818:1.

Volkswagen Golf R32:
1st:3,46:1,2nd:1,94:1,3rd:1,37:1,4th:1,0 3:1,5th:0,85:1...no 6th...

I don't if you can understand anything of that but I don't...That's something for the gears.I think how long they are...

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA · Aug 03, 2003, 2:17 PM

Ofcourse i defenitly choose for the Alfa Romeo!!

I like the beautiful design of the Alfa!! Looks great
I think the R32 does not look much more than quite normal.. except a few things.

The Alfa is faster!! and Topgear said that quality of a 156 GTA was even so good than a BMW 330CI!
So i think the Quality of the VW won't be much better than the Alfa Romeo..

Than the intrieur, WoW what a diffrence i Really DON"T like thatboring VW intriour ,
Well Alfa's Intriour is really BEAUTIFUL designed!! looks Great and nice sporty!

The Alfa has only 1 - point and that's he have's FWD

,

Greetz : Danny!

Raith83 · Aug 03, 2003, 2:24 PM

Hmm, okay, thats good. I was wondering which engine/drive setup the Alfa had. I Though the VW had a 6th gear?! Ah well, I could be just stupid today. Anyway, I think the R32 would lend itself better for tuning (at least in the US, I know there's a ZILLION VW parts available) and :P the Alfa is definitly not coming to the States. What sort of tuning pats are avaible elsehwere for it? I wouldn't know . It also has the AWD which would give it better handling ect and you could safely give more power without insane burnouts like only two wheel drive would give. AWD means better high speed stablility too, which is always a plus. That aside though, I still don't know what the other car looks like, exterior or interior, so I really can't make a judgement on that.

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA · Aug 03, 2003, 3:13 PM

This are the both intriours of those cars; Now you guys can imagine my opinion maybe better not that i must read next post again : Danny has no taste , or Danny does only love Italian cars , quite logical they are the most beautiful !!!

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA :

Volkswagen Golf R32

I think this intriour ofthat VW is to boring to simple , So really VW agian!

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA:

And this is even a WHITE 147GTa in red he's even more beautiful!!
so red GTA

Volkswagen Golf :

Well hope you all like the pictures! ,

Greetz : Danny the Alfa Romeo Freak![/img]

mallon · Aug 03, 2003, 3:55 PM

well the design of the GTA's interior is alot better, its more orginal, but the VW's is nailed together better.
So its what you prefer, looks or durability.

NiGiz · Aug 03, 2003, 5:55 PM

As I have already said, I would choose the GTA...If only the VDC could be deactivated

White-Night · Aug 03, 2003, 6:38 PM

GTA for me ......
the design is great///
i alsaw know that driving the alfa gives you the pleasure....

there was one advertisment for alfa that said....

"AUDI talks to your Mind ....Alfa talks to your Sense"

the feeling in the alfa is much better i assume ....

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA · Aug 03, 2003, 7:25 PM

'Mallon , why do you think the durability of the VW is better??

I know that's their name VW = Durability! But that = not always true!

I can show you a movie and that's a topgear magazine i thought... were someone drive's in a GTA!!

They said : Alfa turned the quality up!!
And she said : If someone asked me before today( before she drove the GTA ) : who builds the best alrounds sports saloon? i proberly said BMW , but now Is the 156 GTA here with the german quality (durability) and more action and he's looking BEAUTiFUL from every side!!! hehe in 1 word! : BEATEN!!

oh God i'm in love :mrgreen:

Oh and she said to : WELL DONE CHAMPS!!

She love the sound of the GTA

and quit danny quit they must know it now

Mallon if you wanna see that movie than speak i've got the URL!

Greetz : Danny!

White-Night · Aug 03, 2003, 7:55 PM

the problem with that car that its a FWD //
if it was a RWD... she would probably be one of the best ...

Raith83 · Aug 04, 2003, 12:55 AM

Man, if the Alfa was AWD I'd shoot myself in the head. If I was given the choice, it would be for the GTA and try to make the factory put an AWD system in there

Sadly, I'm "stuck" with only having the R32 available to me, and I don't think I really want any other car besides that and an S2000.

jimkk29 · Aug 04, 2003, 5:04 AM

I prefer the Golf, because it certainly has better handling with the AWD and because it's German.

(PS: this is my 500th post!!!!!!)

FR500 · Aug 04, 2003, 9:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raith83

Man, if the Alfa was AWD I'd shoot myself in the head. If I was given the choice, it would be for the GTA and try to make the factory put an AWD system in there

Sadly, I'm "stuck" with only having the R32 available to me, and I don't think I really want any other car besides that and an S2000.

US is not getting R32, at least that was the official statement, anyway i'd go for the Golf............but just you wait for the Cosworth 2005

Ferrari360Chic · Aug 04, 2003, 9:37 AM

alfa !

Aug 03, 2003, 12:07 PM	#1
Schumi Italian Freak Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Greece Posts: 1,933	Alfa Romeo 147 GTA vs Volkswagen Golf R32 Well look at this: Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: Hatchback 1360 kilos Engine:In front,6 cylinder in V,4 valves per cylinder,3179 cc,Horsepower:250/6200,Torque:30,6/4800. Wheels:Front and rear:225/45 0-100Km/h(0-60mph):6,3'', 246Km/h. Volkswagen Golf R32: Hatchback 1477 kilos Engine:In front,6 cylinder in V,4 valves per cylinder,3189 cc,Horsepower:241/6250, Torque:32,6/2800. Wheels:Front and rear:225/40 0-100Km/h(0-60mph):6,6'', 247Km/h. Make your opinions.That was a good compare and we can't compare them too far except if we have them in the road. __________________ Does your car have this engine? Does it have this stability on road? Does it have SOUL? ALFA 159

Aug 03, 2003, 1:41 PM	#2
Raith83 Tokyo Xtreme Racer 4 life Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toledo / Ohio / U.S.A. Posts: 1,667	I am unfamilair with Alfa Romeo's. As far as I do know, they are excellent cars. I knwo ALOT more about VW's and have an affinity towards them. Both cars seem to be very closely matched, so what it's going to come down to is price, value, quality, fuel economy, availability, ect. Also, given similar powerplants, there needs to be a comparison of the 0-60 mph times. This will give a good idea of how good the respective transmissions are. Speaking of transmissions, the only ofther thing I'm worried about is the gear box themselves. How well they are put together and such. Any links for the Alfa car would be appreciated. __________________ [color=green]"I don't break the rules, I bend them......alot"[/color]

Aug 03, 2003, 1:53 PM	#3
Schumi Italian Freak Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Greece Posts: 1,933	I don't know if you can understand that but this is for the transmission.The gears: Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: 1st:3,5:1,2nd:2,235:1,3rd:1,52:1,4th:1,1 56:1,5th:0,971:1,6th:0,818:1. Volkswagen Golf R32: 1st:3,46:1,2nd:1,94:1,3rd:1,37:1,4th:1,0 3:1,5th:0,85:1...no 6th... I don't if you can understand anything of that but I don't...That's something for the gears.I think how long they are... __________________ Does your car have this engine? Does it have this stability on road? Does it have SOUL? ALFA 159

Aug 03, 2003, 2:24 PM	#5
Raith83 Tokyo Xtreme Racer 4 life Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toledo / Ohio / U.S.A. Posts: 1,667	Hmm, okay, thats good. I was wondering which engine/drive setup the Alfa had. I Though the VW had a 6th gear?! Ah well, I could be just stupid today. Anyway, I think the R32 would lend itself better for tuning (at least in the US, I know there's a ZILLION VW parts available) and :P the Alfa is definitly not coming to the States. What sort of tuning pats are avaible elsehwere for it? I wouldn't know . It also has the AWD which would give it better handling ect and you could safely give more power without insane burnouts like only two wheel drive would give. AWD means better high speed stablility too, which is always a plus. That aside though, I still don't know what the other car looks like, exterior or interior, so I really can't make a judgement on that. __________________ [color=green]"I don't break the rules, I bend them......alot"[/color]

Aug 03, 2003, 5:55 PM	#8
NiGiz Poster Join Date: May 2003 Location: Athens, Hellas Posts: 459	As I have already said, I would choose the GTA...If only the VDC could be deactivated __________________ Cuore Sportivo!

Aug 03, 2003, 2:17 PM	#4
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 768	Ofcourse i defenitly choose for the Alfa Romeo!! I like the beautiful design of the Alfa!! Looks great I think the R32 does not look much more than quite normal.. except a few things. The Alfa is faster!! and Topgear said that quality of a 156 GTA was even so good than a BMW 330CI! So i think the Quality of the VW won't be much better than the Alfa Romeo.. Than the intrieur, WoW what a diffrence i Really DON"T like thatboring VW intriour , Well Alfa's Intriour is really BEAUTIFUL designed!! looks Great and nice sporty! The Alfa has only 1 - point and that's he have's FWD , Greetz : Danny!

Aug 03, 2003, 3:13 PM	#6
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 768	This are the both intriours of those cars; Now you guys can imagine my opinion maybe better not that i must read next post again : Danny has no taste , or Danny does only love Italian cars , quite logical they are the most beautiful !!! Alfa Romeo 147 GTA : Volkswagen Golf R32 I think this intriour ofthat VW is to boring to simple , So really VW agian! Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: And this is even a WHITE 147GTa in red he's even more beautiful!! so red GTA Volkswagen Golf : Well hope you all like the pictures! , Greetz : Danny the Alfa Romeo Freak![/img]

Aug 03, 2003, 3:55 PM	#7
mallon Enthusiast Join Date: May 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,371	well the design of the GTA's interior is alot better, its more orginal, but the VW's is nailed together better. So its what you prefer, looks or durability.

Aug 03, 2003, 6:38 PM	#9
White-Night Enthusiast Join Date: May 2003 Location: At The Steering Wheel Posts: 1,035	GTA for me ...... the design is great/// i alsaw know that driving the alfa gives you the pleasure.... there was one advertisment for alfa that said.... "AUDI talks to your Mind ....Alfa talks to your Sense" the feeling in the alfa is much better i assume .... __________________ I Don't Drive Fast ... I Fly Low

Aug 03, 2003, 7:25 PM	#10
Alfa Romeo 156 GTA Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 768	'Mallon , why do you think the durability of the VW is better?? I know that's their name VW = Durability! But that = not always true! I can show you a movie and that's a topgear magazine i thought... were someone drive's in a GTA!! They said : Alfa turned the quality up!! And she said : If someone asked me before today( before she drove the GTA ) : who builds the best alrounds sports saloon? i proberly said BMW , but now Is the 156 GTA here with the german quality (durability) and more action and he's looking BEAUTiFUL from every side!!! hehe in 1 word! : BEATEN!! oh God i'm in love :mrgreen: Oh and she said to : WELL DONE CHAMPS!! She love the sound of the GTA and quit danny quit they must know it now Mallon if you wanna see that movie than speak i've got the URL! Greetz : Danny!

Aug 03, 2003, 7:55 PM	#11
White-Night Enthusiast Join Date: May 2003 Location: At The Steering Wheel Posts: 1,035	the problem with that car that its a FWD // if it was a RWD... she would probably be one of the best ... __________________ I Don't Drive Fast ... I Fly Low

Aug 04, 2003, 12:55 AM	#12
Raith83 Tokyo Xtreme Racer 4 life Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Toledo / Ohio / U.S.A. Posts: 1,667	Man, if the Alfa was AWD I'd shoot myself in the head. If I was given the choice, it would be for the GTA and try to make the factory put an AWD system in there Sadly, I'm "stuck" with only having the R32 available to me, and I don't think I really want any other car besides that and an S2000. __________________ [color=green]"I don't break the rules, I bend them......alot"[/color]

Aug 04, 2003, 5:04 AM	#13
jimkk29 SCF Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 7,080	I prefer the Golf, because it certainly has better handling with the AWD and because it's German. (PS: this is my 500th post!!!!!!)

Aug 04, 2003, 9:37 AM	#15
Ferrari360Chic Poster Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Out In Da Country Posts: 189	alfa ! __________________ :twisted: Tha Need 4 Speed :twisted: -::-Tori-::-

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