RAizzle

I fully agree with you scg87. And who says the Z's only got Nismo? Come on now. But according to a comparo I've seen, the Nismo 350Z beats the S2K CR too. I've seen both cars in person and I must say, they're both beautiful, but I don't fit too comfortably in the S. And the Nismo Z has beautiful wheels from Rays. I've always loved Nissan's choice of wheels.

VTEC_Dreams

So, it's fast in the right hands. I happen to think that Car and Driver tests cars mostly to their extents, and if not, posts numbers that anyone could get. If the Z has crappy launch characteristics, then what do you expect?

Heres one. Can YOU make it do a 13.X second quarter mile?

If not, then the numbers are bunked like 2 stacked beds.

Fact is, even with a slushbox, you can just stomp on the accelerator, and a Mustang GT will do a high 13/low 14 second quarter mile. No questions asked.

And as far as handling goes, sure, the Z is probably better than the Mustang, but comparing a new Z and (just about) any stock Mustang on the handling front is as pointless as comparing acceleration numbers amongst sub-20K econoboxes. Honestly, neither are supremely good or suited for eating up turns.

And like I said, neither of these cars are my bag of chips, and I'd much rather have an S2000 (read:real sports car) that is infinitely more satisfying than either of these crude/cute lug nuts. But that's another conversation for another day.

And yes, I DO think you make this stuff up.

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I was searching for 350Z vs. Mustang GT track times and I got this.. the funniest sh*t ever. The GT starts winning, then.. WTF is that sound? lol

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/4...9301000f93.htm


You can throw as much power as you want at a 350Z but it won't take it as well as the Mustang. It's a factory sports car, it's not a true performance car. The capabilities of the Mustang are seemingly endless.. over 1000whp is completely possible. Over 1g on the skidpad, also possible. You can only do so much to the Z.. sorry, it's just not in the same league.

It's like comparing a Supra to a Mustang.. the Supra makes more power, but at the end of the day it only takes the Mustang 550whp to run the same time as a 800whp Supra.

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Rallim

^ Could you post up links for Mustang GT vs. 350Z times? I really want to see that.

And, SCG, the reason Heretic was(or was, whatever) attacking you is because you pretty much attacked me, you attack someone here you get attacked back.

junwoni

if you compare mod potential on both cars then it's no comparison. v8 mustang wins all, but if you compare them in stock form, I think Z wins in most catagories.
btw, there is not just one person could get into low 13's in 1/4, there are quite few Z owners did it, it could trap as high as 107mph. and i think there will be more similar numbers coming cuz it's still a new car as 07/08 car. I didn't even see any 335i owners could run 13.1 in 1/4, the best one on 335i is 13.2.

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Evo_power

A) Magazine drivers don't suck, especially the guys at Road and Track and Car and Driver. In fact some of them have managed to set some of the fastest times for cars acceleration. Most of them have race experience too, or at least the ones that do acceleration tests.

B) The Mustang really IS faster...in a straight line. Around a track through, I dunno. So it really does seem like you are making most of this stuff up.

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scg87

Yeah, well at least I have more to back up my claims than just opinion, like so many here base their claims upon.

They don't have crappy launch characteristics, it just takes skill and practice to get it down. I could launch mine just fine.

The Mustang GT launches better because it's a freaking solid rear-axle setup. It's not too hard too figure out. And although it helps it at the strip, it ultimately hinders it on the track.


Haha, that was a sweet video. I bet those guys didn't see that coming, lol.




But anyways, the GT's potential is no greater than the Z's, it's just better suited to particular things. Mainly drag racing. You can get 1,000 hp out of the Mustang. You can also do it w/ the Z. W/ either one, the engine is far from stock, and it requires a LOT of other beefed up components. But yes, the GT will ultimately always be better at straightline because of how it's engineered. The GT can be made to handle great, but ultiimately, the Z will always be better on a roadcourse because of how it's engineered. One is inherently better at one thing, the other at something different. That's not to say one is any worse than the other, or not in the same league as the other. They just have different areas of specialty. That's why they both have huge fan bases, and they both sell well.


The only way a 550hp Mustang would make the same times as an 800hp Supra, is if the Mustang had a superior setup and driver. Will a 550whp stalled, DR, suspension GT beat an 800rwhp Supra w/ on coilovers and street tires??? Of course. But there is no reason why if the Supra was running an equivalent setup, it wouldn't be faster.


But I think this debate has gone far enough. I think everyone here can agree they're both good cars, and they serve their purpose well. I believe the reason discussions about these car become so heated is because they're so competitive and so close in performance and price. As w/ anything, it comes down to what an individual wants or needs in their car. and as good as they both are, they both do some things a little better than the other.....

lambospeed

i would have to go with the 350z , i find it looks amazing and that 3.5 engine is just too sick , its lighter, more agile and interior material is wayy better compare to the ford

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scg87

I didn't attack you. I just offered a counter-statement. I thought that's what the forum was for. He overstepped his bounds. There was no reason to insult me like that.


A) Okay, the test-drivers don't suck per say, but their results often times don't show a car's true potential. But some of that is due to the fact that their test cars are worn-out in previous test, or they're not broken in yet. Both of which would have an effect on the car's performance......

B) For the last time, the Mustang is not faster in a straight-line. Not only has the Z posted a quicker 'best time', bet they usually trap a few miles an hour higher, which is the TRUE indicator as to which car is FASTER.......

junwoni

the numbers on both cars are very identical, but I know few Z owners trap their Z at 106-107mph. but I don't see any mustang owners trap at that trap speed on mustang forum.

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mikeyb

Nissan 350z ftw.

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monkeyfkker

Actually I can...

lol... yes, the note.

No, you stated something as fact. That's not opinion...

Actually, magazine drivers aren't the most reliable of test drivers. They are given little time to acclimate themselves to the car. They're good... but don't think that they're the best drivers around.

What do you have to back up your claims? A 350Z? So.... How many tracks has it been on? How many times has it been on VHT? What are your 60 foot times? 1/8 mile?

So because people on a Z forum claim that, you believe it? lol...

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C.A.R.

Wow, still pretty hot in here aye?!

I didn't post when I looked at the thread yesterday because I figured that those who said the Mustang was better may have had a chance to come to their senses.

What is the world coming to?! The Mustang is a very, very cheap car. Everyone knows that you can't get something for nothing, and you need only take one look at the Mustang to see that corners have been cut.

Firstly, Image. The 350Z wins hands down, the Mustang carries with it an "Aurora of tack", ie, it feels cheap, and it looks it.

Then, Performance. Anyone who thinks that a Mustang is going to keep up with a 350Z is kidding themselves. Hell, anyone that thinks the Mustang could negotiate a single corner at full tilt is kidding themselves.

Finally, Why would you buy either of these cars. The 350Z is a Japanese car, so reliability is next-to-none. It's classy, sophisticated image will mean it will still look modern in a few years, and more importantly, it will therefore hold its value better than the 'Stang. As for the Mustang? It looks old. It's like a car that should already have been retired, it looks tired. If you want a cool Mustang, buy a proper one. Not this glorification of its predecessors' image used to sell itself-type car. It's tat.

Well, that's my opinion.

Chris.

civic_VTI

well how about buy a 350z and stick a mustang engine in it lol

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monkeyfkker

That's the important question... lol

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