What's up with Toyota?

nist7 · Aug 18, 2006, 5:14 PM

The supra got axed back in 2002 (import to US stopped way back in 1998) and just last year the Celica and the MR2 have been cut as well!

So basically Toyota's sportscar segment is dead as of now. There are fleeting rumors of a new MR2 and the recent Supra revival craze has been watered-down by numerous reports of it being entirely false. Of course I think it's probable that the Supra will come back but can it be competitive against its domestice counterparts that will be offering massive power for dirt cheap prices?

Aside from all that, it will certainly be exciting to see how their LF-A supercar turns out.

Fx55 · Aug 18, 2006, 5:28 PM

Straightline - Spy photos: 2008 Lexus IS 500

lexus is500

gman23rules · Aug 18, 2006, 5:31 PM

IF toyota stops making sports cars they will probably offer them through Lexus...i hope not though. i want to see a new Supra...come on Toyota!

lambo or holden · Aug 18, 2006, 5:35 PM

I think they may be trying to give Lexus all the sporty models and leave the "boring" models with the boring brand name.
Such as the IS, GS, SC and LS type models. But no low down end like Celica or an almost track car like the MR2.

4agze · Aug 18, 2006, 5:41 PM

as far as i know Toyota is regrouping their sports cars supra & MR2 will be back as Toyota.LF is a lexus idea of a supercar product and IS500 is something to give the M5 a run for its money.

nivlek · Aug 18, 2006, 5:44 PM

Well, toyota isnt a very intresting group of chaps, except for economy cars for now. I have complete faith in toyota that they will come back to the sportscar market. Toyota will need a sports car... At least something... For now just praise the IS350

Diesel349 · Aug 18, 2006, 6:07 PM

mayb they will overhaul and come out with a biger better line up...hopefully...

civic_VTI · Aug 18, 2006, 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4agze

as far as i know Toyota is regrouping their sports cars supra & MR2 will be back as Toyota.LF is a lexus idea of a supercar product and IS500 is something to give the M5 a run for its money.

the is500 is going to have a v8 with 400bhp to compete with the m3 not d m5

Car=Blaine · Aug 18, 2006, 6:53 PM

Although Toyota has dropped some models lately, they have been coming out with some impressive new models lately. And as for the IS500, it's most likely going to be hella fast, considering the outcome of the IS350...

Thlam · Aug 18, 2006, 6:58 PM

Scion TC was replacement for the Celica. Now where is the Supra and MR2

nivlek · Aug 18, 2006, 7:03 PM

the problem is Thlam, In some places in the world, Dont have Scion. I love the Tc though.... I want that car in canada so baddly

Thlam · Aug 18, 2006, 7:06 PM

Yeah I never understood that about having the TC replace the celica, its on in the US nowhere else, so no replacement for the celica really. I saw one up here in montreal awhile ago dam nice car for the price

triffid_98 · Aug 18, 2006, 7:24 PM

Toyota is trying to be cool like Honda and drop anything remotely sporty like a rock. Also, it may have something to do with their domestic market. There's probably not a lot of call for sports cars if you're living in permanent gridlock.

That and in US markets, there's probably not a ton of demand either. If you want to go fast, there are plenty of cheap and quick domestics (Mustang/Camaro/SRT4's). They have their flaws, but in a straight line it's just not a race. And don't get me started on the hard-on everyone seems to have for SUV's right now.

Thlam · Aug 18, 2006, 7:41 PM

Actually SUV sales are at an all time low right now...

nist7 · Aug 18, 2006, 9:14 PM

hmmmm.....

IS500, very interesting concept never seen it until Fx55 pointed that out. At first glance I was like "damn, it could be an M5 eater!" but it does seem to be a little underpowered than the M5. However, I don't think it's target is the M3. I think the IS500 may be a Japanese M5 offered at around the price of an M3...yeah?

And second, I've never got my panties up in a bunch over the tC. It looks pretty good but it just doesn't convey as much of a sportiness as the Celica, and not to mention the Celica has an actually established motorsport heritage behind it as well.

But if anyone has any more info on that IS500 please share! I am in the firm belief that Toyota is gunning for a piece of the M5 market.

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Originally Posted by triffid_98

Toyota is trying to be cool like Honda and drop anything remotely sporty like a rock.

wtf? I don't think dropping sporty models makes a car company cool! I think Honda is doing just fine. It's got the S2000 and the Civic Si, and of course the NSX successor is due in-time. There are even rumors flying around about a Mugen Accord with RWD and V8 power, holy crap another possible M5 eater!

Aug 18, 2006, 5:14 PM	#1
nist7 Bruce Lee wannabe Join Date: May 2005 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,665	What's up with Toyota? The supra got axed back in 2002 (import to US stopped way back in 1998) and just last year the Celica and the MR2 have been cut as well! So basically Toyota's sportscar segment is dead as of now. There are fleeting rumors of a new MR2 and the recent Supra revival craze has been watered-down by numerous reports of it being entirely false. Of course I think it's probable that the Supra will come back but can it be competitive against its domestice counterparts that will be offering massive power for dirt cheap prices? Aside from all that, it will certainly be exciting to see how their LF-A supercar turns out.

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gman23rules Poster Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: central valley, ny Posts: 330	IF toyota stops making sports cars they will probably offer them through Lexus...i hope not though. i want to see a new Supra...come on Toyota! __________________ A man's V8 is often second to only his penis and always gets priority over any significant other-Rav

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lambo or holden SCF Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Ghetto, Perth, Australia Posts: 8,850	I think they may be trying to give Lexus all the sporty models and leave the "boring" models with the boring brand name. Such as the IS, GS, SC and LS type models. But no low down end like Celica or an almost track car like the MR2. __________________ watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNZE2kYytzM

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4agze Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: SOCAL Posts: 298	as far as i know Toyota is regrouping their sports cars supra & MR2 will be back as Toyota.LF is a lexus idea of a supercar product and IS500 is something to give the M5 a run for its money. __________________ Balance is everything in a race car

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Diesel349 Sugar, water, purple. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA(school) Maplewood, NJ(home) Posts: 3,139	mayb they will overhaul and come out with a biger better line up...hopefully... __________________ You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whores uniform.

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Fx55 Poster Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 380	Straightline - Spy photos: 2008 Lexus IS 500 lexus is500

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nivlek Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: toronto Posts: 1,964	Well, toyota isnt a very intresting group of chaps, except for economy cars for now. I have complete faith in toyota that they will come back to the sportscar market. Toyota will need a sports car... At least something... For now just praise the IS350

Aug 18, 2006, 6:53 PM	#9
Car=Blaine Forum Guru Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada. Posts: 3,452	Although Toyota has dropped some models lately, they have been coming out with some impressive new models lately. And as for the IS500, it's most likely going to be hella fast, considering the outcome of the IS350...

Aug 18, 2006, 6:58 PM	#10
Thlam Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal,qc Posts: 4,075	Scion TC was replacement for the Celica. Now where is the Supra and MR2

Aug 18, 2006, 7:03 PM	#11
nivlek Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: toronto Posts: 1,964	the problem is Thlam, In some places in the world, Dont have Scion. I love the Tc though.... I want that car in canada so baddly

Aug 18, 2006, 7:06 PM	#12
Thlam Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal,qc Posts: 4,075	Yeah I never understood that about having the TC replace the celica, its on in the US nowhere else, so no replacement for the celica really. I saw one up here in montreal awhile ago dam nice car for the price

Aug 18, 2006, 7:24 PM	#13
triffid_98 Junior Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 81	Toyota is trying to be cool like Honda and drop anything remotely sporty like a rock. Also, it may have something to do with their domestic market. There's probably not a lot of call for sports cars if you're living in permanent gridlock. That and in US markets, there's probably not a ton of demand either. If you want to go fast, there are plenty of cheap and quick domestics (Mustang/Camaro/SRT4's). They have their flaws, but in a straight line it's just not a race. And don't get me started on the hard-on everyone seems to have for SUV's right now.

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Thlam Forum Guru Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal,qc Posts: 4,075	Actually SUV sales are at an all time low right now...

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