this is one of the people i really admire , he is the manager of the classic car club in israel and he owns this great Camero ,
he likes american muscle cars but hates there behaviour , after along time of preperation and importing alot of parts from the US he is building his car with a one week project of combinning and installing all of the things he planned .

An american 1980 Camaro Z28 on its way to become a Pro-Street Car !

the modifications that he will make includes :

1. A new diffrential with full lock .
2. a new V8 engine with 410 Hp
3. new Rear vented Brakes " with holes ( trying to be as clear as possible) "
4. Koni suspentions
5. Traction Bars so that the car won't sink when acclerating and to get less understeer
6.Sway Bars , a rear one 3.15 cm and a front 2.85 cm .
7.improving the chassy ( with bars or what ever its called so that it can handle more pressure - if any one understands what i ment explain it to the others )
8. FlowMaster
9.a new improved and more powerfull TCI new Gear Box
10.all the gumi stuff in car will be changed to poligrefet ( including the "Front" and the streering system )
11. a fast steering 12:1 from RACING APPLICATION , insted of 18:1 in the original
12. new improved aluminume pumps
13."lighting system"- (bad translatin)_ MSD
14. aluminume radiator
15. a system to check the the AIR/FUEL mix
16. headrs 3"

and more

the car :

http://www.classiccar.co.il/photogallery/pictures/80_Z28_ISRAEL_4_1.jpg

i will update about the project pics and more in a couple of days after he starts the project

This car is gonna be good... :shock:
How much is the whole thing going to cost?

Is he gonna get it painted? Cause I wouldn't mind the car, even without any modifications, with a different color :lol: I've neve rliked "gold" or "bronze" or whatever they want to call it.

Tell him good luck with the project....
If he has any questions don't hesitate to ask me....:-)

Tell him good luck with the project....
If he has any questions don't hesitate to ask me....:-)

i think he know about cars more than any here .. :)

hes a reporter for the top car magazine in israel , and he is the manager of the classic car club in israel , he test cars ( such the new viper last month is the us ) , and he's really cool .

hes gonna help me get our old benz on the road ( a 72 280 second hand ) .

if he does have any questions i will ask you .
i will update you about the project ( shame i can't upload any pics in the forum :( )

Tell him good luck with the project....
If he has any questions don't hesitate to ask me....:-)

i think he know about cars more than any here .. :)

hes a reporter for the top car magazine in israel , and he is the manager of the classic car club in israel , he test cars ( such the new viper last month is the us ) , and he's really cool .

hes gonna help me get our old benz on the road ( a 72 280 second hand ) .

if he does have any questions i will ask you .
i will update you about the project ( shame i can't upload any pics in the forum :( )

Well I've built up a 70 Chevelle and I know my American iron REALLY good.:-)
And as far as the pics, upload them from a website....

thanks blu,
if he ask for anyhelp you will be the first to know :)

what do you think about the modifications anyways?

i will update you about the project ( shame i can't upload any pics in the forum :( ) Just make an account at cardomain.com
---> http://www.cardomain.com/members/register.pl
Then you can uplodd pics :D

i will update you about the project ( shame i can't upload any pics in the forum :( ) Just make an account at cardomain.com
---> http://www.cardomain.com/members/register.pl
Then you can uplodd pics :D

thanks , i will upload pics soon as he starts with the project ( hopefully he will take alot of pics :wink: )

i will update you about the project ( shame i can't upload any pics in the forum :( ) Just make an account at cardomain.com
---> http://www.cardomain.com/members/register.pl
Then you can uplodd pics :Dthanks , i will upload pics soon as he starts with the project ( hopefully he will take alot of pics :wink: ) Your Welcome :D

the project is going ahead the engine is almost done , the gear is done the chassy is off the car its going to cleaning and painting tomorrow the work on spring , steering systems and more ...

pics here you go :

taking off the old engine and gear from the car
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/1.jpg

the old engine going to the grave !
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/2.jpg

the car with no chassy in the air !
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/3.jpg

the chassy after cleaning and painting
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/4.jpg

the engine in the last assymblying part
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/5.jpg

an other pic of the 470 hp engine ong about the output before )
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/6.jpg

Its comming along........

Haha, look at the yellow moped :lol::
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/5.jpg
Nice shiny new engine too :D

Yeah, I think I could wedge that into my Tempo...... :lol:

Wow. No offense, but i didn't know people from isreal do these kind of things (don't blame me, blame the media). Thats pretty damm cool. I was wondering if that was a 350 small block GM crate engine. I'm just guessing, cause the horsepower sounds right. I'm not much of a GM guy though.

Wow. No offense, but i didn't know people from isreal do these kind of things (don't blame me, blame the media)They're human beings too, and I bet they feel the need for speed as well :twisted:

Wow. No offense, but i didn't know people from isreal do these kind of things (don't blame me, blame the media). Thats pretty damm cool. I was wondering if that was a 350 small block GM crate engine. I'm just guessing, cause the horsepower sounds right. I'm not much of a GM guy though.

mainly israelys don't do such things couse its illegal , even a spoiler is illegal .
but some do some tunning too , although its illegal , some do it really shity and some do it real good .

this guy is one of the best i know , to make the thing legal , the guy had to make lots of prosedures , to make the engine legal he had to go to the traffic ministry and show them that there is a camaro which have this engine ( came out of the factury that way ) so that he can install a legal engine , other things police won't know the diffrence .

for the engine i don't know which block , but i know its the biggest for the camaro , it have 410 Hp when it was produced in the factury , after modifications it have 470 or so ( as you can see its still not tested or finished ) .

i will send some other pics and exapntions about the project when its done

for the engine i don't know which block , but i know its the biggest for the camaro , it have 410 Hp when it was produced in the factury

Its not the biggest by a longshot, Camaros had big blocks 396-427 cid engines avalible. Thats a small block hes using.

for the engine i don't know which block , but i know its the biggest for the camaro , it have 410 Hp when it was produced in the factury

Its not the biggest by a longshot, Camaros had big blocks 396-427 cid engines avalible. Thats a small block hes using.

i will ask him tomorrow and get back to you on that one :)

couse i honestly don't know alot about these cars , i only know that his engine have 410Hp from the factury .

ok here is the specs and the information about the engine - if you can get the info that you want :)

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/autopartsphotos/crate/410hp_graph.gif

The Edelbrock Performer RPM engines are based on the GM ZZ short block and includes high-quality parts for outstanding street high-performance. The engine assembly includes flat-top pistons, a forged steel crank and 4-bolt main block. Complete with Performer RPM aluminum heads, the Performer RPM cam is matched to the compression ratio, manifold and carb for maximum power from 1500 to 6500 rpm. Choose from a Performer RPM manifold or the RPM Air-Gap with the race-proven air-gap design. Select either an Edelbrock high-performance Q-Jet carb or a Performer Series 800 cfm carb with electric choke

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/autopartsphotos/crate/perf_rpm.jpg

i guess this is the info that you wanted right :)

by the way i asked him from were did he import the parts and so on

the answer was :
1.Summit Racing
2.Jegs Racing


Blu i know you are the expert here so tell me what do you think about the engine and are those tunners known /?? ( couse i honestly don't know them )

ok here is the specs and the information about the engine - if you can get the info that you want :)

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/autopartsphotos/crate/410hp_graph.gif

The Edelbrock Performer RPM engines are based on the GM ZZ short block and includes high-quality parts for outstanding street high-performance. The engine assembly includes flat-top pistons, a forged steel crank and 4-bolt main block. Complete with Performer RPM aluminum heads, the Performer RPM cam is matched to the compression ratio, manifold and carb for maximum power from 1500 to 6500 rpm. Choose from a Performer RPM manifold or the RPM Air-Gap with the race-proven air-gap design. Select either an Edelbrock high-performance Q-Jet carb or a Performer Series 800 cfm carb with electric choke

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/autopartsphotos/crate/perf_rpm.jpg

i guess this is the info that you wanted right :)

by the way i asked him from were did he import the parts and so on

the answer was :
1.Summit Racing
2.Jegs Racing


Blu i know you are the expert here so tell me what do you think about the engine and are those tunners known /?? ( couse i honestly don't know them )


Thats a pretty good set-up. should put the car in the 12's easily.
Summit and Jegs are basically the two largest parts sellers in the USA, they are not tuners. They sell parts. LOTS of them lol.

Thats a pretty good set-up. should put the car in the 12's easily.
Summit and Jegs are basically the two largest parts sellers in the USA, they are not tuners. They sell parts. LOTS of them lol.


oppssss didn't know :oops:

anyways your telling me it will be a little hard beating him in a straight line race ha :wink:

anyways i will keep you updated with the project :)

i knew it was a GM block.

i knew it was a GM block.

can you tell me what the diffrents between a short block and a long block ???

couse its kinda confusing !@ and which is better?

i knew it was a GM block.

can you tell me what the diffrents between a short block and a long block ???

couse its kinda confusing !@ and which is better?


Neither is better, short block is basically just the bare block, while a long block comes with more parts like the crankshaft, pistions, manifold etc....

ok thanks Blu

ok the project is in the final stages , it wil be over next week , pics of the final car will be posted later ...

here are some other pics of the project :twisted:

the steering and the front parts - made from "polegrefet" wich is better than the gumi used in the regular sports cars , more power full and helps the car in corners ( the car don't sink in corners )
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/7.jpg

i don't know the name in english but you prbably will know the part - after cleaning and repainting
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/9.jpg

the headers after cleaning - one is covered in the pic with some sord of stuff which reduced the head in the engine box by 70% ( the second is already covered but not in the pic )
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/8.jpg

the chassy layed down with some part like the bar and the Koni , steering box....
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/10.jpg

the chassy conneceted to the body with most of the stuff , now the part of installing the wheels and the brakes and the front part will be done :twisted:
http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro/11.jpg

pics of the final project will be posted when its done :wink:

White-Night, what is the guy going to do for the paint job :?:

White-Night, what is the guy going to do for the paint job :?:

didn't understand the question ?? which paint job ??

The body work i think or is it going to stay that Gold type of colour :)

The body work i think or is it going to stay that Gol type of colour :)

i think he kinda likes the colour , and its new ( 6 years old ) but i don't really know how far is going to go with this project so guess i will have to check that out :wink:

The body work i think or is it going to stay that Gold type of colour :)That's what I meant :D

The body work i think or is it going to stay that Gol type of colour :)

i think he kinda likes the colour , and its new ( 6 years old ) but i don't really know how far is going to go with this project so guess i will have to check that out :wink:
If he goes all the way the colour could do with changing (i think any way) may be one of the two tone ones... :?:

Hi everybody,

I must admit that I was a bit amazed to see my project around here, i found the link when i was browsing for info about other camaro's on the net..

Well, the Camaro project is done, well, kind of, cause car projects are never done...but anyway, there is a link to the website of the car, including Spec. and restoration pics:

http://www.classiccar.co.il/camaro

C ya on the strip ;-)

lior.

Welcome to SCF, great project

yes, cool project, welcome to www.sportscarforums.com

thanks for adding to a dead thread you brought up :wink: :lol:

Welcome. Very nice car you got there man. A real sleeper, which is one of my dreams.. =P~ I have to agree with the choice on not adding any body kits or outlandish wheels, it actually looks pretty good stock when you know whats under the hood. :shock: :lol:

Hey nice car man. Love Camaros and speaking of Camaros here's another one. Its my brothers friend's and its a pretty sweet late 80s IROC-Z. This guy also recently bought a new GTO. All I can do is envy him...
http://www.poorformance.net/frontpage.shtml
I love the corvette lights he put on it, nice touch IMO...

Put the pictures in with an edit:
http://www.poorformance.net/iroc/myiroc1.jpg
http://www.poorformance.net/iroc/myiroc3.jpg
http://www.poorformance.net/iroc/myiroc2.jpg

welcome to scf Lior, and nice car. do you have any other plans for the camaro?

welcome to scf Lior, and nice car. do you have any other plans for the camaro?

Actually yeah.... 6 gears - menual, 17" wheels, 275 (245 current) on the back, 245 (current) front, still thinking about NOS....not sure about it. well, that's for now :)

It's a 5 sec 0-60mph car, about 12 sec on the 1/4 strip. if ill change to slicks, it will go to lower 11'. it turns like it's been glued to the road, just like any top europian sport car.

Holy **** that is a lot of urethane bushings. My 2001 V6 suspension only include,

Kenny Brown springs
kenny Brown strut tower brace
Kenny Brown lower chassis brace
GT Sway Bars Front and Rear
Energy urethane sway bar bushings, spring
isolators and lower control arm bushings
GRC Performance full-length subframe connectors
Koni sport struts and shocks
Maximum Motorsports lower contorl arms
with spheical bearings
-1.5 front camber
Brothers Performance end-link kit

Just a small list of suspension mods

just fyi: it's not neccessary to bring up your car in every single topic :wink:

Holy [censored] that is a lot of urethane bushings. My 2001 V6 suspension only include,

Kenny Brown springs
kenny Brown strut tower brace
Kenny Brown lower chassis brace
GT Sway Bars Front and Rear
Energy urethane sway bar bushings, spring
isolators and lower control arm bushings
GRC Performance full-length subframe connectors
Koni sport struts and shocks
Maximum Motorsports lower contorl arms
with spheical bearings
-1.5 front camber
Brothers Performance end-link kit

Just a small list of suspension mods

Very nice.....

That could be a great ride, if it wasnt a mustang... ;-)

Lior.