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DarkMagician
Jan 19, 2004, 1:44 PM
the car is almost 5 years old
but I just found out about it, the car looks really awesomme to me :)
http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=330&autoShowID=10

but to be honest
Its rather bad,
compared to the old Chargers, this one has not much BHP and a high weight

BluCamSS
Jan 19, 2004, 1:52 PM
They still might make a car like that soon.
And as far as the horsepower statement....
I don't know if you know this or not but prior to 1973
horsepower was measured very differently. It was called gross ratings.
They were taken with no accesories, no exhaust and no emmisons and were WAY off.
After 1973 the new net ratings came out and took all that into account.

So a 1969 car with lets say 450 horsepower....
Is the SAME as a 2004 car with about 325 horsepower....

The new way of rating horsepower is used just about all over the world.
The differences between all the new ratings at most are about 10-15 horsepower.

The best way to find the actaul horsepower a new car makes if you see conflicting information is to simply check their website. :-)

DarkMagician
Jan 19, 2004, 2:00 PM
yeah, but stil for nowadays 300 BHP is no muscle car
something like the bugatti Veyron is more like it :P

BluCamSS
Jan 19, 2004, 2:12 PM
yeah, but stil for nowadays 300 BHP is no muscle car



Sure it is, if geared well 300 bhp is pleanty.

DarkMagician
Jan 19, 2004, 2:17 PM
yeah thats true, but I dont think thats good for a new model of the Charger

BluCamSS
Jan 19, 2004, 2:23 PM
yeah thats true, but I dont think thats good for a new model of the Charger

I do, the 2005 Mustang will have 300 also.

DarkMagician
Jan 19, 2004, 2:53 PM
the real muscle cars haev really died out :(

BluCamSS
Jan 19, 2004, 2:56 PM
the real muscle cars haev really died out :(

Well yes, and no.

DarkMagician
Jan 19, 2004, 3:04 PM
yeah, but they wont make a sound like them anymore, and the Muscle car generation like they are used to be ARE REALLY DIED OUT :(

jimkk29
Jan 19, 2004, 4:57 PM
yeah, but they wont make a sound like them anymore, and the Muscle car generation like they are used to be ARE REALLY DIED OUT :(
I kinda agree with this...

Jimmy
Jan 20, 2004, 4:45 AM
yeah, I agree with it to, there are really no new Muscle cars build anymore :cry:

Raith83
Jan 20, 2004, 9:39 AM
There's a very good reason that true muscle cars have 'died out'. You can get comparatively fast cars with alot less displacement. I really with I had this article in hand, but bare with me. It was reveiwing some sport compacts and comparing them to a group of muslce cars they had tested back in the day. I'm very sure these cars had equal or faster times 0-60 (1/4 miles time, they didn't mention) and then there is the whole realm of handling that muscle cars never even dreamed of. So, no one would buy a "true" muscle car nowdays. What the market demands is all around performance with high end engineering. Muscle cars are raw, brimestone spewing road monsters that will forever be in the past. I'm not saying they are bad, don't get me wrong, it's just that the market has changed with times, as hit always will. I'm sure when I grow up and have kids, everyone will all be about electric cars, but I'd be an old fuddy duddy with an internal combustion driven car and my kids will laugh at me as I waste money on gas :wink:

jimkk29
Jan 20, 2004, 9:59 AM
Once again, very nicely said Raith.

BluCamSS
Jan 20, 2004, 12:52 PM
There's a very good reason that true muscle cars have 'died out'. You can get comparatively fast cars with alot less displacement. I really with I had this article in hand, but bare with me. It was reveiwing some sport compacts and comparing them to a group of muslce cars they had tested back in the day. I'm very sure these cars had equal or faster times 0-60 (1/4 miles time, they didn't mention) and then there is the whole realm of handling that muscle cars never even dreamed of. So, no one would buy a "true" muscle car nowdays. What the market demands is all around performance with high end engineering. Muscle cars are raw, brimestone spewing road monsters that will forever be in the past. I'm not saying they are bad, don't get me wrong, it's just that the market has changed with times, as hit always will. I'm sure when I grow up and have kids, everyone will all be about electric cars, but I'd be an old fuddy duddy with an internal combustion driven car and my kids will laugh at me as I waste money on gas :wink:

There is only ONE reason muscle cars are gone, the gasoline crisis of the mid to late 1970's.
Thats a known fact. Muscle cars are still HUGELY popular. Go to a auction and you will see countless cars that cost $3,000-$5,000 going for $50,000-$500,000.

And I wouldn't count on electric cars getting popular. Even California, the biggest supporter of them has given up on them. They have way, way to many shortcommings. Not to mention how clean internal combustion engines have gotten.

jimkk29
Jan 20, 2004, 5:10 PM
Not to mention how clean internal combustion engines have gotten.
That's true, although if you add up the emissions of the millions of cars on Earth, then you've got a naaaaasty atmosphere pollution...

agitatedcorn
Jan 20, 2004, 5:42 PM
I LIKE the Charger...

RiceBoy
Jan 21, 2004, 2:06 AM
i saw an article somewheres i cant recall at the moment...but it was about tuning the new prius...and that it could be a new line of sport compacts....

i think its just rediculous...i could never imagine myself in a green monster...never...
its sorta like the jolly green giant...big and GAY :lol:

RiceBoy
Jan 21, 2004, 2:07 AM
damn...all of that above that i said shoulda been in the asian forums... :P :P :P