I have heard that because of new emmissions in Japan the Nissan Skyline, Mazda Rx7 and the Toyota Supra will no longer be able to be produced. I was wondering if that is true or not.

They already stopped producing them a long time ago. The RX-7 and Skyline have been out of production for more than a year. The Supra for like 5 years, in America anyways.

You call your self "skylineman" and you don't even know if the Skyline is being made or not.

Oh, ome off it dark hunter. It's just a screen name and he might REALLY REALLY LIKE Skylines, but how does that make him supposed to know everyhing about them? Anyway, they will make a Skyline R36 and it will come to America. Toyota wants to make another Supra and an RX-7 worthy replacement should be in the works as well. EVERYTHING is up in the air an nothing offical has been said either way about these cars.

If I REALLY REALLY LIKE something, I want to know everything about it. That's what I meant. Before you moderators bane me or lock this topic, I apologize skylineman, sorry

Oh, ome off it dark hunter. It's just a screen name and he might REALLY REALLY LIKE Skylines, but how does that make him supposed to know everyhing about them?

I agree.. I am a Camaro fan but I don't know everything about Camaros...

They already stopped producing them a long time ago. The RX-7 and Skyline have been out of production for more than a year, and the Supra for like 5 years.

Thats FALSE they have been making Supras and RX-7s in Japan up to last year or so.

Yeah. I said they made the RX-7 until last year. I wasn't sure about the Supra, but they stopped making them in the US a while ago. Do you remember that topic? Nobody could figure out when they stopped making them in Japan. So they might still be making them.

can't wait for skyline and supra to make a comback :shock: :shock: :shock:

Skyline are being produced.
Skyline R-35 which will be lauched in UAE - left hand drive has 350z engine in it.

I guess nissan strongest machine is R-34 at the moment ...and will remain for a couple of years...

Supra's have stopped from 2002 i have not come across any supra's 2002 in japan .. 2001 are limited though. but the difference is only lights and a couple of lastest gadgets inside.. that is all ..

My R-34 is now left hand drive..
I have Gts R-33 rb25 as well modified to left hand drive.
I have observed its better to buy a GTS- 33 rb25 . as after modification it is as good as r34 standard.

faiz

What do you mean "UAE"??

United Arab Emirates or something like that. And yes Skylines are still being produced. They're just Infiniti G35 that Nissan calls Skylines, though.

Yeah, close but no cigar. The "G35" is one of the "we'll call it a skyline cause we can" sorta' cars I think. It's not bad, but it's no Skyline. :wink:

Skylines are no longer being produced.. The Japanese people call G35s "Skyline Coupes" if thats what you meant. The only thing with a skyline name coming out is the R35. I pray that they slash the project. :cry:

The only thing with a skyline name coming out is the R35. I pray that they slash the project. :cry: I pray they don't stop it, I pray they change the car from top to bottom :P

There is nothing definite on the new skyline. But the way things WERE shaping the G35 6 speed with AWD will be closest to the skyline concept so far...except turbo. They did ditch the cars forementioned b/c of emissions in Japan.

the skyline IS being produced. it's just the new generation. a mustang is a mustang, whether it be an '85 or an '03 or whatever - it's a mustang, just different generations. the Infiniti G35 is the newest generation SKYLINE. i'm assuming you guys are all referring to the skyline GT-R when you say skyline, right? all skylines are not GTR's. all mustangs aren't GT's. same idea. the new skyline GT-R i'm sure is being worked on in japan, possibly 3.5L tt, 3.0L tt, who knows. but in the end, we DO have a skyline here in the US, under a different badge and name - the Infiniti G-35.

in japan they can only go 3 generations of the same platform in any given car. the skyline had the R32, R33, and R34, all on the same platform, so japanese law states they have to change it after the third generation, which is what they did.

anyway i just wanted to clear things up, because this is all my understanding, unless i've been told wrong.

United Arab Emirates..
REPRESENT THE ARABS!

in japan they can only go 3 generations of the same platform in any given car. the skyline had the R32, R33, and R34, all on the same platform, so japanese law states they have to change it after the third generation, which is what they did.


Are you sure thats a law? That is WEIRD.

Are you sure thats a law? That is WEIRD.

i'm not absolutely positive so don't hold me to it, but i'm pretty sure i've heard it twice before. but if you look at the evidence, especially nissan, then it seems to hold some credibility. S13, S14, S15 - same platform, ends with the S15. R32, R33, R34 - same platform, ends with the R34. ... hmm i guess that's all the evidence i have. oh well like i said don't hold me to it. :)

they got all sortsa funny laws in japan. i'm not too sure about the specifics but there's one about, you get taxed if your car's engine has over 40k miles on it or something. hence all the slightly used "JDM" import engines like the B18C5, and B16's.

another one is their whole "k-car" thing. you're exempt from some tax if your car's engine is under 660cc, as well as some lower-insurance benefits. normally these k-cars come with turbos, so they can actually move along the road with those tiny engines. here's an article i found. http://metropolis.japantoday.com/tokyo/413/cars_bikes.asp

in japan they can only go 3 generations of the same platform in any given car. the skyline had the R32, R33, and R34, all on the same platform, so japanese law states they have to change it after the third generation, which is what they did.
Are you sure thats a law? That is WEIRD. Ya, that would be a strange law.

Im pretty much positive its all emissions driven. Thats why they have the 40k mile law too. Thats why us Americans can buy motors from Japan so easily. The thing I liked about the old skyline is that the Z, the skyline, and the silvia were all different platforms. Now the Z, the maxima, the G35, and the new concept skyline look too much alike. Good thing is that anyone who has the VQ35DE will get all the benefits of developement put into the VQ race engines...which I beleive are the 3.0 liter though b/c of diplacement restrictions. So if they finally debut the VQ30/35DETT you will be happy if you are a G35 owner. But...stuff will cost ALOT of money Im sure.

Are you sure thats a law? That is WEIRD.

i'm not absolutely positive so don't hold me to it, but i'm pretty sure i've heard it twice before. but if you look at the evidence, especially nissan, then it seems to hold some credibility. S13, S14, S15 - same platform, ends with the S15. R32, R33, R34 - same platform, ends with the R34. ... hmm i guess that's all the evidence i have. oh well like i said don't hold me to it. :)

That makes no sense. More likely, the model code represents the base frame of the car. All the Skyline "R" series used the same frame and drivetrain, just different exteriors, and each model year got mechanical improvements. Same thing with the Silvia, same basic frame, just different exteriors and mechanical modifications.

they got all sortsa funny laws in japan. i'm not too sure about the specifics but there's one about, you get taxed if your car's engine has over 40k miles on it or something. hence all the slightly used "JDM" import engines like the B18C5, and B16's.

Two reason for that, Japan has a lot of dramatic weather changes due to being a series of volcanic islands in the pacific, plus the horrendous traffic that puts LA to shame. After 3 years, they go through a smog inspection like we do in the states, except the japanese version is more strict. I'm not sure if the mileage matters, but if the car is not in the best safety condition, and the engine doesn't meet emissions requirements, they pay hefty penalties to get the car into compliance (Since only licensed mechanics can make mechanical modifications to cars, this makes it expensive). This is also why there is no used car market in Japan, but a huge export business.

Keep in mind about the R Series Skyline, the RB26DETT made 280+hp with turbos attached to a 2.6L Inline 6. The V35 (the current code for it), makes 278hp (US) in a 3.5L V6. Why people complain about this I don't understand. with no turbo, the VQ makes as much power as the RB, and has race components in it also. You could go much farther in power strapping a turbo on the VQ and making some internal mods.

Keep in mind about the R Series Skyline, the RB26DETT made 280+hp with turbos attached to a 2.6L Inline 6. The V35 (the current code for it), makes 278hp (US) in a 3.5L V6. Why people complain about this I don't understand. with no turbo, the VQ makes as much power as the RB, and has race components in it also. You could go much farther in power strapping a turbo on the VQ and making some internal mods.
You are right, BUT the VQ has much larger displacement, and large displacement is subject to heavy taxes in some countries, including the one I live.

You get taxed for displacement size??? Now I understand the Euro-engine rationale - get more power out of less space.

Never heard of that. We pay luxury taxes for cars over $35 or $40k when brand new, and I thought THAT was unfair.

You are right, BUT the VQ has much larger displacement, and large displacement is subject to heavy taxes in some countries, including the one I live.


That sucks for you....:-)

. We pay luxury taxes for cars over $35 or $40k when brand new, and I thought THAT was unfair.

I think it is over 40K.

I understand the 280hp law. If every kid in Japan had a 400hp tuner the city of Japan would be SMOG. :( Imagine if people drove Excursions in Japan. :shock: I kind of understand what you are saying about the only three gens law.. but why not just modify the existing chasis? It could still be up to code.

You get taxed for displacement size??? Now I understand the Euro-engine rationale - get more power out of less space.

Never heard of that. We pay luxury taxes for cars over $35 or $40k when brand new, and I thought THAT was unfair.
Our taxation system totally SUCKS.
You need to be fairly rich to buy a car over 2.5-3.0lt...
That's why most cars here are between 1.0 and 2.0 lt.

hey mrboone2, u from northern CA?

what city? :D

i'm from sunnyvale

I understand the 280hp law. If every kid in Japan had a 400hp tuner the city of Japan would be SMOG. :( Imagine if people drove Excursions in Japan. :shock:

Virtually all tuning in japan is done by a licensed mechanic since anything that could change crash-safety, visibility, and emissions is regulated. Japan is a smoggy nation, but the winds blow it out to the pacific (and ends up in the western US).

I kind of understand what you are saying about the only three gens law.. but why not just modify the existing chasis? It could still be up to code.

Manufacturers typically use the same frame for 10 model years or two generations, whichever comes last. When they build a new frame, they take all the incremental improvements on the last frame and incorporate into the new one.

Yes..
UAE mean United Arab Emirates.

Im pakistani .. born and brought up here

Faiz

Nice. :D

the supra was in its fourth generation
the rx7 in its fourth generation
the skylines have many generations...
the GTR, the slivias, the rx7s, the supras, the pulsar GTi-Rs, the GTO's, the celica GT-Fours, the 180SX's., and most of the japanese automakers turbocharged cars have ended production in their turbocharged versions....there are still silvias being made in the varieta(convertable form) the SR20 engine lives on in the nissan X-TRail GT(SUV) as the SR20VET (with variable valve timing making 280 BHP). the last incarnation of the RB26 came in the nissan stagea autech version (a station wagon). supras were made in japan up until 2002...so was the RX7 with the RX7 type RZ. the last GTR produced was the skyline GTR V-spec Nur which was in 2002

the only laws i know of in japan was the 280HP limit on production street cars...

ps the VQ makes 278...the skyline is stated at 280...but dynos around 320HP or more...depending on whethere its a basic GTR or a V-Spec

Just stumbled onto this forum, and got reading this thread, there is much confusion regarding The Skyline and the next GT-R.

scientist
The GT-R and the V-Spec have no difference in power output, the differences are;
A modified active LSD controlled in conjunction by a viscous coupling (hence the term V-spec)
Stiffer suspension and aerodynamics parts.
Special front and rear Venturi style diffusers were developed, the rear one constructed entirely from carbon fibre.

nismO21
The RB26 engine in the R32 is the strongest of them all, and the best when it comes to modification, they shaved some weight off it for the R33 because the car was heavier, and again for The R34, i believe this applied to The RB25 also.

Regarding the RB26DETT, there is a 'gentlemans agreement' in Japan that no production car can be more than 276 bhp, which is why all of these cars are officially 276bhp, but the reality is a bit different.

Quote;
"Nissan decided that it was no longer financially viable to develop a new engine to replace the RB26DETT in order to comply with new emission regulations to be effective on the 1st Aug 2002 in Japan. Therefore the Skyline GT-R came to an end that day."

There is no longer going to be a Skyline GT-R, there is now going to be a Skyline V35 (Infiniti G-35 depending on where you live) which has a V6 3.5litre, and a GT-R, which will be a completely different car altogether, no Skyline will ever be badged GT-R again. :cry:

Two articles for you regarding the new GT-R;
The next GT-R supercar won't be a V8. But dont worry. GT-R product planning manager Hiroshi Tamura hinted recently that his team is aiming to produce "a car which can rival the porsche 911 Turbo in performance and handling."
The GT-R will run a twin-turbo 3.2 litre V6, developing an estimated 330kw (dont know conversion to HP) and putting its power down through an updated ATESSA all-wheel drive system.
The next GT-R's chassis is a combination of a super-rigid aluminium spaceframe and lightweight steel exterior panels. And the Nissan boss Carlos Ghosn recently hinted, "We can expect to see some radical good-looking styling that will impress even the most hardcore critics."
Nissan has been secretly testing the new engine in domestic touring car racing. Sources admit that JGTC racer's engine is mechanically true to the V35, including the dry sump and the engine's extremely low mounting in the bay.
Project manager Tamura is a tough guy to deal with, very cagey, but he did say that nissan will be building the next model and "no one else!"
He did sound pretty upbeat, however, about the GT-R getting 330kw plus. But he did confirm that it would NOT be a V8. He said engine powering the next car would be a specially designed unit, conceived specifically for the GT-R. But he has had his hurdles to clear in the process - probably why nissan is taking its time to sign off the final pakage. Every now and then, executives including Carlos Ghosn drop by Tamura's design studio to give their penny's worth of input, hence slowing things down. He didnt say it in as many words, but you get the impression Tamura and his Japanese team see the next GT-R in a rather different way from what the French (Renult) side envisage.

And

The GT-R concept has been finalized. The new car will target the 911 Turbo as its primary competitor. The new GT-R will feature a VQ32DETT Twin-Turbo V6 engine. Estimated output will be over 480ps and over 420 lb/ft of torque .
In addition, it will also feature the improve active AWD system. The engine will be developed by a joint venture of Nissan and Cosworth. The new turbo system will feature a electronic Anti-Lag-system. Which means the turbine will be driven by an electic-powered motor when the thottle is lifted. The new chassis will be a brand new one (code: FR-L), which is composed of steel and Aluminum alloy. Suspension will be taken from the current Skyline (G35) with certain improvements made.
Estimated to be in the market in spring 2007, with a price tag of over £60K.
GT-R Engine: VQ32DETT V6 Twin-Turbo, featuring colaboration with Cosworth Technology for ;
. Direct in-cylinder petrol injection technology
. Variable valvetrain technology
. Displacement on demand technology
. Aluminium cast engine block
Garrett are said to have helped design the turbine anti-lag system using electronic assistance

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Hope this clears up at least some of the confusion,
Thankyou for your time.

The new turbo system will feature a electronic Anti-Lag-system. Which means the turbine will be driven by an electic-powered motor when the thottle is lifted.
:shock: :shock:
Man, there are some REALLY intelligent ideas concerning automotive engineering!!

great info Tobes! interesting stuff. i wonder if there are any new pictures of the "FR-L"

great info Tobes! interesting stuff. i wonder if there are any new pictures of the "FR-L"

There is photos of the new GTR, although this is still a concept car, it's believed to be very close to the finished article.

http://mangaz.moteurs.free.fr/assets/nissan/Nissan%20GTR%20New.jpg

http://mangaz.moteurs.free.fr/assets/nissan/Nissan%20GTR%20New!.jpg

Tobes

http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2001/tokyo/highlights/images/nissan-gtr1516s.jpg

http://www.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/saloes/toquio01/nissan-gtr-2.jpg

http://www.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/saloes/toquio01/nissan-gtr-1.jpg

Fortunately, they have kept the trademark 'afterburner' rear lights. :D

Whatever people say about 'rice' (don't really understand all that) etc, i think that car looks fantastic, and would think it will keep all us (Skyline) GT-R fans happy.
Tobes.

is it on the same platform as the V35 skyline? or is it a new platform altogether? it looks similar to the V35(G35), chassis-wise.

i think it looks great. only thing questionable for me is the headlights. can't wait til 2007!

It justs looks wrong to me :?

is it on the same platform as the V35 skyline? or is it a new platform altogether? it looks similar to the V35(G35), chassis-wise.

i think it looks great. only thing questionable for me is the headlights. can't wait til 2007!

Rouin,
I would imagine there will probably be simarlarities and shared parts with both the V35 and the 350Z, but "The new chassis will be a brand new one (code: FR-L), which is composed of steel and Aluminum alloy"
I understand the front lights will be wider, more like the 350Z lights.
Can't wait 'till 2007 either,Hiroshi Tamura (Nissan) says it's going to be a 'drivers' car for the real GTR fans, only time will tell, but i think all the signs are positive ones. :D


It justs looks wrong to me :?

dark_hunter,
can i ask you why you think it looks wrong, i've been waiting for this car for what seems like ages, and have always thought that Nissan will not let The GTR down, i have, from first seeing the original concept been quite excited, so just curious as to what you think.

Tobes.

It justs looks wrong to me :?dark_hunter,
can i ask you why you think it looks wrong, i've been waiting for this car for what seems like ages, and have always thought that Nissan will not let The GTR down, i have, from first seeing the original concept been quite excited, so just curious as to what you think.First of all the front looks weird to me. The thing I like is that they kept the taillights the same :D. I hope they keep it a concept, buy it looks like they won't :?
But if it performs like the R34 does, maybe I will forget how it looks like :wink:

First of all the front looks weird to me. The thing I like is that they kept the taillights the same :D. I hope they keep it a concept, buy it looks like they won't :?
But if it performs like the R34 does, maybe I will forget how it looks like :wink:

Fair comment, the front does look a bit different, but i understand the front will be more like a cross between the concept and a 350Z, I agree i think it was very important to keep the 'afterburner' rear lights, that is the identity of the car.
I would like to think it will out perform The R34 in every department, otherwise what's the point ?

I would go as far as to say that that car looks like every robot inthe factory beat the crap out of it. Ok well maybe not that bad but please. Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever.

Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever.I didn't understand what you said there :?

I would go as far as to say that that car looks like every robot inthe factory beat the crap out of it. Ok well maybe not that bad but please. Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever.

Couldn't agree more.

I would go as far as to say that that car looks like every robot inthe factory beat the crap out of it. Ok well maybe not that bad but please. Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever.Couldn't agree more.Could you tell me what he said please BluCamSS :?:
Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever. :?:

I would go as far as to say that that car looks like every robot inthe factory beat the crap out of it. Ok well maybe not that bad but please. Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever.

That's cool, each to their own, i dare say you'd like the look of something, and i wouldn't, fair enough. :)

dark_hunter
I think what slowfiveoh meant to say was;
"Car is DEFINITELY not the 'be all and end all' (not end all be all) But eh whatever"

He means there is more to life than Skylines, which is true, i'd just suggest he has a go in one that's 550-600 bhp, launch it round a track and then pass judgement, people who knock generally haven't driven, or undersand them !
That's not to say slowfiveoh hasn't driven one, i don't know if he has or not, but generally that's the case.

Tobes.

I would go as far as to say that that car looks like every robot inthe factory beat the crap out of it. Ok well maybe not that bad but please. Why does it always have to be skyline this skyline that? Car is DEFINITELY not the end all be all. But eh whatever.dark_hunter
I think what slowfiveoh meant to say was;
"Car is DEFINITELY not the 'be all and end all' (not end all be all) But eh whatever"
He means there is more to life than Skylines, which is true, i'd just suggest he has a go in one that's 550-600 bhp, launch it round a track and then pass judgement, people who knock generally haven't driven, or undersand them !
That's not to say slowfiveoh hasn't driven one, i don't know if he has or not, but generally that's the case.oh, thanks for clearing that up for me Tobes :D

true the skyline isn't all that it's cracked up to be at least here in the states. it's definitely overrated, especially considering half the people out there think skyline = gtr, which is definitely not the case. i think about 90% of its popularity in the states is due to the fact that u can't attain them here.

HOWEVER, this topic is about the skyline, so we're going to talk about it. so "skyline this skyline that" is going to happen in a skyline topic.

I was replying in regard to the numerous threads started about the same car.

[quote="Rouin"]true the skyline isn't all that it's cracked up to be at least here in the states. it's definitely overrated, especially considering half the people out there think skyline = gtr, which is definitely not the case. i think about 90% of its popularity in the states is due to the fact that u can't attain them here. [quote]

This may well be the case, i think the point regarding the Skyline, is that the engine in stock form pushes out 276bhp (to about 300 depending on what you believe) but is specifically designed so it can be easily tuned/modified to 500bhp before any major engine rebuild work needs to be done.
Not many cars can boast that.
You're sadly correct in your assumption that most people are slightly ignorant regarding The Skyline varients, although i do have a GTR, a friend has a GTS-T Type M, he specifically wanted one as he loves RWD cars and drifting, so each to their own, i do track mine, and believe me, i've left Ferrari's Porsche's and some other far more expensive marques behind, now i could never afford a 575, or a decent Porsche, tell me another car that is such good value for your money, it may not be everyones 'cup of tea' but i love mine. :D

[quote="Rouin"]true the skyline isn't all that it's cracked up to be at least here in the states. it's definitely overrated, especially considering half the people out there think skyline = gtr, which is definitely not the case. i think about 90% of its popularity in the states is due to the fact that u can't attain them here. [quote]

This may well be the case, i think the point regarding the Skyline, is that the engine in stock form pushes out 276bhp (to about 300 depending on what you believe) but is specifically designed so it can be easily tuned/modified to 500bhp before any major engine rebuild work needs to be done.
Not many cars can boast that.
You're sadly correct in your assumption that most people are slightly ignorant regarding The Skyline varients, although i do have a GTR, a friend has a GTS-T Type M, he specifically wanted one as he loves RWD cars and drifting, so each to their own, i do track mine, and believe me, i've left Ferrari's Porsche's and some other far more expensive marques behind, now i could never afford a 575, or a decent Porsche, tell me another car that is such good value for your money, it may not be everyones 'cup of tea' but i love mine. :D

Well being stateside there are lots of cars that have more capability then the skyline for less money.The 03 Cobra can handle well over 1000hp without internall modifications, and I've seen JZseries Supras handle well over 700 at the crank with no bottom end modifications. Thats really not that bad. I would say being able to put out 500hp without doing any bottom end or internal modifications could be said for a lot of cars. LT1 cars, and Ford Mustang from 87 up, Corvettes, etc. Thats why I say the skyline is over idolized. Very good car yes. But s said before not the most impressive thing ever.

Rx-7 is being redesigned for 06 i heard about it before and i think i rmeber seeing it in concept form in a recent road and track. as for the supra i believe they are redisgnign that but i heard that pretty long ago i think it was 06 also. as for the skyline ive seen many r35s but im hearing talk about the US's "G35" being the skyline over in japan. NOt sure if its foreal or not but anyway. its liek gonna be called 350GT or somethin. the gt-r is
not suppose to come out til later

"2006 Mazda RX-7: If the RX-8 is the success Mazda is banking on, a two-door RX-7 may follow for 2006. On the drawing board is a shortened, lighter car boasting 280-330 hp." -motortrend
http://www.motortrend.com/future/spied/112_2006fvf/index1.html


http://www.nagaokaseiki.co.jp/skyline-cpv35-02.jpg
http://www.nagaokaseiki.co.jp/skyline-cpv35-01.jpg
Nissan Skyline 350GT

http://www.home.no/maxmekker/1-skyliner35.01.jpg
http://www.calsonic-skyline.com/gt-r/cocpit/concept_02.JPG
G35???

http://www.calsonic-skyline.com/gt-r/cocpit/concept_02.JPG
G35???

sheki mate, that's not The G35, it clearly has The GTR logo emblazened on its number plate.

From what I read when they first started talking about the Nissan Skyline R-36, they said that they were going to save the GTR for later production models.
I can see this must not be true.

actually, it doesn't look THAT bad (if they could make a few changes to it)

it looks all rough, and somewhat boxy; and if they smooth everything out and made it curvaceous (like 350Z), it would looks sorta like a 550 maranello, and the maranello doesn't look that bad does it? :D :shock: oh and btw.. i'm talking about the one in the pic above... the front end of R35 is UGLY :evil:

I like the car all around although I prefer the R34 over anything

Is it just me, or is that a model car:
http://www.nagaokaseiki.co.jp/skyline-cpv35-01.jpg
?

They arnt that bad in fact i am in the market for a new car i wonder how long until they hit Europe though.. :?:

They arnt that bad in fact i am in the market for a new car i wonder how long until they hit Europe though.. :?:No, the car in the picture. It looks like a model car you would buy at a hobby store or something :lol:

http://www.calsonic-skyline.com/gt-r/cocpit/concept_02.JPG
G35???

sheki mate, that's not The G35, it clearly has The GTR logo emblazened on its number plate.
This is the one i like and i think the one your on about they have just smudged the lens on the camera :?:

yeah, i agree, it looks sorta like the ferrari 550 maranello, which IMO looks good :)

yeah, i agree, it looks sorta like the ferrari 550 maranello, which IMO looks good :)

That car WISHES it looked like a 550 Maranello!

just smooth out the rough edges, and fix the front :)

just smooth out the rough edges, and fix the front :)
Yeah i hear ya... :)

As long as its fast I wouldn't care about the looks of the car

just smooth out the rough edges, and fix the front :)Yeah i hear ya... :)I say a whole redesign, IMO.

IMO the only thing that doesn't look "good" in this car are the front lights, but in general terms i like the G35,350 Z body style, hope they'll make one for american market, that means the steering wheel where it belongs the left side of the car.

doesn't the R35 bear a slight resemblance? :?

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/04/ferrari575m02_08.jpg

doesn't the R35 bear a slight resemblance? :? Very little

doesn't the R35 bear a slight resemblance? :? Very little

well, if you smooth out the rough edges (like i've said..) then it'll look a little more like a 550

i'd say just the taillights. but they've been that way since the eighties. both manufacturers.

i'd say just the taillights.The mufflers are in the same position too.

doesn't the R35 bear a slight resemblance? :? Very little

well, if you smooth out the rough edges (like i've said..) then it'll look a little more like a 550
8) Yeah it does but only a little though... :)

i'd say just the taillights. but they've been that way since the eighties. both manufacturers.

Ferrari has been using quad round taillamps since way before the 80's....

doesn't the R35 bear a slight resemblance? :?

You cannot compare such beautiful Italian machinary such as this.

http://www.maserati.org.au/images/EventPhotos/San0010/San0010_Michael3_F550.jpg

To this. :cry:

http://www.home.no/maxmekker/1-skyliner35.01.jpg

As I have said before, the G35 (or Skyline Coupe) was made only as a layover until the next GTR. Simply because Japanese automakers cannot make a car on the same cahssis for more than three generations, or three modles of car. The R32, R33, and R34 were all made on the same chassis, so it is time to design a new chassis, and a new car (the R35). Sadly, its going to be the hideous car shown above. Powerplant - OK, Looks - HORRIBLE! :evil:

doesn't the R35 bear a slight resemblance? :?
...As I have said before, the G35 (or Skyline Coupe) was made only as a layover until the next GTR. Simply because Japanese automakers cannot make a car on the same cahssis for more than three generations, or three modles of car. The R32, R33, and R34 were all made on the same chassis, so it is time to design a new chassis, and a new car (the R35). Sadly, its going to be the hideous car shown above. Powerplant - OK, Looks - HORRIBLE! :evil:

I don't know where you get that from, but if there is a law about how long a manufacturer can use a chassis, post it.

G35 is not the replacement for GTR. check any video game with AUTHORIZED replicas of Nissans (Sega GT Online, GT4 when it comes out) and search nissan's archives, and you will find the same thing: the Fairlady/350Z is Nissan's current "supercar" since they are not making a GTR model in this model generation. The next GTR will not be the model that you posted: that is a CONCEPT CAR, which has since gone back to be worked on further. The production model is going to have mass appeal (better headlight/taillight combo, body contours, etc.) and will more than likely be shown in 2005 or 2006 autoshows. Some guy on here already posted those press releases.

http://www.home.no/maxmekker/1-skyliner35.01.jpg

As I have said before, the G35 (or Skyline Coupe) was made only as a layover until the next GTR. Simply because Japanese automakers cannot make a car on the same cahssis for more than three generations, or three modles of car. The R32, R33, and R34 were all made on the same chassis, so it is time to design a new chassis, and a new car (the R35). Sadly, its going to be the hideous car shown above. Powerplant - OK, Looks - HORRIBLE! :evil:
This was a concept car, I'm positive this isn't gonna be the new GTR.

http://www.home.no/maxmekker/1-skyliner35.01.jpg
This was a concept car, I'm positive this isn't gonna be the new GTR.

I hope not but you never know so if there is a law about the three gen. then that is the gayest law out there.

I hope not but you never know so if there is a law about the three gen. then that is the gayest law out there.I agree. What is the purpose of that law anyway :?

yeah, at first i was really mad at Nissan for creating such an ugly evolution of the Skyline :x but i guess I'm coping with the design now because the Skyline needed to change a bit to keep enthusiasts happy. All it needs is the trademark Skyline spoiler I believe, the trademark and taillights and spoiler make the Skyline a great asset to Nissan... :D

I hope not but you never know so if there is a law about the three gen. then that is the gayest law out there.I agree. What is the purpose of that law anyway :?
Perhaps to prevent manufacturers from keeping the same chassis for many years when it becomes outdated? (safety reasons etc.?)

I hope not but you never know so if there is a law about the three gen. then that is the gayest law out there.I agree. What is the purpose of that law anyway :?Perhaps to prevent manufacturers from keeping the same chassis for many years when it becomes outdated? (safety reasons etc.?)If that is the case, why 3 :!: Make it like 10 :?

10 car generations will be like 30-40 years!!! :shock:
You don't want to have the same chassis for 40 years. :lol:

10 car generations will be like 30-40 years!!! :shock:
You don't want to have the same chassis for 40 years. :lol:It was just an example :?

I don't get it. :?
The law seems ok to me.
Whatever...

changing the chasis of a car should be the carmaker's problem, not the governments... unless it gets unsafe, or doesn't meet some crash-test rating standard :?

if they don't change the chasis, ppl won't buy it, but if car companies want sales, they know what to do.. :roll:

I'm still waiting for homeboy to post that "law" and prove me wrong.

Ford used the same frame on the mustang for 25 years, nothing wrong with that. If it works, keep it.

Most manufacturers redesign the chassis/frame after two generations because of technology, forging, construction changes, or to fix defects or annoyances in the old frame.

this law is a japanese law :wink:

this law is a japanese law :wink:

i don't care whose it is, its STUPID.

yeah, if it's good, why not keep it? :)

Somebody post a link to some official Japanese National, Prefectual, or Local government site, or some info from the Japanese manufacturers directly (on their letterhead, website, or an email with a contact phone number) that states they must change the frame after 3 generations. All this talk and no proof is just wasting bandwidth.

the z car has 4 gens...240z, 300zx (80s), 300zx (90s), 350z
so this law couldnt be right

they mean the car's frames. They believe that the japanese government regulates how long a car company can produce a frame.

Oh, to the guy who said that there will not be another Skyline GTR, read the latest Automobile Magazine, because Carlos Ghosn said the next Skyline GTR is coming to the US, and will be engineered to compete against Porsche.

Another prototype next gen. Skyline can be seen in the pages of Road & Tracks new SPEED publication. Check it out. The note from the editor speaks right to me! From what I can see of the new Skyline, its alot better than the original concept. they speculate a TT V-6 will be used. I still think Nissan should develop a new I-6 to keep with Skyline tradition. Oh well, what does my opinion count for?

I cant understand why you dont like it !!!!!!!

I thin its is very nice, but not as much as GT34 !!!!!!!!

Allthought I believe that if nissan procuse it, everybody (including you all) will love it !!!!!!!!!

Friendly, uncle****er!

Southpark, Nissan unfortunately will not produce it.
I like it too, though.
(eisai ellinas? kai metallas??)

cars, good