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khmer
Sep 18, 2003, 11:08 PM
[size=18][/sizeWhat would you recommend putting under a 95 civic's hood... a B16 turbo OR a B18 non-turbo??
Mopar68
Sep 18, 2003, 11:24 PM
I have no idea, but i'd probaly get the non turbo. It's more orginal. It's cheaper, too i'm guessing. And a turbo charged engine might be a little more finicky. Plus, the turbo might put to much power to the wheels and it might break something.
jimkk29
Sep 19, 2003, 11:22 AM
Yeah I'd also choose the non-turbo. NA engines work better and last longer, IMO.
Raith83
Sep 19, 2003, 2:20 PM
The turbo is more money + more work, but more power as well. N/A tuning is much easier(on you, your wallet AND the car). Personally I'd go for B16 turbo. I love the sound of blow-off valves :mrgreen: yeah, if you have the money and time, Turbo that sucker!
Dutchmarshall
Sep 19, 2003, 3:02 PM
I think i would chose the turbo one, but if i want the car for a long time, ill take the non turbo
Thlam
Sep 19, 2003, 5:12 PM
do any you have any actual past knowledge on these two engines? other then tubo sounding cool and non turbo sound not so very cool and becasue its a non turbo it will last longer? i mean come on we can't actually have a valid opinion on this 8unless we actually know the engine specs and what the engines are capable of
jimkk29
Sep 19, 2003, 7:06 PM
So do you know anything about them?
Dutchmarshall
Sep 19, 2003, 7:07 PM
i just said, i liked turbos more, i didnt explain why, cause i am still trying to find that car, so i can really chose
Thlam
Sep 19, 2003, 7:19 PM
no i don't know anything about these engines thats why i cna't make a clear decisive decesion, do any of you actually know anything about these engines?
jimkk29
Sep 19, 2003, 7:29 PM
I know nothing specific about these but I just made a guess. Are we not allowed to take guesses?
Mopar68
Sep 19, 2003, 10:00 PM
no. I'm just being practical. I'm stating what i think would work better.
Engo
Sep 25, 2003, 9:25 PM
hello this is my first post :oops: :oops:
:D
i had an EK4 civic ecquipped with a b18 non turbo Mugen Tuned..
here in Italy we had like onlyt 8 Honda vehicle with this type of swap, but i know that in the USA this swaps r really used...and the turbo solutions too..
the questions are... do u like a car N/A with like 10000 rpm of power range or a more "normal" car? do u agree that honda for definition MUST be N/A or not?
when u will answer at this questions u will find the solution...
that's true that the best way too gain more power is the turbo solution... BUT HorsePowers are not all...
turbo is cheeper for the result... gain Hp N/A is really hard... ( my EK4 got about 240 HP N/A with A LOOOOOT of work..)
that's all... make your choise and fly! :) :)
hope to be usefull..
cya!
Raith83
Sep 25, 2003, 10:59 PM
Mugen is hella tight! 8) A Mugen NSX would rock hard core :mrgreen:
jimkk29
Sep 26, 2003, 7:54 AM
Welcome to the forum Engo!!
Are you from Italy? We are neighbors!! :D
Well I agree that Hondas must be NA... You can't imagine how much I admire Honda for making engines such as the Civic Type-R engine (2lt, 200HP NA) and of course the S2000 engine (2lt, 240HP NA!!).
Redline at 8500rpm and 9000rpm respectively!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Takes a lot of hard engineering to do those things...
99 si trbo
Nov 12, 2003, 9:28 PM
the b18 is the stock type R civic Engine so that will run you alot of money here in the states. Plus if you wanted to tune the b18 most efficiently you will practically have to install a new transmission into your civic which is pretty expensive. Anyways the b16 turbo is a great engine and will give you much better performance than the b18. if you decide to get the b16 make sure you get a large enough intercooler to cool it or else it will blow.
Raith83
Nov 13, 2003, 2:04 AM
speaking of Mugen and Hondas........They put a Mugen/King Racing S2000 together for SEMA!!! :mrgreen: You can see pictures of this sexy gem on rsportscars.com
sr20det_swapper
Nov 14, 2003, 6:14 PM
its me mr nissan "sr20det" hahahahh ithough i hate honda civics with a passion i say to who ever is gunna get the parts or just for knowledge get the turbo hey its faster and its more reliable remember i hat the civic and im saying something good about it for once so what the hell. ya anyway you could change the psi go faster go slower don no y u woiuld want that but ya also the engine cause of manafactuer reasons the camshaft is weak and could snap so get a good reenforced on by mugen or some good company.
99 si trbo
Nov 18, 2003, 5:44 PM
Actually the better engine of the two is the b18c. Mainly because it is a newer engine which utilizes the next gen i-vtec technology better as well. It can put out up to 200 hp. But like I said earlier it is only most efficent when working with 6 gears... which you clearly dont have.
Realm II
Nov 28, 2003, 5:31 AM
Go with the b18 if you plan on turboing a stock b16 then you may want to invest in some low comp. pistions if not then then the amount of boost you can run is limited because it will blow up. but if you get the b18 you are getting a faster stronger engin and it puts you in a very good spot to build off of.
seto
Jan 01, 2004, 6:22 AM
i want to know what engine you have right now in your civic...
coz i've seen people modifying the B16 to be 1.8L or even 2.0L..
they do it by replacing the 'long block' of the engine which is the lower part..with the long block of the B18 or the 2litre engine from the CRV...
but there's lots of work to be done... all the camshaft and valves etc has to be changed and port polish to be done...
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