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McLaren F1 LM
Aug 16, 2003, 5:26 AM
it was my birth day a few week ago and my dad gave me a nissan skyline 2000 gtr r34 already modified 670 hp interior real good sound system al im going to have to bust it's to but nice seat man it's so nice i'll try to get a pic have it for you guys but that's hard since that i have to put it on a web page :D :shock:

jimkk29
Aug 16, 2003, 6:36 AM
Cool... :D

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 11:00 AM
Lucky guy!!!

mallon
Aug 16, 2003, 11:13 AM
post a pic of you and the car - thats a nice car you have there!

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 11:38 AM
and fast plz

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 11:42 AM
Well, maybe you have to scan it first and then upload it into a site and then post it here!
He has a work to do...He can't do it fast!!! :wink: :lol:

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 11:47 AM
i wanna see du 670HP beast

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 11:59 AM
LOL
Calm down my friend.You will!

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 12:06 PM
calm calm im calm

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 16, 2003, 6:07 PM
post a pic of you and the car - thats a nice car you have there!
i will but i just got off vacation and don't have a lot have time so i'll try :D

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 16, 2003, 6:15 PM
i wanna see du 670HP beast

yeah she's a beast i just went with it at a cicuit and went at 158 mph and 0-62 mph in 2.4 secs :D

mallon
Aug 16, 2003, 6:56 PM
2.4 seconds? :?
i dont know about that mate.

Ive seen skylines with more than 1000 BHP and they would have got near that - maybe 3.5 seconds at best.
You sure about hat figure?

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 16, 2003, 7:11 PM
sorry i i mist writhen i meant 4.2 :oops:

Raith83
Aug 16, 2003, 8:01 PM
This is me! ---> :mrgreen: <---
hehe, I kid, I kid, I'm NOTgreen with envy. I'm happy for you rather.
And yes, we are all dying to see a picture of it!

Schumi
Aug 17, 2003, 9:39 AM
4.2 is quite logical,,,but 2.4???What is it???F-15? :lol: :P

Thlam
Aug 19, 2003, 12:02 AM
how did you get it up in canada? what mods do you have?

mallon
Aug 19, 2003, 7:39 AM
I think McLaren now lives in France...

jimkk29
Aug 19, 2003, 9:44 AM
Still, I don't think you can get a Skyline easily if you are in France...

mallon
Aug 19, 2003, 12:15 PM
why not?
All EU contries have similar laws on cars - and you can get it here in the UK without a problem.

Thlam
Aug 19, 2003, 12:40 PM
just go grey market and import a used one from japan dude

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 19, 2003, 12:45 PM
I think McLaren now lives in France...

yeah im canadien but i now live in france but there no skyline's in france or canada but my dad works with nissan so he can get the inport 5 percent off the nissan

mallon
Aug 19, 2003, 2:46 PM
well get use a photo - id love to see the car! :D

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 19, 2003, 3:39 PM
hey guys just back from a few days holiday with friends!

well... McLaren your a lucky [censored] man!!

Really great car!!!

cannot wait to see that pic..

Greetz : Danny!

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 25, 2003, 3:56 PM
I've got the pic have my skyline, but im not doing to post it on this forum because im not uploading it on a site so give me your icq number or e-mail and i'll send it to you when i have time

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 25, 2003, 4:18 PM
--------> dannyartc155@hotmail.com <------------------:D:D

THANK U!!

greetz : Danny!

jimkk29
Aug 26, 2003, 9:19 AM
McLaren please also send it to my MSN e-mail! You know it! :wink:

Porschesarecool
Sep 03, 2003, 1:43 PM
NOt to be rude or anythign but you go 0-62 in 4.2 seconds with 670HP?!?!?!?!?!?!
A stock 2003 911 Turbo can do it in that time!!! Are you sure that is accurate????? IF it is that is pretty pathetic! NOt to be rude but a skyline with 255 more horsepower doing the same time as a stock 911, oh well what do you expect from porsche?

mallon
Sep 03, 2003, 4:20 PM
now how much does a Turbo cost? :)
Also, with alot of the high HP cars, the HP is available at different stages of the engines Rev Range, so its never as clear as more HP, quicker to 0-60.

Porschesarecool
Sep 03, 2003, 5:08 PM
Who cares how much it is. Just the fact that a porsche 911 turbo is just as fast as a 670 Hp skyline just shows that skylines arent that great.

mallon
Sep 03, 2003, 6:32 PM
So you are saying because the Skyline (stock) cant beat a porsche 911 in a straight line that it isnt a great car?
A skyline would probably beat the porsche on a circuit and the obvious fact that the Turbo is so much more expensive.

Porschesarecool
Sep 03, 2003, 10:36 PM
What the hell are you talking about mallon? I am not talking about a stock skyline. IT is not even a challenget for the 911 turbo.

I am talking about this guys 670 HP skyline beign as fast as stock 911 turbo! Is that too hard for you to understand?

POrsches are not drag cars! They are made for the track. How many porsches do you see drag racing agaisnt american cars? They are built for the track and would murder that 670 HP skyline.

Go to any porsche racing website and it is all on a circuit. That is what porsches were made to do. Tear up the twisties. A skyline will never be able to perform like a porsche.

And the skyline having a better suspension.... hahaha. I said it before and I'll say it again. IF the skyline is so great why wont they race against the germans??

mallon
Sep 04, 2003, 6:48 AM
nah, definetly not, the skyline would win on the average track - ive seen it beat things like TVR Cerbera's and Tuscan S's.
The Skyline has so many programs to keep it going in the right direction from 10's of computers. The prosche doesnt even have its engine in the right place! :)

jimkk29
Sep 04, 2003, 8:33 AM
Although I'm not really knowledgeable on the subject, it seems to me that Porschesarecool is right...

Porschesarecool
Sep 04, 2003, 11:12 AM
HAHA man mallon you crack me up. DOnt be jealous that porsches is by far better than the inferior skyline.

ANd where have you seen the porsche loose to the skyline? IN the JGTC? HA those guys are jokes i have already told you that. Until you see a real german driver go up against thoes japanese then I'll believe you but until then Porsche is still king, well except for ferrari there like neck and neck.

jimkk29
Sep 05, 2003, 4:58 PM
My own humble opinion: Porsche is still king, even better than Ferrari... :wink:
(please now let's don't get a thousand responses like: "no ferrari is best" etc... let's try to keep it on topic :) )

Thlam
Sep 07, 2003, 1:34 PM
hey porsche are cool have u read this yet.... http://press.jbskyline.net/R34/R34911EVOM5/index.php
probebly not it was a test comparison between the following
R34 Nissan Skyline GT-R,
Porsche 911 GT3,
Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI,
and BMW M5.
Done by BBC top gear quite repudable if not a bit bias towards BMW
don't call the skyline inferior a car that can develop 600hp without any internal engine parts is quite amazing.
and for you information the inferior JGTC has rougly 7 porsche 911 turbos racing in it
as for it not racing against the germans ironicly enoguh ther eis a gemran driver that races a Skyline, his name Michael Krumm, on a related note what do you know there is also a japense guy that races in teh DTM league with a mercedes Oh but whats this where is the porsche team????
and whats this again gee wizz! its not even in the European touring car championship where only BMW Alfa Romeoand Seat compete.

F1356WRCRS
Sep 07, 2003, 3:11 PM
That Skyline is pretty cool, but it could not take on a Turbo or GT3 stock. With all the extra horsepower of the one you've got, it might prove a good match, though.

Thlam
Sep 07, 2003, 3:45 PM
did u even read the article?

Porschesarecool
Sep 07, 2003, 4:07 PM
That was a pretty cool article. The cool thing is, is that the 911 GT3 is Naturally aspirated.
That is the coolest thing about that car.

I am not still not very impressed with the skyline making 600 Hp and as fast as a stock 911 turbo.

And a german guy racing the japanese.....man that is pathetic he cant race in his own country so he races with a bunch of japs.\

jimkk29
Sep 07, 2003, 6:08 PM
I read the article.
Quote: "(for the GT3) But drive it smoothly, use the right lines and none of the others here will stay with it round a race track."

So which is the fastest? :wink:

Thlam
Sep 07, 2003, 6:39 PM
That was a pretty cool article. The cool thing is, is that the 911 GT3 is Naturally aspirated.
That is the coolest thing about that car.

I am not still not very impressed with the skyline making 600 Hp and as fast as a stock 911 turbo.

And a german guy racing the japanese.....man that is pathetic he cant race in his own country so he races with a bunch of japs.\


Man you just make me laugh your impressed with a porsche turbo but not a nissan turbo LOL LOL, and if i go with your philosiphy why is Michael shumacher racing in F1 when he should just stay and race in germany? or Ruben Barichello he should just race in Brazil. I could go on and on and on

Porschesarecool
Sep 07, 2003, 11:19 PM
Man what are you talking about. The impressive thing is that the stock 911 turbo keeps up with tthat 670 Hp skyline.

And why would i be impressed witha stupid stock skyline? They suck stock.

And dotn be jealous because the GT3 is way better engineered.

Thlam
Sep 08, 2003, 5:15 PM
again you are talking absolute crap and yet again you impress me wiht your lack of intelligence thereof, A 670 hp skyline performs better if you can fine actual numbers, oh and are you not smart enoguh to look at displacement? porsche 911 GT3 3.6L vs. 2.6L of a nissan skyline so where is the better engineering you dumbshit? a 3.6L V6 or a 2.6L V6 engine that can produce the same amount of horsepower, Why don't you look up numbers for once and stop being a pathetic moron, and what about the RWD porsche and the AWD skyline whats more better for racing which gives better response? AWD!

your ignorence is pathetic whats more pathetic is that you don't care to look up the numbers or learn the cars displacement numbers and specs

oh and why don't you respond to my other question i'd be interested in hearing what you have to say

jimkk29
Sep 08, 2003, 5:55 PM
Thlam you forget two things here.
1. The Porsche is naturally aspirated, whereas the Skyline is heavily turbocharged.
2. The GT3 is stock whereas the Skyline is heavily tuned.

Thlam
Sep 08, 2003, 6:03 PM
lol hey these cars are in the same performance categories aren't they?
and twins turbos don't count as "heavily tuned"
and if you want a turbo compariosn lets put the 911 turbo into perspective but that wouldn't be fair would it? one car is more expensive then the other one

jimkk29
Sep 08, 2003, 6:09 PM
In order to get 670BHP, you have to have more than just twin turbo... and that's 'heavily tuned'. And no, stock I don't believe they are in the same performance categories...

Thlam
Sep 08, 2003, 7:05 PM
incorrect to get 670hp you tune the egine up to 600hp without any other intenral or external modifications. Then install an AEM cold air intake that adds about 15hp, add an apexi boost controller which gives you 48hp! thats 63 extra horses there with only 2 extra parts installed, now lets install a HKS exhaust that gives you roughly 27more hp so thats 90 more horsepower, in total your skyline will make 690HP for less then 3000 dollars and without any heavy modifications

jimkk29
Sep 09, 2003, 8:24 AM
incorrect to get 670hp you tune the egine up to 600hp without any other intenral or external modifications.
Oh really and how do you do that? To my knowledge, in order to get about 400 more horsepower from a car you'll have to change almost everything in the engine!!

Thlam
Sep 09, 2003, 5:02 PM
WRONG!,haven't you ever wondered why poeple call the skyline the greatest car in the world? The nissan skyline is the most tuneable car ever produced, to do that what you need to do is change the fuel mixtures, spark plug gaps, turbo timing and etc. fairly easy things to do

jimkk29
Sep 09, 2003, 6:34 PM
If true, that would be really interesting...

Thlam
Sep 09, 2003, 7:27 PM
it is true

Porschesarecool
Sep 09, 2003, 8:51 PM
ghss

Porschesarecool
Sep 09, 2003, 8:55 PM
Sorry about that i thought I might have been banned for mouthing off to the forum moderator.

I will agree with thlam that you can tune the skyline a whole lot for a good price, however just because it has a lot of horsepower doesnt mean it is the quickest car.

How much torque do those engines have at 1000 HP?

Thlam
Sep 09, 2003, 9:24 PM
it depends on which parts you use and tune, this may not be a good example but the 400R skyline has 400hp and has 353lb feet of torque. There is skyline that is tuned to 850hp with 703lb feet of torque. I can't get solid numbers but i'm gessing wiht 1000hp its something like 900 or more lb feet of torque

oh and the 400R skyline does 0-60 in 3.7 if thats not fast then i don't know what is

F1356WRCRS
Sep 10, 2003, 9:41 PM
again you are talking absolute crap and yet again you impress me wiht your lack of intelligence thereof, A 670 hp skyline performs better if you can fine actual numbers, oh and are you not smart enoguh to look at displacement? porsche 911 GT3 3.6L vs. 2.6L of a nissan skyline so where is the better engineering you dumb[censored]? a 3.6L V6 or a 2.6L V6 engine that can produce the same amount of horsepower, Why don't you look up numbers for once and stop being a pathetic moron, and what about the RWD porsche and the AWD skyline whats more better for racing which gives better response? AWD!

your ignorence is pathetic whats more pathetic is that you don't care to look up the numbers or learn the cars displacement numbers and specs

oh and why don't you respond to my other question i'd be interested in hearing what you have to say
911s have horizontaley opposed, or flat 6s, not V6s. agree that the 670 hp skyline probably will perform better against a stock 911 Turbo. And about the size of the engines and all that, the skyline is heavily modified, the 911 Turbo is stock. BTW, the 911 GT2 has the highest horsepower per liter of any production car. And the 911 Turbo is AWD, which I think just adds weight when it comes to racing, but is good on the street. I think that the 911 is also one of the most tunable cars in the world. Just look at Ruf and all the other companies that modify 911s.

Thlam
Sep 10, 2003, 11:17 PM
v6 flat 6 still a 6 cylinder car, and all wheel drive doesn't just add weight it makes the car perform better, and did u read my post on top, you don't need to heavily modify the skyline to get it large amounts of horespower. its the honda S2000 that actually has the highest horse power per litre of any production car. WIht your Example of the RUF porsche they replcaed the turbo on that car with KKK turbos, but with the skyline a stock turbo it can be tuned to 600hp wihtout any additional mods.

can you guys please stop saying the skyline has to be "heavily tuned" its incorrect and its starting to anoying me everytime i have to correct one of you guys :roll:

FR500
Sep 11, 2003, 12:26 AM
v6 flat 6 still a 6 cylinder car, and all wheel drive doesn't just add weight it makes the car perform better, and did u read my post on top, you don't need to heavily modify the skyline to get it large amounts of horespower. its the honda S2000 that actually has the highest horse power per litre of any production car. WIht your Example of the RUF porsche they replcaed the turbo on that car with KKK turbos, but with the skyline a stock turbo it can be tuned to 600hp wihtout any additional mods.

can you guys please stop saying the skyline has to be "heavily tuned" its incorrect and its starting to anoying me everytime i have to correct one of you guys :roll:

Crap crap crap, Skyline is great, very tuneable, as for racing on a track RWD is kinda better, AWD needs more care to the clutch and RWD responsiveness is better, a stock Turbo would beat a modded skyline at Nur for example, but on a long straight track the more hp the better, also, about tunning, turbos have a hell lot of potentiall, most porsche engines can produce 700hp, then they get civilized for street use, porsches are better engineerd, and skylines are good, but too much gran turismo, gran turismo raised its fame, any car can go fast on staights, you can get an elantra to race 10's in a quarter with some money so who cares about straight line performance.

Skyline, the best car in the world........ugh where do you live

jimkk29
Sep 11, 2003, 5:56 AM
The S2000 has the highest HP/lt (120) for naturally aspirated cars.
When you go into turbos, then it's the GT2 (128.3).

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Sep 11, 2003, 7:31 AM
hey wait
now i don't understand something anymore.....

Naturally aspirated is as an car STOCK have's NO turbo's is not supercharged etc..???

The Porsche have's stock an Turbo so it isn't a Naturally aspirated car is it?

Greetz : Danny!

jimkk29
Sep 11, 2003, 9:50 AM
Yes that's what I said.

Naturally aspirated (NA) = NO turbos/superchargers

The GT2 is not NA.

Thlam
Sep 11, 2003, 10:03 AM
the 911 turbo is not naturally aspired hence the name turbo. But the Porsche GT2 is and the GT3 is naturally aspired.

most porsche engines can produce 700hp, then they get civilized for street use,

I love the GT2 and 3 but in every single auto review they these cars are great too but the only problem is that when you get off the track the GT2 and 3 still act like it is on the race track still. where as the skyline can be driven on a race track and you can have a fairly comfortable drive home in it too, So a porsche GT3 or 2 can't really be civilised for street use that much

AWD is by far better then RWD, the only advantage is that a RWD car can let its tires spin more easily and donuts are more easy with RWD too. AWD does not need more care to the clutch, AWD is computer controlled in most cases so how is it that you need to be more gentle on the clutch you don't its the same as driving any car. If you take a car like the NIssan SKyline 400R and the porsche 911 GT3 the 400R would win it accelerates faster then the GT3 cup; 3.7 seconds vs. the 4.5 of the GT3 and as for top speed the 400R tps 198mph as for the porsche GT3 topping out at 188mph.

I think you have been playing gran turismo a bit too much everyone has known about the Skyline before the game has ever come out. The winning history of the skyline is what makes it so great. Evem though its in gran turismo, Nissan doesn't even use gran turismo in its advertising campaigns. Porsche has its own game too need for speed 5, has porsche ever used that in any advertising campaings no (well kinda on their website awhile ago). but did this game raise the fame of porsche no. porsches rich history did.

Ghalos
Sep 11, 2003, 11:45 AM
Hey, this is my first post, EVER!!! Woohoo, i signed up to shut up this porschephile...

1)"Why don't they race the Skyline???"
Answer, they, Nissan DID, from the 60's to the late 80's, it absolutely dominated the Japanesse GT...
2)The porsche vs. the skyline track competition, any Prosche would get trounced by a 670+hp GT-R...I'd even included the 70's 935 "Moby Dick" racer, the 911 GT1 race car, the GT2, and even the current Carrera GT...

I'm not a Japanesse car fanatic, hell, I'd rather have my Ford Probe than an import, certain models excluded of course...I almost bought a used Porsche 944 Turbo S, "951" for some of you...I didn't because it had some mechanical problems that would've cost me thousands to fix, namely, fused piston rings to cylinder walls...Anyways, Porsches are far more impressive stock, but when you spend 90 grand to import a skyline to the U.S.(AND YES THEY ARE LEGAL NOW!!!!) and toss down another 60 grand for newer turbo's, cams, cpu upgrades, chassis lightening, and a handfull of other things the total comes to roughly 170,000 max...a GT2 costs about the same...the GT2 is more prestigious sure, and far more attractive, but a 1300 horsepower GT-R will tear a twin-turbo 996 911 GT2 to bits...

So, get off the "Porsches are invincible platform" and recognize the truth that a 670hp skyline would beat any car from Stuttgarts factory...

Porschesarecool
Sep 11, 2003, 3:56 PM
Hey galos who cares about japanese GT, we all know it is not as good as the european racing. Ive stated that ever since i started posting. ANd horsepower isnt everything when you are racing on a track, everyone knows that.

The GT2 is not naturally aspirated. It comes twin turboed. I agree that AWD is better becuase I was watching a speed GTS race in europe and they were at the starting line two M3's were in front and an audi was behind. When the race started The RS6 totally launched ahead of the two in front and stayed in first for a while til porsche eventually passed. They do make AWD for porsches as well. The 996 TT comes awd and it is crazy.

So what is this 400R nissan thing? Do you have any good websites so I can check it out??? 0-60 in 3.7 is crazy!

Ghalos
Sep 11, 2003, 4:28 PM
Euro racing is definitely better, but a skyline has handling on par with a carrera, most likely better once the upgrades, shocks, sway bars, etc...are in place...


NOW!!!! To make EVERYONE happy!

Twelve Porsches and the lone Skyline GT-R were the first cars to the Washington D.C. checkpoint in the 2002 Gumball 3000 Rally...they beat 35 some odd ferrari's including an f-50, and dozens of other cars....there, now we can all get some coffee and cars of our choice go for our OWn rally, I call the McLaren F1-LM!!!! and two hot models... 8)

Porschesarecool
Sep 11, 2003, 4:51 PM
Hey gallos about your 1300 Hp skyline vs a stock 911 of course they will win. HOwever I would like to see a tuned porshce go against them on the track.

Thlam
Sep 11, 2003, 5:49 PM
porschearecool stop bashing the JGTC its a great league you don't even have the right to bash it if you have never even seen a race. and if you bash it then your bashing the other 7 porsche 911s racing in it too

jimkk29
Sep 11, 2003, 6:24 PM
But the Porsche GT2 is and the GT3 is naturally aspired.
Uh oh, I got you there... The GT3 definitely is NA, but the GT2 has a HUUUUUGE turbo!!

Thlam
Sep 11, 2003, 6:28 PM
you didn't get me anywhere.....i said the gt3 is na and the gt2 is turbo whats wrong with that?

jimkk29
Sep 11, 2003, 6:32 PM
Read your post again.

You wrote: "the 911 turbo is not naturally aspired hence the name turbo. But the Porsche GT2 is and the GT3 is naturally aspired."

(aspired = aspirated)

Thlam
Sep 11, 2003, 7:11 PM
yes......the gt2 is turboed whats wrong?

jimkk29
Sep 11, 2003, 7:37 PM
You phrased it wrong... anyway, nevermind.

Thlam
Sep 11, 2003, 7:46 PM
lol :lol:

mallon
Sep 12, 2003, 8:00 AM
You phrased it wrong... anyway, nevermind.

no he didnt?!?!

W8INLINE
Sep 12, 2003, 2:17 PM
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Thlam
Sep 12, 2003, 3:30 PM
hey is that logo new or have i never seen it before?

F1356WRCRS
Sep 12, 2003, 7:34 PM
v6 flat 6 still a 6 cylinder car, and all wheel drive doesn't just add weight it makes the car perform better, and did u read my post on top, you don't need to heavily modify the skyline to get it large amounts of horespower. its the honda S2000 that actually has the highest horse power per litre of any production car. WIht your Example of the RUF porsche they replcaed the turbo on that car with KKK turbos, but with the skyline a stock turbo it can be tuned to 600hp wihtout any additional mods.

can you guys please stop saying the skyline has to be "heavily tuned" its incorrect and its starting to anoying me everytime i have to correct one of you guys :roll:
The S2000 has the highest horespower per liter of any non-turbocharged car. The GT2 makes 132.5 horspower per liter, compared to the s2000's 109.1 horses per liter. Those specs are for 2004 models. I never said that AWD is bad, it makes a big difference on the street, especially in rough conditions. I just don't like AWD for race cars. Just look at how many AWD race cars there are; almost none.

F1356WRCRS
Sep 12, 2003, 7:39 PM
Hey, this is my first post, EVER!!! Woohoo, i signed up to shut up this porschephile...

1)"Why don't they race the Skyline???"
Answer, they, Nissan DID, from the 60's to the late 80's, it absolutely dominated the Japanesse GT...
2)The porsche vs. the skyline track competition, any Prosche would get trounced by a 670+hp GT-R...I'd even included the 70's 935 "Moby Dick" racer, the 911 GT1 race car, the GT2, and even the current Carrera GT...

I'm not a Japanesse car fanatic, hell, I'd rather have my Ford Probe than an import, certain models excluded of course...I almost bought a used Porsche 944 Turbo S, "951" for some of you...I didn't because it had some mechanical problems that would've cost me thousands to fix, namely, fused piston rings to cylinder walls...Anyways, Porsches are far more impressive stock, but when you spend 90 grand to import a skyline to the U.S.(AND YES THEY ARE LEGAL NOW!!!!) and toss down another 60 grand for newer turbo's, cams, cpu upgrades, chassis lightening, and a handfull of other things the total comes to roughly 170,000 max...a GT2 costs about the same...the GT2 is more prestigious sure, and far more attractive, but a 1300 horsepower GT-R will tear a twin-turbo 996 911 GT2 to bits...

So, get off the "Porsches are invincible platform" and recognize the truth that a 670hp skyline would beat any car from Stuttgarts factory...
There is no way that a 670+ hp gt-r could beat a gt1or a gt2 or a carrera gt or a 935 or a 917. If you can get all those cars and and race them on a track and the gt-r doesn't have the worst lap times, then I will give you a million dollars. BTW, the GT3 can do 0-60 better than 4.5 seconds. I'd say atleast 4.3. That's the factory number, and they are way conservative.

Thlam
Sep 13, 2003, 9:46 AM
you don't have a million dollars :lol: , a 600hp+ gt-r can take any porsche on. and the factory numbers for a porsche are 4.5 seconds from 0-60 and top speed at 190
http://www2.uk.porsche.com/english/gbr/911/gt3/default.htm
so the actualy numbers are probebly in 4.3s either way id have to go wiht my example of the 400r again, a 2.6L 400hp skyline can keep up with a 3.6L 381 hp porsche easily

F1356WRCRS
Sep 13, 2003, 10:13 AM
Can it really take on a 1200+, 1500 pound 1971 917? Or a 600+ horspower GT1? They both have won LeMans, despite being production cars. Your right, I don't have a million dollars, but I'm right anyway.

Thlam
Sep 13, 2003, 10:24 AM
can a porsche GT3 or 2 take on the 917 or GT1? no they cannot, can a skyline take it on no they cannot, To qualify for lemans the car has to be a production car, but if one one is made then sold it still counts. These are lemans cars no one can take these on. If you are asking me a quesiton on those lines then i ask you can a porsche GT2 or 3 take on a nissan R390 no!, these cars are not even in the same category

F1356WRCRS
Sep 13, 2003, 7:56 PM
It doesn't have to be a production car. The last 5 winning cars weren't production cars. But anyway, I think that a GT2 could take on that Skyline. I would like to see such a matchup.

Thlam
Sep 13, 2003, 8:50 PM
For the Gt and GTS category they must be production cars, i remember awhile ago that for the other classes they had to be production cars are soemthing i'm not that sure but i'll look into it more.

A 911 GT2 vs a 400hp skyline would be quite interesting, but i'd put my money on the skyline

F1356WRCRS
Sep 14, 2003, 9:10 AM
For GT and GTS they have to be. At some points all the cars had to be production. Does anyone have some specs for a 400 horsepower Skyline?

Porschesarecool
Sep 15, 2003, 12:01 AM
The GT2 would take the 400Hp skyline. The GT2 has 456 HP and 457 lb ft of torque.

Thlam
Sep 15, 2003, 7:22 PM
actually the GT2 has 483hp and when compared with a 400hp skyline that does 0-60 in 3.7, the GT2 does it in 4.0 which is the factory time so it probebly does it in 3.7 also as for top speed the porsche is factory rated at 192mph and the 400R skyline is rated at 198mph. It would be very interesting to see this match up but these cars are at the most EVENLY MATCHED

shanemb3 (USA)
Sep 16, 2003, 1:57 AM
Has anyone seen a pic of this Skyline or what?????

Thlam
Sep 16, 2003, 10:32 PM
This was a very limitedly built skyline R33 model even though its old now it still is very technologicly advanced. probebly is the most horse power per litre turbo produciton car: 153.8 Hp per litre, it shares the same engine as the newer R34 so thats why i've used it in contrast when comparing the R34 GT-R with the porsche 911 GT2
http://www.ai.wakwak.com/~nismo/400r.jpg

FR500
Sep 17, 2003, 1:28 AM
actually the GT2 has 483hp and when compared with a 400hp skyline that does 0-60 in 3.7, the GT2 does it in 4.0 which is the factory time so it probebly does it in 3.7 also as for top speed the porsche is factory rated at 192mph and the 400R skyline is rated at 198mph. It would be very interesting to see this match up but these cars are at the most EVENLY MATCHED

Not liquely, i insist, GT2 has a better race llike configuration, RWD is good at a track, AWD would benefit on low traction conditions, and could *maybe* give the advantage at launch, but with race tires is not very likely, GT2 is a demon, the difference with the skyline is that it actually requieres skill to be driven accurately, the skyline would be a bit easier

Ghalos
Sep 17, 2003, 9:42 AM
Woohoo for the frickin' GT2!!!! You spent 182grand on a car...it comes base (if such a word is applicable to a porsche) with 2 turbo's and race-tuned suspension...Do you know what a reasonably experienced buyer of an r-34 could do to his car to smoke a GT2?? 1)like I said before, 1000 horsepower for 20 grand...sooo...that's a $125,000 skyline, hmmm...for 57thousand I imagine the car's body could be re-done in fiberglass, and the suspension re-worked for higher speed handling...i stand by my convictions, an r-34 would beat all those porsches i mentioned before

AND HEY!!! THIS WHOLE TOPIC STARTED CUZ A GUY THAT'S LIKE 20 GOT A ****ING SKYLINE....!!!! soooo...CONGRATS!!!

the question to all of us is, what do we drive??

Answer, a 1993 Ford Probe Sports Edition :)

Porschesarecool
Sep 17, 2003, 3:14 PM
Dang that is a nice looking skyline.

Mopar68
Sep 17, 2003, 3:28 PM
Better than what i drive. I drive a Schwin. Any way, when are we going to see any pics of this Skyline? I'd really like to see this. I mean, how many kids get a 600+hp from there dads on there birthday?

Thlam
Sep 17, 2003, 5:04 PM
actually the GT2 has 483hp and when compared with a 400hp skyline that does 0-60 in 3.7, the GT2 does it in 4.0 which is the factory time so it probebly does it in 3.7 also as for top speed the porsche is factory rated at 192mph and the 400R skyline is rated at 198mph. It would be very interesting to see this match up but these cars are at the most EVENLY MATCHED

Not liquely, i insist, GT2 has a better race llike configuration, RWD is good at a track, AWD would benefit on low traction conditions, and could *maybe* give the advantage at launch, but with race tires is not very likely, GT2 is a demon, the difference with the skyline is that it actually requieres skill to be driven accurately, the skyline would be a bit easier

They skyline is one of the most easy cars to hadel its been called a "playstation on wheels" as for a porsche you must treat it wiht car and it is sometimes unforgiving when taken to the limits but wiht the skyline is forgives you very easily

RiceBoy
Oct 18, 2003, 8:49 PM
man, id be luky to get a yugo from my dad lol :D :D :D

Thlam
Oct 18, 2003, 9:44 PM
that would actually be cool yugos rock!

Schumi
Oct 19, 2003, 7:34 AM
This was a very limitedly built skyline R33 model even though its old now it still is very technologicly advanced. probebly is the most horse power per litre turbo produciton car: 153.8 Hp per litre, it shares the same engine as the newer R34 so thats why i've used it in contrast when comparing the R34 GT-R with the porsche 911 GT2
Very nice Skyline there Thlam.Thanks for that pic... :wink:

F1356WRCRS
Oct 19, 2003, 4:34 PM
actually the GT2 has 483hp and when compared with a 400hp skyline that does 0-60 in 3.7, the GT2 does it in 4.0 which is the factory time so it probebly does it in 3.7 also as for top speed the porsche is factory rated at 192mph and the 400R skyline is rated at 198mph. It would be very interesting to see this match up but these cars are at the most EVENLY MATCHED
The new factory top speed is 198, but top speed doesn't really matter. And I've never seen a test of the 456 hp GT2 that has had a 0-60 time of more than 3.7 seconds. The new one should be able to do 0-60 in 3.5. Also, the old one had the fastest lap of the Nurbering (something like that, lol) for production vehicles. The new one has an even more agressive susupension setup, and more power and should be able to go much faster. Anyway, it would be a good match to see a modified Skyline versus a GT2, but I would bet on the GT2.
Woohoo for the frickin' GT2!!!! You spent 182grand on a car...it comes base (if such a word is applicable to a porsche) with 2 turbo's and race-tuned suspension...Do you know what a reasonably experienced buyer of an r-34 could do to his car to smoke a GT2?? 1)like I said before, 1000 horsepower for 20 grand...sooo...that's a $125,000 skyline, hmmm...for 57thousand I imagine the car's body could be re-done in fiberglass, and the suspension re-worked for higher speed handling...i stand by my convictions, an r-34 would beat all those porsches i mentioned before
So the GT2 is expensive. There are less than ten cars in the world that can beat it, and most of which cost twice as much. And as far as modifying a Skyline, you could do that to pretty much any car, and it would be the fastest thing on four wheels,so who cares. And that Skyline defintely couldn't beat any of those Porsches. It's a waste of time to keep argueing, so why don't you find the lap times from a modified Skyline, and of the Porsche GT2 or GT3. I'd be willing to bet that the Skyline loses.

jimkk29
Oct 19, 2003, 5:49 PM
I completely agree with the above post.