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zodiac
Aug 15, 2003, 10:47 AM
So wats ur best TVR

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 15, 2003, 12:02 PM
i love the tvrdon't know the model but check it out can some =body tell me what model it is thanks here's a pic
http://www.tvr-webmart.co.uk/tvr_gallery/tus-r-03.jpg
very nice one to is the tuscan s very nice and i find black and red is the best colour for this car here's a pic
http://www.tvr-webmart.co.uk/tvr_gallery/tus-r-04.jpg
and now my favorite one is the tvr 100 veri nice best colour for this model is yellow just check it out here's a pic
http://www.tvr-webmart.co.uk/tvr_gallery/tam-05.jpg

and the older one's are nice 2 just look at this one here's a pic
http://www.tvr-webmart.co.uk/tvr_gallery/chim01.jpg
:D

zodiac
Aug 15, 2003, 12:24 PM
i luv du Tuscan S and du T350

jimkk29
Aug 15, 2003, 1:10 PM
I think they're all very nice.

Schumi
Aug 15, 2003, 6:40 PM
Cerbera for me.God this car is great!!! :lol: I like Speed 12 also!!!Very good engine and it can reach Veyron with 399km/h top speed!!! :shock:

mallon
Aug 15, 2003, 7:33 PM
McLaren, did you call the Yellow TVR the TVR 100? I think its only called the Tamora!

Anyways, the 440R looks to be the best TVR yet.

DarkVenom666
Aug 15, 2003, 8:52 PM
My personal fave is the Speed 12. It's definately in my top 10 of most desired cars.

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 16, 2003, 4:45 AM
yeah i agree the speed 12 is very nice and performant that's one have my fav tvr :D

jimkk29
Aug 16, 2003, 6:42 AM
Could someone post some pics of the Speed 12?

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 11:10 AM
i think mclaren or mallon wud have sum

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 11:14 AM
Here it is...:
TVR Speed 12:http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/speed12.jpg
or its back:http://www.fast-autos.net/tvr/speed122.jpg

Great huh???
Look at this now!!!
General Information
Price: $245,000
Miles Per Gallon: --/-- mpg
Curb Weight: 2205 lbs
Layout: Front-Engine/RWD
Transmission: 5-Speed Manual
Engine
Type: V12
Displacement: 7730 cc
Horsepower: 800 bhp @ 7250 rpm
Torque: 650 lb-ft @ 5750 rpm
Redline: 8000 rpm
Performance
0-60 mph: 3.5 sec
0-100 mph: 6.3 sec

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 11:29 AM
is tat a speed 12 i didnt think it look like tat

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 11:32 AM
This is the Speed 12!!!That's for sure!Trust me! :wink: :lol:

mallon
Aug 16, 2003, 11:32 AM
http://www.pistonheads.com/tvr/tvr/images/speed12-06.jpg

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 11:35 AM
i think tats a speed 12

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 11:37 AM
It's the same car with different lights!Post a rear pic of this purple Speed 12 to see!What do think??I think that the Speed 12 is a modified version of Cerbera by TVR.That's my opinion!It seems like this anyway! :wink:

mallon
Aug 16, 2003, 11:38 AM
i think tats a speed 12

dpont worry - its definetly a speed 12

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 11:45 AM
it looks sweet but i hate du rear

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 12:00 PM
What about its engine???Isn't it great?NA for ever@@@!

zodiac
Aug 16, 2003, 12:04 PM
it shud be supercharged and 4WD

Schumi
Aug 16, 2003, 12:27 PM
No,its great like this!NA are better engines!!! :wink:

mallon
Aug 16, 2003, 1:44 PM
it shud be supercharged and 4WD

nah, if its a TVR it has to be FR on only FR. No exceptions! 8)

FR500
Aug 16, 2003, 6:38 PM
TVR's are nice, btw the Speed 12 is very very fast, great car, but it's too fierce, and i dont think its based on the cerbera, it was born as a race car, later modified for road use (still with full roll cages), i dont know much about the newer, but i remember when i had GT2 i researched a lot on the brand, the Cerbera, the Tuscan Speed 6, and all the others (Chimaera, Griffith) were great, as fasr as i can remember, very nicely developed engines and great chassis balance

Update: My mistake, the Speed 12 is based or at least shares some architecture on the Cerbera, it's full name is Cerbera Speed 12

Schumi
Aug 17, 2003, 9:50 AM
I told you!!! :wink: :P

jimkk29
Aug 17, 2003, 11:07 AM
All I can say is this: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: .......
(this :shock: multiplied 479.826.589.276.489.198.492 times)

DarkVenom666
Aug 17, 2003, 12:08 PM
Remember, there are 2 Speed 12's. Most people confuse them. The Speed 12 is shown on Schumi's pics, the Cerbera Speed 12 is shown on Mallon's pic.

Great huh???
Horsepower: 800 bhp @ 7250 rpm


Actually, it has over 1000hp ( not kidding. ). It was dyno-tested once. The meter said 1000hp, when it broke down.

Schumi
Aug 17, 2003, 1:52 PM
I think that the real power of this car is somewhere like 800-850 hp!!!Not many more!
I am saying that because of the acceleration.It is so little for 1000hp car.Right?

jimkk29
Aug 17, 2003, 3:01 PM
Yes, I also think so. Besides, how could you produce 1000+ HP without turbochargers?

DarkVenom666
Aug 17, 2003, 3:52 PM
I understand both of you. I didn't believe it the first time i heard it too. But this story is told on many sites i've been. Maybe it isn't true, maybe it is. I don't know as well. I just told you what i heard. I think you guys made me doubt about this.... :roll:

Schumi
Aug 18, 2003, 8:38 AM
:? The car companies(Not like TVR and exotic cars)tells the hp of their cars exactly.I think that only marques like Ferrari,TVR,Lambo's and marques like these don't tell the truth about the hp of their cars.The most of the times companies like them lie!!!

jimkk29
Aug 18, 2003, 11:01 AM
What exactly do you mean?

Schumi
Aug 18, 2003, 11:57 AM
Ahhhh,you will not understand.I can't say it in English!You didn't make a point of these??
:(

Raith83
Aug 18, 2003, 4:58 PM
You can get at least 1,000 hp out of a N/AEngine...it just has to be pretty big. I've seen them in magazines, namely the Hot Rod mag. my room mate gets. If you want to know more, start another topic in Technical or something and we can all take a look into this engine aspect. I'm too busy right now :wink:

Raith83
Aug 18, 2003, 5:06 PM
Maybe Schumi is talking about when someone talks aobut the ENGINES power output as opposed to what power gets to the wheels(bhp vs to the wheel hp?)(claimed power maybe?). Maybe they do exagerate or make some sort of enviroment that allows the dynos to get basically stacked readings or yeah, they might just upright lie. I wouldn't be suprised, but I'd think car magazines and other testers would find them out very soon after a car is released.

Schumi
Aug 18, 2003, 5:29 PM
If you power from a NA engine the only thing you have to do is to get more rpm on theri engines.Just like Formula1 and bikes!!!That's my opinion

mallon
Aug 18, 2003, 6:25 PM
more rmp is a result of more power - not the source of it!

Raith83
Aug 18, 2003, 7:01 PM
yeah, it's like saying "if you want a car with more power, make it go faster!" :lol: Sorry, I'm just kiddin around. :o

FR500
Aug 19, 2003, 2:22 AM
more rmp is a result of more power - not the source of it!

I don't think you are right, power is not even the output, the engine outputs torque, nothing else, power is a function of torque and rpm, so power is dependant from rpm, while rpm doesnt depend on torque.

Therefore higher rpms cause power output to increase, to make engine rew higher you need to lighten the components, have better quality materials and better air/fuel mixture, also polished intakes and exhaust and that kind of stuff helps

mallon
Aug 19, 2003, 7:22 AM
I think we are using the word power in 2 different ways here.
You are right in what you have said.
I used the word power in a bad way there. I used power in the sense of e.g. the engine producing more energy in a given time, with more efficent combustion/bigger cylinder.
And so this would give higher RMP.

jimkk29
Aug 19, 2003, 10:32 AM
I think you're all right here.

Schumi
Aug 19, 2003, 4:11 PM
I think that if you want to give more torque on a car you just have to make a more lt. engine.

FR500
Aug 20, 2003, 3:09 AM
I think we are using the word power in 2 different ways here.
You are right in what you have said.
I used the word power in a bad way there. I used power in the sense of e.g. the engine producing more energy in a given time, with more efficent combustion/bigger cylinder.
And so this would give higher RMP.

Gotcha there, but the matter is i think the guy was reffering as power.........power, torque*3.14*gear_ratio*rpm i think that is the formula, i dont really remember, therefore, more rpm produce more power, if you build and engine able to rev higher it will generate bigger power output.

We shouldn't confuse people 8) :wink:

mallon
Aug 20, 2003, 9:16 AM
We shouldn't confuse people 8) :wink:

lol... it sorted now so we'll leave it.

jimkk29
Aug 20, 2003, 9:43 AM
:arrow: FR500: I don't think gear ratios have anything to do with the torque-power function...

Schumi
Aug 20, 2003, 12:43 PM
Especially in high bhp cars.If the car is low hp like my Punto the gear ratio can give some acceleration or top speed.It can give in all cars but especially in low bhp cars!

mallon
Aug 20, 2003, 1:51 PM
Especially in high bhp cars.If the car is low hp like my Punto the gear ratio can give some acceleration or top speed.It can give in all cars but especially in low bhp cars!

r u taking about gear ratios here? If so, i dont think what youve said is right.

Schumi
Aug 20, 2003, 5:54 PM
Yes,as Jim said,the power of the car isn't depends by the gear ratios but if you have a low bhp car and good gear ratio you'll get a finest result.I can't say it in English better.Sorry. :cry:

FR500
Aug 21, 2003, 3:20 AM
:arrow: FR500: I don't think gear ratios have anything to do with the torque-power function...

It does, even wheel ratio counts (i'm talking about power to the wheels)

jimkk29
Aug 21, 2003, 7:21 AM
Oh sorry, I was talking about horsepower at the crankshaft.

mallon
Aug 21, 2003, 8:30 AM
well why if FR500 mentioned gear ratio? :roll: