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vanquish-evil34
Nov 16, 2004, 11:23 AM
:cool: drifting takes practice and lots of techniques. wut do u think of racing in the streets??
vanquish-evil34
Nov 16, 2004, 11:25 AM
nobody races on the streets except for some others i no
Ghalos
Nov 16, 2004, 12:18 PM
Hmmm...
My opinion on streetracing stays the same, and since this question is asked pretty often I've been able to summarize my answer pretty nicely.
1-If it's "stop light" racing, that's just drag racing, and as such, take it to a sanctioned strip.
2-If it's that crap that was in 2Ass2Foolish that's just flat out stupidity, and if you take part in it, you're a dumbass. Simple as that.
*Now, I can appreciate a velocity laden trip down a two laner in the countryside, where nobody else is...But try to keep it on a track with people who have actual skill. Driving on the street like certain movies portray isn't skill, it's just knee-jerk reaction.
Tharos
Nov 16, 2004, 10:48 PM
Drifting in races is among the stupidest things you can do.
I don't street race as much as I used to do. Tyres are too expensive.
Each Michelin Pilot Sport in my car's measurement is over U$S300.
The closest thing we (me and a couple of friends) do here is get our cars and go to a mountain road on thursdays and race along that road.
But we drift only when it's time to change tyres. The reason for this is because 320hp literally eat up your tyres.
But if you ask me about advice on street racing... Don't do it. and ifyou're gonna do it dont stand on your brakes while turning, try to keep all 4 wheels on the dround and always keep traction.
Dimitris
Nov 17, 2004, 5:53 AM
the stop lights is the most <<safe>> street race!
the rest are too dangerous...i like it but what heppens if an other car comes from the other side of the lane and you are in his lane because the turn was too hard....?
maybe you want to kill yourself ! the other?
vanquish-evil34
Nov 18, 2004, 11:19 AM
fine maybe the drifting is bad but street light racing is as the other guy said <<safer>> than just downright street racing through the streets. basically....
Tharos
Nov 19, 2004, 1:10 PM
Street light racing, if it's from block to block, I couldn't even pull second gear. I find it way too boring. And if you're gonna pass red lights, it's more axciting, but too dangerous. You never know when a maniac just like you can intercept you at a corner. If you don´t have the posibility to go to a real racing track like we do, try to find a far away ashpalt line over a mile long, and there you can have fun.
However, if you like racing through trafic, or city racing (it sometimes is really fun) do it when it's really early, so that all drunk drivers are gone, and there aren't many cars that can represent danger.
We used to do this on Mondays a around 7am. this way we can ignore all traffic signs and lights.
But, I recomend going some place far from populated areas.
Lancer 3v0 MR
Nov 19, 2004, 8:12 PM
What car do you have Tharos?
Kirstyn
Nov 19, 2004, 10:30 PM
he has a e36 3 series
Tharos
Nov 19, 2004, 11:01 PM
ckg690 is right, it's a 100% standard 1998 E36 M3 SMG. I already know what ckg690 drives, that's a hell of a car. What do you drive?
Dimitris
Nov 20, 2004, 12:09 PM
come on you don't have any stop light with big distanse from the other!!!????
Tharos
Nov 21, 2004, 12:03 PM
Yes we do, but, there aren't many of those. It's more common to see from block to block, this really sucks.
However, next week a new traffic regulation is coming out.
Once passed 11pm, all mayor street lights will be green and yellow (blinking at the same time), this means that you can go pass them without any concern because non mayor streets will have the same blinking, but with yellow and red, meaning that they can pass, but first have to make sure that there are no cars approching through the mayor street. I think this is going to be exciting.
RedBull
Dec 15, 2004, 4:12 AM
Drifting in races is among the stupidest things you can do.
I don't street race as much as I used to do. Tyres are too expensive.
Each Michelin Pilot Sport in my car's measurement is over U$S300.
The closest thing we (me and a couple of friends) do here is get our cars and go to a mountain road on thursdays and race along that road.
But we drift only when it's time to change tyres. The reason for this is because 320hp literally eat up your tyres.
But if you ask me about advice on street racing... Don't do it. and ifyou're gonna do it dont stand on your brakes while turning, try to keep all 4 wheels on the dround and always keep traction.
For drift you need to hard ass tires it won't get used as much...
i've never been in a car while doing a drift buyt i have been to some places where drift races were going on... i rather, time races or drags...
Cossycan
Dec 20, 2004, 10:42 AM
Where i live street races go on at a local town cenre a car does a lap through the village seing a car he wants to race go's up his arse flashs his lights and lets go. the race go's staight through the town where people are drinking and crossing the road to get to pubs all times of the night. This has been going on for many years and the race gos on through to a long staight and a couple of high speed bends leading into a very scary fast Welsh A road, where race decides on whos crashed first or slower car gives up.[-X [-X [-X
Cossycan
Dec 20, 2004, 10:44 AM
I mean straight:D
Ghalos
Dec 20, 2004, 11:25 AM
Mmm...Now that my friends is stupid...Pure and utter stupidity...Take it to the track and beat someone, get OFFICIAL lap times and trophies...Sheesh. :rolleyes:
Cossycan
Dec 20, 2004, 1:43 PM
stupid for the people who do it, aswell as dangerous for everybody else i agree with you. Did I say I did it?:mad:
Ghalos
Dec 20, 2004, 2:31 PM
I wasn't saying you did, just those that do...Nothin' more. :)
Maverick05x
Jan 04, 2005, 10:41 PM
Well I agree that flat out street racing like in 2f2f is pure idiocy and drifting on public roads is just begging for trouble.. However I often find myself being challenged by vettes and camaros and porsches, and every asian in ft. lauderdale with an integra or hopped up civic and to be flat out honest many times I just cant resist. However we have longer distance street lights here some over a mile in length. Most of the time I take my racing to the highway tho. I prefer the sawgrass expressway over the city streets any day.
TwinTurboBliss
Jan 06, 2005, 1:22 AM
I have and do race on the streets. For those of you who say it's "not safe" you are completely wrong. It's just as safe as racing at a strip. I do not and will not race from a stop light or even from a stop. I have my personal reasons for this and 1 is safety. I race on a 3 lane stretch of road that is devided from the other side with a median and a rail. We moastly race from 40MPH to about 120MPH. We do this because there will be no cars intersecting our street, it's impossible to go into the other lane and it's also impossible to hit a person because there are none. We are pretty quiet about it have never been hassled about it.
Another reason it's just as safe as the drag strip is because all of us are "seasoned" racers. I regularly attend track events and every so often hit the strip. EVERYBODY I race is the same way. The slowest car of the bunch is a Ford Lightning and a SC'ed Mustang.
We do not race everybody who revs at us sitting at a street light. I would gain no pride by bragging that my 440HP car just laid the smackdown to a 120HP civic with a 3 foot wing.
Malin
Jan 06, 2005, 8:23 AM
I have and do race on the streets. For those of you who say it's "not safe" you are completely wrong. It's just as safe as racing at a strip. I do not and will not race from a stop light or even from a stop. I have my personal reasons for this and 1 is safety. I race on a 3 lane stretch of road that is devided from the other side with a median and a rail. We moastly race from 40MPH to about 120MPH. We do this because there will be no cars intersecting our street, it's impossible to go into the other lane and it's also impossible to hit a person because there are none. We are pretty quiet about it have never been hassled about it.
Another reason it's just as safe as the drag strip is because all of us are "seasoned" racers. I regularly attend track events and every so often hit the strip. EVERYBODY I race is the same way. The slowest car of the bunch is a Ford Lightning and a SC'ed Mustang.
We do not race everybody who revs at us sitting at a street light. I would gain no pride by bragging that my 440HP car just laid the smackdown to a 120HP civic with a 3 foot wing.
are you drunk or just stupied? there is alott off safety regulations and protection like old tires and sand to slow down the car before going into the protection rail on a race strip. but on a road you have concrete or a person walking along the road
the driver off this Nissan 300ZX did hit a lamppost during a street-racing and the car caught on Fire the driver where burned to death inside the car
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0207/17/NYHETER-17s16-streetrace-6_368.jpg
Joso
Jan 06, 2005, 2:28 PM
I have luck for being so near of the Gran Prix of Barcelona circuit, but think is ok to have some fun going to the mountain roads near barcelona. I mean not racing!! just a few "sport" corners. In adition, my car is not a supercar :p Just a 2.0 primera :)
TwinTurboBliss
Jan 06, 2005, 10:24 PM
are you drunk or just stupied? there is alott off safety regulations and protection like old tires and sand to slow down the car before going into the protection rail on a race strip. but on a road you have concrete or a person walking along the road
the driver off this Nissan 300ZX did hit a lamppost during a street-racing and the car caught on Fire the driver where burned to death inside the car
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0207/17/NYHETER-17s16-streetrace-6_368.jpg
If I was drunk, I would still know how to spell stupid and form a complete sentence. There are a lot of safety regulations on the street we race on. Such as an extra 1+ mile of road to slow down as well as a median with a rail to stop us from going into the other lanes. If you are driving on bad tires yet alone racing on them you should not be driving in the first place. None of our cars are daily driven and see less than 10K miles a year, therefore they are ALWAYS maintained in a pretty picky manner.
The driver of that Nissan was a dipshit, from the picture it looks like he was "racing" in a busy part of town. I put racing in quotes because who knows if that's what happened? If you had an article to go along with that it would hold water much better. Obviously you didn't throughly read my forst post. We are pretty damn careful about racing on the street as far as safety goes. Our cars are all sub 12 second cars and are ALL have a 4 point harness and a roll cage per the NHRA regulations. We almost all run the same kind of tires and have quite a bit of on track experience from the strip to the track as well as a LOT of time spent on mountain roads perfecting our heel/toe and trail braking techniquies.
If you dare to call me stupid again be properly preparred with facts and not just opinions and pictures of a crashed car.
12 inch pianist
Jan 07, 2005, 3:25 AM
I wouldn't call Malin stupid if you can't work out that English is her second language which she speaks VERY well.
Malin
Jan 07, 2005, 6:49 AM
TwinTurboBliss
Your are living in a fantasy world where you think that your are in control off the situation so i am Sorry to say it illegal street racing can never be as safe as a real race track. Your are playing with other humans life every time you are racing on a public road. Do you think that your 4 point harness and a roll cage gone save the innocent human travelling on the same road as you are playing on?
And concerning the driver off the Nissan he where doing a drag race in a industrial estate
And sure i have the article i hope you can read Swedish.
Ungt par i dödskrasch i hög fart
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=26709
But I have to say i have nothing against you as a person and it where wrong by me to call you stupid. but you act very egoistic and unmature when you think that street racing is safe
TwinTurboBliss
Jan 07, 2005, 9:53 PM
TwinTurboBliss
Your are living in a fantasy world where you think that your are in control off the situation so i am Sorry to say it illegal street racing can never be as safe as a real race track. Your are playing with other humans life every time you are racing on a public road. Do you think that your 4 point harness and a roll cage gone save the innocent human travelling on the same road as you are playing on?
And concerning the driver off the Nissan he where doing a drag race in a industrial estate
And sure i have the article i hope you can read Swedish.
Ungt par i dödskrasch i hög fart
http://www.dn.se/DNet/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=147&a=26709
But I have to say i have nothing against you as a person and it where wrong by me to call you stupid. but you act very egoistic and unmature when you think that street racing is safe
That is your opinion and by all means think what you want. Maybe the "street races" you have been if you have even been to any have been far different than the ones I attend.
You say the precautions we take still do not aid us in protecting the innocent person on the street. Well sorry to say but there are no people on the street other than the two racers when we are there. This is a very seldomly traveled road at 2AM. We take serious precautions to protect ourselves from an accident and we take similar precautions to protect ourselves from the law. There is one person set up at each end of the 7 mile road that we consider ours for a few hours every summer weekend. We communicate by nextel in a group talk mode where everybody in our particular group can hear everybody else. Think of it as a wideband walkie talkie.
We do this to ensure that no other cars will interfere in our fun as well as to keep everybody safe.
If you want to ***** at me for not being safe say that canyon runs are not safe. We have an annual "super car" cruise here every year and we always take the same 85 mile route. Last year we lost 6 cars, 5 blew up and one hit the side of the canyon wall. If it wern't for his cars set-up he would have been seriously hurt. We have not lost any cars "street racing".
Now I'll ask you again....from what I described do you consider the street racing we do as safe? Does it seem like we are in control of our situation?
We are not a bunch of teenagers in crappy cars, we have a pretty good idea of our limits because we test them so much at the track in an even more controlled enviroment.
As far as the nissan driver is concerned, he is still a dipshit and should have taken the precautions that we do.
12 inch pianist
Jan 07, 2005, 10:20 PM
If you lose 6 cars on a cruise they obviously badly set up and/or driven by the incompotent
TwinTurboBliss
Jan 08, 2005, 2:09 AM
If you lose 6 cars on a cruise they obviously badly set up and/or driven by the incompotent
The one who crashed was not the greatest driver.
The other had very finely tuned cars and have never been on a route that hard..there are a lot of elevation changes and non-existant humitity, they obviouslu didn't know that you can run your "dyno" tune on something like this. I helped one car pick pieces of his engine off the road. Oil starvation is dangerous.
12 inch pianist
Jan 08, 2005, 2:10 AM
Well these people obviously aren't safe street racing
TwinTurboBliss
Jan 08, 2005, 3:06 PM
Well these people obviously aren't safe street racing
The guy who crashed was a drag guy, not a track guy.
Lancer 3v0 MR
Jan 08, 2005, 4:42 PM
what car do you have?
TwinTurboBliss
Jan 08, 2005, 6:15 PM
what car do you have?
Me? I own a Twinturbo 300zx as described in my sig.
Mopar68
Jan 13, 2005, 5:44 PM
If I was drunk, I would still know how to spell stupid and form a complete sentence.
uh oh, i smell a cat fight! meow
Ok, back on topic.
LostPilgrim
Feb 28, 2005, 9:33 PM
for light racing....its better to find a place where people go...
ever since the 60's theres this one road around here thats at least 3kms completely straight at one part...everybody street races, in the 60's there used to be 100 cars there a night just messing around and theyd laugh at you if you brought some 300hp small block car
my friends father has so many stories in his 71 427bb camaro..
i never race on busy streets or main roads...way too dangerous and too many cops, just find a road with 2 lanes on 1 side and just do a good quick race up to 100mph, or until one car has obviously blown the doors off another
iwantAcar
Mar 05, 2005, 5:30 PM
you guyz are sooo kool =/
i need a car.................
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