Nissan 2001 R34 GTR
Engine; Twin Turbo, In line six, DOHC, Four valve, 2600cc
Power; 206kw@6800rpm
Torque; 392Nm@4200rpm
0-60mph; 4.8

Porsche 2002 996 Twin Turbo 996 TT
Engine; Twin Turbo, Flat six, Four valve, 3600cc
Power; 309kw@6000rpm
Torque; 560Nm@2700/4600rpm
0-60mph; 4.2

Which would U have :?:

I chosed for the porsche, cause i like the looks better then the nissan, but i founded some pictures of both of them

Nissan 2001 R34 GTR :
http://evoshop.uhome.net/mygallery/car15-8.jpg
(im not completely sure if i have the correct one, if not, do reply to this one)

Porsche 2002 996 Twin Turbo 996 TT :
http://www.duparc.nl/images/porsche%20996%20voor.jpg


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The Porsche. Nothing Japanese can be compared to a Porsche.

for about $5000 dollars you can have the GTR at the same level of performance. remember the GTR is about a thrid of the price[/img]

I vote for the GTR R34!!

WOW , that car looks VERY good! , MUCH better than the Porsche!!
And you not much slower than the porsche i think till the 60km/h The NIssan will be faster! because of his enourmous traction! 4wd quite heavy!!

And i think With the Nissan if you take a ride on the boulevard More people will look to that Nissan than the Porsche !

Greetz : Danny!

My vote goes to the Nissan Skyline. It looks way better and i think you'll get better performance in proporsion to the price.

Porsche for me!It's European.Especially these German cars couldn't compare with Japanese!

We here in Holland have no : RX-7's , Skyline's , Supra's :roll:
Damn they don't import the cars!!

GRRR :x

greetz : Danny!

Now you mention it Alfa.... I have never seen one of those here. Oh well, i don't really care about those ricers anyway. I'd rather see some American muscles around :) .

But i cannot find much muscle cars here either??

It's pretty #$$% luike to see Skyline's here on the road's :D

R34 :D:D:

Greetz : Danny!

2 very different cars - it depends whether you just want to show of or not. If you did the porsche probably would be the one.
But I just like performance, and for some reason i prefer the looks of the R34.

Also heres a proper pic of the skyline as opposed to a pic of a model car above!

http://www.ridejudge.com/rides/00002823.jpg

But i cannot find much muscle cars here either??

Let's see.... I think i saw 1 or maybe 2 muscle cars on the road, definately not more than that. They're quite rare as well.

I really love the Skyline's nose, looks so agressive.

Yeah indeed dark not much......

That Skyline is GREAT!! that colour is very good !!

Really like that car!!

NICE PICCA!!!

Greetz : Danny!

but du 1 mallon showd us is a modified version

Yes.

http://www.ridejudge.com/rides/00002823.jpg

wow that's the nicest skyline that i ever saw my vote is for the skyline gtr :D

McLaren, have you ever saw the Blitz Skyline? I think the only smiley wich is suitable for this car, has to be: :shock: . If you already saw it.... You really like this one better?

no i've never seen it have you got a link or a pic

thanks :D

I think it's the one the protagonist has in 2F2F.

In 2F2F this Skyline is powered by Blitz???Nice work! :lol:

heres a pic of the Blitz Skyline

http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/nissan/r348_1.jpg



apparantly it goes from 0-100kph in 3 seconds

12 shots at getting that image to work

your pic does not work can you post the link :D

Heres some more pics of the Blitz Skyline
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/nissan/r348_3.jpg
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/images/nissan/r348_4.jpg

that is flamin amazin - as far as modified cars go i cant think of a car that betters it.

Here's one ( fantastic car! ):



http://www.blitz-uk.co.uk/autobahn1.jpg

Sorry about posting this pic, i didn't saw Noamd's posts. Is it ok if i still leave it here?

I think i speak for all of us when I say you get cant have enough pictures of the Blitz.

I have seen that Blitz Skyline before.That's quite good! :wink:

Yes, it's indeed nice, although if I had a Skyline, I would prefer it to be ALL black!! :twisted:

I think i speak for all of us when I say you get cant have enough pictures of the Blitz.

Great 8) .

agree, and 213mph!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

NIce car, is that street legal? I heard someone say that it is only a race car??

I would take a porsche. I jsut love how they look.

i thought this car was street legal yes , and i would take this car over any Porsche except the Carrera GT :D

GFreetz : Italian Freak :D Danny!

Bah...I like every Porsche more than this Nissan...

even the....
928?
914?
944?

the porsche...no question. not that the R34 isn't awesome for a Japanese car, but we're talking about a Porsche...and i'm biased to Italian.. :D

the porsche...no question. not that the R34 isn't awesome for a Japanese car, but we're talking about a Porsche...and i'm biased to Italian.. :D

Keywords in that sentence ...awesome for a Japanese car...
what do u mean by that?

I think he means that Japan doesn't make any real sports cars. I think that they do, and I think that the Skyline is great, but I would take the Porsche with the XD50 power package.

yeah...the Japanese can put out a nice car...and their sports cars have nice lines and all, but the German and Italian sports cars are in a league of their own...and i'm a "she" not a "he" :)

thats true, Japanese sports cars are in some cases greater then those that come out of the factories in Marenello or Stuttgart. But The reality is Japense cars or asian cars for that matter will never reach the level of respectibility they deserve.

and sorry for call you a male, i didn't know you were female beforehand sorry

I had no idea there was a 996 turbo. It looks kind of bland, as far as porsches go. I'd still take that over the skyline, just because i think it has better build quality.

yup it looks really bad wiht those ugly head lights

r u talking about the headlights of the R34??

Of course not! those head lights are so beautiful, i'm talking aobut the ones on the 911 turbo

oh, i don not like the Blitz skyline. Those fender flares look so tacked on. EEwwWw! Yuck. If your going to desecrate the holy skyline, at least do it right.

oh, i don not like the Blitz skyline. Those fender flares look so tacked on. EEwwWw! Yuck. If your going to desecrate the holy skyline, at least do it right.

amnh i like the blitz, but i know hwta you mean. IMO its hard to better on the original stock in terms of looks.

it's like trying to mess with a ferrari or a lamborgini. You just can't mess with the exterior.

*with the exception of the murcielago and the 575 in one of the other topics started a a while ago!

996 Turbo. Love the Skyline, still not comparable with the Porca. :?

Porsches styling is like a wierd frog, ya know? Anyway, in the Skyline I can drive around comfortably with 3 of my freinds. I find more snobby buisness men drive Porsches and I don't like that sort of image. Anyway, I like the Skyline's styling MUCH more and that straight six is just begging to be tuned :wink: I'm a tuner guy, not a "you have everything you'll want out of the box". Not to say the GT-R isn't fast, you'd just like it to be so fast that it will blow away things like Porsches and stinky Camaros :mrgreen: Thats just me though :!: :!: :!:

Porsche 2002 996 Twin Turbo 996 TT :
http://www.duparc.nl/images/porsche%20996%20voor.jpg

1st of all thats a pic of a normal carrera,
the 996 (911) Twin Turbo:
http://speedycars.chinacars.com/wallpaper2/porsche/Porsche%20911%20Turbo%202000%20-%20056.jpg
and here in the U.S. Skyline prices are close to 911Twin Turbo prices...
R34s start at $90,000 (ALL USED)

The Porsche. Nothing Japanese can be compared to a Porsche.

that tha fact, is Porsche the german engenering aganist Nissan tha japanese brand, to me porsche is the obusly chose, nissan doesnt have so much to ofer agaisnt prosche, is a great car, and i really love have one, but porsche is better..

R34s start at $90,000 (ALL USED)[/quote]

a used one starts at 78K and a new one starts at 93,
The GT2 and the ksyline are a veyr good comparison but when u comapre it with a porsche 911 turbo the nissan would win, it is a more aigle car that handels better, don't forget the R33 was the car that held the fastest lap time at nurburgring for 4 years.

Can anyone say that the Skyline quality is that good that Porsche's is???
That's the first and the final reason that I prefer any Porsche over any Nissan...350Z is better from Skyline for me...In beauty. :lol:

porsches are not cars made to last long, have u ever heard the engine of an old porsche? its really funny. The skylines quality is better then the 911. but there is no purpose in comapirng quality if you compare perofrmance the skyline is a better car

The skylines quality is better then the 911

eh?
what do you mean quality? Because you couldnt mean build quality!??!!

i like both cars, id take a V-Spec II over and 911 turbo BUT,
i really dont think an R34 can beat a Turbo 911
the skyline is heavier and as always the rear-engine or mid-engine will do better then a front engine.
but there are some occations that front engined rear powered cars do better.
i just looked at the stats
the 911 turbo is much faster...
look them up yourselves im tired of providing facts.
you can also compare tuner cars, where porsche has some crazy tuners and so does the skyline

I dont think that Nissan's quality is better than Porsche's at all... :?

argh: schumi this is your quest go on the internet and find an audio clip of an old porsche 911, turbo or non turbo, listen to the engine and how it thumps, then you will understand porsche quality.

and the argument of the skylines weight is totally ubsurd the weight difference between a porsche 911 turbo and a skyline is only 87kg!

the ultimate race car :twisted:
http://racing.jbskyline.net/2001/Gallery/Bilder/2001%20JGTC%20Xanavi%20front3.jpg

Old Porsches might not have been great, but the new ones have build quality right up there with any car you can think of. Anyway, stock to stock, the Skyline can't even come close to the 911 Turbo or 911 GT2 or 911 GT3, performance wise. But between a regular 911 and a Skyline, I'd have to take the Nissan. Modded, then it all changes.

I'd take even the regular 911 over the Skyline.

I have post that before...The only thing that Japanese know to do it well...Modify their cars and pverpush them to the limits just before smash their engines...I dont like that.I prefer the official manunfactor quality... :?

man i get so angry when people do not look at specs,if the 911 turbo can beat the skyline it is a very very slim chance of doing it!, both cars have verys imilar gear ratios and performance specs, but the skyline can still take the 911 turbo on any day

I didnt say anything about specs.I said that I prefer the manufactor quality better.

even then per capita nissan has better quality

I have a different opinion..Is that bad???And you say that FIAT dont have such quality and I say that FIAT have the quality but noone believe me if they didnt see it by themselves...

youa r eentitled to your opinion, i am not trying to stop you from giving your opinion i'm am just giving you the actual facts

IMO the actual facts are that Porsche's are better that Nissan's are in quality and ask anybody who knows about cars to tell you...I dont think that their cars are so expensive just from the luxury inside... :?

Ok, I voted for the Porsche...even thought the Skyline has all that potential under it's hood...anyways...the Porsche has the logo, the Skyline shares its badge with cars like the SENTRA...I hate to say it, but brand is the only thing that caused me to change from Skyline to 996 TT...And to those who say the Skyline can be modified till 1300 horsepower...I know, everybody knows...So can Porsche's, take a look at Sportec, RUF, Gemballa...etc...put a 996 Twin Turbo up against a Nismo modified skyline and the skyline will get TROUNCED...probably...hehehehehehehe :wink: :wink:

put a 996 Twin Turbo

Modified of course

Man, I have a magazine in my home with a Gemballa black Porsche(911 thought) with 600 hp and 3.3s 0-100km/h... :shock:
You have to see this car.It is gorgeous. :wink:

a 1300HP porsche will get beaten by a 1300Hp skyline there is no doubt, the porsche will be left in dust

And that's for sure!

Why are you sure about that???Have your ever saw a comparison between such of those cars???
I really get pissed of...Do you think that you know everything.Hell no.
Why not Porsche cant win Nissan??Give me true fact to believe..I will not anyway but something...If I will not see it by myself I will not believe it.
:evil:

look at these 0-100kmh times http://www.exvitermini.com/records.htm
look at this vidoe of a mines skyline going around a track the dirvers almost soil themselves because the car is too fast http://www.racingflix.com/getvideo.asp?v=293&p=6

or look for the video on kazza if u can and that skyline si not even tuned to 1000HP, while watching the video look at the RPM's when they drop they go up so quickly

So???What do you think,that a 1300ps Porsche will have 30Km/h top speed???? :shock:
I bet that Porsche will go faster.It will have bigger engine and I am sure that it will go faster than Skyline.Did you notice that all the cars on this site that you post are Japanese...I told you.The only thing that Japanese know to do well is to overpush their engines to the limits and then???They can make 6000 kms and then they full their engines with oil every week for not to brake everything in the engine. :?

lol, maybe all the cars are japanese becasue it is a nissan skyline dedicated web page? ever thought about that? lol and a 1300hp porsche having a 30km/h top speed you may think that but not me it will have a speed of around 220mph, oh and you don't change your oil every week its every couple of thousand kms

Let's get back to the original subject: Skyline versus 911 Turbo. The Skyline would be destroyed on a track. The 911 Turbo does 0-60 in around 4 seconds, has a rear-mounted engine, and AWD. The Skyline has a front-mounted engine, AWD, and does 0-60 in les than 5 seconds.

what you posted were 0-60 times whihc have no relevance when you are on a track, what you must factor in are hte cars systems and how to work, the sklyine is a great car not because of its engine, or becasue it has AWD, its a great car becasue of AWD, the powerful engine, 4 wheel steering and just about anything you would find on another sports car. WIth all these elements it can beat the 911 turbo on a trackeven though its less powerful but the skyline does hve verysimilar gear ratios to the 911 turbo. The skyine is a car that you can reassured in while racing unlike the 911 where you must let the car drive you.

and htis is an exceprt from a top gear road test:" If the day ever comes when authorities ban all private cars from the road and you've got one night left - one final blast from dusk to dawn - it would be hard to choose between these four. But if the GT3 could still be kept for track days, the Skyline is the one. And afterwards, you could download the data from the dashtop computer and show it to your grandchildren."

This just further proves it if a skyline is able to beat a GT3 it ceratinaly can beat a 911 turbo

Actually the 911 turbo might be faster than the GT3.

the 911 turbo and GT3 are pretty much the same car, both have hte same 0-60 time of 4.2 and 4.3, and the GT3 is faster then the 911 turbo by only 1 mph, hte only difference is price; the turbo being mroe expensive but they are pretty much even cars

the 911 turbo and GT3 are pretty much the same car, both have hte same 0-60 time of 4.2 and 4.3, and the GT3 is faster then the 911 turbo by only 1 mph, hte only difference is price; the turbo being mroe expensive but they are pretty much even cars. This may change though if taken on the track i'm sure the GT3 can handle better on a track

Guys r u f@cking nuts? ? ? ? ? I don't know where to start. . . 1) the pic at the beginning of the topic is not a 911 Turbo, 2) say what u want to say, the 911 Turbo is by far faster than the Skyline (even it's on the road or in a track), 3) 911 Turbo is also AWD, 4) 911 GT3 is a hole different car from the 911 Turbo, it doesn't mean that because they look the same, they have and the same set up, 5) i don't have any problem with japanese cars, but all japanese cars have set up/tune for 0-100, 0-160, etc, they are not build for difficult turnings or things like that (except some Honda's like the new Type-R). For ex. take a Peugeot 106 Rallye 1.6 120hp and a Honda Civic 1.6 160hp (quite nice car, 40hp than the 106) and put the to race a special stage like the WRC with tarmac, there is no way the Civic could win even with the more hp that it has. U want another ex.? Look how many championships has Lancia in WRC, it's more than all the Japanese car makers have. And if u want to see how far ahead is the European tech, u want Variable Valve Timing? Alfa Romeo was the 1st one, u want 4WD? Audi was the 1st one, u want disk brakes? Ferrari was the 1st one and the list goes on. . . 6) i read the last post by thlam, man how old r u? u say that 911 GT3 is faster than the 911 Turbo by 1 m/h. U think that because it's faster by 1 m/h makes it faster or similar to the 911 Turbo? The set up of the car is so close to a racing one that if 911 GT3 was 20m/h slower it would be faster, even it was on a road or in a track. U know roads and tracks aren't only straight lines, they have turns also. . . Anyway, like u figure out my vote goes to Porsche! ! !

Geo is quite right here. although i still prefer the skyline only FAR by looks / design!

And Geo is so damn right with this :D

- u want Variable Valve Timing? Alfa Romeo was the 1st one
- u want disk brakes? Ferrari was the 1st one
- Look how many championships has Lancia in WRC, it's more than all the Japanese car makers have


:D:D:D

Forza Alfa Romeo

Ciao , Danny!

Geo_x, I agree with your post, except for one thing:

but all japanese cars have set up/tune for 0-100, 0-160, etc, they are not build for difficult turnings or things like that (except some Honda's like the new Type-R). For ex. take a Peugeot 106 Rallye 1.6 120hp and a Honda Civic 1.6 160hp (quite nice car, 40hp than the 106) and put the to race a special stage like the WRC with tarmac, there is no way the Civic could win even with the more hp that it has.
You've got it a bit wrong there... Some japanese cars are deadly racers, and can kill others around a track. The Civic Vti you refer to (1.6lt 160PS NA) can outgun more cars than you think.
Also, do you know that the EVO 7-8 performs a little better than the GT3 in some tracks? (ie Megara, "4Troxoi" March 2003)
Also, the GT2 performs similar to the GT3 around a track.

Guys r u f@cking nuts? ? ? ? ? I don't know where to start. . . 1) the pic at the beginning of the topic is not a 911 Turbo, 2) say what u want to say, the 911 Turbo is by far faster than the Skyline (even it's on the road or in a track), 3) 911 Turbo is also AWD, 4) 911 GT3 is a hole different car from the 911 Turbo, it doesn't mean that because they look the same, they have and the same set up, 5) i don't have any problem with japanese cars, but all japanese cars have set up/tune for 0-100, 0-160, etc, they are not build for difficult turnings or things like that (except some Honda's like the new Type-R). For ex. take a Peugeot 106 Rallye 1.6 120hp and a Honda Civic 1.6 160hp (quite nice car, 40hp than the 106) and put the to race a special stage like the WRC with tarmac, there is no way the Civic could win even with the more hp that it has. U want another ex.? Look how many championships has Lancia in WRC, it's more than all the Japanese car makers have. And if u want to see how far ahead is the European tech, u want Variable Valve Timing? Alfa Romeo was the 1st one, u want 4WD? Audi was the 1st one, u want disk brakes? Ferrari was the 1st one and the list goes on. . . 6) i read the last post by thlam, man how old r u? u say that 911 GT3 is faster than the 911 Turbo by 1 m/h. U think that because it's faster by 1 m/h makes it faster or similar to the 911 Turbo? The set up of the car is so close to a racing one that if 911 GT3 was 20m/h slower it would be faster, even it was on a road or in a track. U know roads and tracks aren't only straight lines, they have turns also. . . Anyway, like u figure out my vote goes to Porsche! ! !


wow geo X you seem like you do have a problem with japanese cars, Alfa Romeo may have introduced VVT but it was honda that really pionered the system, Car manufactures today a enot using the method of the Alfa Romeo VVT but rather copying Honda's system, but credit is due where credit goes to alfa romeo for introducing the system first, and disk brakes were not invented by Ferrari, disk brakes were first used in america out of all places http://www.motorera.com/history/hist07.htm
and lastly Lancia winning more races then all Japanese manufacutrers combined is true, but that is also true for all American, British or even French. Lancia has a dominating history when it comes to constructors championship and they deserve respect for that. But when you single out one country it is not very fair. It seems like you do have a problem with Japanese cars but who am i to judge i'm just here to give the real facts

Yes my mistake, i forgot them. Evo Series and Impeza's are r damn good in all kind of roads and tracks. As for the civic i'm sure that it can outgun many cars but not on tight roads with many turns (imo). And about the GT2 i know that it has similar performance with the GT3 but i was refering to the 911 Turbo. As for u thlam, i'm saying once again that i don't have any problem with Japanese cars and if u don't believe me check out other post to see if i have problem with Japanese cars or what's my favorite car. Now about the VVT system i know that Honda's is better, but Honda started to using it much later. And for Lancia i was refering as a European car maker not as an Italian. About the brakes i read the article and imo it's refering more to a handbrake system, i don't know u may be right. . .

Look guys.I dont think that you want to start who have the best novelty between Europeans and Japanese.Of course Europeans would beat Japanese on everything...Yes,Alfa inveted the VVT and yes Honda improved it...But next Alfa,Mercedes took the VVT system and improved it first.Then Japanese took it and it has the today's effect...We are saying:Wow!The new Corolla with the VVTL-i system...So,what??Who invented that?What about Wankel engines???A German invented that engine,Mercedes looked it and Mercedes told that this engines has no future and then Wankel found the respect and the men to improve at Japan.So,my point is Japanese cannot invent anything by themselves?????European and Americans are the top of technology and quality and tell everything you want.Yes,Lancer EVO's and Subaru's are good at WRC style roads and mud.What about Honda????They invented the V-tec system and they placed it even in a motorcycle???OK,let them put it in a Honda Dio or whatever.....Nuff said.Japanese wouldnt do nothing without Europeans IMO.In contrary Europeans and Americans can do anything by themselves...

lol. This topic has gotten a little crazy. The 911 GT2, GT3 and Turbo can beat any Japanese car on an average track. That's because they were designed for the ultimate on-pavement performance. But Japanese cars aren't bad, it's just they haven't been designed for racing on tracks. The Lancer Evo or WRX STi could beat any Porsche on a rally course, and can probably come pretty close on the track. :D

wow thats a little harsh don't you think schumi, all countries have their strenghts, and one of japans is engineering, but to get somewhat bakc on topic: let me ask you this after hondas Vtec patent died down what did every company copy, Mercedes VVT system, Alfas or Hondas?They copied Hondas becasue they knew it was the best one to use. And to end on a harsher note, The world would do nothing without Japan it is one of America's and Europe's largest trading partners, if you take everything into perspective we as the world cannot survive if we lose one continent or lose another becasue we are all dependant on eachother.

I don't think Schumi meant it that way. He just meant that Europeans were more inventive and more technologically advanced than Japanese, at least in the first years of automotive history. We must not forget however that the japanese have found very effective techniques and solutions to some automotive problems.

skyline would get creamd and thats a FACT
i have a video of your r34 getting wooped by a 911 twin turbo in 1/4 mile, so yes it is faster in acceleration. [GT-R: 13'031 seconds] [911: 12'450 seconds]
the 911 has 400+hp while the skyline only has 280+hp
the skylines interior is CRAP,
911 leather
you cannot buy a new skyline because THEY ARE ALL USED
yes a gt3 is very different from the 911 TT,
gt3=boxer6 non-turbo while 911 TT=boxer6 twin-turbo
here are some Nurburgring times for your stupid ass, thlam:
Porsche 996 Turbo...........420hp year 2000 20,832 km 7:56 = 157 km/h
Nissan Skyline R34 GTR..276 hp year 1999 20,832 km 8:28 = 147 km/h
so that answers the question to which is faster... MORONS
even the 911 cabrio (convertible) is faster than your r34.
go here http://www.nordschleife.no/

The Porsche. Nothing Japanese can be compared to a Porsche.

























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That's the POINT, PORSCHE is BETTER, alwas and forever against all the japanesse cars









:idea:

Yes yes yes yes yes.

a few comments on this thread.... :arrow:

Porsche 911, GT3 and definately GT2 might be "better"... but i'd still take a R34 over any of them, new or used. And you can still import brand new R34's to the US, they had to old them for 1 year before they can import a "new" car :!:

the R34 M-Spec had leather interior :!:

And the 280 was underrated and was an agreed upon "rating" all the japaneese makers set, but that doesn't mean that's what the cars were, or that a chip couldn't take care of... like the R34 M-Spec and V-Spec II Nur's, or the Nismo's. so put one of those aginst the 911. as for styling, every Porsche looks the same to me, but nothing looks like an R34 :!:

:twisted:

Every Porsche looks the same to me, but nothing looks like an R34.





The Porsche is a classic design, the Nissian is BLAHHHHHHH.

a few comments on this thread.... :arrow:

Porsche 911, GT3 and definately GT2 might be "better"... but i'd still take a R34 over any of them, new or used. And you can still import brand new R34's to the US, they had to old them for 1 year before they can import a "new" car :!:

the R34 M-Spec had leather interior :!:

And the 280 was underrated and was an agreed upon "rating" all the japaneese makers set, but that doesn't mean that's what the cars were, or that a chip couldn't take care of... like the R34 M-Spec and V-Spec II Nur's, or the Nismo's. so put one of those aginst the 911. as for styling, every Porsche looks the same to me, but nothing looks like an R34 :!:

:twisted:
sorry for the bad news: THERE ARE NO NEW R34's: THEY ARE ALL USED, THEY STOPPED MAKING THEM IN 2001.
show me a place taht imports brand ****en spankn new r34s

sorry for the bad news: THERE ARE NO NEW R34's: THEY ARE ALL USED, THEY STOPPED MAKING THEM IN 2001.
show me a place taht imports brand [censored] spankn new r34s

hummm... look at this page....

http://www.skylinegtr.com/STOCKLIST.html

R34 SKYLINE GT-R (NEW)
GT-R V SPEC II $95,000
GT-R $93,000
(R34 WILL BE RE-RELEASED SOMETIME IN 2004)

i know they don't make any new GT-R's, but that dosen't mean there aren't new ones out there. Motorx buys them but has to wait to import them due to import laws.

check out the page for more info.

:twisted:

no comment 1mic??? :lol:


:twisted:

i know they don't make any new GT-R's, but that dosen't mean there aren't new ones out there. Motorx buys them but has to wait to import them due to import laws.

check out the page for more info.

:twisted:

They haven't made one in years how can they be "new"....thats beyond me.