Im a huge fan of spycker, and the cars are really fantastic, check for some picutures of spycker during Le mans and other pictures http://www.spykercars.nl/ , but almost no autorace game has a spycker in it, only GT Concept and one NfS i dont know hich one, but saw the NfS car menu and saw a spyker in it, and i hope more ppl look for the car and like the car, so it can be played in alot more games :lol:

I agree with you, but not completely. I don't think Spyker is unapreciated, i just think not to many people know about them ( same goes for Donkervoort. ). As for gaming, yes, you are right. As far as i know, GTC is the only game wich contains a Spyker ( C8 Laviolette. ). I also think Spyker should appear in more racing games than they are now. After all, they are supercars :) ( man, do i feel proud saying this :wink: ).

Yeah Your prabably right that not everyone know what a Spycker is, is saw it in one of yuor topics, the folks never heard of spycker,

I like it alot!! It's so special and rare!

I share your opinion completely Jim! I think Marshall thinks the same way as well :) .

I like the Speed of the Spyker but , not the design sorry guys
Yes i'm from Holland but it's just not my taste :( Don't wurry guys in a few years i'll be gone and live in Italia!!!

Greetz : Danny!

I share the sam opinion as Tim and Dark, Spyker is great, and everybody may know it :wink:

here is an picture of the spijker c8 laviolette
http://www.audiworld.com/news/01/031001/violette06.jpg

Ah, the C8 Laviolette, it's a beauty. But not the best Spyker. I consider this one to be the best, a C8 Double 12S :

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1498-1.jpg

its a nice car - but do some you guys not think it looks a little messy/cluttered with all the vents and intakes?
It doesnt have the design elegance of an astom martin IMO

No, not exactly. I think it makes the Spyker look more agressive. And i definately find it elegant. I even think it's more elegant the Aston Martins.

I share the sam opinion as Tim and Dark, Spyker is great, and everybody may know it :wink:

here is an picture of the spijker c8 laviolette
http://www.audiworld.com/news/01/031001/violette06.jpg

damn that nice

I'm sory guys , in my opinion Mallon is abslutly right!!

I DON"T like the car not nice design to many air intakes indeed!

Sorry :(

greetz : Danny!

I really don't inderstand why many people complain about the air intakes. What about the F40, or Saleen S7? Most people like them, while they have even more intakes.

its a nice car - but do some you guys not think it looks a little messy/cluttered with all the vents and intakes?
It doesnt have the design elegance of an astom martin IMO

I dont agree whit you, Every car has its own unique thins, and Spyker has (for example) those intakes, almost no other car manufatur makes it that way, maybe cause of that u dont like it, but w8 and see, spyker is building cars just a few years(they build airplanes before that, look to my Avatar, its the Spyker Symbel, and only build a few cars almost 100 years ago) so for a carmanufaturer that is building Sportscars for a few years its great

spyker is building cars just a few years(they build airplanes before that, look to my Avatar, its the Spyker Symbel, and only build a few cars almost 100 years ago) so for a carmanufaturer that is building Sportscars for a few years its great

they built there first cars more than 100 years ago! Didnt the design the C8 to celebrate the 100 years a few years ago?
Also they made planes after making these cars, as they werent making enough money as they only made luxury cars i think. The started making planes somewhere around 1925 - i know this because them and SAAB traded parts illegally.

yeah they stopted making cars in 1925(or something like that) and they went building planes, and began building cars since 1998(im not sure) and they started building completely different cars, now it are sportscars then it were almost same cars as the T-ford,


(ur trying to crack me of??, or ur serious, cause ur doing it on my other topic to, Mallon)

the model T was an every day car - Spyker made high end luxury cars - They even got cars assembled Benz's - under the name Spyker-Benz

(Crack you off? - i dont understand!)

(Crack you off? - i dont understand!)
LOLOLOLOLOL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: I guess he means 'piss you off'...

Anyway, I really like the design, but it's not the design that caught my attention...
I'm astonished by the fact that only 25 were made in 2002!!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:
This is sooo rare!! I don't think I've stated this before, but rare cars are my weakness!!!
Give me a car that's this rare and take my soul!!!!
It makes you feel very special when you drive a car like that!

PS: DutchMarshall, could you translate that Spyker phrase at you signature?

i think hes spelt his signature wrong...
i think it should be Nulla tenaci.....

It means in latin, No road is inpenetrable for him who perservers

Hmm... interesting.
I'd really like to learn Latin sometime.

No road is inpenetrable for him who perservers

Literally, it sais: For the tenacious, no road is impassable. Kind of the same, i know....

By the way, what does 'perservers' mean :oops: ?

the model T was an every day car - Spyker made high end luxury cars - They even got cars assembled Benz's - under the name Spyker-Benz

(Crack you off? - i dont understand!)

ah, that i didnt know, cause i wasnt interrested,
Crack you of = uhm.. trying to make fun of me whit my own sayings, im not sure :?

PS: DutchMarshall, could you translate that Spyker phrase at you signature?

Same As From Dark, he has the English Quote of Spyker, i got the original Latin quote:P

For the tenacious, no road is impassable.

it is standing somewhere on the Spyker website, but dont know were :?

Check it if u want http://www.spykercars.nl its completely in english, not dutch

By the way, what does 'perservers' mean :oops: ?
It's perseveres.
Persevere = insist (mostly for a good reason)

Thanks Jim :) ! You've just enlarged my knowledge :wink: .

what knowledge:P haha lol, i didnt know what it was to, thank you jim :D

The knowledge wich is greater than your's.... In other words: Mine :wink: .

AII DArk Venom!!

The can be quite hard for u :p

WWELL, DON"T U EVER COMPARE A EASY SPYKER TO AN F-40!! PLEASE!!!

The Whole design OF the F-40 is completly SUPER RIGHT!! And FErrari designed the Air Intakes were that was possible and Even really DESIGNED the air intakes!

Well i think that's a quite big diffrence with a Spyker not really nice , if you gave that car to me i would place the air intakes at totally diffrent places and they got absolutly another shape!

Please a Spyker is no competition for a Company like FERRARI WITH experience!!

http://www.ferrariforum.net/gallery/photos/1192.jpg

WOW , MOST BEAUTIFUL CAR OF THE WORLD!!
HEy guys this is the track i drove with the F-40!! : Still 1 word: AMAZING!!

Greetz : Danny!

AII DArk Venom!!

The can be quite hard for u :p

WWELL, DON"T U EVER COMPARE A EASY SPYKER TO AN F-40!! PLEASE!!!

The Whole design OF the F-40 is completly SUPER RIGHT!! And FErrari designed the Air Intakes were that was possible and Even really DESIGNED the air intakes!

Well i think that's a quite big diffrence with a Spyker not really nice , if you gave that car to me i would place the air intakes at totally diffrent places and they got absolutly another shape!

Please a Spyker is no competition for a Company like FERRARI WITH experience!!

WOW , MOST BEAUTIFUL CAR OF THE WORLD!!
HEy guys this is the track i drove with the F-40!! : Still 1 word: AMAZING!!

Greetz : Danny!

You are sooooooo brand partial :twisted: but that is right :twisted:

Anyway, i think the spyker is really nice, but it's in another league, more like Maserati/Jaguar league with some unique styling and better performance

AII DArk Venom!!

The can be quite hard for u :p

WWELL, DON"T U EVER COMPARE A EASY SPYKER TO AN F-40!! PLEASE!!!

The Whole design OF the F-40 is completly SUPER RIGHT!! And FErrari designed the Air Intakes were that was possible and Even really DESIGNED the air intakes!

Well i think that's a quite big diffrence with a Spyker not really nice , if you gave that car to me i would place the air intakes at totally diffrent places and they got absolutly another shape!

Please a Spyker is no competition for a Company like FERRARI WITH experience!!


We Compare a Spyker with everycar, just like everyone compares ferrari with lambourghini or something else, on the spyker the airintakes are really designt for it to, they are not for fun or looks, they are for performence, and Spyker does more for performence then for looks, cause performence is better on the racetrack, not the looks(not really)
And ferrai has more xperience, It took spyker less years to compete other supercars, and making there own look, it took ferrari much more time, and spyker builded last year only 25 cars, but they were sold almost all over the world, not just in holland or belguim or maybe germany, but to america, spain, italy, and more countrys
So if u give Spyker as much time as ferrari to make the worlds best supercars, now probably Ferrari wins, but in a year of 10, it is different, then my bet is defenitly on Spyker

and look this great Spyker Sportscar, isnt she a beauty?
its great :D
http://www.ifrance.com/lmspm/24auto02/equipes/spyker/double12_front.jpg

yeah that car kickass wonder how much stages have turbo's you can put on her :D

im not sure, but im going to find that out :wink:

GREAT:D, i founded a movie from spyker, and it has only one problem, ITS FRENCH, but check it out, the car is great 8)
http://turbo.fr/Turbo_statique/essais/auto/224/#

WWELL, DON"T U EVER COMPARE A EASY SPYKER TO AN F-40!! PLEASE!!!

Who said i compared a Spyker with a Ferrari :? ?

yeah that car kickass wonder how much stages have turbo's you can put on her

When you order your Spyker ( let's take the C8 Double 12S ), you'll have 5 engine output options:

Stage 1=400 hp
2=450
3=500
4=550
5=620

Air intakes! You Said A F-40 have's much air intakes to , and most of you guys liked that car to!

Well , i think you're taking about something tottaly diffrent there!
But ok , Sorry but i don't think ya can compare thuis car to a Jag..

The looks : Sorry but sports carts must have AGRESSIVE Eyes ( head lights)
now , I don't understand the eye's of that Spyker :| it's totally crap ( sorry opinion)

And question , Do we see the car next year back on the track of lemans? hope for them a better result ;)

Greetz : Danny!

Dark your not right about 1 thing!

Well you sad you want to see a race between a Compareable Ferrari against a Spyker!
Don't Forget Spyker is dutch , And NEVER EVER will reach the TOP like Ferrari is in now!

I don't know but first if a Spyker would EVER getting better than a Lambo or ferrari , BIG Manufactures , like FIAT , FERRARI , VW / AUDI , LAMBO...
Do something with Spyker that it's not even easy competition for them!
They're not crazy!

Money rules the world it's simple , Why do you think it's going bad with Fiat and other Manufactures ,and you think Spyker will ever grow and grow , well that's only possible at one way i think!
If someone ( what should happend if they are getting big) like VW/AUDI / FIAT or even a Japanese manufacturer like tOYOTA buy Spyker...

Else i swear to god that the competition is MUCH to high! Ansd yeah were talking about money here!

Look it's quite simple , IF IT'S / He's Dutch you have a problem , Were a to smnall country !
Why do you think Jos Verstappen isn't coming further in the F1? Well i can tell you he's better than Wilson But Wilson is already going to Jaguar F1 !! , You know why>??

Becuase he's English !! Betterfor the sponsors , more sponsors, more.... indeed MONEy!
So i can tell you spyker has a problem to if they are want to make from Spyker a Manufacturer like Ferrari or something is....
I don't think Spyker will do that , i Tyhink Spyker stay's for what it is now , just alittle , but nice , Manufacturer , and i'll hope that!

Were just to small , NO MOney in this country , if you're gonna compare that to , Italy , or England , or France ect...
Were not important you know???

Greetz : Danny!

I sort of agree with that... still, Spyker remains excellent. :wink:

You Said A F-40 have's much air intakes to

Exactly. Can you call that comparing?

I don't understand the eye's of that Spyker it's totally crap

I've seen much cars with headlights like the Spyker, inculding Ferrari and Jaguar. So, i can't really see where you're going with that ( as you are such a big Italia fan. ).

From what i heard, they are going back to Le Mans, but don't get your hopes up, i don't think Spyker is going to perform better than this year :( . Then let's just hope all Ferrari's will crash ( sorry if i hurt your feelings :wink: . ) :twisted: .

Well you sad you want to see a race between a Compareable Ferrari against a Spyker!

I can't remember me saying that. And i also didn't said Spyker will keep on groing. Don't confuse me with Marshall. Although i do think Spyker will grow ( now don't immediately write a comment back, in wich you're saying that i said that Spyker is going to be bigger than Ferrari, cause i didn't. ). I think Spyker will sell all cars they produce, with not to much effort. The cars look amazing ( so enough rich people will buy them. ) and costs a big prize ( so Spyker makes money. ). Now, i didn't said: They will grow . I only think this will happen.[/b]

Dark your not right about 1 thing!

Well you sad you want to see a race between a Compareable Ferrari against a Spyker!
Don't Forget Spyker is dutch , And NEVER EVER will reach the TOP like Ferrari is in now!

I !

U can say that if u wanted, but Ferrari took time to, give Spyker some time, and it will grow, in the past few days, thanks to me and Darkvennom666, Much more people know what a Spyker is, just wait and see what happens to Spyker, it is going to be a great Sportscar producer, just like Ferrari, Almost everyone likes Spyker, accept u and a few others

Yeah but you don't understand 1 thing!

I don't think Spyker come's that far as Ferrari did because the Competition is to big!
So VW or Audi or something schould buy Spyker and then they have a change else they really don't have any change , i think you have to be realistic for this!

Greetz : Danny!

Ofcourse Spyker has a change, if people give it, so if some rich people reading this, go buy urself a nice Spyker C8 Doulbe 12, i asure u its a great pleasure to drive in, and everyone will watch your car

it is going to be a great Sportscar producer, just like Ferrari, Almost everyone likes Spyker, accept u and a few others

maybe... but more people love ferrari, Maserati or lamborghini. And when you spend so much on a car - you have to love it!
And although its a small point - which would you prefer - Dutch or Italian?

the most only love ferrari and lambourghini cause those names are familiar, and a Car is a symbol of welth, and richness, so they buy a Ferrari so people know u are very rich,
if Spyker is famous all over the world, much more people want to buy a Spyker then they do today

Yes that's what i wanted to say guys Mallon is right!!!

PLease go Promote that dutch cars somewere that's no prob. and I hope for u guys that Spyker willo grow EVER?

BUt i can tell u that's not gonna happen!! or VW or something have to buy that!!

Be realistic:

That Imagi that A Ferrari has is VERy hard to get that away!!
Spyker will NEVER reach that! indeed because it's dutch!

Make a nice website about it or something and help them promote , but if they need guys like u , SORRY but then Spyker can forget it 4 ever!!
I'm not complaining or something about Spyker but....... I think you guys aren't realistic!

And i'm soprry but this is AGIABN peace of ****!!

Sorry , But i know for sure , Ferrari Will NEVER put a headlight like the Spyker has in their car Models! And they never did!!!
So that's bullshit!

And guys i'll say it again: I Don't HATE spyker!! but if most people here would be realistic they know it will never be a Ferrari! OR even get that Image of a Ferrari!!
It would never be so big as Ferrari , it will NEVER be so succesfull like Ferrari!!

They are just FAR and FAR ahead! and like i already said! : That's only possible if VW or something would buy Spyker but if that's gonna happen proberly than there is no spyker anymore example : ---> LAMBORGHINI ;)

Hope u understand me now!!!!

Greetz : Danny!

Anmd please stop sayin things about that time!!

Because times are changed that's again totally bullshit!

Ferrari WORkED MUCH MUCH HARDER than Spyker will EVER do , to get an IMAGE and Car Manufacturer...like it is now...

Don't know or you know the whole history of Ferrari??
I swear that times were difrent!! And times were MUCH harder than now!!
Ferrari Didn't need 50+ years to get populair ect. they became that BECAUSE THE MAN THE LEGEND ENZO FERRARI created an Engine ect. that was @# Fast and defeated Auto union and Mercedes!!!
Ferrari Get VERY POPULAIR because they've won the Mille miglia , And their 1st F1 races they became world champion and in that time i think the competition was even HARDER!!

SO to be realistic! : Ferrari is populair for 50 + years already!!
Ferrari NEVER had that time like Spyker have's NOW!!

So conclusion! : Till; now FErrari DID EVERYTHING BETTER than Spyker!!

Ferrari wouldn't be LAST in the 24 hours of Le Mans!!

Pff ya must know diffrence between the times when Ferrari started and Spyker!

I'm Sorry but i think your really wrong!!

Greetz : Danny!

Dark your not right about 1 thing!

Well you sad you want to see a race between a Compareable Ferrari against a Spyker!
Don't Forget Spyker is dutch , And NEVER EVER will reach the TOP like Ferrari is in now!

I don't know but first if a Spyker would EVER getting better than a Lambo or ferrari , BIG Manufactures , like FIAT , FERRARI , VW / AUDI , LAMBO...
Do something with Spyker that it's not even easy competition for them!
They're not crazy!

Money rules the world it's simple , Why do you think it's going bad with Fiat and other Manufactures ,and you think Spyker will ever grow and grow , well that's only possible at one way i think!
If someone ( what should happend if they are getting big) like VW/AUDI / FIAT or even a Japanese manufacturer like tOYOTA buy Spyker...

Else i swear to god that the competition is MUCH to high! Ansd yeah were talking about money here!

Look it's quite simple , IF IT'S / He's Dutch you have a problem , Were a to smnall country !
Why do you think Jos Verstappen isn't coming further in the F1? Well i can tell you he's better than Wilson But Wilson is already going to Jaguar F1 !! , You know why>??

Becuase he's English !! Betterfor the sponsors , more sponsors, more.... indeed MONEy!
So i can tell you spyker has a problem to if they are want to make from Spyker a Manufacturer like Ferrari or something is....
I don't think Spyker will do that , i Tyhink Spyker stay's for what it is now , just alittle , but nice , Manufacturer , and i'll hope that!

Were just to small , NO MOney in this country , if you're gonna compare that to , Italy , or England , or France ect...
Were not important you know???

Greetz : Danny!

I don't intend to have a flame wars or something but:

You don't like your country

Ferrari ownz, yes, but spyker approach is different, and there are better cars than ferrari, and lambo, those companies dont mind your oppinion, they only care about their potential customers, an example is Pagani, the Zonda is a hell great car, some people dont like the desing, but the buyers do, so pagani deals with them, supercar companies dont look forward to have millions of sales, and Ferrari's were not intended for sales, they were intended for performance, and sure there are awesome ferrari performers, but they don't have the crown, and if they get it, they are not gonna hold it, not for long, if i could buy a supercar, for sure i could and would buy several, and i'd take the Edonis over the Enzo, it's more up to my taste but I DON'T WANNA IMPOSE MY TASTE IN THE FORUM, YOU.......read for yourself.

You know what a Bienheim is? is the same case, if you put to chose a Bienheim and a Benz, most ppl will take the Benz, while a knowing buyer with some money will get the Bienheim, it will only get the attention from the people the owner wants to.

The Spyker ownz, it's a great design, may not be the most beautifucl car in the world, but for me the F-40 Isn't either, i find the shape too predictable for a supercar, i find the profile written in some other cars, and it would be the basic sketch/layout for a fast car, the first picture in your mind

Anmd please stop sayin things about that time!!

Because times are changed that's again totally bull[censored]!

Ferrari WORkED MUCH MUCH HARDER than Spyker will EVER do , to get an IMAGE and Car Manufacturer...like it is now...

Don't know or you know the whole history of Ferrari??
I swear that times were difrent!! And times were MUCH harder than now!!
Ferrari Didn't need 50+ years to get populair ect. they became that BECAUSE THE MAN THE LEGEND ENZO FERRARI created an Engine ect. that was @# Fast and defeated Auto union and Mercedes!!!
Ferrari Get VERY POPULAIR because they've won the Mille miglia , And their 1st F1 races they became world champion and in that time i think the competition was even HARDER!!

SO to be realistic! : Ferrari is populair for 50 + years already!!
Ferrari NEVER had that time like Spyker have's NOW!!

So conclusion! : Till; now FErrari DID EVERYTHING BETTER than Spyker!!

Ferrari wouldn't be LAST in the 24 hours of Le Mans!!

Pff ya must know diffrence between the times when Ferrari started and Spyker!

I'm Sorry but i think your really wrong!!

Greetz : Danny!

Enzo Ferrari didn't care (at the beggining) about their street cares, they were just means to finance his race program.

Also, ferrari worked really hard, but nowaday EVERYONE WHO WANTS SUCCESS HAS TO WORK HARD

Competition is harder now, why, because you have more rules, and the only reason Ferrari is winning is because not everyone has that much money, but hings will change, you will see some surprises.

Alfa, for the last time: Don't confuse me with Marshall, i never said Spyker will reach the top like Ferrari, Lamborghini, etc. I only said that i THINK they will grow. I didn't said that they will become as famous and big as Ferrari. For the last time, please, don't confuse me with Marshall. He is the one that's saying all the stuff you are complaining about. Read all my posts, after that, read his. You'll see i'm right. Thank you :wink: .

And FR500, i could have never said that better than you just did :) .

Yeah Sure Fr500 Because of thwe rules competition is higher NO WAY!

Put this rule in the F1 we will see who are the best !
1 TEAM builds Engine Chassis , THE WHOLE CAR!!

Welcome the most succesfull F1 team will be for thje next 25 years world champion agian!

McLaren says hmmm i Wanty the best engine there is ok!
Ferrari habe to build theor own chassis and engine and car ECT ECT>

Money hmm , Toyota has more money!
Money isn't in this case the prob , the top of F1 now , like WILLIAMS and McLaren have enough money you know what i mean? with more money the car won't improve more??
So that's of course niot the case by Minardi!


And about spyker that's just what i everytime try to say!
INDEED THEIR APPROACH IS DIFFRENt! That;s why you can't compare that manufacturer to Ferrari!!! It's simple just totally diffrent!!

But in this case sorry dark if i confued you with Dutch. but I was just wanna changed your mind becuase that stories i heard Getting as big as Ferrari and wiil defeat Ferrari over 10 years ect./
IS BULLSHIT and they must know that to !because logical that's no gonna happen if VW or something wouldn't buy it , And i don't hope VW buy it than Spyker is gonna be changed !! The most style i like of a Manufacturer is THEIR OWN STYLE!
Look what's happened to Lamborghini :S just really bad!!
And that the F-40 is the most beautiful car is of course my opinion i never said you must think like that to!

Yeah indeed everyone who wants succes must work hard but that times EVERYTHIONG was harder!! Even to drive a F1 car now is simple if u gonna compare with 50 years back!!
the financial crisis of Ferrari was more a problem than it is by Spyker now , AND THEY DID DEFEAT AUTO UNION AND MERCEDES WITH 2 F1 races Experience against 10+ years experience and $ 1000 <-- from Ferrari against $1.000.000 from auto unnion or mercedes!!
Ferrari just did a better job than Spyker did now! Hard but true!

Agian i don't hate spyker but some things they said here just wasn't true!
I only don't like the desgin of that Spyker!!

Greetz : Danny
!

Money isn't in this case the prob , the top of F1 now , like WILLIAMS and McLaren have enough money you know what i mean? with more money the car won't improve more??


Actually, Toyota has a way, way higher budget than all other marquees competing in F1. That's why the top F1 teams are frightenend for them. More money means more testing. And we all know testing means more experience, better results, etc.

But in this case sorry dark if i confued you with Dutch

I thought you'd never say that. I told you many times to not confuse me with him, but still, you did. Multiple times. Please, don't do this anymore, it's quite irritating.

that stories i heard Getting as big as Ferrari and wiil defeat Ferrari over 10 years ect

Look at my comments.... Done? Now you see i never said that? And before you also start blaming me about the many Spyker topics we now all the sudden have.... I only made one, the first. Marshall and McLaren made the rest.

Ferrari just did a better job than Spyker did now! Hard but true!

Yes, they did. Ferrari also was an instant hit. Spyker is definately not, i know. But that doesn't mean Spyker won't get any respect or succes in the future. We all can't tell what;s going to happen, only time will tell.

With some words???I don't like them!!!

What's the use of that comment? 'I don't like them'.... So? Give an explanation, don't just say you don't like them. I don't like Ferrari, would that be apreciated in a Ferrari topic? I don't think it's any use without any explanations. So, what is it? It bet you find them ugly... Ok, i'm cool with that, your opinion. Spyker is Dutch? That's crap! I don't like Italia, so i don't like Ferrari, Fiat and all the others. Please, don't say they're shitty because Spyker's Dutch. I've heard that to many times.

Dark!

We talked about that Spyker proberly not getting as big as Ferrari is now and not so populair ect. THAT"S BECAUSE IT'S DUTCH!!

That we don;t like THE CAR ITSELF! Is because i don't like the desgin ect.
Schumi proberly mean this too!!

Greetz : Danny!

I know Alfa, but some people mean the don't like it because it's Dutch. They aren't talking about getting big, like we do. I mean, when someone doesn't like a car ( liking a car, not that the marquee isn't getting big. ), only because it's Dutch.... Does that makes any sense to you Alfa? I don't think that's fair. I know Schumi probably doesn't like the car beacause of it's design, but some people don't like it because of it's origin, that really ticks me off!

Well i think your quite right now about what your sayin!

BUT : except germany i think you can really speak OF ITALIAN cars yu know?
ALL italian cars have something the same , butt are all still diffrent!

And for example if u take a Japanese car , It's really totally diffrent!!

We can really speak about i think Italian and Japanese cars! And we mean sort of Style car with it!

Now we can't Speak of Dutch cars because we only have ( a really CAR builder , so not something like donkervoort ) 1 can manufacturer and that's Spyker!
So we can;t speak over a Dutch style ya know what i mean?

So i'think i have to agree with you you can't disslike the Spyker because it's Dutch!
But i think you CAN have thoughts like : How the factory gonna grow or not ect. BECAUSE it's Dutch because we , our little country can't deliver any competition to germany , France , Italia and Even England! you know what i mean?

But ok , your right that you can't disslike TEH CAR , because it's Dutch because you can't place a Style to it , because Holland don't have a own style .......... YET!<--- ( hope)

greetz : Danny!

Now that's what i'm trying to say, my friend. Like the words are coming right out of my own mouth :) .

1. Once again, DarkVenom is right.
2. FR500, you are right too. Could you also give a link to the Bienheim? I haven't heard of it, and I'm interested.

I explained in an other topic about Spyker.All the forum is fullfilled with these Spyker's....I don't like them means that Alfa said and because they are looking butt ugly for me!!!These front lights are too ugly!!!And alfa is right in his previous posts about my explanations! :wink:

All the forum is fullfilled with these Spyker's....I

And i bet you think that's all because of me, am i right? Well, i already explained it to Alfa, now let me explain it to you. That is not my fault. Marshall started the Dutch supercar madness, not me. I was a RSportsCar member a few days before him. During that time, i joined different discussions and made my own topic: Viper SRT-10 -vs- Spyker C8 Double 12S. I never tried to 'promote' them, i wanted to know what people thought of them. After this, Marshall joined RSportsCars and he did promote Spyker ( and Donkervoort ). He left pics behind at almost every post, 99% of all his posts are about them and he created 2 topic about them. McLaren made one to. Now you see? I didn't do it. Alfa already blamed me for this, but i explained this to him as well. And now he knows it was Marshall, i hope you do to. Now, can we please drop the whole Spyker situation, please?

1. Once again, DarkVenom is right.
2. FR500, you are right too. Could you also give a link to the Bienheim? I haven't heard of it, and I'm interested.

Not really, i only read in magazines, all i can say is Chrysler V8 engines, and wilton carpets, delightful oldschool exterior style

Update: the brand is Bristol, not Blenheim, i mistook the names

Oh, I know Bristol. Excellent cars indeed. And they have V10 engines.
But I've never heard of a 'Bienheim'... :?

the only problem with the V10 is that its american - an 8 liter Chrysler engine

Yes, I know... but they have altered it and it performs a lot better than it does in American cars. It could be better, though.

No,not only you Dark...Dutchmarsall too.But if you want to advertise or something about your fav cars I don't really get annoyed.Do anything you want.It is moderators job to decide what to do about it!

the only problem with the V10 is that its american - an 8 liter Chrysler engine

My mistake, they are 10 Cyl, but what's wrong with being american? the Viper engine was first sent to lamborghini to be tunned, but it turned to be too unreliable, so the design whats dropped and was tunned in america, and even if displacement is very high, the engine is great, the low range torque is like the SL55 with the V8 Kompressor, and the car doesnt need more than the 500hp stock, but the engine can be tunned a hell lot more, with far ease, the viper is a lot of fun now, not like the car it replaces, only race car drivers could unleash it's potential, and it's fuel economy isn't that baaad, isn't as good as the vette, but is not that bad.

By the way, its Blenheim, i spelled it wrong

you are right about that.
But Bristol Fighter is like the most british car you can buy - when I think of it i dont think of american muscle cars.
I just dont like the fact that it isnt britich made - not specific to it being american!
hope you get what im saying.

By the way, its Blenheim, i spelled it wrong
Well, could you give a link or at least some info about this company?

But if you want to advertise or something about your fav cars I don't really get annoyed

Well, i'm glad you think that way, but just to let you know: I haven't even tried to promote Spyker. I made one topic about them, that's all. Remember that, please.

Only one topic???I don't hink so...The whole forum have topics about Spyker's from you or Dutchmarshall.Anyway I don't want to continue that!

Too bad for you you don't think so, cause it's true. You, Alfa, and a few other won't stop blaming me for all the Dutch supercar topics. But you just don't get it, do you? I only made 1. Only 1. Search for the authors on the Dutch supercar topics. You'll see.

Well, I skipped the last two pages of this forum, just getting too lenthy to hold my attention. Everything seemed to be very trite as well :? Anyway, hurrah for Dutchmarshall! Spykers are AWESOME! Thank you so much for bringing all of our attention to them! I never heard of them or the Donkervoorts before and like both very much! Keep on rocking man! 8)

Check the sig

The spyker is a great car, its absolutely fabulos, The only reason why many people have not heard of them is because not many people know aobut it, i think spyker should let An American(since its the worlds largest market) car magazine do a test drive then poeple will know about it and love it like all of us on this post :roll:

The only reason why many people have not heard of them is because not many people know aobut it

interesting conclusion.

LOL... :lol:

hey you know its true, go to any country and ask people about spyker no one will have a clue

Alfa Romeo 155, GET A LIVE, dont try to DISS NE ON MY ON TOPICS, I'M NOT DISSING U TO,WHATS UR PROBLEM???,i did nothing wrong, only said my opinion, and my predictions of the future of Spycker, ofcourse i know Spycker has almost no change on in the Sportscarbusiness, but Spycker can try it, and im helping it whit almost everything i can, cause there are more ppl then on this site that will like the car for sure, and some of it will buy the car,
BUT ALFA GO GET A LIFE,
or if ur still injured cause that dumb VW Golf driver(i supported u 2 then)
OR IF U DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO DOWNLOAD A GAME AND PLAY IT ONLINE, try www.ausgamers.com and download Americas Army 1.9, if u have plenty of time u can play much and go to top, so ur not bothering me anymore

Only one topic???I don't hink so...The whole forum have topics about Spyker's from you or Dutchmarshall.Anyway I don't want to continue that!
yeah i know its much, i was planning to stop that, and i go find other unknown cars to make topics of,so i promote unknown cars :wink: cause thats fun, and i want to give sportscars with not much fans, and even in holland most ppl dont know Spycker!!!, so i promoted that car to 8)

hmm.. keej

I'm NOT trying to diss you on your topics YOU made the fault to say things that really looked like a piece of sh*T!!
I was saying the true about that!! and if that's not how you LIKE to see it YOUR problem!!
You were open 100 of Dutch car topics and i think half of the forum didn't know were you talking about!
Oh yeah and ofcourse Spycker van try it I only said my opinion u did not you were talking about facts not opinion's anymore! and some were wrong so i made a conversation of it :D
In my eye's you open hundred's of Spycker of Donkervoort topic's it wasn't going about a discussion but in my eye's and more ppl i looked more to Promote spycker only and i dissliked THAT yes!
Why you can behave yourself more normale to schumi if he had the same problem agianst you as i had!??
I'M glad to hear you planned to stop that! i like it very much if you just conversate with the rest of us with other topic's about other cars , and open less topic's about that Spycker ect.
And i must say sometimes i was Over reacting , but i mentioned you already know why i did that , sorry for that!

Ohw , and btw who is alfa 155? :P

And now i leave this for what it is , :D country mates now... just feel sh*T because i'm talking english agianst someone from the same country!
BUt nevermind!

nu stukie 155 blazen :D

Laterzz

Greetz : Danny!

Alfa if half the forum dont know about Spyker sint that a good thing? People come to forums to learn stuff about cars. You should be thanking dutchmarshall, because if im not mistaken you hadnt heard of them beofre.
Now, He only opened a few topics, NOT 100, and as i said before no-one forces anyone to open posts.

Now Ive had to delete a few posts in this forum but I dont want to have to lock this topic so please stop bickering like little children :D.

Yeah i heard of them before! I Didn't like the design of the car but of course it's a small little dutch car so i liked to see how t6hat goes!

Only why trhis conversation is started is because there were made some stupid , comparisons or someone said things who are really wrong!

And Your right people here want to learn about cars , that's nice , and it's of course ok , they open new topic's only they opened 6 or something everywere i came i saw , Spycker , or donkervoort or things like that!

Well as you said people came here to learn about cars or to discuss about cars , not to look how people Promote cars on this forum!

I did only said that , That's all!

Greetz : Danny!

Look at your F*CKING Screen Name! Who the HELL is promoting certain cars now Alfa!!!?
You are a grade 'A' jackass, I think it's official now. :evil:

first : my name is not f*cking :) My name is relaxx!! :D

Then i wasn't talking about my screenname here!
He open topic after topic ect. and that was bothering me and Schumi and we told that nobody even said the word screenname here :S
He said by hisself he mentioned it was no fun anymore , don't know or ya know whut ya talking about!
I'm not promoting alfa Romeo 156 GTA!
That's just a car i love , so put it as my name!
Must place some name , and if ya a Big Italian car Fan your not gonna putVW as your name :S
You saw me opening 7 topics about Alfa? And thatwas not the biggest prob for me... It was some stupid comparisons and talking about some WRONG things and i told him that!
THAT's ALL!?

...like little children.