What does everyone think? Wich one would you prefer? Oh, almost forgot to tell: The Spyker must have the stage III engine output, don't forget that!

Sorry dark!

i vote for the Viper :)
Looks MUCH better to me!!
I don't like the design of that Spyker! Sorry :(

Are you a bit Spyker fan Dark?
Is our second conversation about Spyker already ;)

Greetz : Danny!

And i think , if i look to that much reactions you get, Not much people here know the Spyker ;)

greetz: Danny!

same here Alfa Romeo 156 GTA i prefre the viper nicer it's more stylish :D

I don't like the design of that Spyker! Sorry

Alfa, how can you say such a thing!?! You're Dutch for god's sake :wink: ! Actually, i'd prefer the Viper's design too, but when it comes to performance....

Are you a bit Spyker fan Dark?

Nope. I do like them alot, because it's Dutch and i like their cars, but i can't be called a fan.

And i think , if i look to that much reactions you get, Not much people here know the Spyker

I think you're right. No one seems to know any of their cars, or Spyker itself. Oh well, maybe in the future our supercars will get more famous.... :(

And don't just judge the cars cause of their looks, don't forget the performance! Thank you :) .

LOL... we also have a company here in Greece, called ELBO... but it only makes buses, not cars, so it's no use.

PS: I don't know what a Spyker is. :?

ELBO? Hmmmm, i don't think i've ever heard of that. Probably cause they're busses :wink: .

Yep, just like i thaught. It's a pitty, they are wonderfull cars, i think. Please, visit the following: www.spykercars.nl Don't worry, it's in English, not Dutch :) .

Hee Vennom, sorry for you i vote for the Spycker, that car rox :wink:


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Wow... :shock:
I have to admit that it's beautiful and very special!
Only 25 Spykers in 2002!!! :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
And very promising specifications!
I like it! I like it ALOT!!! :shock:

I never said i'd take the Viper of the Spyker ( untill now: I'd take the Viper over the Spyker :lol: ). I only take it cause Vipers are my fave cars. If they weren't, i'd definately take a Spyker over the Vipers. The old snakes were the true Vipers, i don't like the new ones. They lost their touch, their beautifull, agressive, powerfull looks. I think the Spyker is a better performing car as well. But still, i'd take the Viper, just because they are Vipers, not because of their looks, nor performance.[/b]

Haha, LOL! Great Jim! Fantastic :D ! I'm pleased you like it. After all, it's Dutch! Did you already vote :wink: ?

Here is a picture of the C8 Double s12:
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/large/1498-2.jpg

And here an picture of the viper srt 10:
http://www.fast-autos.net/dodge/vipersrt10.jpg

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Do both belong to the top supercars or what!?! Dang that are some beauties! By the way, did you spot the Spyker on the background? It's the 'R' version, it entered the Le Mans '02 and '03.

yeah it is, i didnt notis, but here is the full picture of the Spyker that entered the le mans:
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/ht.perso/lemans/2002/didier2002/spyker.jpg


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Yes, that's the one. Beautifull, isn't it?

Wheeww, i think that car is a great performer, i just found out about it when i dowloaded the full fast-autos.net site, i found some pics and, well, the car is awesome, but the viper is not bad at all, in red it looks bad but put a black one and i take it

The viper can survive almost any challenge you can think, obviously the LeMans Spiker would kill the car in every aspect, but as far as road cars, i guess the viper can fight back good enough

Lol i agree with FR500, the spyker looks great, and has great performences, i dont know the axcact performences, but when i saw spyker in le mans, enen when it has lost a weel and drove half a track whit it, proves that spyker has a strong carrosorie to


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wow half a track with 3 tire lol do you know at what speed was he going :lol:

now by coparing photo by photo i'd think i'd go with the spyker :D

i guess the viper can fight back good enough

I don't know FR500.... Look at the specs of any Spyker, doesn't matter wich one. But i suggest you should look for the C8 Double 12S ( stage III engine output. ). Then compare then with the Vipers'. I'm not sure if the Viper can keep up.

wow half a track with 3 tire lol do you know at what speed was he going :lol:

Yeah, but that is great, isn't it?
if a Viper or Ferrari had the same problem they crashed within 2 seconds, but spyker lives on:P


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if a Viper or Ferrari had the same problem they crashed within 2 seconds

Haha, i don't think so. The Viper had problems like those plenty of times, while they kept on driving. But about the Spyker, they are making some improvement. No single Spyker even finished the Le Mans '02, but they did with the Le Mans '03. Maybe they'll place first next year, who knows :wink: .

i love spyker but i find that for the beauty have the cars the logo sucks

Maybe i can explain why the logo doesn't fit the car ( even though i don't agree. ).... Here's the story behind Spyker:

IN 1898, JACOBUS AND HENDRIK-JAN SPIJKER, COACH BUILDERS IN AMSTERDAM, PIONEERED THEIR FIRST BENZ-ENGINED MOTOR CAR, AND WON IMMEDIATE ACCLAIM FOR THE CRAFTSMANSHIP OF THEIR BODYWORK. THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE GOLDEN STATE COACH IN 1898, TO COMMEMORATE THE FORTHCOMING CORONATION OF QUEEN WILHELMINA, AND STILL IN USE TODAY, MARKED THE TURNING POINT FROM THEIR COACH BUILDING ACTIVITIES TO CAR MANUFACTURING. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE BROTHERS REGISTERED THEIR BUSINESS UNDER THE NAME SPYKER, WRITTEN WITH A ‘Y’ FOR EASIER RECOGNITION IN FOREIGN MARKETS.

THE 1903 60HP GRAND PRIX RACER WAS AN IMPORTANT HISTORICAL MILESTONE, FEATURING THE WORLD’S FIRST SIX CYLINDER ENGINE AS WELL AS PERMANENT FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE. OTHER SPYKER MODELS FOLLOWED: WITH THEIR CHARACTERISTIC CIRCULAR RADIATORS, THEY ENJOYED PARTICULAR SUCCESS IN BRITAIN AND THE DUTCH EAST INDIES. A SECOND PLACE IN THE GRUELLING 1907 PEKING-PARIS RAID PUT SPYKER FIRMLY ON THE INTERNATIONAL MAP. AFTER A TEMPORARY SWITCH TO AVIATION IN THE PERIOD
1914-1918, DURING WHICH THE COMPANY CONSTRUCTED 100 FIGHTER AIRCRAFT AND 200 AIRCRAFT ENGINES, CAR PRODUCTION RESUMED IN 1919, WITH LUXURY MODELS WHICH WERE HIGHLY INDIVIDUALISTIC IN TERMS OF CHARACTER AND BUILD QUALITY, SUPPLIED TO ROYALTY AROUND THE GLOBE. CUSTOMERS INCLUDED THE ROYAL STABLES OF H.M. QUEEN WILHELMINA.

BY THEN, THE SLOGAN ‘NULLA TENACI INVIA EST VIA’ (‘FOR THE TENACIOUS NO ROAD IS IMPASSABLE’) WAS INTRODUCED ON THE RADIATOR BADGES OF SPYKER PRODUCTS. THE ULTIMATE MAYBACH-ENGINED C4 MODEL ENJOYED RECOGNITION AS ‘THE ROLLS-ROYCE OF THE CONTINENT’, BUT ALSO PROVED ITS SPORTY CHARACTER BY SETTING THE BROOKLANDS DOUBLE-TWELVE SPEED RECORD IN 1922, CLOCKING AN AVERAGE SPEED OF 119 KM/H IN THE HANDS OF S.F. EDGE. THE LAST SPYKER CARS WERE BUILT IN 1925, AFTER WHICH THE COMPANY CEASED TRADING. ITS RACING AND AVIATION HERITAGE IS NOW PASSED ON TO THE NEW SPYKERS.

That's Spykers' history. They started building aircrafts and ceased building cars untill recently. That explains their logo.

i love spyker but i find that for the beauty have the cars the logo sucks
Ey Mclaren, befor u make fun of Spyker, look for details first, my friend Dark explained it earlier,
Spyker originally made Cars, but after a few years they started to make airplanes, but since a few years they becane to make cars, based on the design of an airplane, look my Avatar, its an Airplane proppellor, and go to http://www.spykercars.nl and go to the original history of spyker, there is only one airplane standin and thats to bad, but its a Spyker(on plane is written Spijker, its old name of Spyker)

i love spyker but i find that for the beauty have the cars the logo sucks
Ey Mclaren, befor u make fun of Spyker, look for details first, my friend Dark explained it earlier,
Spyker originally made Cars, but after a few years they started to make airplanes, but since a few years they becane to make cars, based on the design of an airplane, look my Avatar, its an Airplane proppellor, and go to http://www.spykercars.nl and go to the original history of spyker, there is only one airplane standin and thats to bad, but its a Spyker(on plane is written Spijker, its old name of Spyker)

if a Viper or Ferrari had the same problem they crashed within 2 seconds

Haha, i don't think so. The Viper had problems like those plenty of times, while they kept on driving. But about the Spyker, they are making some improvement. No single Spyker even finished the Le Mans '02, but they did with the Le Mans '03. Maybe they'll place first next year, who knows :wink: .

I centanly hope so :lol:
cause i think that Spyker has the most progres of racecars in the world, in less than 5 years they made it to le mans, and finished it, and build 3 new types :roll:

As far as i know, Spyker's back since 2 or 3 years. And they made 4 different models :) .