I'm Subaru fan, so I like STi better evev though the Evo is cheaper and handles better. The STi is faster though, and I think it looks better. The two are very fast, handle well, and have great off-road capabilities all for an affordable price. Post your opinions.

i like the subaru sti but im not crazy about it i like way more the evo

EVO for me............
explanations search in the forum ...
this topic have been repeating itself for 5 times now !!!!

evos have always been better since they started makin impretzas and evos evos stand out better and look more wkd.

I like the Evo better. Although it doesn't look as good as the previous model did. The same for the Impreza, the old models are more good looking than the new ones. Bu that's just my opinion.

I like the Sti better.I really like how the new Sti looks.You can't argue with 300hp from a 4 cylinder

in du 2 movies fast and du furious and 2 fast 2 furious ive never seen a STI and du Evo was du star of du show in 2 Fast 2 Furious

:arrow: :wink: OF COURSE, IF THEY PUT AN STi IN THE MOVIE, IT WOULD GET OUT OF THE SCREEN!!! TOO DANGEROUS. CAMERAS CAN'T CATCH IT!!!!!

:arrow: :wink: IMPREZA007

just saw something interesting on TopGear last night - a Focus RS beats both the Evo and the Subaru round their track :shock:
I was surprised by that.

But between these 2 id have the evo. The performance difference is negligible, so styling is the only difference. I prefer the Evo's looks, so I chose EVo.

Now that's what i call amazing! Are you sure it was a Focus RS :shock: !?!

That's indeed weird. Perhaps you should ckeck it out again Mallon! :shock:

Anyway, I choose the EVO. I think it's better overall, both in looks and performance.

i will try to find it ripped in some video site

i was surprised myself - but i am not mistaken - if ever you see the TopGear tracktimes of the cars over the last few seasons, you see it for yourself. A margin of around a 2 seconds.

I'm incredibly astonished. The EVO is said to compete with Porsches and Ferraris around a track! I've never heard anything that good about the Focus RS! :? :shock:

That's even more astonishing :shock: ! Porsches and Ferrari's, those are the big boy's toys!

Some guys from a car magazine here in Greece raced around a track with an EVO (it was either the 7 or the 8, I can't remember) and a Porsche GT3, and the EVO did a slightly better time! With the same driver!!

Man, that's truelly amazing! I never, never thaught an Evo was capable of doing something like that....

Well, it seems it is...

hmm. difficult for me this time, but cause im a slight more Subaru Fan then a Evo fan I chosed for the Subaru this time,

And i found a great picture of Subara

http://www.automagazine.be/une/01/0133/pix/une.jpg
And look closely to the liscense plate, he Dutch :lol: just like me :)

and a picture of the evo, but hes pritty smal, sorry about that

http://autozine.kyul.net/Car_Photo/Mitsubishi/Evo7_2.jpg


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du only reason Du focus rs beat du EVO and STI was because it had tat differencial if it didnt have tat du focus wudof been overlaped

SUBARU ALL THE WAY!!! WOOHOO! :D

i like the impreza better becouse of the sound and his gold rims with his blue body color
by the way:..there are more different impreza's (sti's) than lancers (evo)

the impreza wrx sti 1993-1994 =8
impreza 22b =1
impreza p1 =1
impreza s201 '99 =1
impreza s201 '00 =1 ( the s201 is also known as the electra one)
impreza s202 =1
impreza type-25 =1
impreza wrx sti wr1 =1
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total 15

and who know's what more they have
like a racing model (cusco impreza) and a rally car (impreza wrc)

so far i know the lancer only have the evo 1-8 and the evo 8 FQ330
so they have 9 evo's and they have a rally car

so that is actually the reason why i choose for the impreza

by the way: the lancer don't really have something unique,
like the impreza with his golden rims and the blue color,his big hood scoop , the pink sti sticker, and the sound of it. that's how you can see if it's a impreza or not.

but i must say: the lancer is a very good car just like the impreza but the impreza just have something unique that the lancer doesn't have..

greetz mike.

I like both i love the sti and evo i would much rather get the EVO though its cheapier faster and handles better too and its not governed to 148 mph like the sti,the evo tops 160+and has a 170mph speedo the STI has 160.For the 2005 model year the hp will now be 276 and tourqe to 286 awesome awesome awesome.I want a RED EVO RS so badly.The EVO is unique also it has a awesome 2.OL with 271hp and 273lbs tourque for 2004,for 2005 they have 276hp and 286 lbs tourque.Both cars are unique the STI and EVO

Also to reply to "IVlike" Mitsubishi has had alot of performance cars aswell starting with the EVO 1,the 3000GT all the way up to the awesome EVO 8.Toyota has had the supra and mazda has had the rx-7 the reason they stopped making the supra,3000gt and rx-7 is because the high cost was like 40+thousand.

SUBARU all the way!!!
id like the stylin better in an evo than on a subaru!
imm a subaru fan and i got to vote for my icon!!

Are any of you sti fans dissapointed at all? that the sti is governed to like :smt088 148 to 150mph top speed? i know i am i used to be a fan of the sti i still am a little bit but once i found out the top speed of the sti was and i was like wow you expect to pay 32k for a car you would atleast think it would go 155 at least.... :roll: :cry: ](*,) freakin governed to 148Mph i was really dissapointed,i emailed subaru they said its governed to 148mph and if you remove the govenor you would "void the engine warrenty" and some and if not all subaru dealserships in the U.S wont even let you go for a test drive! i emailed my local dealership and asked them if people can test drive the sti i didnt even get a response back......My friend wanted to test drive a sti in las vegas they said they cant let him or even any workers do that so he test drove the EVO he loved it and then come june first week he decided to trade it in for a sti.Most of the guys that work there are mean snobby b*tches that ignore you,so i said well :smt097 screw these guys so i went to our local mitsu dealership the people there are really cool,nice and friendly and you can take a test drive aswell! \:D/ land you can test drive the EVO!.EVO ALL THE WAY MAN THE EVO IS AWESOME.157+top speed no govenor so awesome,the awesome 4G63 can you guys name the STI'S engine? wthout going to some site? or magazine?

Wait til 2006-2007. This willchange to Subaru Impreza vs Evo vs Focus Cosworth! :wink:

the top speed doesn't really care me actually..couse on highways the top speed is 120 kmh :wink: :wink: :wink: :D .. but the impreza is cheaper here than the lancer..
and here in our town just opened a subaru dealer and i saw in the newspapers that you can test drive cars so...

and i don't know the impreza's engine's name becouse it don't care me..

... why did your friend trade his evo for a impreza???

Here in the U.S the EVO is much cheapier then the sti it starts at $26,799 thats a hell of a deal!.The engine name on the STI is the EJ25,the reason my friend traded his EVO in for a sti is because in his opinion the sti was better of a daily driver and he told me that i should get a EVO because it has better handleing goes faster and is chapier then the sti.

26,799 vs 32,000
thats 6,000 you save and with that 6,000 you can buy a turbotimer,EVO 7 taillights,boost gauge,bushar racing stage 1 or stage 2 performance package.

hp will be rated from 271 to 300 with stage 1 and tourque will be like 295 to 300.

you'll most likely never go past 120 even in a race the top speed doesn't matter to me, my biggest complaint about the STi is the 2.5 liter engine, it no longer has rallye car potential

i like the impreza better becouse of the sound and his gold rims with his blue body color
by the way:..there are more different impreza's (sti's) than lancers (evo)

the impreza wrx sti 1993-1994 =8
impreza 22b =1
impreza p1 =1
impreza s201 '99 =1
impreza s201 '00 =1 ( the s201 is also known as the electra one)
impreza s202 =1
impreza type-25 =1
impreza wrx sti wr1 =1
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total 15

and who know's what more they have
like a racing model (cusco impreza) and a rally car (impreza wrc)

so far i know the lancer only have the evo 1-8 and the evo 8 FQ330
so they have 9 evo's and they have a rally car

so that is actually the reason why i choose for the impreza


You forget the Evo VI Tommi Makinen edition (maybe just australia?), WRC rally car (on top of the VII car), Evo VII eXtreme (rare), plus i think the VI rally car still races.
More to the point who cares how many gen.s a car has had its the current model which matters (or the last 2 or 3), many great cars had no previous generations, eg. Mclaren F1, Ferrari Enzo etc.

for evos: FQ300, RS sprint, GSR and RS for all gens (i think)

TO "JIMBO JAMES" :

yeah you're right about the evo 6.5i forgot that sorry..
and ...you're right about that evo VI rally car.. but there are also current impreza WRC's that still race rally's.. :!:



TO "12 INCH PIANIST" :

but what's the different between the evo rs and the rs sprint?? and the evo and the gsr.. maybe there is a different..but i can't see it.....i mean actually differents on big scale.... like the type 25 with his sticker or the electra one with his cool bodykit. :!:

for evos: FQ300, RS sprint, GSR and RS for all gens (i think)
The FQ series came in on the 7 i think, but if they were in earlier models we did not get them here!

And the EVO VI rally car races with privateer's in the WRC, along with the V and even a couple of IV's !!!

Also, the TME evo6 was available europe-wide as well, and the eXtreme EVO's are based in England, and yes, very rare!

and IVIike, you are right when you say "and who know's what more they have" when refering to the Impreza's, there's the GT, RB5, ColinMcrae edition, WRX2000Turbo (NOT STi), in America I believe you have an RS model :? but do not know for sure and there is also the whole range of WRX's (not STi tuned) and GX/GL models! which are all road cars, as well you have the Prodrive tuned WRX's for National rallying, the Prodrive GrpN Impreza S10 (and S's 1-9!), the 44s (WRC car) and Prodrive do a number of special soprts imprezas for rallying in different countries as well!

whats the 6.5i, is that the VI tommi makinen where you are?
The Evo VIII comes with the option for gold rims. And like all the those "unique" features cant be faked with a few thousand dollars.

whats the 6.5i, is that the VI tommi makinen where you are?
The Evo VIII comes with the option for gold rims. And like all the those "unique" features cant be faked with a few thousand dollars.
I always thought the 6.5i was the car that the WRC cars were based on, because the public can buy an EVO8, but the team rallies the EVO8.5.
So I suppose the TME could well be an evo6.5i, but do not know for sure.

mitsubishi came out with the makkinen edition to celebrate their first place in WRC in the period between the lancer evo 6 and 7 .. later this car was also know as a evo 6.5

Yeah Jimbo the car is already unique,think about all the cash you save when you buy a EVO RS with no options,going aftermarket 26,799 vs 32,000 STI
thats 6,000 you save and with that 6,000 you can buy a turbotimer,EVO 7 taillights,boost gauge,bushar racing stage 1 or stage 2 performance package. All the EVOS are awesome,so is the STI,have you guys seen a pic of the new VIII RS,MR? Niiiccceee cars.

Yeah Jimbo the car is already unique,think about all the cash you save when you buy a EVO RS with no options,going aftermarket 26,799 vs 32,000 STI
thats 6,000 you save and with that 6,000 you can buy a turbotimer,EVO 7 taillights,boost gauge,bushar racing stage 1 or stage 2 performance package. All the EVOS are awesome,so is the STI,have you guys seen a pic of the new VIII RS,MR? Niiiccceee cars.

This is what confuses me, in the US the EVO is so much cheaper than the Impreza, but in the UK, the Impreza's are cheaper than the EVO's, a WRX STi new will cost you about £26,000, but an EVO FQ300 will cost you £28,000 and the WR1 costs £29,999 and the FQ330 is £32,000
:?

yeah but thats the FQs.
Also the car they use in the rallies is the WRC car , it is based on the VIII but is not meant to be another model of it.

actually the WRC lancer isn't based on the evo, it's based on the regular lancer ralliart

If your talking about the one right now rallying in the wrc then yes its based on the regular lancer platform and not the EVO's,i wonder why they dont have no more EVO's rallying in the wrc anymore,the EVOS were the best in the rally wrc and scca,they still drive EVO's in scca,but not the wrc.They are the best in scca too.

So i just got dont talking to my friend right? the one i told you guys that has the 05 STI,he claims he got past the govenors mark of 148mph,he told me he went past that to 150,then to 165,then to 170mph i was like lmfao no way in hell man.The sti doesnt go 150 and wont go 170,the speedo is 160,so no way in hell did he pass the govenors mark,he says all because he has a STI he thinks the STI is faster then the EVO....well its not the evo's top speed is 157+ the STI's is 148mph (governed).The EVO is much faster then the STI.The battle has just begun,just wait until the MR comes out ohh yeah!! serious STI ass kicking will start,the RS,theVIII,and the MR will and does waste the STI big time,they are faster then the STI.

What I think 61987 is trying to say, is that the govenor on the sti limits top speed by simply being in 6th gear and flooring the gas to 148. At 148, you will hit fuel cut, where you wont go any faster since the engine is no longer being fed more fuel.

Second of all, it is possible to get past the govenor on any car, as long as you have more gear room, more engine power, and if the body is not areodynamically forced to that govenor speed. All what it takes is when you get close to the govenor mark, you have to push in the clutch, rev up to around red line or about 500-1000 rpms higher then what you were doing before you pushed in the clutch, and dump or feather the clutch back out. Doing this will force the car to go above the govenors top rated speed.

If you think about it, it is the same thing with missing a shift or putting it in the wrong gear. If the redline of the car is at 7k and fuel cut actually happens at 7.2, if you miss a shift, like going from 4th to 5th, but actually going from 4th to 3rd on mistake, your rpms will shoot up to above fuel cut and above your redline, because there is no fuel that the engine can cut, since the engine is being forced to that rpm by the gears and not actually by the gas, so fuel cut cant help the car out there. Getting around the govenor works in the same exact way.

I do not have a evo or have ridden in one going at that fast of a speed, but I am guessing the evo will hit 155 as its top speed, and not go any faster due to it being redline limited, since it does not have a 6th gear.

I think all of your talk about one car being faster then the other based on top speed alone is plain stupid, as in a race wether on the streets, or on a race track of some sorts, will never get up to that high of a speed. So I think its plain stupid to be comparing which car is faster based on top speeds, because one car can have a higher top speed, but can take longer to get there, and cars also have differnt gearing, that makes a difference in getting up there as well, there are just too many factors about it. It is just stupid however, because races never go up that high. I think if you care about top speed and how well the car does after 120mph, I would suggest you get a v-8, as they are much stronger in my opinion after 120mph and also having a higher top speed.

By using this method in my 04 sti, I have been able to get the speedo to go past the 160 marking, and it would look like it was going anywhere from 5-15mph over it from my guess. But I think that as everybody knows, when your going that fast, esp. over 160, speedos are very inaccurate in every case, and the only true way to tell is by gps.

I cant say anything about the rs and about how fast it is, but I have raced a 03 evo stock, from a stop, we both had good launches, and it was dead even until about 70mph, then I started pulling car lengths on him till about 120 where we shut off at. When we shut off, I had about 4-5 car lengths on him. I have also raced a evo from a roll, that also looked stock, and it was not a contest, as the sti has more torque down low from a roll, while the evo has to wait to get its power and torque from the turbo, which spools up later.

Both cars are excellent, however I chose the sti, and I stand by it that the sti is a tad bit faster, but I think the evo handles better (according to the magazines) but the sti isnt terrible at handling at all even if the evo is better.

Sorry everyone about such a long post, and explaining everything in detail, but I just thought it would be fair to give 61987's friend a chance, versus having 61987 mad at him, because of these small facts that are not known that well. I have been surfing for awhile on these fourms, but I saw this post and I thought it would be a good idea to register and make a good first post here.
Cheers,
sti-power

Well you said you went 155,then to 165 and then 170 which isnt possible on the sti,you cant get past 140 much less to 150 if your lucky due to the speed limiter.And secondly your wrong about the EVO's top speed being 155,its 157 know your facts idiot.

EVO RALLIART POWER OWNS STI.
all HAIL EVO!!!

1.Faster and cheapier then the STI
2.Handles way better.
3.Better 0-60 times and 1/4mile.

he just explained how to, and you're only looking at top speed which is rarely ever reached or even close, you need to consider accelleration, which they're almost equal, the STi is slighty faster, one does not own the other, it's an even matchup

Guess your right matt,no one will ever hit top speed unless its at a track or ona closed street,listen man i love both cars the EVO and STI they are both awesome,they both ahd geat designs,great price,awesome power,everything about the 2 cars are awesome and both are very unique.

Probably get top speed on open highway late at night. I've gotten my uncles RSX-s up to 145 on a close highway

Probably get top speed on open highway late at night. I've gotten my uncles RSX-s up to 145 on a close highway
Damn you with your big highways, the best i've ever seen here was a Gembella GT2 racing an Alpina 8-series in the heavy rain, dunno how fast, but lets just say we were speeding, and they were going over half our speed again (around 140mph in surface water) :? The fastest I ever saw was on the Autobahn in Germany, this porsche something appeared and disappeared past in no time :shock:


Trouble is that if the car doesnt meet with a bad driver on the roads, it will be met with a flash from a gatso :( oh well, i guess the best thing to do is go to the tourist Nurburgring and get max speed along there :twisted: I think I read that almost every car can go max along there for quite a distance 8)

I chose evo but the new RS will be better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: :twisted:

I doubt that

I doubt that
Me too, but you know how some people want something so strong that they believe its the best. but only time will tell!

I doubt that
Me too

and me

I doubt that
Me too, but you know how some people want something so strong that they believe its the best. but only time will tell!
i agree with the last part (but only time will tell)
If the new RS is worst than evo i will be the first to say that.
i don't believe that ford will let me and the others RS fun down!!! 8)
p.s i don't say that right now the RS is better than the evo!!! (but you know how some people want something so strong that they believe its the best.)

Hey Dimitris does ford make the focus RS in europe? what happend to the cossworth focus?because the focus'es here in the U.S are made in mexico,ford needs to bring the RS to the U.S and the Falcon from austrailia to here.Is the new focus RS out yet? does it have the new duratec 2.3l?my mom also works for ford motor company,so she can give me a deal on any ford or ford owned cars.I dont want a ford though i mean i like ford,too but i would much rather have imports,they are so much better,faster,cheapier,better way better then american cars are.The new 2005 mustang looks cool also i wonder if there will be a svt version,ford needs to get back in the game man,they need to make the focus have like 270hp 280lbs tourque or something,ford needs more powerful cars then what ford has now.

I cant wait until late this year to early/late next year,the new 2005 EVO's come out and wil have 276HP,286LBSTourque,and the new MR wil be released in the U.S.Is the MR already released in europe? i know the FQ330 and FQ400 is but is the RS,MR aswell?

Considering that Mitsubishi is going bankrupt very soon, and if it wasn't for Mercedes generous donations that Mitsubishi would already be in the can, I think that the Evo will unfortunately not be a candidate for long. (Mercedes last donation was $8 Billion) Besides that fact, I would go for the STi.

So they are soon? how soon? is it really bad or will they recover? so if they do i wont buy an EVO then ill get a new redesigned 06 STI instead,SUBARU IPREZA WRX STI is awesome,so is the MITSUBISHI LANCER EVOLUTION.The problem with the current STI design is that its too roundish,not bold,not sleek,not mean looking,roundish ist a bad thing but i would like to see less roundish in the 06,i hope the 06 WRX STI will be Meaner,Bolder,Not too roundish (like i said roundish isnt that bad of a thing,i would like to see less round more,but i would like to see more,bold,sleek looking,mean looking,awesome styled STI thats ready to rally in the awesome 2.5L EJ25 (2.0L in Japan and Europe).Both are very awesome car,both are unique in many ways.SO if mitsu ends up going bankrupt,ill wait until the 2006 Redesign of the WRX STI to come out and get that as a graduation present.ifits governed or not its still fast as hell and so is the EVO both are very fast and awesome cars.Both are priced great,have great styling,everything about the 2 cars are awesome.

Hey Dimitris does ford make the focus RS in europe? what happend to The cossworth focus?because the focus'es here in the U.S are made in mexico,ford needs to bring the RS to the U.S and the Falcon from austrailia to here.Is the new focus RS out yet? does it have the new duratec 2.3l?my mom also works for ford motor company,so she can give me a deal on any ford or ford owned cars.I dont want a ford though i mean i like ford,too but i would much rather have imports,they are so much better,faster,cheapier,better way better then american cars are.The new 2005 mustang looks cool also i wonder if there will be a svt version,ford needs to get back in the game man,they need to make the focus have like 270hp 280lbs tourque or something,ford needs more powerful cars then what ford has now.

I cant wait until late this year to early/late next year,the new 2005 EVO's come out and wil have 276HP,286LBSTourque,and the new MR wil be released in the U.S.Is the MR already released in europe? i know the FQ330 and FQ400 is but is the RS,MR aswell?
the new Focus RS will probably have 4WD with about 240bhp, but there will be a Cosworth version with over 300bhp from a newly developed 2.3i 20V SCi Cosworth engine with a Garret Turbo and Complex 4WD system. An ST Focus will be launched soon with about 200bhp
In streets we will see ST about 6 months from launch date, RS from 2006-2007 and the Cosworth late 2007-Early 2008.(only in europe i believe)

Hey Subarukid what would you like to see over the current style of the STI the 04 and 05 in the 06? in your opinion which is totally welcomed.I hope for more,bold,aggressive,mean,sleek.less round style then the current STI but thats just me what is all of your guys opinions?have the same mabe? post them! hehe :D

I've had an Eclipse for the last 3 years & basically would never drive anything else. Then we needed a 2nd car & decided to choose between the STi or the Evo. We test drove both - loved the STi immediately & hated the Evo immediately. The STi was everything we expected. But as soon as we sat in the Evo we were disappointed. I couldn't believe that the same company that made the awesome Eclipse was the same company that made the Evo! Yes the Evo is cheaper than the STi (but only $2000 cheaper around here), but it also looked cheaper, felt cheaper & even seemed to drive more cheaply. Maybe it was just that one that we had test drove or something, but either way, that decided it. That was 3 months ago & I'm still lovin the STi - no regrets whatsoever.

Do you live in the U.S? if so are we allowed to test drive the STI?,my friend had a EVO he traded for STI,What one would you prefer for me? i love both cars.What one do you suggest i buy?

I think the 06 model impreza should do the same treatment the P1 did to the stock STi, slightly lower and more aggressive, with similar looks, but just looks more "the business" :P

ok, this is a crap photoshop i just did, but it would be ok (in my view) to look a bit like this :P ;
http://img48.exs.cx/img48/8708/sk3706impreza.jpg

lowered suspension, new front bumper and grille design, and bonnet vents
:wink:

Oh that looks awesome! the new WR1 looks sick too,is there a WRB and prodrive version?

Oh that looks awesome! the new WR1 looks sick too,is there a WRB and prodrive version?
The WR1 is a Prodrive made car, only for sale in the UK, and what is WRB?

The WRB is a type of WRX i think ive heard about it on www.nasioc.com.

The WRB is a type of WRX i think ive heard about it on www.nasioc.com.
OK, well its not one i've ever heard of :? so I think it must be a custom special or something... :?
So i doubt there will be one made out of production...
And the next prodrive car will be soon I think

Do you live in the U.S? if so are we allowed to test drive the STI?,my friend had a EVO he traded for STI,What one would you prefer for me? i love both cars.What one do you suggest i buy?

Yes I live in the US (Florida). We were allowed to test drive the STi, but only after we made it clear to the salesman that we we driving something home that day, whether it was the STi or the Evo. Your friend was wise to trade in the Evo for the STi, IMHO. As far as your preferences....that really just depends on what you like. Some ppl like the way the Evo looks, some like the way the STi looks. I personally don't like the "rounder" look of the Evo, & that antenna sticking out really annoys me. Then there are advantages & disadvantages to them both as far as the mechanics. In addition, Consumer Guide rates the STi at a score of 42 (below average), & the Evo at 47 (just above average). Not to mention that the Evo is in fact a little less expensive.

But like I said, personally, we're very happy w/ the decision we made. After test-driving both, it just felt like there was really NO comparison between the 2 cars - like they were in totally different classes! Ultimately, my suggestion is to do the same as we did: make a final decision as to whether you're going to drive an Evo or an STi off the lot one day, & tell the salesmen as much - then they should allow you to test drive them, & then you'll be able to decide for yourself.

BTW, how do I fix that typo in my user name?

I don't think you can fix it, you might just have to make a new one

BTW, how do I fix that typo in my user name?
Send a PM to Rollin, I got mine changed from SUbaruKid37 to SubaruKid37 !

Ill take that cosworth engine out of that Focus and put it to good use. :twisted:

i like both but...the Evo is quite better in looks and performance..the STi is not faster who ever said that, Evo has always been on top

Dude, check the posts previous date.