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Schumi
Aug 03, 2003, 1:07 PM
Well look at this:

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA:

Hatchback
1360 kilos
Engine:In front,6 cylinder in V,4 valves per cylinder,3179 cc,Horsepower:250/6200,Torque:30,6/4800.
Wheels:Front and rear:225/45
0-100Km/h(0-60mph):6,3'', 246Km/h.

Volkswagen Golf R32:

Hatchback
1477 kilos
Engine:In front,6 cylinder in V,4 valves per cylinder,3189 cc,Horsepower:241/6250, Torque:32,6/2800.
Wheels:Front and rear:225/40
0-100Km/h(0-60mph):6,6'', 247Km/h.


Make your opinions.That was a good compare and we can't compare them too far except if we have them in the road.

Raith83
Aug 03, 2003, 2:41 PM
I am unfamilair with Alfa Romeo's. As far as I do know, they are excellent cars. I knwo ALOT more about VW's and have an affinity towards them. Both cars seem to be very closely matched, so what it's going to come down to is price, value, quality, fuel economy, availability, ect. Also, given similar powerplants, there needs to be a comparison of the 0-60 mph times. This will give a good idea of how good the respective transmissions are. Speaking of transmissions, the only ofther thing I'm worried about is the gear box themselves. How well they are put together and such. Any links for the Alfa car would be appreciated.

Schumi
Aug 03, 2003, 2:53 PM
I don't know if you can understand that but this is for the transmission.The gears:

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA: 1st:3,5:1,2nd:2,235:1,3rd:1,52:1,4th:1,1 56:1,5th:0,971:1,6th:0,818:1.

Volkswagen Golf R32:
1st:3,46:1,2nd:1,94:1,3rd:1,37:1,4th:1,0 3:1,5th:0,85:1...no 6th...

I don't if you can understand anything of that but I don't...That's something for the gears.I think how long they are...

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 03, 2003, 3:17 PM
Ofcourse i defenitly choose for the Alfa Romeo!!

I like the beautiful design of the Alfa!! Looks great
I think the R32 does not look much more than quite normal.. except a few things.

The Alfa is faster!! and Topgear said that quality of a 156 GTA was even so good than a BMW 330CI!
So i think the Quality of the VW won't be much better than the Alfa Romeo..

Than the intrieur, WoW what a diffrence i Really DON"T like thatboring VW intriour ,
Well Alfa's Intriour is really BEAUTIFUL designed!! looks Great and nice sporty!

The Alfa has only 1 - point and that's he have's FWD :( ,

Greetz : Danny!

Raith83
Aug 03, 2003, 3:24 PM
Hmm, okay, thats good. I was wondering which engine/drive setup the Alfa had. I Though the VW had a 6th gear?! Ah well, I could be just stupid today. Anyway, I think the R32 would lend itself better for tuning (at least in the US, I know there's a ZILLION VW parts available) and :P the Alfa is definitly not coming to the States. What sort of tuning pats are avaible elsehwere for it? I wouldn't know . It also has the AWD which would give it better handling ect and you could safely give more power without insane burnouts like only two wheel drive would give. AWD means better high speed stablility too, which is always a plus. That aside though, I still don't know what the other car looks like, exterior or interior, so I really can't make a judgement on that.

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 03, 2003, 4:13 PM
This are the both intriours of those cars; Now you guys can imagine my opinion maybe better not that i must read next post again : Danny has no taste , or Danny does only love Italian cars , quite logical they are the most beautiful !!! :evil:

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA :
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/alfa_romeo/1471gin1_a.jpg

Volkswagen Golf R32
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/volkswagen/golf3ri1_a.jpg

http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/volkswagen/golf3ri2_a.jpg

I think this intriour ofthat VW is to boring to simple , So really VW agian!

Alfa Romeo 147 GTA:
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/alfa_romeo/1471g2_a.jpg

http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/alfa_romeo/1471g6_a.jpg

And this is even a WHITE 147GTa in red he's even more beautiful!!
so red GTA :D

http://www.rdante.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Alfa147/Gta/Gta002.jpg

http://www.rdante.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Alfa147/Gta/Gta046.jpg

http://www.rdante.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Alfa147/Gta/Gta114.jpg

Volkswagen Golf :
http://www.autoweek.nl/cbimages/volkswagen/golf3r2_a.jpg

http://autotelegraaf.nl/images/speurder/9/1/7/10011917.2.gen.jpg

Well hope you all like the pictures! ,

Greetz : Danny the Alfa Romeo Freak![/img]

mallon
Aug 03, 2003, 4:55 PM
well the design of the GTA's interior is alot better, its more orginal, but the VW's is nailed together better.
So its what you prefer, looks or durability.

NiGiz
Aug 03, 2003, 6:55 PM
As I have already said, I would choose the GTA...If only the VDC could be deactivated :twisted:

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 7:38 PM
GTA for me ......
the design is great///
i alsaw know that driving the alfa gives you the pleasure....

there was one advertisment for alfa that said....

"AUDI talks to your Mind ....Alfa talks to your Sense"

the feeling in the alfa is much better i assume .... :p

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 03, 2003, 8:25 PM
'Mallon , why do you think the durability of the VW is better??

I know that's their name VW = Durability! But that = not always true!

I can show you a movie and that's a topgear magazine i thought... were someone drive's in a GTA!!

They said : Alfa turned the quality up!!
And she said : If someone asked me before today( before she drove the GTA ) : who builds the best alrounds sports saloon? i proberly said BMW , but now Is the 156 GTA here with the german quality (durability) and more action and he's looking BEAUTiFUL from every side!!! hehe in 1 word! : BEATEN!!

oh God i'm in love :mrgreen:

Oh and she said to : WELL DONE CHAMPS!! :D
She love the sound of the GTA :D

and quit danny quit they must know it now :)

Mallon if you wanna see that movie than speak i've got the URL!

Greetz : Danny!

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 8:55 PM
the problem with that car that its a FWD //
if it was a RWD... she would probably be one of the best ... :twisted:

Raith83
Aug 04, 2003, 1:55 AM
Man, if the Alfa was AWD I'd shoot myself in the head. If I was given the choice, it would be for the GTA and try to make the factory put an AWD system in there :lol: Sadly, I'm "stuck" with only having the R32 available to me, and I don't think I really want any other car besides that and an S2000. :twisted:

jimkk29
Aug 04, 2003, 6:04 AM
I prefer the Golf, because it certainly has better handling with the AWD and because it's German.

(PS: this is my 500th post!!!!!!)

FR500
Aug 04, 2003, 10:01 AM
Man, if the Alfa was AWD I'd shoot myself in the head. If I was given the choice, it would be for the GTA and try to make the factory put an AWD system in there :lol: Sadly, I'm "stuck" with only having the R32 available to me, and I don't think I really want any other car besides that and an S2000. :twisted:

US is not getting R32, at least that was the official statement, anyway i'd go for the Golf............but just you wait for the Cosworth 2005

Ferrari360Chic
Aug 04, 2003, 10:37 AM
alfa !

Schumi
Aug 04, 2003, 11:31 AM
Did you see Michael Schumacher in the previous race.He drove the Alfa Romeo 156 GTA which is racing with the BMW's...Do you know who's leading in this championship.In the end, Alfa gets more votes...Hahahaha.My thought is that Alfa is much beatiful.R32 is better in handling(Don't know that anyway).Both cars designed for handling.I don't think that Alfa has less handling than R32 has...

mallon
Aug 04, 2003, 4:50 PM
'Mallon , why do you think the durability of the VW is better??

I know that's their name VW = Durability! But that = not always true!
!

..in this case its true
can you think of a case where it isnt BTW?

jimkk29
Aug 05, 2003, 10:40 AM
VW = VolksWagen (German)
VolksWagen = 'Car for the people'
The company was named that way because it started producing affordable cars (ie like the old Beetle) in an era when cars were very expensive.

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 05, 2003, 7:29 PM
@ Mallon ;

NEW AR 156 2.0 JTS VS. VW Passat 2.0 ?????????

AR 156 GTA VS. BMW 330 CI??

I know you guys are right about one thing , there are MORE italians cars with low durability than german cars!

But Italia build enough cars with durabilty who you can compare with VW or BMW!!
I think tyou CAN't Say ITALIAN cars , i think much Italian cars 'don't have the durability as an VW , but i think especially Alfa Romeo ( new models) having a great durability!

greetz : Danny!

Schumi
Aug 06, 2003, 2:51 PM
VW 2.0Lt. engine sucks.............Only 115 hp from a 2lt engine?This is the engine that the New Beetle cabrio wears.This is the only engine that moves Beetle cabrio.

Ferrari360Chic
Aug 06, 2003, 3:08 PM
the interior of the Alfa is SO perty ! the VW is TOO original and BORIN ! EWW !

Schumi
Aug 06, 2003, 3:10 PM
I like you girl! :lol:

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 08, 2003, 10:58 PM
love ya girl :oops:
Really love ya taste!! :lol:

hehe , greetz : Danny

Raith83
Aug 09, 2003, 5:45 PM
I think it's funny when a "boring" looking car blows away "better looking" cars, like mustangs and the like. What else looks like a Golf body? Two carboradboxes with wheels? None the less, I still like the Golf, GTi, and R32 ALOT! and if I WAS given the choice, The Alfa would be a no brainer. Still, I only have the R32 avaiable in the near future and I will definitly like one over many others in it's price range.

Schumi
Aug 10, 2003, 10:20 AM
You are writing that because Alfa's isn't so available there.If you drive an Alfa,if you see the engines and the other designs of the other cars you will love them. :wink:

White-Night
Aug 10, 2003, 10:23 AM
ya i think Schumi is write...
the alfa gives you the max pleasure of driving ..
while the golf dont .....///
you feel good when you drive an alfa .. when you do you will understand what we mean :twisted:

Schumi
Aug 10, 2003, 10:26 AM
VW's aren't so good at driving pleasure.I drove a lot of VW's but they were old.

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 10, 2003, 10:51 PM
YEAH SCHUMI!!! GO ON BRO!!

I think Much people from America choose to fast for a Vw or something , only because there are no Alfa's in america :|

Schumi is right!

I swear!
1 touch and : You fall in love!
1 throttle hit and : you fall in love with that sound!
1 look at the interior and : you hearth is completely become crazy! and falls in love !!
1 time put the pedal to the metal and then you'll see that Alfa's FWD car is faster than VW 's 4WD CAr and than the Italian love leaks into your body! without notice!

Greetz : Danny!

White-Night
Aug 11, 2003, 6:10 AM
:arrow: Alfa Romeo 156 GTA .....
MAN YOUR IN LOOOOOOOOOOOVE :wink: :lol: :lol: :wink:

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 11, 2003, 8:35 AM
hehe yeah white-night
i guess i am :oops:

Greetz : Danny!

Schumi
Aug 11, 2003, 2:40 PM
Like me in:Fiat Group,Jennifer,Ericcsson.Hehe.Danny is so right!

jimkk29
Aug 11, 2003, 5:44 PM
Ericsson?? :?
LOL...

Schumi
Aug 14, 2003, 3:20 PM
Yes,I really don't like NOKIA's.They are looking like **** and NOKIA thinks that mobiling is like gaming.Did you see 3300???It is like gameboy!!! :lol:

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 14, 2003, 4:00 PM
Did you see 3300???It is like gameboy!!! :lol: yeah it's so nice :D

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 14, 2003, 9:15 PM
hehe , From cars to mobile's

Nice story! : I was happy i thought i had bought a Italian Cell phono a ( sounds italian) Motorola! well i heard on the same day on Television that it was american :(

I thought : ****!!!

Greetz : Danny!

gr8dane
Aug 14, 2003, 9:52 PM
hehe , From cars to mobile's

Nice story! : I was happy i thought i had bought a Italian Cell phono a ( sounds italian) Motorola! well i heard on the same day on Television that it was american :(

I thought : [censored]!!!!

LMAO :lol: Well, ur obviously biased as to which item u choose by it's country of origin. :?

:evil: And i sure as hell can rightly say that just because something is american doesn't mean it instantly sux!!! :evil: (although i admit that most american cars pale in comparison to european and asian makes)

FR500
Aug 15, 2003, 2:21 AM
This one to Alfa and Schumi, the 147 is great, badass looking and overall a very competent performer

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 15, 2003, 6:46 AM
i'd go with an r32 golf i've seen a clip have the golf 32 yesturday and it'd very nice and very performant that's my chose :D

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 15, 2003, 8:36 AM
hehe THANKS FR500!!
You choose the best one!! :D

@ Gr8dane! : Well i didn't say that cell phone sux! , everyting what i said was not mre than a joke!
Well i stillhave a motorola and Like EVERY motorola more than every Nokia!
And i know it's American!

Don't wurry i love America too Very much!!

Greetz : Danny!

gr8dane
Aug 15, 2003, 8:25 PM
:arrow: Alfa: It's all 8) thanx man. I'm just a little too used to hearing american stuff sux, that's all thanx. And yea btw, i do like motorola way better than nokia, but sayno makes good ones too.... :wink: