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FR500
Aug 02, 2003, 10:48 PM
Everyone knows the king of cars is the Maclaren F1, even though is not the fastest anymore it's still one of the best, anyway, when i was researching for the Koeniseg CC i found out the MClaren F1 only pulls 0.86G on the skidpad, thats about the same as the BMW X5 4.6is and less than the Mercury Marauder, but still, afaik the McLaren F1 was considered the fastest car in the world, but the SVT focus, as an example beats the slalom 5km/h faster than this $1.000.000 car, so, was it meant to be an straight line performer? i guessed it was a track car, maybe the info is wrong

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 02, 2003, 11:17 PM
i know that the bugatti veryon is faster than the McLaren f1 lm but is there a faster car than the bugatti veryon

psh
Aug 03, 2003, 12:10 AM
By "fastest production car" they were most likely refering to either the acceleration (0-60 or 1/4 mile) or the top speed.

Evo_power
Aug 03, 2003, 1:52 AM
In a straight line, the fastest car is the Lingenfelter Corvette. Dont argue with me it just is! Next, I think the McLaren F1 is the best at EVERYTHING else, I highly doubt the SVT Focus beat it at anything, but who knows. I dont know how the Veyron does with corners and stuff, but 1001 horsepower is just cool to say :twisted:

FR500
Aug 03, 2003, 3:01 AM
In a straight line, the fastest car is the Lingenfelter Corvette. Dont argue with me it just is! Next, I think the McLaren F1 is the best at EVERYTHING else, I highly doubt the SVT Focus beat it at anything, but who knows. I dont know how the Veyron does with corners and stuff, but 1001 horsepower is just cool to say :twisted:

The Lingenfelter is quickest, yes, right, but not on the street, you can just go out and make a 1.9 0-60 and 9.2 quarter with the lingenflter, you really need skill and tires, also a decent pavement, most likely you wont find that conditions, anyway, back on to the topic, the McLaren F1 pulls only 0.86g in the corners and makes 103 km/h in an slalom (according to sites), that is pretty mediocre, some SUVs can beat that, but i saw track tests of the F1, and it has great roadholding abilities, i guess the sites are wrong, i dont think it's tire technology since the F50 in the same time made 1.03g and 115km/h slaloms

Raith83
Aug 03, 2003, 5:03 AM
When they talk about production cars, does that mean factory o factory tuned? Lingenfelter is merely an in house tuner, so is that techincally counted by the experts?

I wonder how fast the new Ford GT is going to be able to go...

Oh, I was also wondering if theres a landspeed record for a car WITHOUT freaking jets on it. I'd think there would be a record for that in some book or on some website...

dark_hunter
Aug 03, 2003, 7:21 AM
You guys want to see a fast car!!---> http://www.supercars.net/cars/1938@$Mercedes-Benz@$W125%20Recordg.html

mallon
Aug 03, 2003, 7:58 AM
I wonder how fast the new Ford GT is going to be able to go...

well it definetly wont go faster than the Koenigsegg @252 mph.

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 7:08 PM
he fastest car ever built is the Trust SSC ////
it got to 1223.908 km/h
it was built in 1997 /

an article about the fastest cars i have but in hebrew...
so if you wanna see its pics//
enter the page...
the last three pictures in the article is the car ....

http://classiccar.msn.co.il/articles/article.asp?A_ID=63

Raith83
Aug 03, 2003, 9:52 PM
Yeah, the ones with the Rocye jet engines, right?
Whats the fatsest fossil fueled car? I 'd really like to know. Back in the day, there was a hella sick car with a V6 linked to each weel, it had the record for a while I think. Thats 4 V6's! Since then I'm sure theres been a faster car.

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 9:54 PM
i will check it out and give you an answer....
ya its the black car with the jets :)

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 9:57 PM
i just checked...
you were wrong ... the car you are talking about had 4 V8 engines not V6//
each had 700 Hp ...
the car was made in 1927 and it reached the speed of 634.196 km/h :)

the link above show you the car.. you can find it from the numbers i gave you they will be under the pic :)

Raith83
Aug 03, 2003, 10:01 PM
Wow! You know White Night, I knew that too! But I thought, "hmmmm, 4 v-8's?! thats craaaazy!!", so I guess the facts are stranger than my fiction, hehe. Thanks fro the correction! Me and my limited imagination...

White-Night
Aug 03, 2003, 10:08 PM
imagination..!
i didn't imagine that neither ..
how can it stay on the ground with the speed of 1300+ ..which means ubove the sound bariour.... you can see it in the last pic.... tooo ...
but it sure is crazy stuff :)

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 05, 2003, 10:20 PM
hmm from 0-100 km/h this are the 5 fasted cars on the world!

RANK
CAR - MODEL
Time (sec.)

1 LINGENFELTER CORVETTE 427 BITURBO 1.970
2 HENNESSEY DODGE VIPER VENOM 800 2,400
3 DAUER RACING 962 LE MANS 2,793
4 ULTIMA GTR Le Mans 2,800
5 RENAULT ESPACE F1 2,896


I swear 1.970 That's horrible fast!!

greetz : Danny!

FR500
Aug 06, 2003, 12:58 AM
hmm from 0-100 km/h this are the 5 fasted cars on the world!

RANK
CAR - MODEL
Time (sec.)

1 LINGENFELTER CORVETTE 427 BITURBO 1.970
2 HENNESSEY DODGE VIPER VENOM 800 2,400
3 DAUER RACING 962 LE MANS 2,793
4 ULTIMA GTR Le Mans 2,800
5 RENAULT ESPACE F1 2,896


I swear 1.970 That's horrible fast!!

greetz : Danny!

Those are the Quickest not the Fastest, and there is something wrong there the mustang boss 93 makes 1.9 too, the RS2000 makes 2.5 and the ZL1 too

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 06, 2003, 9:18 AM
yeah you could be right :

i saw this at this : http://www.0-100.it/supercars/classifica/top69_engl.html site..


Greetz : danny!

Raith83
Aug 06, 2003, 11:37 AM
Okay, I'm kinda confused. I have NO idea what an RS2000 is. link me up scotty!

Ferrari360Chic
Aug 06, 2003, 11:52 AM
same here !

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Aug 06, 2003, 12:47 PM
same here :)

FR500
Aug 07, 2003, 1:03 AM
http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/fordrs200evo.html

It's RS200 evo, sorry for the confussion, also your list has some great differencess with others i have seen, and some ferraris are too slow there, also i didnt see the Boss 10.0L Mustang that one pulls 100 in 1.90 but quarter is slower than the Lingenfelter Vette, also it lacks the ZL1 Camaro as i stated before.

Anyway, the car i would love to have is this one, if it was released europe would have some serious competition there: http://www.supercars.net/cars/1999@$Ford@$Mustang%20FR500%20Conceptg.h tml

The engine was mint, it was bored up to 5 litres using spray bore technology and if you research you'll see it's a really awesome car


Camaro
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Chevrolet@$Camaro%20ZL1%20Conceptg .html

Mustang Boss
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Ford@$Mustang%20Boss%20Conceptg.ht ml

dougfrippon
Aug 07, 2003, 2:27 AM
the Vector Avtech WX-3 is said to go at over 250mph

and thats not a rocket.. thats a "Car"
http://www.chem.ucla.edu/~na/vector.html

And check the "exotics" section
the Dauer962 LM Sport can go a Littlle little bit faster

DarkVenom666
Aug 07, 2003, 2:45 PM
These cars are one of the fastest, indeed. But not the fastest of all. The fastest ( as far as i know. ) is the Oldsmobile Aerotech ( the longtail version. the 'normal' version reaches 251 mp/h. ). It's max speed is 278 mp/h. But it is a prototype vehicle though... I don't know if those count as well.

dougfrippon
Aug 08, 2003, 12:34 AM
Well I just found a faster one.. :
The WALLEY LARSON LE1 GROUNDFIGHTER

Seems to have like.. 2000hp and it can go at over 490km/h,... witch is 305mph
http://www.autosrapidos.com/superautos/w/walleylarson-le1groundfighter.htm

White-Night
Aug 08, 2003, 4:55 PM
non got to 1300+ ....
so non of them is the fastest @!

dougfrippon
Aug 08, 2003, 5:54 PM
White-Night
You're vehicule is the "world's fastest ground vehicule"

It is not a "CAR" like it is stated in the topic
It's a some sort of ground rocket, and it can only be driven in some desert in arizona I think, not in the streets.

Raith83
Aug 08, 2003, 6:23 PM
I can only say one thing about the WALLEY LARSON LE1 GROUNDFIGHTER

"holy-mother-of-pearl-sick-sick-sick!"

In the good way though :wink:

White-Night
Aug 08, 2003, 7:45 PM
it might be,,,
but every machiene that have 4 wheels on the ground ... great engine and a steering ...
is a Car for me ......... :)

DarkVenom666
Aug 08, 2003, 9:16 PM
What about the 3 wheeled cars ? :?:

White-Night
Aug 08, 2003, 9:30 PM
not cars from my point of view...
and mainly i never saw one in my country !@ :wink:

DarkVenom666
Aug 10, 2003, 8:25 AM
Haha, well, if i have to be honest, i never seen a good looking 3 wheeled 'car' before... I think i'll share your opinion :) . And you've never seen one, not ever? I've seen many, but all of them were hidious :? .

White-Night
Aug 10, 2003, 8:34 AM
i saw in greece when i was a little kid !!!!
one wheel in the front .. 2 in the back ///
i prefer a bike man !!

jimkk29
Aug 10, 2003, 9:19 AM
LOL... Some farmers have those. They can get max 70 km/h or something like that... :) :lol:

White-Night
Aug 10, 2003, 9:23 AM
ya and they really look ugly....!!!

jimkk29
Aug 10, 2003, 9:25 AM
And they have the worst traction ever. If you take a corner with more than 30 km/h, they turn upside down!

DarkVenom666
Aug 10, 2003, 12:47 PM
LOL! I've seen quite a few when i was young ( atleast younger than i am now... ), but i've never seen one in action. I'd like to see it once though, i hope it rolls over, that would be cool :twisted: .

I can imagine why they can't go faster, they would definately get too dangerous!

Saman
Aug 10, 2003, 8:44 PM
The Koenigsegg CC can hit almost 400 KPH / 245 MPH. THAT IS FAST!!

dougfrippon
Aug 10, 2003, 11:08 PM
Saman read the thread a bit.. I found a 300 mph car.. =D

SKYLINE_GT-R
Aug 11, 2003, 4:13 PM
The Caterham 7 superlight r500 xpower is a fast car and cheap too

SKYLINE_GT-R
Aug 11, 2003, 4:18 PM
The Caterham does 0-100km's in about 3.3 seconds thats fast. Its a 4 cylinder for $30,000!

DarkVenom666
Aug 11, 2003, 5:09 PM
Heard about the Caterham 7 Superlight R500? It has beaten the legendary F1 ( yes, the McLaren. ), in a test, in wich the car has to pull up till it reaches 60MP/H and then stop. All as fast as possible ( jeah, didn't knew that did ya :lol: ). The McLaren used to be the number 1 at this, followed by the F40, wich is followed by the 959. I can't remember the times exactly, though.

dougfrippon
Aug 13, 2003, 12:17 AM
I found another picture of the WALLEY LARSON LE1 GROUNDFIGHTER witch can top 305mph (490 km/h) ... looks craza

http://www.saudrawig.com/php/phpBB/files/mclaren20f2.jpg

DarkVenom666
Aug 13, 2003, 8:05 AM
Nice 8) .

jimkk29
Aug 13, 2003, 10:08 AM
Looks like a plane... what engine does it have?

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 13, 2003, 10:10 AM
Looks like a plane... what engine does it have?

LOL :lol: :lol:

it's not really nice but the engine must kickass :D

dougfrippon
Aug 13, 2003, 10:56 AM
well I know it has 2000 hp.. :)

Dutchmarshall
Aug 13, 2003, 12:37 PM
i read somewhere that it had a Twin Paxton Supercharger
But im not sure this is relyable, cause its from another forum

McLaren F1 LM
Aug 13, 2003, 2:00 PM
2000 hp dear god what's the top speed
:D

mallon
Aug 15, 2003, 7:45 PM
Heard about the Caterham 7 Superlight R500? It has beaten the legendary F1 ( yes, the McLaren. ), in a test, in wich the car has to pull up till it reaches 60MP/H and then stop.

yeah the R500 is the fastest in the world at doing that - but r u sure the mclaren was previously the best (considering there where other caterhams/LS7's before the McLaren's) because the 'secret' to doing that is in being very very light.

DarkVenom666
Aug 15, 2003, 9:12 PM
Well, the Caterham was a bit faster. I think about a few tenths of a sec max. It's probably less. So i think this is the first Caterham that has beaten the F1. The others may have come close, but they didn't surpass the F1.

Thlam
Sep 02, 2003, 6:32 PM
i think the mclaren was fastest production car...

DarkVenom666
Sep 03, 2003, 11:12 AM
Those days are gone.... :wink:

?CAT?
Sep 09, 2003, 7:46 PM
I don't know if someone already mentioned this one....

Thrust SSC, which stablished a world record on 1997. It's weight is 20,000 pounds pushed by 2 power stations from the Rolls Royce' Phantom Fighter. This power "stations" (I couldn't find the right word, sorry my english) push the "car" from 0 to 100 miles in a second, to 600 miles in 16 seconds and it can reach the 850 miles in less than a min.

http://www.thrustssc.com/Photographs/19971006/19971006008-review.JPG

:?

White-Night
Sep 09, 2003, 7:58 PM
i already did :)

but i didn't have this pic ....
nice one

?CAT?
Sep 09, 2003, 8:02 PM
i already did :)

but i didn't have this pic ....
nice one

heya! :oops:

looks horrible to me. :x

White-Night
Sep 09, 2003, 8:20 PM
i already did :)

but i didn't have this pic ....
nice one

heya! :oops:

looks horrible to me. :x

hay ...do you always reply this quick !!!

anyways.,,,,,, the guys here said // its a machiene not a car,,,,
but in my opinion ... if it have wheels and engines/// its a car///
and this is not a turbo bosted car // this is a JET car :twisted: :wink:

?CAT?
Sep 10, 2003, 3:28 PM
[/quote]

hay ...do you always reply this quick !!!

anyways.,,,,,, the guys here said // its a machiene not a car,,,,
but in my opinion ... if it have wheels and engines/// its a car///
and this is not a turbo bosted car // this is a JET car :twisted: :wink:[/quote]

8) I always try to reply as soon as possible.

Of course it is a car! There is a big difference between a turbine Jet and a reaction motor.

Well, it is indeed a SUPER CAR. No wonder why they ask to a Royal Air Force Pilot to drive it .......... :shock:

Schumi
Sep 10, 2003, 3:47 PM
Hehehehe..Jet cars and stuff like that huh??
Look at this:
http://www.warbirdsshow.com/pictures/tank-car.jpg
0-400Km/h in 8.6 secs

Thlam
Sep 10, 2003, 5:16 PM
thats not a real tank....

mallon
Sep 10, 2003, 5:41 PM
i already did :)

but i didn't have this pic ....
nice one

heya! :oops:

looks horrible to me. :x

looks cool to me - a bit like a fighter jet for the ground.. sort of.

?CAT?
Sep 10, 2003, 6:27 PM
i already did :)

but i didn't have this pic ....
nice one

heya! :oops:

looks horrible to me. :x

looks cool to me - a bit like a fighter jet for the ground.. sort of.

Looks like something BATMAN would drive...... :lol:

jimkk29
Sep 10, 2003, 6:40 PM
Looks cool to me too.

Geo_x
Oct 18, 2003, 7:19 PM
I believe the fastest "production" car is the Chevrolet Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette, it was built in 1988 and the maximum speed is 409.9km/h, 3.9km/h faster than the Bugatti Veyron. But it's kind of ugly. . .

Schumi
Oct 19, 2003, 7:32 AM
It doesnt matter...You dont want this car to go out for a date with your girlfriend.You want it for its top speed... :twisted: :twisted:

Thlam
Oct 19, 2003, 11:43 AM
actually the worlds fastest production car is the Koenigsegg CC 8S it tops at 242mph, the Callaway Corvette may be faster but it was never a production car. only 1 callaway corvette was ever produced.

Schumi
Oct 19, 2003, 1:45 PM
Well,do you have any pics from this callaway...?

Thlam
Oct 19, 2003, 1:57 PM
http://www.kantor.net/Sledgehammer%202.JPG

there

Schumi
Oct 19, 2003, 2:15 PM
Oh yes.I know this car.I forgot it... :P
Thanks Thlam. :wink:

jimkk29
Oct 19, 2003, 5:39 PM
I believe the fastest "production" car is the Chevrolet Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette, it was built in 1988 and the maximum speed is 409.9km/h, 3.9km/h faster than the Bugatti Veyron. But it's kind of ugly. . .
I' ve never known this car... Are you sure it actually went into production?
Btw welcome to the forum, Geo_x. Another Greek guy here. Kalosirthes!

:arrow: Thlam: The veyrons top speed is 406 km/h (254 mph).

Schumi
Oct 20, 2003, 3:43 PM
Jim if you search a little while in the net you can find many pictures of this cars and specs too.I knew this car but I couldnt remember as a picture or sth... :P

Capitan Lento
Nov 05, 2003, 9:20 AM
The faster car is the Maclaren F1, but the Bugatti seems to be faster.
the faster guayin is a MG with v8

Alfa Romeo 156 GTA
Nov 05, 2003, 10:20 AM
Nooo not the bugatti :twisted:

That car can drive 320 but if he drive's faster it become's a plane :D lol he goes flying then :D?

Ciao danny!

They still have to learn in germany what PErfect downforce means :D

Ciao!

99 si trbo
Nov 13, 2003, 5:42 PM
The fastest production ever built (top speed) was the McLaren F1 and still is at this point in time. The Lingenfelter corvette was not and never will be a production car so that is out of the picture. As far as 0-60 times the Enzo, Saleen S7, and the mclaren all run approximately 3.3 secs to 60 mph.

Geo_x
Nov 13, 2003, 5:52 PM
Chevrolet Callaway Sledgehammer Corvette it was a production car, and the price of it, it was about 400.000$. Anyway, the max. speed of the McLaren F1 is 386.2kph, and the Koenigsegg CC has 390kph (but i'm not sure if it is in production), and there is also the Bugatti Veyron with max. speed of 406kph. So. . .

Schumi
Nov 14, 2003, 8:48 PM
I really dont know other production cars quicker than those... :?

Aerial Guardian
Dec 18, 2004, 12:21 AM
Look, the fastest "PRODUCTION" car in the world is the MAC1, and will be for a long time.

1996 Test Track 399KP/H
1997 Test Track 407KP/H
1999 Test Track 414KP?H
2001 Test Track 419KP/H
2003 Test Track 421KP/H
2004 Test Track UNKNOWN......

The registered time is 399KP/H and is in the record books, stated as the fastest "PRODUCTION" car in history. Meaning, you can go buy this car, and drive it legally on the road without getting a ticket from the cops :D....

And DON'T forget, this is straight out of the box, this is the car you can buy, it has not been tweaked for maximum with any tuning.

Just imagine what this car can do if they boost it with meth and tweak it for offroad tracks? yeah yeah, you guessed it, it will blow any other car stated here away.

If you want to go further than that, check the MAC2 497KP/H..."NON PRODUCTION" off road, illegal on road 2321BHP...Vroom Vroom ;)

Videos coming soon..

Maserati Man
Dec 18, 2004, 12:47 AM
noby has posted on this topic in lets see..... uhh... 13 months!! and the F1 isnt the fastest, its increibly crazy fast, but not the fastest. there were some concepts that are faster than a Bugati like the Oldsmobile Aerotech which has a top speed of 278mph, but i think that Bugati has the fastest production cars. or maybe they are the fastest that are still street legal. still, 250mph is fu*kin fast.

and to be honest ive never heard of a MAC1. ive heard of a Mac10 like the gun, but not this.

Aerial Guardian
Dec 21, 2004, 8:16 PM
Well nah...I seen the records, and the MAC1(Maclaren F1) is still the fastest as the Buggati and Koenigsegg was stated to be able to top out faster than the MAC1, both failed to do so on testing. And the record books of 99 still states the MAC1 as the holder. The Buggati was 6 K's slower, and the Koenigsegg was 4 K's slower and handled like crap, as the tester told us it did. When you see a car, and they say it's meant to go this fast, don't say it went that fast if it hasen't gone that fast, it's only a gauge once you see the needle go there, then you can say it went that fast, otherwise it's not the fastest "production car".

And the funny thing is, you guys are saying these cars are the fastest, yet, those speeds you say have never been attained, it's only what the companies say its capable of doing, yet, it's not even close.

The MAC1 has attained 421KM/H off records, 399KM/H on records. And soon in 2005, you will see it go into the records as they are going to make it faster. But I'm not saying the MAC1's fastest speed is 412, because it has not yet been seen or tested for guinness world records.

As for the Thrust, that speed was actually attained 20 years before it was recorded. And the guys that did it, done it in a similar car and were Americans. Though it wasen't recorded, but it was still done years before the thrust did it. And the thrust took 12 minutes to start up - 3 minutes to get upto 0-100KM/H, not seconds. This is wrong and you just made it up..Then it took 5 minutes an extra 2minutes to get from 100-900KM/H, then it took 6 minutes(extra minute) to get to 1227.98KM/H-763.03MP/H (Mach1.02).

Then they had to do another run back to make the record books, and had only half an hour to get everything ready again, but couldn't touch the fuel or anything else.
Both runs had to be completed in one hour otherwise it's not official.

And yeah, who said we can't talk in older threads? I don't care if it's ten years old, it's still here, and if the information is wrong :), and if someone thinks I'm wrong, then they can sort it out (with proof that is). Then when that's done, someone looking for the correct information will be able to get it searching in search engines, as this is knowledge not yet been finalized.

Don't you hate it when you do a search for information for an exam, then you find a forum, only to find that the forum is not yet completed or has wrong information, then you do your test at school, then you fail because people don't answer the threads thinking. "oh, this is too old, can't talk in that thread anymore" yeah right..hehehe...get the info out, and make it correct, otherwise, give us some videos and some proof, not pictures of cars, proof of times, test tracks, and information, then show us the books of where the records are held..Then you can say what's the fastest car.. Otherwise, every company that has a super car thinks their cars are the best and yet, they never have broken any records..Making everyone think, "Oww yeah, this car is the fastest in the world" only because they say it is...

They were all burnt on teh test track, and if you dig a little deeper, yo'll find it is the truth.

The truth is out there ;)

Maserati Man
Dec 21, 2004, 9:04 PM
Aerial Guardian, why dont you post here more often. you seem like you know a lot about cars, or you just have a lot of common sence.

Lancer 3v0 MR
Dec 21, 2004, 11:51 PM
whats 421 km/h = to in mph

Kirstyn
Dec 22, 2004, 12:10 AM
264 mph i think...thats just in my head tho, there are lots of converters on the net

Ghalos
Dec 22, 2004, 12:52 AM
Ok, first off, where on EARTH is this info coming from??

McLaren F1 is GEARED to redline at 231 mph in 6th gear at 7,500 rpms, after taking out the limiter it hit 240.1mph at 7,800 rpms. Now assuming they *magically* made it faster, and god knows it'd need to have alot more power to keep going faster, there's no plan for it to be any quicker....It's been out of production for seven years.

And Thrust SSC actually was the first land based vehicle to break the sound barrier, the other one you're no doubt thinking of is that guy that was trying to beat the Brits with "The Spirit of America"...And he had been doing it for decades, and never once got that close, he came up to about 620mph...but not fast enough.

Furthermore, aerodynamics, weight, gearing, and power are the key ingredients to ultra high speeds. Take a look at the Sledgehammer Corvette, Dauer 962 LM, and McLaren F1...And noticed all the smooth surfaces and curves, and then look at the weights and power outputs, and then finally, the power/ weight ratios.

421km/h would need either an increase of over 500 bhp or a reduction in aerial drag...Which the F1 never really had a problem with in the first place. Or an increase in rev ranges...All of which an OUT OF PRODUCTION car isn't set for.



BTW, welcome to SCF! :) Ya' seem like a good person...Just please, gimme some articles or proof of my favorite car doing that speed.

Aerial Guardian
Dec 22, 2004, 6:05 AM
Hi,

Indeed, you're right. Out of production, but not out of testing :)...the MACF2(McLarenF2) was designed totally of carbon fibre from the same design as the MAC1(McLarenF1) though held an amzing 2000+BHP. When my dad use to build engines for McLaren, he had all the records videos an such on testing tracks. No records on book though, as they were only testing. 391 was attained in 94 I have this video now though I have to upload it somewhere or find a host for it. Though, it is old. 399 was attained in 96 for records and production. Only 115 were ever made for production. But the project continues today.

You notice that the Buggati had 800+BHP, and yet, didn't go faster than the MAC1 in testing? The RS Viper blew this car away and only had 670BHP and was tuned, that same Viper also blew away this stupid Borg. Totally creamed it in every way.

Anyways. The McLaren that holds the record back in 94' only had 495BHP ATT. 2 years later, it had boosted a new supercharger, new intakes, gold tracks, lighter fibre and many other things were changed I don't know about. Also, the fuel was mixed with soemthing typical which made the supercharger eat it up in gulps not revs @ 8400RPM.

The intake valves were too small, buggati knew this, reverse engineered the MAC1 and took hold. But they weren't able to get that BM engine into the Buggati to test its 1900 Pound Body they had at the time. So they stole a few things from it only, and is the reason why they had to boost it to 805BHP, because they just couldn't do it with less, and they still can't do it, even with that many horses, it was something like 0-60 in 3.2, McLaren done it in 2.6, though, you wont see that in teh record books :)...But McLaren could, that's a feet in itself if you ask me with almost 300BHP less. Aerodynamics were perfect and were not changed, as drag wasen't the problem, it was indeed the power like you said. But that was overcome obviously :)..

Soon, my dad will give me some videos, personal ones, not only of this car, but of the MAC2, Buggati, Viper, Diablo and a few others that he has. He has also built jet engines for RAAF, Mig fighters, has flown to Russia to work on the SU's, has major contributions in the Jumbo Jets for Quantas also. Has also seen jets break super sonic infront of him on carriers when he was in the navy.. Awesome stuff..

And I'm not sure about spirit of America, I forget the name. But I had a few documentories that indeed showed us that it was the first landspeed record breaker, and even the british fighter admitted it did it, it was a doco aboutthe thrust. It didn't go slower, it wen't MACH1, 20 years before the thrust did it. And Andy Green even said "YEAH, BUT YOURS ISNT OFFICIAL" or something of that nature, meaning he admits it went that fast. That's all.

I think the Thrust went faster, not sure, though, all I was saying is, it was not the first, and that the guy that told us about it was giving wrong information about the times it took to gain speed. So, if I find this doco then I'll be able to show you that. As for the McLaren, well, that's coming dont you worry.

Oh, and thanks for the greet :)

AG

Mopar68
Dec 22, 2004, 1:47 PM
interesting stuff.

Malin
Dec 22, 2004, 2:33 PM
Most Powerful Production Car in the world according to the new guinnes sworld records 2005 is Koenigsegg CCR :D
The 4.7 litre supercharged V8 engine of the Koenigsegg CCR develops a claimed 601 kW (806 hp) of power and 920 Nm (678 ftlb) of torque, giving it a 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time of 3.2 seconds and a top speed in excess of 395 km/h (242 mph), according to its manufacturer.


http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=43463

The_ClericX
Dec 22, 2004, 2:38 PM
Veyron? The fastest??? Do not forget that he is still on tests... When he came out is unknown - for now, Mclaren F1 is the best and fastest...

Malin
Dec 22, 2004, 2:46 PM
Veyron? The fastest??? Do not forget that he is still on tests... When he came out is unknown - for now, Mclaren F1 is the best and fastest...

What? Lets face it McLaren F1 is gone from the top.
if you don’t believe me look at www.rsportscars.com :)
Koenigsegg CCR
Top Speed: 395 km/h
806 hp


McLaren F1
Top Speed: 362km/h
680hp

Kirstyn
Dec 22, 2004, 4:37 PM
Welcome to SCF Aerial Guardian & The_ClericX

Lancer 3v0 MR
Dec 22, 2004, 4:42 PM
"Fastest Furniture
The Casual Lofa, a motorized sofa built by Edd China and David Davenport, has a top speed of 140 km/h (87 mph). Powered by a Mini 1300 cc engine, it is licensed for use on UK roads and is steered by turning a medium pizza pan.
The car sofa started life as a three wheeler with a Mini 850cc as the rear with a Reliant front. The car sofa has now been modified with a Mini 1300 cc engine and four wheels.

The speedy sofa is operated with a medium pizza pan as a steering wheel, a cola can as the foot brake lever, and a chocolate bar to adjust the gears, with front indicators in flower pots and a speedometer attached to the coffee table. The in-car entertainment includes a working black and white television.

Incredibly, the car – which has seating capacity for a driver and two passengers – has covered over 25,750 km (16,000 miles) since it was built."

that's pretty funny..... Amazing what people think of.....found it at guiness book of world records
http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=54331

Aerial Guardian
Jan 15, 2005, 5:01 AM
Most Powerful Production Car in the world according to the new guinnes sworld records 2005 is Koenigsegg CCR :D
The 4.7 litre supercharged V8 engine of the Koenigsegg CCR develops a claimed 601 kW (806 hp) of power and 920 Nm (678 ftlb) of torque, giving it a 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) time of 3.2 seconds and a top speed in excess of 395 km/h (242 mph), according to its manufacturer.


http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/content_pages/record.asp?recordid=43463

Yeah look mate, I don't think you're hearing me.

As I said before, the car has a top speed of 395KM/H, but the car never went that fast in testing as I have personally seen it tested.

As for the McLarens run, in 1994 with 480BHP, not 600, it went 391KM/H, and I have video of this test. Where is your video that the CCR went 395? Exactly, there is none, because it never went that fast. The McLaren is still the fastest tested production car in the world, and that was 10 years ago mate..And it didn't have a Merc engine, it had a V12 Supercharged BMW engine, bet you won't see that on any website :D.

Now, in 1999, Top Gear tested another McLaren, with a V8 Supercharged Merc GT engine, it only went 202MP/H, but that's the british record. And that is the specs you see on the rsports website. This is the wrong car..

As for the CCR in the records, notice it doesn't have a speed record? it has a top speed of 395KM/P, but it doesn't have a record speed attained does it? :D Meaning it's not the fastest production car in the world. That means, they say it can go that fast, but we are yet to see if perform that fast.

Another Top Gear video I had has the CCR topping 387KM/H, and that was a 2004 Video.

Both the McLaren and the CCR were not tuned. But when they tuned the McLaren to it's finest in 2003 the car was tested and ran 0-62MP/H in 2.1 seconds, 6.4s - 195MP/H, 10.6s - 263MP/H | 421KM/H, unofficial, so that means, thye have more to get from it. SO then they built the McLaren F2 ;D.. With 2200BHP and tops speeds of upto 600KM/H, ON TIRES.......

But this is not street legal obviously. But you can see that when they had the right setup in the MAC1 they made the MAC2.

Doesn't seem a bit odd that back in 1994 with almost half the Horses the McLaren went 391? And yet, when that site you gave says the MAC1 has 600BHP adn only went 362?

Now my dad has a video of the McLaren 2 years after that going 399KM/H, this speed was actually attained, and not said it "could be" attained like most manufatures say their cars can do..which is a load of bull.. It's doesn't go that fast, until it goes that fast.

So again, just because the CCR's top speed says 395KM/H, doesn't mean the car can actually go that fast..

Anyone got an address where I can upload some videos?

So none of this 362KM/H stuff mate :D..

PS: ckg690, thanks, nice site..;)

AG

12 inch pianist
Jan 15, 2005, 5:05 AM
When Koeniggsegg tested the car they would of done it in the most aerodynamic situation possible, probably with another car infront of it to make a slipstream. As for the Mclaren i would say your getting net horsepower and gross horsepower mixed up.

jimkk29
Jan 15, 2005, 10:40 AM
As for the McLarens run, in 1994 with 480BHP, not 600, it went 391KM/H, and I have video of this test. Where is your video that the CCR went 395? Exactly, there is none, because it never went that fast. The McLaren is still the fastest tested production car in the world, and that was 10 years ago mate..And it didn't have a Merc engine, it had a V12 Supercharged BMW engine, bet you won't see that on any website :D.
Next time you want to object to what another member said, try to be a little better informed.

About the McLaren's run you're referring to (I have a video of it also)... The car was the F1 LM, which was a special production vehicle, kind of like a homologation special (only 5 units built). At the time of the test, all 680 BHP of the engine were deployed. You can't achieve 391 km/h with 480 HP, my friend, basic physics. Also, the engine was a BMW V12 naturally aspirated 6.1 lt engine - BMW never makes supercharged engines.

But when they tuned the McLaren to it's finest in 2003 the car was tested and ran 0-62MP/H in 2.1 seconds, 6.4s - 195MP/H, 10.6s - 263MP/H | 421KM/H, unofficial, so that means, thye have more to get from it. SO then they built the McLaren F2 ;D.. With 2200BHP and tops speeds of upto 600KM/H, ON TIRES.......
Yes... and they made another one with 15 thousand HP which goes 900 mph and does 0-62 mph in 0.02 secs, didn't you know it? :rolleyes:

Ghalos
Jan 15, 2005, 11:13 AM
Yet another moron who doesn't know his/her stuff, there's no F2!!! NO supercharged V12 motor for the F1, and no, it's the F1 jim, not the F1 LM, that had a wing and specialized ground effects for the handling advantage.

We've all heard the F1 goes 231...Technically that's it's road legal top speed. But the 240.1 mph top was done without catalytic converters. So pick your answer. And as far as fastest legal car, still the F1 according to EVERY test and book, and website I've seen. But, as all of you know I love the F1 and always will, it's not going to be the fastest much longer.

As for the Koenigsegg...C8S, that'll do about 242mph to 245mph...And it's going to since that 228 mph run at Nardo was done not only in the rain but wasn't redlining sixth yet. The CCR will beat that, but as of yet, neither has been officially clocked at more than 240.1mph. The Veyron's a joke and one day, maybe in five years, it'll finally make good on it's promise of 250mph...Too bad two things stand in "fastest speed for a road car ever award" (note the non-production angle there)
Those two things:
1-CCR
2-Sledgehammer 'Vette

BTW, welcome to the site ya'll...But next time try not to make stuff up, we've got a large collection of smart people who know falsified stuff when they see it. :cool:

Also, the Koenegsigg's V8 is Ford based, but could be built by Koenigsegg since it's like 60% there's if not 80%, and the only reason they haven't, economics, it'd cost too much.

jimkk29
Jan 15, 2005, 12:04 PM
Are you sure it was the simple F1? It also had the engine further tuned to 680 HP.

Ghalos
Jan 15, 2005, 12:19 PM
Well, I do know it was the "base" F1, not the LM, and the engine could've been tuned for all I know.

nizzledizzle
Jan 18, 2005, 4:00 PM
Next time you want to object to what another member said, try to be a little better informed.

About the McLaren's run you're referring to (I have a video of it also)... The car was the F1 LM, which was a special production vehicle, kind of like a homologation special (only 5 units built). At the time of the test, all 680 BHP of the engine were deployed. You can't achieve 391 km/h with 480 HP, my friend, basic physics. Also, the engine was a BMW V12 naturally aspirated 6.1 lt engine - BMW never makes supercharged engines.


Yes... and they made another one with 15 thousand HP which goes 900 mph and does 0-62 mph in 0.02 secs, didn't you know it? :rolleyes:


Hey jim? which rule of physics is it that states a vehicle with 480 hp cant go 391km/h?? i must have missed that one in physics class......

jimkk29
Jan 18, 2005, 7:54 PM
The aerodynamic resistance increases in tandem with the square of speed. Double the speed, quadraple resistance. In 391 km/h, there is an INSANE amount of air resistance. With 480 hp, there is no possible way you can make a usable car (like the F1) have a shape that allows such high speeds with 480 hp. It would have to look like a rocket. But with 600++ HP there is the power required to counter the air resistance. Isn't it simple?

mitchcrabbe
Jan 18, 2005, 7:58 PM
Everyone knows the king of cars is the Maclaren F1, even though is not the fastest anymore it's still one of the best, anyway, when i was researching for the Koeniseg CC i found out the MClaren F1 only pulls 0.86G on the skidpad, thats about the same as the BMW X5 4.6is and less than the Mercury Marauder, but still, afaik the McLaren F1 was considered the fastest car in the world, but the SVT focus, as an example beats the slalom 5km/h faster than this $1.000.000 car, so, was it meant to be an straight line performer? i guessed it was a track car, maybe the info is wrong

i saw this one movie on the internet where a supra beat a macarlin f1 in the quarter mile:D

ben790450
Jan 18, 2005, 10:24 PM
The Lingenfelter is quickest, yes, right, but not on the street, you can just go out and make a 1.9 0-60 and 9.2 quarter with the lingenflter, you really need skill and tires, also a decent pavement, most likely you wont find that conditions, anyway

Motor trend did it with MT street legal drags (it's a street legal car)

Accelero
Jan 18, 2005, 11:05 PM
The aerodynamic resistance increases in tandem with the square of speed. Double the speed, quadraple resistance. In 391 km/h, there is an INSANE amount of air resistance. With 480 hp, there is no possible way you can make a usable car (like the F1) have a shape that allows such high speeds with 480 hp. It would have to look like a rocket. But with 600++ HP there is the power required to counter the air resistance. Isn't it simple?

Oooooo thats smart... I knew that 480hp can't go that fast but I didn't know why.