Why does people think that Honda is not good quality?
has a S2000 nand never had a problem i had a civic type-r never had some problems

I believe it's due to the fact that many hondas do not drive incredibly smooth in comparison to many other japanese companies. Reason for this being that they often cost a great deal less than their competition and they tend to use smaller engines. However, I am not stating that this makes Honda engines poor; they are known to last up to and beyond 300,000 miles. When considering the general Honda line-up the S2000 does not exactly fit in with the rest of their cars. It also costs a great deal more than any of the other Hondas unless you care to get into the Acura line-up.

Beyond the performance of the cars, from first glance many of their cars just appear to be of lesser quality than many other cars. Siting in the cockpit of any of the cars one can easily spot many cheaper components made of materials that hardly scream out 'class'.

Far be it from me to condemn an entire car company based on a few of their cars. I do realize that Honda does produce many quality cars such as the S2000 and the NSX, which both have been known to out-perform and out-handle their competition. Yet beyond those few cars Honda does not often come to mind when one imagines quality cars.

Honda has decent quality, most people just hate the people who drive them. All the "think they're tuners" who put a muffler and a body kit on there cars and call it tuning and then claim that their car is the SHIZNIT and nothing is better then Honda's can get quite annoying very fast. The vast hordes of them also make it easy to just call the whole line of Honda's crap just in reaction to the stupid idiots. Honda makes a good comunter car, and with lots of work cars like the Civic can be made to react fairly quick speeds, but they arnt meant to be sports cars, only cars like the S2000 and NSX really are. Its just like compairing a Hang-glider to an F-18 Super Hornet. They have totally different uses.

Honda makes really freakin' great cars. Civics were affordable and the ones with VTEC had a lot of potental that was fairly easy to unlock, making them affrodable "potental" sports cars. Many also enjoyed the looks of it, giving more populatiry to the trend. The CRX, for example, was maybe the smallest Civic and had the best handling. Handling was important to the pioneering tuners and the Civic gave more than was expected. After Honda started spankin' out the Type R's, nothing was the same. Also, failure to mention the Prelude makes me huffy. That is a sweet street predator with much more stock power and a much better sports car body and desgin. There's not a blip about the new Integra (same animal as the RSX) either, much less the Type R versions fo these either. And what? An Accord a performance car? If you want it be! Stock power from the available V6 is 240 hp(same as the Monte Carlos supercharged SS model...with more displacement even it barely touches the Accord figures!!) Far as I can tell, the new Accord looks sickly sweet adn can be had for 23k(with the V6!!!) . Honda rules everywhere, but yes, I agree. Most people think they are the SHIZZLEYIEST! cause they slap on a bodykit and a bigger exhaust, messes it up for the true enthusiests... :cry: (though Cavaliers and Neons aren't immune to this treatment on a large scale anymore either) :mrgreen:

Honda's cars are great, and anyone who bought a Honda has never had any problems. I'm thinking about buying a Civic.

Hondas kewl, Wut bout tha civics and tha accords, those r nice cars, and pleaze letz not 4get the pralude !!!


:twisted: Tha Need 4 Speed :twisted:

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Preludes rock! 8) It's cool that they are not well know though. Gives better reactions on the street, "what IS that?", "what just blew me away?" :lol:

Tru Tru !

I had 4 Civics Copue and i just buy and Accord Coupe...
why i have honda?

Well i live in mexico, and this cars are a trouble to steal, so i feel safer...
in mexico there is a lot of vehicle robbery.

also in Mexico the crashes are very common because, there are not speed
limits in somo areas, and if they are, no one respects them...

Honda have 5 Stars in NHTSA (in all the models selled in mexico)
i crash one of the civics and it was not a good experience, but me and
my friend are ok, and we didnt need a neckprotector or any doctors help
(if you want the pics, ask me and i put them here)

The cars have an incredible suspension (double wishbone) and the
scheduled service is cheaper and they treat you very nice...
so i can save money from the scheduled services, and by the car
inssurance, becouse is cheaper than others...

Preludes rock! 8) It's cool that they are not well know though. Gives better reactions on the street, "what IS that?", "what just blew me away?" :lol:

yea i agree i love the prelude 2 it's so nice and cool :twisted:

Hmm. honda has great cars, i found one, think its a future one, but im not sure, if anyone can give some information, please do so

http://www.madmachines.com/honda.jpg


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i dont think thats a real car - might be based on an american model.

i thought the same thing, but it could be an future model, right?

I don't even think it's meant to be build. It just stayed a sketch of a custom Accord or something. But i like it :) .

that is not a concept !

its the "accord coupe" from 98 to 00, but tuned...
as you can see, its the same car, but with another bumper, like the veilside bumpers (aerodinamic kits).

you can buy the aerodinamic kit and transform your accord, it looks awesome, and i want to know where did you find that picture, becouse i have exactly that model of accord, and i would love to buy that kit, and i am wondering how does it looks from the rear

Why does people think that Honda is not good quality?
has a S2000 nand never had a problem i had a civic type-r never had some problems


you have a EK9 or EP3, havn't you ?

what's a ek9 or ep3 :?:

i think ep3s r bigger tan ek9s

what is it :?: :D

what is it :?: :D

what the hell !!!! You said you had got a civic type-r!!!!
you don't know EP3 and EK9, do u ? EP3 is the new civic type-R.
EK9 is the old one which have a 1600cc Vtec.

I didn't know about those names either...
You figured them out by yourself? :P

I didn't know about those names either...
You figured them out by yourself? :P

So u guys don't know what 's DC2 or DC5 either?

I didn't figure any names. That's ur problem. :shock:

If those names are factory code names or apply only to your country, then how are we supposed to know them?

If those names are factory code names or apply only to your country, then how are we supposed to know them?

First, forgive my ****ing Stupid English.
I just can tell you. I said that is right. That's the Model NO.
Give u some example.
Farilady Z (another name:350Z) Model No: Z33.
But EVO8 's Model No: CT9A. That's as same as EVO7's .

PS: I never figured any cars' name.

Yeah, Engine codes are only REALLY well known to who are intensly into specific kinds of cars. My Roommate is always firing off these numbers like 456, 350, 471, whatever that are apparently GM engine models. I have no idea what they are. And I think that EK's are a more universal name for the car really, so you need to be even more into cars and look on websites not inhibited by naionality. Games like Tokyo Xtreme Racer include the EK part of the Civic models and Accuras as well, so thats the only reason I recognized what you were talking aobut.

me 2 and tokyo xtreme racer is sweet

Ok, I think it would be better if we referred to the models with their normal name, and not model numbers. Just to save the confusion. :)

Ok, I think it would be better if we referred to the models with their normal name, and not model numbers. Just to save the confusion. :)

Because old style civic hatchback has two type.
one is EG model, another is EK model.

:lol:

Ok, whatever...

Ok, whatever...

Good choice of words! I totally agree! :twisted:

Hmm. honda has great cars, i found one, think its a future one, but im not sure, if anyone can give some information, please do so

http://www.madmachines.com/honda.jpg



http://www.velocityphotos.com/images/stk/2003/hn2003accordcoupe01.jpg
Honda Accord Coupe V6

Well, the drawing and the real car resemble very much. I think that the pic that you posted it's just a mad, fiery Accord version from a designer.

About Hondas quality, I think that they are in the top of the quality list. Hondas are very trustworthy cars.

About Hondas quality, I think that they are in the top of the quality list. Hondas are very trustworthy cars.
Indeed, as are all Japanese cars.

I think Hondas are the greatest company. But i think that Honda made aucra for a reason. To expand there car marketing. Think about it, Honda already has a lot of good cars for an affordable price. Acura has more competive cars. like the RSX typeS the CL and the TL or the TSX. I wonder if this makes sense. Im kinda getttin light headed so it my be werid.

yeah the accord is cool
http://world.honda.com/news/2002/image/4021105_1c.jpg

Acura is only sold in North America I think hond amade acura so it could compete wiht infiniti and Lexus both from Nissan and Toyota respectively. most Acuras are just rebagged hondas in foreign markets like the Acura RL which is sold as the Honda legend overseas

Honda is indeed a great car with HIGH quality!!

Most of their models don't look VERY good to me , but there are some Type's like the uhhh RRRRRrrrrrrr??? :P

Black Civic Tyrpe R
White Integra Type R

etc. :D

Greettz : Danny!

Acura is only sold in North America I think hond amade acura so it could compete wiht infiniti and Lexus both from Nissan and Toyota respectively. most Acuras are just rebagged hondas in foreign markets like the Acura RL which is sold as the Honda legend overseas
Indeed Acura exists only in North America. Here everything is Honda. Acuras are basically Hondas with a different name.

Acuras are higher quality and performance too than Hondas. The NSX from Acura has more power and better everything compared to any of the Honda NXS's for example.

yeah but don't they have the same 3.2 litre engine?

Same engine, more effort in power outpur on the Acura though. Diffrent parts and such

are u sure???, honda is the worlds largest engine manufacturer though so they probebly have to look in their parts bin to find something.

But the engine is totally the same. Honda makes the engine. Acura is just a different name, a marketing trick.

But the engine is totally the same. Honda makes the engine. Acura is just a different name, a marketing trick.

that sounds so negative :evil:
The Acura NSX has higher output than the Honda NSX, so what if it's the same engine? Hond engines rock! :mrgreen:

yes marketing tricks like volvo, Land rover, aston martin, those are all marketing tricks for ford

No those last ones are not. They are different cars, and are made in different plants. But really, Honda = Acura!!

Opel= vauxhall now theres a marketing trick, and yes they are made in different plants but all these companies use Ford parts, like the aston martins and jaguars they have Ford trasmissions. Ever heard of cross platform sharing? probebly not. Companies always build similar models in the same factory. The only marketing trick is how you think european cars are always so great

Your last sentence is totally irrelevant. And I do know that they use common parts and common platforms, it's just that finally those cars are different in performance and feeling.

so if these cars handel so differently how does a honda=acura? there would be now bases for that. An acura RSX(integra) does not handel like a civic.

Of course, but you'll have to compare the corresponding models. For instance, Honda NSX - Acura NSX.

ok so Honda Accord and Acura TL those are very different vehicles

How did you get your hands on a civic type R? they have never been released in the states as far as i know of. anyways if you do have one it must be annoying driving a right hand driven car on the right side of the road :wink:

Just got a Honda S2000 and a BMW Z4 roadster from ebay.
They are 1:18 scale replica though. ^_^ But it will serve me well until I get my real one in the future. You should check it out. It's pretty cool.

Just my 2 cents.

FYI, here's the place I bought.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=223&item =3572438027

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=223&item =3572435304

hye isn't advertising baned on this forum?

hye isn't advertising baned on this forum?

Yeah really this guy has this crap all over!

yup pissing me off, anyways back to honda I think they need to...hmm redesign the alread strong selling Honda Odyssey? :P :?

that is not a concept !

its the "accord coupe" from 98 to 00, but tuned...
as you can see, its the same car, but with another bumper, like the veilside bumpers
???
how the hell do u know its tuned?
it just has a rice body kit...

yup pissing me off, anyways back to honda I think they need to...hmm redesign the alread strong selling Honda Odyssey? :P :?

yea, if honda still wants strong profits, they have to redesign the odyssey; now that toyota and nissan redesigned their minivans; honda must keep up with the competition

here in california, when the odyssey was first released, honda couldn't supply enough for the demands of the people. my mom's boss paid 5k $ extra only to get it 6 months later (6 months was considered early and fast)

everyone knows acura is honda but they are the same car the only thing is is that when they come over from japan we get the crappy USDM which mean we dont get the stuff like allwheel drive and the other nice features.

Acura was made so they could market the cars here but the changes made to the cars well they just change them all around looks engins and so forth.

and as for up a bit some one was asking about the civc type R
they are here and they are a hatch and i think that every honda dealer would have them.

[quote="Realm II"]everyone knows acura is honda but they are the same car the only thing is is that when they come over from japan we get the crappy USDM which mean we dont get the stuff like allwheel drive and the other nice features.[quote]

does anyone know what cars get AWD in JDM?

what about RWD? (besides S2k and NSX) :?:

any special features?

But the engine is totally the same. Honda makes the engine. Acura is just a different name, a marketing trick.

it's not that negative....... just something honda used; becuz rich ppl in the US don't want to be seen driving a honda; like some other guy driving a 93 civic; they'd want to be seen driving an acura; looks better, they're showing off; but they're just the same thing....... in other countries the acura legend is the honda legend

lexus and toyota did this (weren't they the first?), infiniti and nissan, and of course..... :wink: acura and honda

also, ford doesn't share enginges w/ all those other manufacturers; they just have them share engines w/ each other (i.e. mazda 3 shares w/ volvo 40 series)

Beyond the performance of the cars, from first glance many of their cars just appear to be of lesser quality than many other cars. Siting in the cockpit of any of the cars one can easily spot many cheaper components made of materials that hardly scream out 'class'.

not if you're driving in an acura :lol:

from the really pick ppl; all i've heard is that the wood looks sort of fake; but the leather is really good. usually a car manufacterer would put wood as an option; but honda makes it standard in most of their cars..... if honda made wood an option; it would be of much higher quality; but in acura's tradition; everything is standard. on the RL; the only option was the navigation system; but now ITS standard to; so nothing is on the option list. Acura is more like a poor mans lexus

a long time ago the civic wagon was all wheel drive and we did get it in the states how ever i was talking a bout the accord EURO its an all wheel drive 6 spd. here in the states we call it the TSX but like i said we didnt get the allwheel drive or the 6 spd.

the accord EURO its an all wheel
No, in Europe the new Accord is still FWD. No Honda is AWD as far as I know. At least in Europe. Well except the Suvs.

well thats not what i had read and if you go back to the old civc wagon it is all wheel drive

Well I don't know about the old civic wagon but I can assure you about the euro accord.