This seems very promising news. I wonder if Mercedes are considering super-charging/turbo-charging the 6.2 L V8.

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http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/mercedes-building-new-super-sports-car-without-mclaren/

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Mercedes-Benz will team up with its official DTM partner, HWA AG, to co-develop and build its new super-sports car as well as several other high-end performance models. The luxury brand is reportedly disappointed by the performance of its SLR McLaren when compared against its main rivals, and this is said to be a key reason why it sought a new partner to develop its latest sports car.

In steps HWA. The motorsports company was formed by Hans-Werner Aufrecht in 1967, one of the founders of AMG, and is best known for its HWA Racing team, which competes in the German touring car series with the CLK-DTM.

The new model will be a race car built for the road and is likely to be powered by a higher performance version of the hand-built 6.2L V8 engine from AMG. To make it road-legal, the car will be officially sold under the Mercedes AMG label, but it will remain a genuine HWA race-developed product. Expect to see a concept version at next year’s Geneva Motor Show.

HWA will also be investing €4.5 million to expand its manufacturing facilities, which will see its current plant extend from 1,200 to 3,600 square meters. HWA spokesman Hans Jürgen Matheis revealed to The Insider that the motorsports company always had the ambition to prove to Mercedes that it could build a better road-car than McLaren, and now it finally gets its chance.

McLaren fans shouldn’t be completely disappointed. Substantial cash flows from its successful F1 team and the freeing up of resources from this latest announcement could eventually pave the way for the development of a successor to the original McLaren F1.

Mmmm this is very interesting..SLR to beat Mclaren...Oh my God..You know when this car released its specs were a bit low in order to its opponents...So it wasn't good in the 0-100 in comparison with the other cars...But it was a good car in overall...If AMG put his hand in this engine then the SLR will be a Mclaren killer....We will see..

Mercedes are disappointed? I thought McLaren would be the ones that were disappointed. If Merc wanted it to compete against it's rivals, then I don't see why they needed to add the luxuries, the rivals felt were unneccessary. Sounds promising though.

if i was McLaren i'd be extremely pissed off and let the German wankers do all their work, including F1, by themselves, and team up with Ferrari or something and just kickass.

it's not McLaren's fault that Mercedes expected an Enzo, Carrera GT, Zonda F etc-killing supercar out of a bloody SL55... how is it possible?! and also, Mercedes insisted on keeping the amount of kit in there high, making the SLR much heavier than it should really be... what knobheads!

if i was McLaren i'd be extremely pissed off and let the German wankers do all their work, including F1, by themselves, and team up with Ferrari or something and just kickass.

it's not McLaren's fault that Mercedes expected an Enzo, Carrera GT, Zonda F etc-killing supercar out of a bloody SL55... how is it possible?! and also, Mercedes insisted on keeping the amount of kit in there high, making the SLR much heavier than it should really be... what knobheads!

Well said Frewin !!!

Although F1 part was wrong ? Where would McLaren be if Mercedes wasn't there partner/engine supplier or whatever they are ???

ok this post is no fake, and i hope you will believe me, cos i cant provide any pics

Last week on thursday i was visiting HWA in Affalterbach (approx. 40km from my home) with my Formula Student team, and we saw the covered prototyp of the new MB SL... it is gigantic and what i could see it looked amazing, a friend of me knows somebody at HWA, a mechanic, he said that the prototyp has around 700bhp!!! ... as you would guess we were not allowed to take pics, so i have no proof, but believe me it was simply amazing, even covered

we also saw the clk dtm street version manufacture and the 4 HWA dtm race cars which were disassembled to control all parts

MB is full of morons it seems.

Name a single FR heavy-as-hell (for the performance expectations) auto-box car that'll keep up with a Carrera GT...

The SLR.

Oh, so, like I said, MB is full of morons, AMG got money from their merger with 'em, as did McLaren...The two should break away, see what those Germans can do by themselves.

Because, based on the previous criteria, the SL55AMG and '65AMG aren't cutting the mustard. McLaren and AMG know their stuff, MB, does too, just not in the sportscar area like McLaren.

Mercedes are disappointed? I thought McLaren would be the ones that were disappointed. If Merc wanted it to compete against it's rivals, then I don't see why they needed to add the luxuries, the rivals felt were unneccessary. Sounds promising though.
That's what I thought. McLaren was pissed because MB decided to put an automatic in the SLR... I don't know why MB is dissapointed, the SLR is incredible in terms of performance, even when compared to its rivals.

Why do they have to team up with someone though? Can't they make a supercar on their own?

Mercedes Benz did a dummy work!!.....I know...Mercedes Benz should have accepted that Mclaren wanted to produce the mid-engine and not the front engine at first..Mclaren also had planed to make a high performance car by producing over 700bhp. but Mercedes Benz didnt really want a supercar ,but an ultra GT..Mercedes Benz only wanted customers of SLR Mclaren to relax while they drive the car...Mercedes Benz refused a thrill mashine..
And now Mercedes Benz says, it is not satisfied with mclaren- team?..
I cannot understand it..
however, I am very glad to hear that Mclaren could make a successor of the original Mclaren F1.

Well said Frewin !!!

Although F1 part was wrong ? Where would McLaren be if Mercedes wasn't there partner/engine supplier or whatever they are ???

that's why i said for them to join Ferrari ;). imagine a McLaren-Ferrari F1 car and supercars. wow... :D

Mclaren F1 sucessor? forget Mercedes-Benz super car...
Waiting for the Mclaren F1 sucessor... I really can't wait...:D

that's why i said for them to join Ferrari ;). imagine a McLaren-Ferrari F1 car and supercars. wow... :D

OWNAGE IN RACE TRACKS!!!

Well i think this should be interesting, if Mercedes-Benz want to build a better SLR i say go ahead

The real news are that McLaren is tinking about a McLaren F1 successor!!!
That is something i would love to see!

This'll be interesting, because by the time this model starts beta/gamma testing, MB's new line of V6, V8, V10(?!?), and V12 engines will be coming online. It'll also be strange to see whether the TT6.2L V8 will be used in the performance benz. However, AMG did say that they were over supercharging, and have decided to embrace twin turbos, after the toe-in-the-water-exercise that is the 65 series TT,6.0L,V12

i think theres some spy shots of that and some photoshops of that, the spy shots was just a typical ariel atom type thingy and the photshop was named as a baby SLR

well, finally they are going to make a new one and not just stand on the SLR which mclaren helped them to upgrade their SLs, mclaren did a great job, mercedes did the bad job to tell them what to do, automatic, ugh, heavy as hell and getting your brakes on fire, ugh, i dont like it, how the hell is it possible to make a super car as what mercs say with all these wood, leather, and all these stuff weighing like half of the car itself? damn...

onto the car, i hope they make it good, lightweight, manual, and traction control that could be turned completely off, while mercedes would be whining about the driver safety and those stuff, ill be killing some SLRs...well, lets see, im sure they are going to auto, heavy, blah blah blah, mercedes, i hate them from now on even if they make a car sexier than...errr...the sexiest car in the world which i have no idea what it is

the CLS?
Nah; the Mercedes-McLaren union was done purely for F1; McLaren needed stability. You've got to remember that:1) the SLR, despite what some of you may think, is a GT car with a supercar engine. And 2) the SLR had to be marketed as a Mercedes, not a McLaren.

I understand that the SLR was a GT-car, so it's time Merc and HWA made something pretty special, that they could all be really proud of. The SLR was good, I thought it was good looking, but it was very very heavy, had an automatic gearbox, and only 5 gears at that. The new one should be lighter, have a proper manual and be well powerful. It will still sell if it's got a Mercedes badge on the front, so I'm pretty exciting; looking forward to this.

Go ahead MB. I want to see what the germans do by themselves. Mclaren... ahhh... I think its time for sepeation.:-k Mclaren needs to make their own supercars and let MB do all the work with the new SLR. I just want to see what Mclaren does by themselves...

i think theres some spy shots of that and some photoshops of that, the spy shots was just a typical ariel atom type thingy and the photshop was named as a baby SLR

well, finally they are going to make a new one and not just stand on the SLR which mclaren helped them to upgrade their SLs, mclaren did a great job, mercedes did the bad job to tell them what to do, automatic, ugh, heavy as hell and getting your brakes on fire, ugh, i dont like it, how the hell is it possible to make a super car as what mercs say with all these wood, leather, and all these stuff weighing like half of the car itself? damn...

onto the car, i hope they make it good, lightweight, manual, and traction control that could be turned completely off, while mercedes would be whining about the driver safety and those stuff, ill be killing some SLRs...well, lets see, im sure they are going to auto, heavy, blah blah blah, mercedes, i hate them from now on even if they make a car sexier than...errr...the sexiest car in the world which i have no idea what it is

Business wise the auto was great, although there was no reason to not have an optional manual though. Most people with money are celebs, and the SLR was a supercar that anyone could drive, had the charisma of a Ferrari or Lamborghini, and while wasn't the pure enthusiasts car, served as a good medium.

yea, but in my own thoughts, if theres a supercar everyone could drive, its not really a supercar, firstly, not everyone could drive a supercar, they are probably limited produced, and they are lightweight and performs great on tracks...

MB is a great company..and MB sells most cars after Toyota. But MB is used to produce luxury cars like E-class, S-class and so on.
I dont know whether MB can make a supercar successful..
With AMG and so on MB showed us that MB can present sport-cars..
But MB has never had any experience to make supercars except SLR722.
Mercedes SLR mclaren is supposed to be a supercar, which is actually not.
MB should give up to make a supercar and should continue to develop their styles..

MotorAuthority have added a bit more information to the original post. See below.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/supercars/mercedes-building-new-super-sports-car-without-mclaren/#more-2486

Updated: Mercedes won’t be taking any chances in the performance stakes with its new super-sports car following the disappointing results of its SLR supercar, which rarely comes first in comparo reviews.

The new model is set to be slotted in between the SLR and SL, and could feature a 700hp version of the 6.2L AMG V8 engine according to Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport. However, we think it’d probably be closer to 600hp so as to not step on the toes of the SLR flagship. The source also reports that it might carry the name ‘SLC’ and could also feature a biturbo V8 model as well.

The SLC will share much in common with the next-generation SL Roadster, including most of the interior but will get its own carbon-fiber roof.